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Another Senseless Tragedy - brought to you by the ridiculous notion of an afterlife (aka religion)

  

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Via:  hal-a-lujah  •  10 years ago  •  18 comments

Another Senseless Tragedy - brought to you by the ridiculous notion of an afterlife (aka religion)

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SEATTLE Minutes before a Washington state high school freshman fatally shot four friends and then himself, he sent a group text message to his family outlining his funeral wishes and apologizing to the parents of the teenagers he was about to kill.

"I love you family. I really do. More than anything," Jaylen Fryberg said two minutes before opening fire in the cafeteria of Marysville-Pilchuck High School. "I needed to do this tho... I wasn't happy. And I need my crew with me too. I'm sorry. I love you."

Among the more than 2,200 pages of investigative documents released Tuesday by Snohomish County authorities were emotional interviews with the 15-year-old's classmates, many of whom were just feet away when Fryberg began shooting Oct. 24 during the school's first lunch period.

The report said Fryberg's motive remains unclear, but classmates told police his girlfriend had broken up with him the day before and he had recently been in a fight with a football player over alleged "racial" comments.

Fryberg's father, Raymond Fryberg, has been charged in federal court with illegally possessing the gun used by his son. His trail is set for Sept. 21.

Jaylen Fryberg's uncle, Anthony Hatch, told police he believed the boy was "a happy teenager," and said he and other family members had no idea what he was planning to do.

On Fryberg's cellphone, investigators found a series of messages he sent to several people before the shooting began.

At 10:25 a.m., he sent via Facebook Messenger a photo of a pistol between his legs and asking that an unidentified person call him "before he did 'this thing.'"

At 10:27 a.m., he spoke with a friend for two minutes and then sent a message to his father saying "read the paper on my bed. Dad I love you." Four seconds after that he sent a group text with his funeral plans.

"I want to be fully dressed in Camo in my casket," he said. "I don't want my family to cancel there (sic) trip in December. Put my hat with the S on it on me in my casket. Make sure all of my trust money or whatever goes to my brother.

"Also apologize to Andrews fam and xx fam for me taking them with me. But I needed to ride or dies with me on the other side...Make sure everyone's family goes to grams for dinner.... You guys need to cook all that deer meat gram canned and the meet (sic) that's in the downstairs freezer at our house."

Two minutes after that, the first 911 call came in reporting a mass shooting at the school about 30 miles north of Seattle.

One girl told police Fryberg encouraged his friends to skip class and join him in the cafeteria.

They all sat at a round table near the front door. One classmate told police "Jaylen had a blank stare on his face and stood up and leaned against the wall. He began shooting left to right."

Another student said during the shooting "Jaylen had a really angry face."

Zoe Galasso, 14, died at the scene. Gia Soriano and Shaylee Chuckulnaskit, both 14, and Andrew Fryberg, 15, later died at area hospitals. A 14-year-old survived a gunshot wound to his face. Two other 14-year-old females who were seated at the table were not injured.

Many of the police interviews focused on Fryberg's life before the shooting.

A 15-year-old student told a federal agent that the week before the shooting she heard a student say Fryberg had punched him. The football coach told the student that Fryberg would be suspended from the football team, the notes said.

One student reported he spoke with Fryberg after the fight and the teen said the other player had made a racist comment.

Another student said Fryberg's girlfriend had broken up with him the day before "and thought that may have pushed Fryberg over the edge," the report said.


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Hal A. Lujah
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link   seeder  Hal A. Lujah    10 years ago

"I love you family. I really do. More than anything," Jaylen Fryberg said two minutes before opening fire in the cafeteria of Marysville-Pilchuck High School. "I needed to do this tho... I wasn't happy. And I need my crew with me too. I'm sorry. I love you."

So convinced that there is an afterlife to look forward to, this young man decided that he needed to make sure his friends accompanied him there. What a guy.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   seeder  Hal A. Lujah    10 years ago

Why would anyone need their best friends to be dead? It's clear that he wanted them "on the other side" with him.

Even though this quote doesn't make a whole lot of sense, he does allude to an afterlife.

"Also apologize to Andrews fam and xx fam for me taking them with me. But I needed to ride or dies with me on the other side..."

There's no "other side" if you aren't there to witness it.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   seeder  Hal A. Lujah    10 years ago

Make that two senseless tragedies brought to you by religion:

Youre finally going to be happy in heaven. No more pain, she told him in one message. Its okay to be scared and its normal. I mean, youre about to die.

Spoken by a girl who egged her boyfriend on for an entire week to commit suicide (which he did), in an unrelated cureent events article.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   seeder  Hal A. Lujah    10 years ago
Too bad we can't think for them.
 
 
 
Petey Coober
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link   Petey Coober    10 years ago

I think this would be an example of faulty religious teaching . If he wasn't instructed in the moral violation involved in murder and the need for internal strength in life then his training was very inadequate .

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   seeder  Hal A. Lujah    10 years ago
Once you commit to allowing make believe to be reality, your version of religion can be anything you want it to be. This is evidenced by Westboro Baptist Church exulting the same Bible that every other Christian does.
 
 
 
Petey Coober
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link   Petey Coober    10 years ago

your version of religion can be anything you want it to be.

Not exactly . It takes group agreement .

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   seeder  Hal A. Lujah    10 years ago
A group can be two people, or just one person with mental health issues.
 
 
 
Petey Coober
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link   Petey Coober    10 years ago

Are you makin' this up as you go along ? You are obviously starved for attnetion ...

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   seeder  Hal A. Lujah    10 years ago
I thought that comment would be understandable to you of all people. You obviously have some personal experience when it comes to groups of one.
 
 
 
Petey Coober
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link   Petey Coober    10 years ago

For a group of one I seem to have a following . But I won't bore you with the details . I respect your group of nihilists as the haters that they are .

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   seeder  Hal A. Lujah    10 years ago
No, please - by all means, bore me with the details. I'm sure it's fascinating.
 
 
 
Petey Coober
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link   Petey Coober    10 years ago

I'd rather talk about nihilism as a form of hatred of mankind ...

 
 
 
Petey Coober
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link   Petey Coober    10 years ago

Don't you want to get into your nihilism philosophy ? I'm sure people here would find it riveting ...

BTW would you like to address the Japanese cult of the Penis which is celebrated once per year . It is also a religion of a sort ...

 
 
 
jennilee
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link   jennilee    10 years ago
I know of no religion that would reward you for taking the lives of other people so you can have them with you in the afterlife. Calling this against religion is a bit of a stretch. I do believe in an afterlife, and know that someday we will be reunited with loved ones, but I have never heard that i get to bring them with me.
 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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link   seeder  Hal A. Lujah    10 years ago
No, you don't 'know' that you will be reunited with deceased relatives. Let's see, to date trillions of humans have died, and you think that they're all hanging out somewhere in another realm and having a great time in the afterlife, and that you're going to show up there one day and somehow find what amounts to an electron in a haystack.If people took a minute to evaluate the logistics of an afterlife, they wouldn't be looking forward to it.
 
 

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