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Trump sets sights on Greenland

  

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Via:  john-russell  •  10 months ago  •  54 comments

Trump sets sights on Greenland
Donald Trump has set his sights on a US takeover of Greenland after capturing Nicolas Maduro and saying he would run Venezuela.

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Donald Trump has set his sights on a US takeover of Greenland after capturing Nicolas Maduro and saying he would run Venezuela.

“We do need Greenland, absolutely,” the US president told The Atlantic magazine, adding that the Danish territory was “surrounded by Russian and Chinese ships”.

He said officials in his administration would decide what happened to Greenland, which Mr Trump has claimed the US must annex for its security.

“We need it for defence,” he said of Greenland.

President Trump has declared that America needs Greenland for “national security.”

Mette Frederiksen, the Danish prime minister, urged Mr Trump to “stop the threats”, adding that Greenland is “not for sale”.
“The US has no right to annex any of the three nations in the Danish kingdom,” she said, pointing out that Denmark already has a defence agreement with America, which gives it access to Greenland, and that Copenhagen had boosted its investment in the Arctic region’s security.

“I would therefore strongly urge the United States to stop the threats against a historically close ally and against another country and another people who have very clearly said that they are not for sale,” she added.
Jens-Frederik Nielsen, the prime minister of Greenland, earlier on Sunday rebuked the Trump administration, calling it “disrespectful” and saying that the territory was “not for sale”.

He was referring to an image posted on social media by Katie Miller, the wife of Mr Trump’s deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller, showing the map of Greenland painted with the US flag and captioned “SOON”.

The mission to capture Mr Maduro has triggered concerns about further US military operations in the Western hemisphere, which the Trump administration views as part of America’s sphere of influence.

A US invasion of Greenland is deemed unlikely by analysts who point out that the Danish territory is a part of the Nato alliance along with the United States.

However, the renewed threats are likely to alarm European leaders as the American split with the continent grows.
Katie Miller, wife of one of Mr Trump’s aides, posted a map of Greenland covered in the US flag online

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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    10 months ago
A social media post by  Katie Miller , a senior aide in the Trump administration and the wife of longtime Trump adviser and current Deputy Chief of Staff  Stephen Miller , sparked international reaction after she shared an image of Greenland covered in a U.S. flag with the caption: “SOON.”
 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @1    10 months ago

greenland is likely a misdirection. this story is probably a smoke screen for trump's half ass naval blockade of cuba.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  seeder  JohnRussell    10 months ago

We have a group of mentally ill people running our government. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  seeder  JohnRussell    10 months ago
He said officials in his administration would decide what happened to Greenland, which Mr Trump has claimed the US must annex for its security. “We need it for defence,” he said of Greenland.

Trump says the people who live in Greenland (or Denmark) wont determine or decide what happens to Greenland, he and his aides will. 

And he says this lunatic shit so matter- of- factly. 

 
 
 
CB
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4  CB    10 months ago

I knew it. The moment I heard RUBIO state: "President Trump is a man of action. What he says he will do he does." Let the outrage begin before Greenland is annexed. Then, once the "little" countries are rolled-up; look out Canada!  

So now what citizens of America? How do you like (and respect) yourselves now?

 
 
 
GregTx
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4.1  GregTx  replied to  CB @4    10 months ago

LOL

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5  Right Down the Center    10 months ago

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(not an actual statement made by Trump)

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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6  sandy-2021492    10 months ago

Cue the "it's just a joke!  They don't mean it that way!  Where's your sense of humor?" crowd.

Sick.  Just sick.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6    10 months ago

Trump doesnt joke about these things, and besides he's had many chances to say he is just joking about Greenland. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6    10 months ago

Comment #5 is a perfect example of "it's just a joke"

 
 
 
MrFrost
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7  MrFrost    10 months ago
Donald Trump has set his sights on a US takeover of Greenland after capturing Nicolas Maduro and saying he would run Venezuela.

Wow, good thing he isn't a dictator..... /s

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.1  bugsy  replied to  MrFrost @7    10 months ago

Can you show what Trump has DONE that makes him a dictator?

No imagination or dreams allowed.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @7.1    10 months ago

Why dont you address the article instead of constantly asking pointless questions.  Greenland and Denmark have both told Trump numerous times that Greenland will not become part of America.  What is there about that that MAGA and Trump dont understand? Now he says it is up to him to decide what happens to Greenland, the day after he says the US is running Venezuela. 

What do you think of Trumps attempt to bully Greenland ? 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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7.1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  bugsy @7.1    10 months ago
Can you show what Trump has DONE that makes him a dictator?
AI Overview
Donald Trump has faced numerous accusations and legal challenges regarding actions alleged by critics, legal scholars, and political opponents to violate the Constitution. The following list summarizes key instances cited by various sources
.  
  • Violations of the Appointments Clause : The administration was accused of keeping "acting" officials in key positions, such as at the Department of Homeland Security, beyond the statutory limit of 210 days without Senate confirmation, which several courts ruled unlawful.
  • Impoundment of Appropriated Funds : The Trump administration faced multiple lawsuits and court orders for withholding billions of dollars in funds that Congress had appropriated for specific programs (including military construction, public health grants, and foreign aid), an action experts argue violates the Constitution's separation of powers and the President's lack of "power of the purse".
  • Emoluments Clause Violations : Critics and watchdog groups, such as   Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) , argue that Trump's continued ownership of businesses that received payments from foreign governments and state-backed entities during his presidency violated the Foreign Emoluments Clause.
  • First Amendment Violations :
    • Attacks on the Press : Trump frequently criticized news organizations and revoked press credentials, which critics argued was an attempt to suppress speech and an abuse of power.
    • Blocking Social Media Users : A U.S. Court of Appeals ruled that Trump's practice of blocking critics on his @realDonaldTrump Twitter account constituted viewpoint discrimination in a public forum, violating the First Amendment.
    • Targeting Political Opponents and Law Firms : Actions taken against law firms whose attorneys had investigated him or represented opposing viewpoints, including stripping security clearances and terminating government contracts, were described by judges as unconstitutional attempts to punish speech and violate due process.
  • Abuse of Executive Power/Rule of Law :
    • Bypassing Congress on War Powers : The administration conducted airstrikes in Syria without seeking congressional authorization to declare war, which some lawmakers argued violated the War Powers Clause.
    • Firing of Inspectors General and Civil Servants : The firing of numerous independent inspectors general and experienced federal prosecutors and career officials without notice to Congress or just cause was seen as an assault on the independent oversight functions of government.
    • Disregard for Court Orders : The administration was cited in several instances for failing to comply with court orders, which further threatened the separation of powers.
  • Fourteenth Amendment Issues : Executive orders aimed at ending birthright citizenship were considered a direct contradiction of the 14th Amendment's plain text and were legally challenged.  
These actions led legal experts and organizations like the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and the Brennan Center for Justice to argue that the administration was repeatedly challenging the constitutional separation of powers and the rule of law. Many of these actions faced extensive litigation, with judges on numerous occasions issuing rulings against the administration.  
 
 
 
MrFrost
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7.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  bugsy @7.1    10 months ago
Can you show what Trump has DONE that makes him a dictator?

Read my post, it's right there in quotes. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1.4  devangelical  replied to  bugsy @7.1    10 months ago
Can you show what Trump has DONE that makes him a dictator?

now that you've read the evidence presented, why don't you try and defend what trump has done? I'd be very interested in hearing the opinion of a 2024 trump voter that took an oath to defend the constitution the same time he made serving in the military his career choice. next you can defend how well you think trump is fulfilling his oath of office ...

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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7.1.5  Ozzwald  replied to  devangelical @7.1.4    10 months ago
now that you've read the evidence presented, why don't you try and defend what trump has done?

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bugsy
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7.1.6  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @7.1.2    10 months ago
Violations of the Appointments Clause

Say it out loud....Jack Smith

"Impoundment of Appropriated Funds "

Most courts above district courts have ordered Trump can withhold those funds.

Emoluments Clause Violations"

Rest assured of it is illegal, then every far left ambulance chasing law firm would sue him for it. Where are the lawsuits and the judicial orders that say he broke the law.?

"First Amendment Violations "

Where was your poutrage when twitter and facebook, in conjunction with the Biden admin, censored posts critical of the Biden admin's narrative on COVID. First amendment violations were not being taken away by Trump as those same people you cited can say whatever they wanted on other sites. 

"Bypassing Congress on War Powers"

Again, where was your poutrage when Obama struck several sites in other countries, including Syria, killing American citizens....all without going to Congress?

"Firing of Inspectors General and Civil Servants :"

And again, many courts above the rogue district courts have sided with Trump and said he could do those firings. 

"Disregard for Court Orders :"

Can you say "student loans"?

"Fourteenth Amendment Issues"

The Supreme Court will make the decision next year. That is what courts are for, not some whiny leftist group whose money flow will come to an end of the amendment is successfully challenged. 

"with judges on numerous occasions issuing rulings against the administration."

Of course, your confirmation biased AI forgot to mention that many more cases have ended with judges siding with Trump. I wonder why AI left that out s/

Anything else?

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.1.7  bugsy  replied to  MrFrost @7.1.3    10 months ago
it's right there in quotes. 

Show me the quotation marks in 7

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.1.8  bugsy  replied to  devangelical @7.1.4    10 months ago
now that you've read the evidence presented,

And debunked it

"why don't you try and defend what trump has done?"

I did...successfully

"I'd be very interested in hearing the opinion of a 2024 trump voter that took an oath to defend the constitution the same time he made serving in the military his career choice. "

Your wish is granted

"next you can defend how well you think trump is fulfilling his oath of office '

He is doing exactly what we voted him to do. Liberal tears make it all the better.

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.1.9  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @7.1.5    10 months ago
next you can defend how well you think trump is fulfilling his oath of office

That post didn't age well.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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7.1.10  Ozzwald  replied to  bugsy @7.1.9    10 months ago

That post didn't age well.

And yet you are not defending it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1.11  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @7.1.9    10 months ago

This article is about Greenland.  Do you think we should claim Greenland as US territory? 

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.1.12  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.11    10 months ago
Do you think we should claim Greenland as US territory? 

No

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.1.13  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @7.1.10    10 months ago
nd yet you are not defending it.

Um, 7.1.6 is there for your reading pleasure

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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7.1.14  Ozzwald  replied to  bugsy @7.1.13    10 months ago
Um, 7.1.6 is there for your reading pleasure

Fictitious claims and whataboutisms are not a defense.

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.1.15  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @7.1.14    10 months ago

And exactly what is your proof that my post was "fictitious claims and whataboutisms"?

You can't counter any of the posts and the "whataboutism" is using a well known leftist tactic to bring Trump into a conversation, no matter if he is the subject or not. In this case, I am pointing out leftist double standards. Easy thing to do. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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7.1.16  Ozzwald  replied to  bugsy @7.1.15    10 months ago
And exactly what is your proof that my post was "fictitious claims and whataboutisms"?

Violations of the Appointments Clause
Say it out loud....Jack Smith

Fictitious.  If the case had been continued, Cannon's ruling would have been thrown out....again. 

As proof: Lindsey Halligan:

AI Overview
Lindsey Halligan was appointed interim U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia in September 2025 by President Trump, but a federal judge ruled her appointment, and subsequent actions like indicting James Comey and Letitia James, were unlawful due to her lack of Senate confirmation and prior prosecutorial experience. Though the Attorney General later tried to ratify her role as a "Special Attorney," a judge found her original interim post invalid, leading to the dismissal of the cases against Comey and James, though the DOJ appealed. 
Cannon's decision was so bad and so ridiculous that even Trump's own attorney General ignored it.
"Impoundment of Appropriated Funds " Most courts above district courts have ordered Trump can withhold those funds.
Wrong, fictitious
AI Overview
The Supreme Court (SCOTUS) has had 
conflicting rulings regarding President Trump and congressionally allocated funds, notably allowing him to withhold billions in foreign aid in September 2025 but pausing an order for full SNAP funding in November 2025, while generally upholding Congress's "power of the purse" over the President's unilateral "impoundment" (withholding) of funds, reflecting ongoing legal tension over executive authority versus legislative intent, as seen in various court challenges during government shutdowns and budget disputes. 
"First Amendment Violations "

Where was your poutrage when twitter and facebook, in conjunction with the Biden admin

"Bypassing Congress on War Powers"

Again, where was your poutrage when Obama struck several sites in other countries, including Syria, killing American citizens....all without going to Congress?

"Disregard for Court Orders :"

Can you say "student loans"?

Whataboutisms at their finest.

 
 
 
bugsy
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7.1.17  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @7.1.16    10 months ago
The Supreme Court (SCOTUS) has had 
conflicting rulings regarding President Trump and congressionally allocated funds

No shit. That's why I stated Trump won some SCOTUS cases, lost others. 

"iolations of the Appointments Clause"

Your original statement insinuated that Trump was the only president to have conflict with the Appointments clause. I pointed out that dementia boy also had issues. You have zero idea what would have happened if the case had gone forward. Your opinion doesn't count.

"Whataboutisms at their finest."

What we on the correct side of the law have seen over the past couple of decades is whatever leftists accuse us of doing, rest assured the left has either already done it or are currently doing it.

My post proves that. 

You didn't debunk anything. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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7.1.18  MrFrost  replied to  bugsy @7.1.7    10 months ago

Show me the quotation marks in 7

Not my job to show you how to read posts. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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7.2  Krishna  replied to  MrFrost @7    10 months ago
Donald Trump has set his sights on a US takeover of Greenland after capturing Nicolas Maduro and saying he would run Venezuela.

We already have a base there:

Pituffik Space Base  ( / b iː d uː ˈ f iː k /   bee-doo- FEEK ; [ 4 ]   Greenlandic:   [pitufiːk] ;  IATA :  THU ,  ICAO :  BGTL ), formerly  Thule Air Base  ( / ˈ t uː l iː / ), is a  United States Space Force  base located on the northwest coast of  Greenland  in the  Kingdom of Denmark  under a defense agreement between Denmark and the  United States . 

The base is home to a substantial portion of the global network of missile warning sensors of  Space Delta 4 , and space surveillance and space control sensors of  Space Delta 2 , providing space awareness and advanced missile detection capabilities to  North American Aerospace Defense Command  (NORAD), the United States Space Force, and joint partners.

The base hosts the  12th Space Warning Squadron  (12 SWS), which operates a  Ballistic Missile Early Warning System  (BMEWS) designed to detect and track  ICBMs  launched against North America. The base is also host to Detachment 1 of the  23rd Space Operations Squadron , part of the  Space Delta 6 's global satellite control network. The airfield's 3,000 m (10,000 ft) runway handles more than 3,000 US and international flights per year. The base is also home to the northernmost deep water port in the world.

 
 
 
CB
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8  CB    10 months ago

When naysayers CAN start to believe Greenland is 'UP':

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Credit Images: ChatGPT.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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9  SteevieGee    10 months ago

Greenland?  The smart money's on Panama since he's already sent the fleet there.  Venezuela is Trump's Poland. Panama is Trump's Netherlands.  Greenland has to settle for Trump's Belgium.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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9.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  SteevieGee @9    10 months ago

I don't like where you're going with this. Will Canada be trmp's Austria?

 
 
 
CB
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9.1.1  CB  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.1    10 months ago

What y'all talking about, "Willis"? :)

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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9.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  CB @9.1.1    10 months ago

Stevie mentioned all the countries the Nazis invaded to "annex" more land for their people. Austria was the first to be annexed. It was right next door

 
 
 
CB
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9.1.3  CB  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.1.2    10 months ago

Got it. :)

 
 
 
freepress
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10  freepress    10 months ago

I know this administration is recruiting for ICE but where are the army recruitment posters? 

Why isn't MAGA filling up the military ranks to be deployed to a South American country, Cuba and now Greenland?

Now MAGA can forget about a Nobel Peace prize.

They have a full blown "Mission Accomplished" warmonger leader and a newly renamed Department of War, and Hegseth calling the men under his command "warfighters".

Not respected recruits, war fighting cannon fodder with a Fox News talking head ready to send our people to fight and die for oil and minerals.

Was it worth it MAGA? Was J6 worth all this?

 
 
 
George
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10.1  George  replied to  freepress @10    10 months ago

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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10.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  freepress @10    10 months ago

They'll change their minds when their sons and daughters come home in body bags

 
 
 
Freefaller
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11  Freefaller    10 months ago

I don't know what all this kerfuffle is about, if any other country should own Greenland it should be Canada.  I mean we at least share a land border as well as the worlds longest maritime border

 
 
 
Freewill
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12  Freewill    10 months ago

I don't have any trouble with Trump, or any administration, showing an interest in Greenland from both a defense and protection of rare earth mineral rights standpoint and have explained why in several previous articles HERE , HERE ,  HERE and HERE .  It is a fact that the U.S. already has a military presence there at Pituffik Space Base (was Thule Air Base) including advanced missile defense and space based defensive assets.  As far as rare earth minerals are concerned, I think it is more important that we present a better cooperative investment option in mining and protecting those minerals so that Greenland does not opt for say Chinese investment instead. From that standpoint the mineral issue is also a national and NATO defense concern when it comes to critical supply chains.

But showing an interest in Greenland and talking about "acquiring", "buying" or "taking over" Greenland are two very different things.  Two previous administrations have offered to buy Greenland and were rebuffed, same as Trump.  Trump did make headway after he dropped the "buy" schtick in his first administration as far as discussing and making investments in Greenland, strengthening our joint defensive positions there with Denmark under earlier treaties, and he reopened the U.S. consulate in Nuuk.  Trump should be focusing on continuing with those types of level-headed discussions and efforts that stalled somewhat during the Biden administration.  Instead he and some in his administration keep running their mouths using language that they must know will upset Denmark and especially the people of Greenland.  I just do not understand that approach, especially if it pushes Greenland into the arms of other non-NATO investors.

 
 
 
CB
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12.1  CB  replied to  Freewill @12    10 months ago
  I just do not understand that approach, especially if it pushes Greenland into the arms of other non-NATO investors.

Trump wants expediency. Why go through the long-hard tedious and non-sensuous process of making a deal when you can TAKEOVER Venezuela and then say to the world: See that? If you do not want MORE OF THE SAME: 'GIVE ME WHAT I WANT. . .AND MAKE IT QUICK'!

The Game: Mid-terms are coming. . . Trump wants to put as many so-called "bragging rights" (he will call them gains) on the board and then openly declare himself the best choice to be DESERVING of continuation of having a SUPPORTIVE GOP House and Senate.

Democrats better get off their butts and see through the 'smoke and mirrors' to what this. . .man's game is. . . and best him at it.

 
 
 
Freewill
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12.1.1  Freewill  replied to  CB @12.1    10 months ago
Why go through the long-hard tedious and non-sensuous process of making a deal when you can TAKEOVER Venezuela and then say to the world: See that? If you do not want MORE OF THE SAME: 'GIVE ME WHAT I WANT. . .AND MAKE IT QUICK'!

You really think that is what he is doing when it comes to Greenland?  How are those situations even remotely similar? In Venezuela the Administration claimed to be going after a vicious dictator and drug criminal doing great harm to the US and the world. Right or wrong, legal or illegal, that was their excuse.  There is no motive of that nature in Greenland.  I think it is a gross exaggeration to compare those two scenarios and it adds even more to the tension in our relationship with Greenland. 

The Game: Mid-terms are coming. . . Trump wants to put as many so-called "bragging rights" (he will call them gains) 

That was the point of my post above, he already had some bragging rights in Greenland with his reopening of the consulate there and he started some negotiations and mutually beneficial investment discussions that Denmark and Greenland both had interest in and they were actually disappointed that Biden did not continue with that.  Why then does Trump come back in this Administration with what sounds more like demands or threats which could wipe out the "gains" he had made in his first administration with respect to Greenland?  I saw some articles today where Rubio has downplayed the language Trump and some other members of his cabinet have used recently about Greenland and his State Department has said,

“The United States is eager to build lasting commercial relationships that benefit Americans and the people of Greenland,” a State Department spokesperson said. “Our common adversaries have been increasingly active in the Arctic. That is a concern that the United States, the Kingdom of Denmark, and NATO Allies share”

Bold emphasis mine. I think Trump and Hegseth need to shut their flappers and let more rational minds at the State Department continue what was started in Trump's first administration.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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12.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Freewill @12.1.1    10 months ago

Do we want to buy a country that is not for sale?

  Shouldnt military takeover be taken off the table?  Trumps press secretary says military action is not off the table. She is an official spokesperson for the President. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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12.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  Freewill @12.1.1    10 months ago
I think Trump and Hegseth need to shut their flappers and let more rational minds at the State Department continue what was started in Trump's first administration.

I agree ... assuming there are any rational minds in the State Department who have even a remote chance of influencing the diplomatic efforts.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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12.1.4  Gsquared  replied to  TᵢG @12.1.3    10 months ago
assuming there are any rational minds in the State Department

At this point, that's wishful thinking.  

 
 
 
Freewill
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12.1.5  Freewill  replied to  JohnRussell @12.1.2    10 months ago
Do we want to buy a country that is not for sale?

Not unless the potential seller changes their mind.  Like I said, Trump should drop that tactic like he did in 2019 and as did two other presidents before him.

 Shouldnt military takeover be taken off the table?  

Absofuckinglutely!  There is no reason to even hint at that as it will never happen.

 
 
 
Freewill
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12.1.6  Freewill  replied to  TᵢG @12.1.3    10 months ago
assuming there are any rational minds in the State Department who have even a remote chance of influencing the diplomatic efforts

Well whoever at the State Dept said, "The United States is eager to build lasting commercial relationships that benefit Americans and the people of Greenland,” seems fairly rational. Let's start there.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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12.1.7  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Freewill @12.1.5    10 months ago
Absofuckinglutely!  There is no reason to even hint at that as it will never happen.

But it hasnt been taken off the table.  You act like Trump is not a lunatic. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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12.1.8  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Freewill @12.1.6    10 months ago

Read this article and get back to me.

The Party Of Evil - Community | The NewsTalkers

"So, in brief: Trump has dismantled America’s foreign-aid infrastructure and gutted a program, built by an earlier Republican president, that saved the lives of Africans infected with HIV; he has encouraged the United States military to commit war crimes; he has instituted radical cuts to U.S. science and medical funding and abetted a crusade against vaccines; he has appointed conspiracists, alcoholics, and idiots to key positions in his administration; he has destroyed the independence of the Justice Department; he has waged pitiless war on prosecutors, FBI agents, and others who previously investigated him, his family, and his friends; he has cast near-fatal doubt on America’s willingness to fulfill its treaty obligations to its democratic allies; he has applauded Vladimir Putin for his barbarism and castigated Ukraine for its unwillingness to commit suicide; he has led racist attacks on various groups of immigrants; he has employed unusually cruel tactics in pursuit of undocumented immigrants, most of whom have committed only one crime—illegally seeking refuge in a country that they believed represented the dream of a better life. Those are some of the actions Trump has taken. Here are a few of the things he has said since returning to office: He has referred to immigrants as “garbage”; he has called a female reporter “piggy” and other reporters “ugly,” “stupid,” “terrible,” and “nasty”; he has suggested that the murder of a Saudi journalist by his country’s government was justified; he has labeled a sitting governor “seriously retarded”; he has blamed the murder of Rob Reiner on the director’s anti-Trump politics; he has called the Democrats the party of “evil.”"

 
 
 
TᵢG
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12.1.9  TᵢG  replied to  Freewill @12.1.6    10 months ago

Good start.   Now can that voice actually make it through the Trump firewall?   Can it actually influence the diplomatic efforts?

As I see things, the SoS is not running the State Department but, rather, is doing Trump's bidding (and trying his best to hold things together).   As with all departments, Trump sets the direction, and they just act in a manner that maintains his pleasure.

 
 
 
CB
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12.1.10  CB  replied to  TᵢG @12.1.9    10 months ago

Trump has positioned himself as "godfather" for Vance and Rubio. They will have little to no choice but to be aggressive and attentive to his every word because that is what he COMMANDS of an underling. . . seeking his 'blessing' to succeed him. The most transactional of the two—wins. It's "The Apprentice" on steroids!

 
 
 
CB
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12.1.11  CB  replied to  Freewill @12.1.1    10 months ago
You really think that is what he is doing when it comes to Greenland?  How are those situations even remotely similar? In Venezuela the Administration claimed to be going after a vicious dictator and drug criminal doing great harm to the US and the world. Right or wrong, legal or illegal, that was their excuse.  There is no motive of that nature in Greenland.  I think it is a gross exaggeration to compare those two scenarios and it adds even more to the tension in our relationship with Greenland.

Is there an 'open' threat of military action which Trump will not remove on the White House 'table' of negotiation? How desperate is Trump to have this 'prize' by the Mid-terms. Some talking head stated that 2025 was Trump's year for dealing with domestic takeover, and 2025 he begins making strives to takeover nations. Greenland (and Canada) are hemispheric claims (long a whim of Trump 1st presidency). Now that he has a GOP that is deferring and a SCOTUS that is ushering his political whims. . .can we just say that the 'sky has become the limit'? 

Rubio recently stated, after the 'fall' of Venezuela, how 'Trump is a man of action. . . not like other politicians who talk and talk but do not even do.' (paraphrased.) Well, now "the man of action" is on to Columbia and Greenland. . . using the same 'breath.'  He (will say) has told Greenland and Denmark that Greenland must be sold or exchanged time and time again. . . Greenland and Denmark would be wise to prepare itself for whatever comes. "Experience" is a great teacher about the future!

BTW, remember the 'line' in the Venezuela 'saga' that goes, 'we planned to take down the leader of Venezuela (even built models of the relevant places where actions would occur) for months' (paraphrase) and 'we kept the plan so under wraps that congress (and the world) never knew what was about to hit them. Well, time to let that 'experience' kick-in: What plan and dry-runs are being practiced and already in the process 'get' Greenland away from Denmark?!

Inquiring minds wish to "inquire." 

Remember Rubio: While other presidents talk about acting/actions: Trump does what he says! And guess what? If he does it-whatever it is-as an official act as president he has presidential immunity from prosecution in our country.

 
 

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