Reciprocal tariffs
Yesterday, President Trump held up a chart at the White House Rose Garden detailing the reciprocal tariffs he would impose on the countries that America trades with. They weren't exactly reciprocal as they had a base line minimum of 10% and they were usually half of what many other countries charged the US. The President explained that the tariffs are necessary to counter trade barriers that other countries have placed on America. Clearly, he has a point: Other nations do have higher tariffs than the United States does.
The tariffs are in addition to past tolls, such as those Trump placed on China. They exempt some goods, including some forms of energy, pharmaceuticals and things that have already been tariffed, such as cars, steel and aluminum.
Trump offered one consolation: Trump said he would withdraw his tariffs if other countries rescinded their own trade barriers. Israel has already dropped all of its tariffs on US goods and Canada has offered to do the same. This issue will help to define President Trump's second term. It may be part of a success story or a monumental failure. We are only halfway through the first chapter.
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Good morning and welcome to the news.
Let us all grab our coffee and make plans for another big day.
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Good!!!
Fanatics are going to fanatic.
That's a breaking story.
Good job.
Bubba is gonna love that nancy-boy.
I've been following the Canadian news fairly closely and I never saw that. Do you have a link to a source I can open?
He may not speak for all of Canada, but I heard it last night:
"Ontario Premier Doug Ford said Canada is willing to remove all tariffs currently imposed on the United States if the Donald Trump administration backs down on its own measures, set to be announced on Wednesday in what he has described as "Liberation Day."
Canadian Premier Says He's Willing To Remove Tariffs 'Tomorrow' If Trump Backs Down
Now we are talking. Hope it happens. No one really wins in a trade war like this so it’s unfortunate that threats of tariffs is required to bring some folks to the table.
It has yet to shake itself out and it remains to be seen how it will work out.
I have hope it will end for the best. For both parties
I'm hoping that we can return to the time when average Americans can afford homes and cars again.
Still paying for 40 year high inflation. Unfortunately that won’t magically go away just because rates are lower right now.
It is going to take time. It's like getting a boy through boot camp.
a willfully ignorant comment ...
It is called FACT checking.
BREAKING: AG Pam Bondi announces charges against Cooper Frederick for allegedly firebombing a Tesla dealership in Loveland, Colorado.
He faces up to 20 years in prison.
Looks like a college boy.
U.S. District Judge Anthony Trenga just blocked the CIA and the Office of Director of National Intelligence from firing employees who worked on DEI initiatives.
Trenga, the judge who also oversaw Durham’s case against the Russian-born Igor Danchenko, kneecapped the special counsel ahead of the October 2022 trial, including ruling that Durham could not use details from the FBI’s prior counterintelligence investigation into Danchenko. He was accused of being the main source for British ex-spy Christopher Steele’s debunked dossier . Trenga limited a host of other evidence Durham had sought to show the jury as well.
During the trial, Trenga dealt Durham's case another blow as he dismissed one of the false-statement charges brought against Danchenko, who was acquitted of all charges in October 2022. The Eastern District of Virginia is known for handling many national security cases, and Trenga has also been a member of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court since May 2020, and has been the presiding judge on the secretive court since May 2023.
Same judge blocking CIA efforts to fire DEI employees hamstrung the Steele Dossier prosecution | Just The News
The same judge? Interesting.
When does a DISTRICT JUDGE have jurisdiction over federal departments?
Never.....
THIS! Sen. John Kennedy Throws YUGE Wrench Into Fed. District Courts Trying to BLOCK Trump Admin (Watch) – Twitchy
I'm sure it was a "random" drawing to get this judge s/
It happened again just hours ago. I was in the Deli line, and I grabbed a ticket: It said Judge Trenga on it!
Hopefully people are paying attention. Our friends on the left are banking on it that they are not and their attempts to steamroll the system will go unnoticed.
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Americans got it already.
Our friends on the left are banking on it that they are not and their attempts to steamroll the system will go unnoticed.
In Europe they have adopted the American left's lawfare to ban the opposition. Just in the past year they did it in Rumania, Germany and France.
The word out of Tokyo this morning:
Holy shit, Trump meant business!
It's hilarious that the very people demanding that everybody buy an EV are now vandalizing and destroying EV's. Just shows it was never about the environment as they claimed, it was about control.
It's kind of like how they were with wearing masks.
It's virtue signaling without virtue.
I call them as they are - hypocrites.
I have names for them that I can't mention here.
I think a few of us are being kind today.
Bingo!
Don't want to make certain people cry any more than they already are.
Crying because their nest egg died?
Mines fine …. Of course you need to have one for it to be fine or dead ……
That's there entire climate policy in a nutshell.
It's always something going to happen in 10 years. Then nothing happens outside of wasted money.
Well it's not wasted money if you're on the inside raking it in. How the hell does someone making an annual salary of $174,000 become a multi-millionaire?
Explains why Democrats are fighting everything so much.
It’s fun watching them try to rationalize their way out of this one.
The lies just get larger and more plentiful.
It's almost like they are in competition with themselves to come up with the most idiotic justification.
I blame us.
Both Republicans and Democrats, that have let them get away with unfair trade practices for so long. Now that is the status quo for Canada. What they are used to. So the temper tantrum is expected.
Calmer heads will prevail on both sides and the chicken littles here will need to find something else to whine about.
Canada is the neighbor that steals free internet from you and then get pissed off when you change the WI-FI password and demands you give it to them because they are entitled to it, because they have had a free ride for so long.
lol … great analogy.
And the US stock market is already losing trillions in valuation today!
That is true. Hopefully, it will gain it all back.
Too soon to make a call.
"Economics is just math" - Bill Clinton
"The future of private enterprise capitalism is also the future of a free society. There is no possibility of having a politically free society unless the major part of its economic resources are operated under a capitalistic private enterprise system." ....Milton Friedman
MAGA are fixing to learn again why John Maynard Keynes is The Father Of Modern Economics, and Milton Friedman IS NOT...
Keynes would have been astonished to learn that democrats used his policies in good times.
They were nothing more than government solutions to an economic crisis.
Yes, it is called monetary policy and it is why America led the world economically.
Led, as in past tense. As in 3 months ago!
I guess you must be celebrating Trump's tariffs since you support Keynes and think Friedman, who opposed tariffs, is wrong about everything.
Let me write it down. Monetary policy = $36 Trillion in debt, a 9% inflation rate and $1 Trillion paying for interest on the debt.
Since we are quoting, how about this:
My fellow Americans:
This week, as we prepared for Thanksgiving, Canada held an important election, and I'm pleased to again send my congratulations to Prime Minister Mulroney. One of the important issues in the Canadian election was trade. And like our own citizens earlier this month, our neighbors have sent a strong message, rejecting protectionism and reaffirming that more trade, not less, is the wave of the future.
Here in America, as we reflect on the many things we have to be grateful for, we should take a moment to recognize that one of the key factors behind our nation's great prosperity is the open trade policy that allows the American people to freely exchange goods and services with free people around the world. The freedom to trade is not a new issue for America. In 1776 our Founding Fathers signed the Declaration of Independence, charging the British with a number of offenses, among them, and I quote, "cutting off our trade with all parts of the world," end quote.
And that same year, a Scottish economist named Adam Smith launched another revolution with a book entitled "The Wealth of Nations," which exposed for all time the folly of protectionism. Over the past 200 years, not only has the argument against tariffs and trade barriers won nearly universal agreement among economists but it has also proven itself in the real world, where we have seen free-trading nations prosper while protectionist countries fall behind.
America's most recent experiment with protectionism was a disaster for the working men and women of this country. When Congress passed the Smoot-Hawley tariff in 1930, we were told that it would protect America from foreign competition and save jobs in this country—the same line we hear today. The actual result was the Great Depression, the worst economic catastrophe in our history; one out of four Americans were thrown out of work. Two years later, when I cast my first ballot for President, I voted for Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who opposed protectionism and called for the repeal of that disastrous tariff.
Ever since that time, the American people have stayed true to our heritage by rejecting the siren song of protectionism. In recent years, the trade deficit led some misguided politicians to call for protectionism, warning that otherwise we would lose jobs. But they were wrong again. In fact, the United States not only didn't lose jobs, we created more jobs than all the countries of Western Europe, Canada, and Japan combined. The record is clear that when America's total trade has increased, American jobs have also increased. And when our total trade has declined, so have the number of jobs.
Part of the difficulty in accepting the good news about trade is in our words. We too often talk about trade while using the vocabulary of war. In war, for one side to win, the other must lose. But commerce is not warfare. Trade is an economic alliance that benefits both countries. There are no losers, only winners. And trade helps strengthen the free world.
Yet today protectionism is being used by some American politicians as a cheap form of nationalism, a fig leaf for those unwilling to maintain America's military strength and who lack the resolve to stand up to real enemies—countries that would use violence against us or our allies. Our peaceful trading partners are not our enemies; they are our allies. We should beware of the demagogues who are ready to declare a trade war against our friends—weakening our economy, our national security, and the entire free world—all while cynically waving the American flag. The expansion of the international economy is not a foreign invasion; it is an American triumph, one we worked hard to achieve, and something central to our vision of a peaceful and prosperous world of freedom.
After the Second World War, America led the way to dismantle trade barriers and create a world trading system that set the stage for decades of unparalleled economic growth. And in one week, when important multilateral trade talks are held in Montreal, we will be in the forefront of efforts to improve this system. We want to open more markets for our products, to see to it that all nations play by the rules, and to seek improvement in such areas as dispute resolution and agriculture. We also want to bring the benefits of free trade to new areas, including services, investment, and the protection of intellectual property. Our negotiators will be working hard for all of us.
Yes, back in 1776, our Founding Fathers believed that free trade was worth fighting for. And we can celebrate their victory because today trade is at the core of the alliance[s] that secure the peace and guarantee our freedom; it is the source of our prosperity and the path to an even brighter future for America.
Until next week, thanks for listening, and God bless you.
Source: Ronald Reagan, "Radio Address to the Nation on the Canadian Elections and Free Trade ," November 26, 1988. Online by Gerhard Peters and John T. Woolley, The American Presidency Project . .
Youtube clip from the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library: .
Were Reagan and our founding fathers wrong?
Nothing like jumping off of a ship when it is the middle of the ocean, by which I am referring to the Trump economic policy.
Reagan was rarely wrong, but in this case there is a small factual error.
The Great Depression was not the result of Smoot Hawley. It was already well underway when the act was passed. That does not negate the point that it was not helpful.
However, Smoot Hawley was better than what we're doing now, where we have a single person behaving erratically and devastating the global economy.
The scarier part, IMO, is that Trump's economic team absolutely knows better. Which means he has assembled some very capable people and is ignoring their counsel.
You are watching your own investments crater and yet continue posting comments indicating a blind trust in the 'genius' of Trump.
Over time the market will naturally recover. What is not likely to recover naturally are our international relationships and GDP. Trump seems to not understand the concept of a global economy. He seems to think that the USA economic power is independent of working with other nations. We are in a very precarious situation with a loose-cannon imbecile wielding the power of the presidency in such an irresponsible, damaging fashion with almost four more years of this clown at the helm.
Agreed that the Great Depression was in progress but most economist would say that the Smoot Hawley Act, made it much worse.
I also have to agree with this statement:
Yeah. I'd agree with that.
It will undoubtedly gain it all back.
The questions are:
Excellent questions. I have seen a few people suggest Americans should consider this like a sacrifice during war time. I know it is early in the year but I nominate those comments the dumbest of the year.
Over the past 70 years the US became deindustrialized because of tariffs from countries we were trying to help.
So much angst over Trump simply doing to others what they did to us.
That is such an oversimplification, it is shocking to read.
The USA labor costs are the primary driver of manufacturing centers relocating across the planet. The workers in Vietnam, China, etc. earn substantially less than USA workers yet are human beings fully capable of learning how to do the jobs required. There is no need for manufacturing firms to pay such high labor costs in the USA.
And Trump cannot reverse this trend. He thinks (possibly) that by imposing tariffs the manufacturing companies will magically relocated to the USA. The only way manufacturing (barring some exceptions) will return to the USA is through the use of robotic technology. Manufacturing operations that are conventional, human-labor-centric, will remain in nations whose labor costs are lower. That is basic economics.
All tariffs will do is is raise consumer prices. They will drive down consumption in the USA and thus our GDP. Further, the damage Trump continues to do in terms of global trade will necessarily result in fewer exports from the USA and thus another hit on our GDP. The list of potential bad effects here is sickening and it is all unnecessary.
The way the USA prospers is to be a powerhouse working in an open global trade environment. We buy cheap goods for our purposes (manufacturing and personal) and then excel primarily on innovation and technological prowess. We should, for example, be focuses critically on renewable energy both in terms of the technology and exporting the actual energy. We will succeed by being the best in what the world needs most. Energy is a fine example of that.
That is the positive, growth-oriented, winning strategy. Trump is doing the opposite — he is operating as a retrograde protectionist. He is trying cut costs (but in a stupid fashion) and trying to force the USA to be isolated and entirely self-sufficient. That is a perfect recipe for shrinking the GDP and opening the door for other nations to entirely displace the USA on the world economic stage.
Trump is a clown. He is a stubborn fool who is unfit for the presidency. Trump is damaging our nation and will continue to do so until his supporters get a clue and start criticizing this idiot instead of trying to defend his foolish, damaging actions.
Buy on the drops. The fearful are climbing that "wall of worry".
I know I am............buying that is. Chicken Little was never one of my favorite "fictional characters".
If you bought stock yesterday you are already down, bigly...
It would have been unwise to believe that neoliberals would go quietly into the night. In the short term we should expect the financial wizards to impose as much pain as possible on economies big and small. It is rather difficult to believe that the middlemen driving the panic would wax nostalgic for tax-and-spend Democrats over the long haul.
The long term risk will be a gross influx of foreign capital into the US which would eventually require increasing business taxes and overturn what the tariffs are supposed to do. Never underestimate the power of parasites to ruin a good thing.
If anyone believes that chart or this ridiculous voodoo tariff scenario there's an island full of penguins to conquer.
There is no realistic scenario of a good ending for this absolute madness.
The entire world is banding together to protect their own economies partnering with every major country Trump snubbed.
Everything will cost more, supply chains won't matter because deliveries will go to other countries willing to make deals, trade, and cooperate. We will suffer because our reputation has been trashed by Trump deliberately.
If everything Trump does is "wonderful" why has the defense of Trump now switched to "pain is okay", "pain is only temporary", "pain is necessary". I thought Trump would usher in prosperity?
Stock markets crashing, prices rising, massive job losses acceptable, cutting the FDA, HHS, and CDC, cancer research funding, Nobel Prize winning researchers fired, exodus of Medical talent going overseas, the list is long and the effects will hit very very soon.
Food and Drugs will be less safe for all of us, red states will be hit the hardest since the Republicans in those states already opted to cut state run programs.
None of this is making America great. So keep cheerleading Trump, Musk, and the billionaire wrecking crew. Unless you are in that club able to pay the price then you are cheering for nothing.
Where did you get your degree in economics?
It's that time again.
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It's really very simple. Trump is attempting to level the playing field after our adversaries and even some of our supposed allies have taken an unfair advantage for decades.
It is appropriate to use a cartoon because this is just beyond naive. Pathetically so.
A trade deficit with an individual nation is not in itself bad. If we have a trading partner that supplies us with what we need at a price that is better than what we can produce domestically, it is valuable to both consumers and the GDP (lower costs of production) to buy from the partner. The partner is not 'ripping us off', we have chosen to buy from them.
Trump is an idiot. His absurdly simplistic notion that trade must be balanced with each nation is not only economically flawed, but it is next to impossible to achieve.
The only part of this that Trump has correct is that in aggregate it is better for the USA to have a trade surplus rather than a trade deficit. That strengthens the USA dollar and increases our independence. If that can be achieved as part of a sensible, long-term strategy then that would actually be a good move. But this brain-dead-stupid notion that balance must be achieved for each nation individually (not in aggregate) and achieved in the short-term, and achieved through threats and punitive across-the-board tariffs is the most irresponsible and unnecessary act I have seen taken by a PotUS.
Trump supporters who think Trump is doing good need to stop listening to his bullshit and do some actual learning about trade and tariffs.
In the meantime, your 'genius' PotUS is doing serious harm to our economy and international relationships. Some of this damage is going to take many years to repair (if ever). Quit supporting / quit defending this buffoon.
While it may be worthwhile in theory Trump may have overplayed his hand and didn't correctly understand the pushback. By doing it to all countries at the same time the United states has become the common enemy. If I were one of the countries I would form an alliance with some of the other countries and give higher tariffs right back. Than I would sit back and wait while prices go up and the stock market crashes. I seem to recall many people were not willing to buy into the inflation is transitory bullshit, I will be surprised I Donald gets alot of leeway from people since he ran on curbing inflation.
Under what theory is a broad-scope across-the-board set of tariffs considered smart?
Explain this to us all.
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Trump has taught the other nations of the world that the USA is unreliable, and that they must diversify and expand their sources and customer base. He has, IMO, by imposing exaggerated protectionism given China a tremendous boost as a partner of and in a growing multilateral trading world.
It would not be surprising if they were thinking in those terms. Some may be willing to see how it goes in the next several months and see if the stock market and prices increasing will pressure Trump to head in a different direction. He may have thought this would bring them to the negotiating table but doing all countries at once may only make other countries look to each other. What is does show is a country should not be overly reliant on any other country. China comes to mind. If anyone is reliant on them it would be easy to screwed if China decided to squeeze them.
I never said it was.
It's okay, I fully understand why it's so important for America to make China the 'bad guy'.
The pathetic pedantic tactic when busted.
Under what theory is a broad-scope across-the-board set of tariffs considered
smartworthwhile?Try again. I wasn't talking about a broad-scope across-the-board set of tariffs when referring to "in theory "
Not my point but feel free to go with it
It it walks like a duck, and it talks like a duck.......
Because they are the bad guy.
And what are your logical reasons for arriving at that conclusion. Do you have any personal knowledge to back up your opinion, or are you simply relying on the misinformation, disinformation, deliberate lies that you read. Have you ever been to China to see for yourself?
Well that is what Trump just did. So you now want to claim that you were not talking about what Trump did?
Another feeble tactic.
Under what theory are Trump's tariff actions (what he actually did) considered worthwhile?
Once again you insist I explain a comment I never made. Such a feeble tactic.
Take a look at the post I was responding to, especially the second part. IN THEORY it would be nice if we were on a level playing field. The rest of the post that you conveniently ignored says why I don't think the way Trump did it (across the board tariffs) will yield the fruits he was planning on.
China's actions make it the bad guy. Ask its neighbors. We all have access to the news.
Denying what you wrote is not going to accomplish anything good.
Explain the theory where it is worthwhile for Trump to impose tariffs as he has done.
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We have been playing too nice and too easy for too long.
President Donald Trump's "Art of the Deal" appears to be playing out right before our eyes, as multiple countries now want to charge the U.S. zero tariffs in exchange for the same in America's market.
And the president has indicated he's open to that.
Trump's 'Art of the Deal' Tariff Strategy Working: Countries Want to Cut to Zero
Seems trade with the USA is important enough to get concessions after all
It appears that the party is over.
Trump holds the big card: America's market.
He always had that card (big stick). The problem is how he has stupidly used it and unnecessarily caused long-term damage. see @12.3.4
Trump is all over the map. He claimed that tariffs were going to bring in all sorts of revenue to fund his initiatives. Now he is happy to have zero tariffs?
I am all for Trump backing away from his tariffs and I do not care why it is done. I just hope that this story ends up being true. His tariffs are brain-dead stupid and have already caused damage that will not simply be erased by Trump backing off. But the sooner he backs off, the sooner the damage can start to be reversed.
I'm assuming that not every country will agree to a zero-tariff policy, but I think it will be interesting to see how the EU goes. I agree with what Trump said about them.
It shall be interesting.
I can only hope that the other nations are more sensible than Trump. That they will be the adults in the room and negotiate a sensible end to this idiocy.
That may be easier said than done, especially for nations that made it impossible for US auto makers to sell cars in their countries.
You cannot force a nation to buy US products. Even if Europe dropped tariffs on U.S. automobiles, that wouldn’t suddenly surge a US market. European consumers already have strong preferences for local brands, and U.S. cars often don’t align with their tastes or environmental standards.
And then, add to that the collateral damage that Trump needlessly generated with his reckless tariff policies. Do you really think Europeans are open to buying US cars? Maybe over time, but almost certainly NOT while Trump is PotUS.
"Not so fast, Louie." There are still nations that have the balls to stand firm and fight back. The "bully" tactic hasn't brought Canada or China to its knees for example, and let's see what the EU does.
I'm thinking that Canada bends and that means giving up those barriers on dairy products. I'll put China in the resist category. As for the EU, I want them brought to their knees.
BTW Buzz, I know you like good jokes and I heard one today from a car dealer, believe it or not:
Putin visits a Russian elementary school. He sits with 6th graders and asks if there are any questions the students would like to ask. Dimitri raises his hand and asks why Putin invaded Ukraine. Suddenly the lunch bell went off and all the students went to lunch. Afterwards they returned to class, where Putin said "Where were we, oh yes, are there any questions?" This time Alexander raised his hand and Putin called on him. Alexander said I have 3 questions: 1) why did you invade Ukraine? 2) Why did we have lunch an hour early? and 3) What happened to Dimitri?
The problem is that Trump has inflicted damage that is not going to be repaired by any deal. His tariffs are akin to taking a sledgehammer to someone's car to get them to stop parking in your spot. Far better to engage in private negotiation with the sledgehammer in one's hand.
Per Canada, for example, even if Trump backed off on all the tariffs he imposed, Canada as our close friend and trading partner is diminished (how much, hard to say). Canadians, appropriately, have lost trust in the USA and even after Trump is gone will not be as trusting because the USA electorate has shown that we are stupid enough to elect this clown as PotUS and thus could elect another irresponsible buffoon as PotUS.
I don't know if you recall, but Trump recently took questions on Air Force One. Somebody asked why he hit every country with tariffs the way he did. Trump told the reporter that if he asked countries to consider renegotiating trade deals, sort of as a favor, they would have said no. This way they suddenly want to do us a favor.
I liked that answer.
Step one: engage a nation in private discussion towards a trade deal.
Step two: if the nation says 'no', privately threaten tariffs (or whatever). This is showing the big stick.
Step three: If the nation continues to say 'no' then (if Trump wants to play this tariff game) privately state the terms of the tariff and when they will be applied.
Step four: If the nation continues to say 'no' then publicly announce the terms of the tariff.
Step five: If the nation does not bow to public pressure, impose the tariffs as promised.
Far better way to achieve desired results without alienating the planet and triggering global trade wars.
You want the US to be liked?
Of course! But that is NOT the point.
I did not expect to get an honest answer which deals with what I posted; so no surprise.
There is an old Latin saying that I believe comes from a Roman Senator:
Melius est odi et respexi quam placere et stultus fieri.
And my argument is that it is best to get what you want while minimizing adverse effects.
As I noted by example: His tariffs are akin to taking a sledgehammer to someone's car to get them to stop parking in your spot. Far better to engage in private negotiation with the sledgehammer in one's hand.
Trust is a very fragile entity, and as a Canadian I know that my personal feelings of my nation being betrayed and ridiculed by an American PotUS will not fade, and I am a typical Canadian.
Bullshit!!! Trudeau went to Washington to negotiate with Trump, and then spent 1.3 billion dollars beefing up the border, purchased Blackhawks to patrol and apponted a person to specifically focus on and improve border security. That wasn't good enough, because the man who seems to control the brains of his supporters went ahead and slapped Canada's face with insults and tariffs.
Interesting. I never realized Canadians were so thin skinned. I am the typical American and I really don't care who other countries vote in as their leader and what they say about us. It is up to our government to deal with them no matter who they are, not me.
I will say that when I went to Quebec Americans were not liked very much and often would only speak French to us. That was several years ago, maybe it is still true there.
A lesson too late for the learning. The ignoramus' goal was to be theatrical.
And you are aware, of course, of the demise of the Roman Empire.
It's no use, TiG, you can't expect the Trump infection to be easily cured.
As a Canadian I don't give a shit what he or others SAY about us, but I DO give a shit when they deliberately try to HARM us. The last laugh is going to be when Americans realize how much the one THEY voted in is going to HARM you and them..