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More than 150,000 Canadians sign petition to revoke Musk's citizenship

  

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Via:  bob-nelson  •  one month ago  •  68 comments

By:   Qualia Reed (the Guardian)

More than 150,000 Canadians sign petition to revoke Musk's citizenship



Parliamentary petition launched due to billionaire's link to Trump,
who has repeatedly threatened to conquer Canada


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Here's the occasion, Buzz, Hallux, and whoever else is lurking...

Almost makes me wish I were... nah...



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original More than 150,000 people from Canada have signed a parliamentary petition calling for their country to strip Elon Musk's Canadian citizenship because of the tech billionaire's alliance with Donald Trump, who has spent his second US presidency repeatedly threatening to conquer its independent neighbor to the north and turn it into its 51st state.

Elon Musk speaks during the annual Conservative Political Action Conference in Oxon Hill, Maryland, on Thursday.
Saul Loeb/AFP/Getty Images

The British Columbia author Qualia Reed launched the petition in Canada's House of Commons, where it was sponsored by New Democrat parliamentary member and avowed Musk critic Charlie Angus, as the Canadian Press first reported over the weekend.

Born in South Africa and owning US companies including electric vehicle-maker Tesla, aerospace company SpaceX and the social media platform X (formerly Twitter), Musk has Canadian citizenship through his mother: model and dietitian Maye Musk, who is from Saskatchewan's capital, Regina. He has been crusading to slash the US federal government's size at the behest of the US president, who has consistently challenged Canada's sovereignty since returning to the White House for a second presidential term on 20 January.

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Reed's petition - filed on 20 February - accuses Musk of having "engaged in activities that go against the national interest of Canada" by acting as an adviser to Trump. Trump has invited the scorn of Canada's 40 million residents by making threats about imposing steep tariffs on Canadian products and openly boasting about having the US annex the country, including shortly before its national hockey team defeated a selection of American opponents in a politically charged 20 February tournament final.

The petition asserts that Musk's alignment with Trump makes him "a member of a foreign government that is attempting to erase Canadian sovereignty". It asks the Canadian prime minister, Justin Trudeau, to take away Musk's Canadian passport and revoke his citizenship with immediate effect.

Trump has often mocked Trudeau as "governor", the title given to US states' chief executives. And Musk wrote on X, the social media platform he bought in 2022 for $44bn to relish Trudeau's announcement in January that he would resign as the head of Canada's Liberal party after it selected a new leader, with the tech billionaire praising clips of the prominent Canadian Conservative party chief Pierre Poilievre.

As the Canadian Press noted, petitions like Reed's require 500 or more signatures for them to gain the certification necessary to be presented to Canada's House of Commons and potentially garner a formal government response. Reed's petition evidently had no trouble clearing that threshold, having collected about 167,000 signatures as of early Monday, with no indication that the number would soon stop rising.

Canada's House of Commons is scheduled to resume its work on 24 March, though the country could call for a general election before parliamentary members return. The signing period for Reed's petition was set to expire on 20 June.

Musk's directive to ostensibly cut federal spending - after Trump lost re-election in 2020 to Joe Biden but then secured it in November at the expense of Kamala Harris - has affected hundreds of thousands of US government civil servants. The cuts include thousands at the Departments of Veterans Affairs, Defense, Health and Human Services, the Internal Revenue Service and the National Parks Service, among others.

An Economist/YouGov poll of nearly 1,600 respondents recently found Musk and his so-called "department of government efficiency" (Doge) are far less popular with the public that they claim to be serving than many of the areas they are targeting.

Nonetheless, on Friday at a gathering of conservatives in Maryland, Musk made light of his involvement in the Trump administration by giddily waving a giant chainsaw in the air.

And on Sunday, Musk boosted an X post reading: "Of course we support Doge! Those who don't support it are unAmerican."


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Bob Nelson
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1  seeder  Bob Nelson    one month ago

Can they do that? Cancel someone's citizenship?

 
 
 
George
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1.1  George  replied to  Bob Nelson @1    one month ago

Birthright Citizenship cannot be revoked, Naturalized can.

8 Canadian Citizenship Revocation Reasons And Legal Implications

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.1.1  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  George @1.1    one month ago

Among the legal motives:

7. Serious Misconduct or Disloyalty

Acts of disloyalty or misconduct against Canada may also trigger revocation proceedings.

Actions that contradict the values and institutions of the country are considered a violation of the trust placed in a citizen.

The Canadian government may initiate revocation proceedings to safeguard national interests in such cases.

Does proposing the annexation of Canada by another country count as an "act of disloyalty"?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  George @1.1    one month ago

You beat me to it by posting that, George.  But keep in mind that "birthright" REQUIRES BIRTH IN CANADA, and he was not.  The fact that his mother was Canadian does not mean "birthright".  And, by the way, Birthright Citizenship CAN be revoked if the citizen consents to it. 

 
 
 
George
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1.1.3  George  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.2    one month ago

I hope today finds you well and happy, I can't imagine forfeiting your citizenship, but i think one of the Facebook founders did to save paying US taxes.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  George @1.1.3    one month ago

Thank you, George. I'm feeling okay for my age and very happy.  Although Musk may lose his Canadian citizenship, America gained a good citizen when my son obtained dual citizenship in America where he now lives.

 
 
 
George
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1.1.5  George  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.4    one month ago
my son obtained dual citizenship in America

Good for him and good for America, I hope he enjoys every aspect of the American dream and succeeds beyond all expectations. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.1.6  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  George @1.1    one month ago

When compared to the total population of Canadian voters, 150k votes is a drop in a bucket. What has Musk done to Canada? This is more about going afterTrump through Musk.  Sounds like a petty small time crusading wannabe politician and 2nd rate author with a axe to grind looking for her 15 minutes of fame in the spotlight and boost book sales

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.7  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.6    one month ago

Well Ed, that's still a pretty substantial number of people who actually take action about what they think, and it could represent a much larger number of those who think the same way but for some reason don't do more than think the same way about a despicable asshole who most would rather did not represent what a Canadian is or have the advantages that a Canadian has. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.1.8  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.7    one month ago

A day later, it's over 200 000...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.9  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.1.8    one month ago

...and climbing.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.6    one month ago

So what? How is that any different than what Felon and F'Elon are doing or have done?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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1.1.11  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.10    one month ago
Felon and F'Elon

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Trout Giggles
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1.1.12  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.1.11    one month ago

It's not mine. I got that from someone else

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Bob Nelson @1    one month ago
"Can they do that? Cancel someone's citizenship?"

Yes, they can (as you have already posted).

"More than 150,000 Canadians sign petition to revoke Musk's citizenship"

Make that "More than 150,001 Canadians".  I am emailing the Canadian Consulate in Chongqing, where I am registered, to add my name to the petition.

 
 
 
Freefaller
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1.3  Freefaller  replied to  Bob Nelson @1    one month ago

Sure someone's citizenship can be cancelled, however this petition seems to only be a way for people to vent that won't actually accomplish anything

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.3.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Freefaller @1.3    one month ago
"...that won't actually accomplish anything."

Three things:  It will put an end to any rights that Elon Musk has in or from Canada that he has as a citizen, it would relieve Canadians from the embarrassment of his being a Canadian, and it would remove from Canada a detriment even if so miniscule to be of little consequence 

 
 
 
Freefaller
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1.3.2  Freefaller  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.3.1    one month ago

It only accomplishes those things if it suceeds in removing his citizenship, I do not think this petition will suceed, therefore it accomplishes nothing other than allowing people to vent

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.3.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Freefaller @1.3.2    one month ago

150,001 Canadians have figuratively told him to go to hell.  How many have indicated that they disagree?  I wouldn't want to be the recipient of such an action, successful or not, even if I were the richest man in the world.  If he doesn't give a shit, then that is a sign of his lack of feelings for others, but then he's already proving that, isn't he.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.3.4  Jack_TX  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.3.3    one month ago
150,001 Canadians have figuratively told him to go to hell. 

It's like junior high school.

They've unironically said something to the effect of: "we don't like what your boss says, so you can't sit at the cool kids' table".  

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.3.5  Sparty On  replied to  Jack_TX @1.3.4    one month ago

Our little brother to the north has always had an inferiority complex.    Some “acting out” is inevitable.    

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.3.6  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Jack_TX @1.3.4    one month ago

Maybe we don't like what Musk says and does.  

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.3.7  Jack_TX  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.3.6    one month ago
Maybe we don't like what Musk says and does.  

What has he done to harm Canada, exactly?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.3.8  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Sparty On @1.3.5    one month ago

That's why the "little brother" is larger and smarter than its so-called "big brother" and sits on top of him.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
1.3.9  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Jack_TX @1.3.7    one month ago

Well, Jack, I thought I already gave the reasons why Canadians prefer that he wasn't one, but okay, maybe without his financial support and the Americans' innate respect of what the most wealthy say and do Trump, has ALREADY damaged Canada and therefore Canadians would not have been elected.  That's for starters, and I'm sure there must be more.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.3.10  Sparty On  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.3.8    one month ago
That's why the "little brother" is larger

By land area only.    And smarter?     Soory, but I’m afraid that’s just delusional thinking on our little bro’s part

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.3.11  Jack_TX  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.3.9    one month ago

Buzz, there is an obvious idiocy in a supposedly "free" country making citizenship decisions based on political views.

That idiocy is being compounded exponentially when you want a third party removed for association with those views.

You would expect this behavior from mean girls in the 8th grade.  For grown adults, it's embarrassing.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.3.12  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Sparty On @1.3.10    one month ago

Yes, smarter.  It's been indicated in another article that was posted on NT that education in Canada was superior.  Besides, by this time, and I'm sure more so as time goes on, many voters in America are starting to regret their choice.

 
 
 
Freefaller
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1.3.13  Freefaller  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.3.3    one month ago

Actually I recently saw an article stating the number of sigs on the petition are up to 260K but still don't believe anything will come of it.  I also doubt Musk cares what we think of him

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.3.14  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Jack_TX @1.3.11    one month ago

Not just political views, Jack, but those aimed to harm Canadians.  Canadians have not only been insulted but harmed and if the tables were turned you'd damn well react no differently. Now I'M started to feel insulted by those who obviously are unable to comprehend how Canadians feel, which I must assume is because after all, Americans can do no wrong cause of their bravado and undeniable belief in their personal rights and freedoms, so if any more Americans aim their bullshit at me about this issue it will earn nothing more than an impasse, and will NOT mean that I agree with what is said.  And that is UNLESS what is said is not flaggable.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.3.15  Jack_TX  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.3.14    one month ago
Not just political views, Jack, but those aimed to harm Canadians.

Again, how has he "harmed" Canadians?  The best you've given so far is that he supports Trump... who's "harm" to Canadians so far is spouting some stupid bullshit and threatening a tariff.  It's not like anybody sold state secrets.

if the tables were turned you'd damn well react no differently.

I value the right to free speech infinitely more than I fear the consequences of that speech. 

So no, I would not and do not favor revoking citizenship of people whose political beliefs are different than mine, even if those beliefs cause what I believe to be rhetorical "harm" to the United States or Americans.  We would cease to be a free country.

Now I'M started to feel insulted by those who obviously are unable to comprehend how Canadians feel,

I would understand you feeling angry at Trump.  I would even understand you being irritated with Musk for what you see as enabling Trump.  But revoking citizenship??  WTF?

And to be very clear, we're talking about far less than 1/2 of 1% of Canadians.  There are plenty of conservatives and moderates in Canada who think this is a terrible idea.  They're correct, BTW.

  

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.3.16  Sparty On  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.3.12    one month ago

You see If I was you I report that comment as taunting but since I’m not you, it stands.

Yeah smarter …… hilarious!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.3.17  Buzz of the Orient  impassed  Jack_TX @1.3.15    one month ago
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Sparty On
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2  Sparty On    one month ago

0.4% of the Canadian population sez to Musk ….. your citizenship ….. has been REVOKED?

Hooray free speech, hooray democracy …..

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.1  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sparty On @2    one month ago

"Free speech" may be free... and yet have consequences. Musk may say "Let's eliminate Canada", but it's not really surprising that Canada be somewhat miffed...

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.1    one month ago

Don’t be so melodramatic.      If Musk and/or Trump actually try to do that I’ll stand right next to you to defend that Canadian bacon and beer.

You in?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.1.2  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sparty On @2.1.1    one month ago

For the bacon... of course!

For the beer... ummmmm...

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.1.2    one month ago

Beer snob eh?

Haven’t been there in years but my guess is their craft brew economy is just as serviceable as ours in the US.

That said, give me an ice cold PBR longneck any day.    The only beer that won a blue ribbon.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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2.1.4  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sparty On @2.1.3    one month ago
Beer snob eh?

Yup. IPA only. Canadians do lagers. Like Americans. Yechhhhh!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.1.5  Sparty On  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.1.4    one month ago

No IPA here.     Hitting a Pipers Porter right now.    In honor of:

Yummy.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1.6  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Bob Nelson @2.1.2    one month ago
"For the bacon... of course!"

Add butter tarts, Nanaimo bars and poutine and I'm in.  

 
 
 
Freefaller
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2.1.7  Freefaller  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1.6    one month ago

Mmmm buttertarts and bacon.  Someone should make that, sounds delicious

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1.8  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Freefaller @2.1.7    one month ago

Do you call it Canadian bacon, or as it is called in Canada, 'back bacon'?

 
 
 
Freefaller
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2.1.9  Freefaller  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1.8    one month ago

I call it Canadian bacon but it's not fatty enough for me so I prefer the taste of normal bacon

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1.10  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Freefaller @2.1.9    one month ago

Perhaps back bacon is healthier.

 
 
 
Freefaller
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2.1.11  Freefaller  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1.10    one month ago

Likely but what fun is that

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1.12  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Freefaller @2.1.11    one month ago

Okay, if it's fun for you, I'm glad you enjoy it.

 
 
 
Freefaller
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2.1.13  Freefaller  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1.12    one month ago

Thanks

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Sparty On @2    one month ago

Better read it again, Sparty On.  They DIDN'T say his citizenship HAS BEEN revoked, nor did they say it to Musk, they asked their government to revoke his citizenship.  Consider yourself lucky to have the "free speech" to spread disinformation. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.2.1  Sparty On  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.2    one month ago

Soory Buzz but you can parse words all you want.    They signed a petition to revoke his citizenship.    Full stop, end of story.     Do you think that means they don’t want to revoke it?

That said, I’m sure he is really broken up aboot it eh?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4  Trout Giggles    one month ago

I didn't realize he had Canadian citizenship. They should revoke it. Just like the US should revoke his citizenship then send him back to Africa on a slow, smelly, cargo ship

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4.1  Jack_TX  replied to  Trout Giggles @4    one month ago
I didn't realize he had Canadian citizenship.

I know, right?  I had no idea.

They should revoke it. Just like the US should revoke his citizenship then send him back to Africa on a slow, smelly, cargo ship

I don't think as a free society that we want to start making citizenship decisions based on which brand of politics the person supports.  Seems a pretty dangerous precedent.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5  bugsy    one month ago

Tell you what. We will take Musk and Canada can have Omar. 

 
 
 
Hallux
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5.1  Hallux  replied to  bugsy @5    one month ago
We will take Musk and Canada can have Omar. 

Not a problem as long as you keep Cruz and Bieber.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.1  bugsy  replied to  Hallux @5.1    one month ago

Mmmmmm we will take Cruz but Bieber will have to stay. However, to make it even, we will take Keanu Reeves

Oh, yea...and an added bonus for you, you can take back Jim Carey.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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5.1.2  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Hallux @5.1    one month ago

Ummm... Omar's second passport is Somali. She represents Minnesota, which hasn't (yet) been folded into the great state of Red-White-and-Blue-land.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hallux @5.1    one month ago

Don't trade with bugsy.

We really want you to have Musk. I know that's a shitty thing to do to Canada because, really, yinz are nice folks. I spent a week there traveling back from Alaska.

So you take Musk and kill him with kindness. Take him to Tim Horton's daily

 
 
 
Hallux
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5.1.4  Hallux  replied to  bugsy @5.1.1    one month ago
you can take back Jim Carey.

Not a problem, however, the entire cast of Trailer Park Boys are not up for trade.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.1.5  Sparty On  replied to  Hallux @5.1.4    one month ago

Conky?    Is that you?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.1.6  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Hallux @5.1    one month ago
"Not a problem as long as you keep Cruz and Bieber."

LOL.  I second that request.

 
 
 
shona1
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6  shona1    one month ago

Morning...maybe all you Canadian mob should send 5 bullet points to Musk explaining why you wouldn't buy a heap of crap like Tesla...or use X or anything else the maggot is associated with...

I called Musk a maggot after the Thailand incident and I still stand by my words, even though some thought it rather harsh...nope I call them as I see them...

Just a thought..

 
 
 
Freefaller
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6.1  Freefaller  replied to  shona1 @6    one month ago

Thailand incident?  Do tell

 
 
 
shona1
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6.1.1  shona1  replied to  Freefaller @6.1    one month ago

Morning...when the Thai boys were stuck in a cave for days and Musk called a British rescue diver a pedo..(pedophile).. Musk is the lowest of the low....

Musk got his balls in a twist because they refused to use a useless submarine Musk had created...

Musk was insulted over it as he was after glory of rescuing the boys...the Brits and us got the boys out and had to sedate them to manually pull them through the caves and tunnels...all survived..

Musk always has been a wanker and always will be....

 
 
 
Freefaller
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6.1.2  Freefaller  replied to  shona1 @6.1.1    one month ago

I remember the kids trapped in the cave and the SCUBA rescue but never heard of a Musk submarine.  Lol too funny, thanks Shona

 
 
 
shona1
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6.1.3  shona1  replied to  Freefaller @6.1.2    one month ago

Yeah.. this would have worked really well in the caves and tunnels some running at 90 degree angles...he was told it was completely unsuitable..

That's when he threw his massive hissy fits...what a wanker..

Not my photo.. the rescuers had more brains...

256

 
 
 
freepress
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7  freepress    one month ago

We should do the same here because he certainly isn't showing any knowledge of our Constitution, our laws, our government or showing any loyalty the American people. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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8  seeder  Bob Nelson    one month ago

This morning‘s headline says "280 000" and still rising.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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8.1  Sparty On  replied to  Bob Nelson @8    one month ago

Things will start slowing down once they burn through all the liberal liberal universities and French Canadian strongholds.    
Regardless, no one really cares, least of all Musk but go for it ……

 
 

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