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Live Commentary - Georgia Runoff - Tuesday December 6th, 2022

  
By:  JBB  •  Politics  •  2 years ago  •  96 comments

Live Commentary - Georgia Runoff - Tuesday December 6th, 2022
"I will put my resume up against Obama's any day" - Hershel Walker

It is Warnock's to lose, but he will not be beaten easily...original

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JBB
Professor Principal
1  author  JBB    2 years ago

Senator Warnock is already well ahead of Hershel Walker...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1  devangelical  replied to  JBB @1    2 years ago

NBC called the election for warnock about 10:30 EST.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.1  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @1.1    2 years ago

walker throws in the towel...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2  author  JBB    2 years ago

With 33% reporting Warnock leads by over 100,000 votes. 56 to 43%

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
2.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @2    2 years ago

Apparently Sen McConnell was right, candidates matter.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.1  author  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1    2 years ago

More like, Donald Trump's endorsement is political poison...

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3  MrFrost    2 years ago

Walker has to be the worst candidate ever...and people still voted for him...just...wow. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  MrFrost @3    2 years ago
Walker has to be the worst candidate ever...

Fetterman would like a word... Just one..  It'd be a step up.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1.1  author  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1    2 years ago

Except, Fetterman won...

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1    2 years ago

Fetterman would like a word... Just one..  It'd be a step up.

I bet Fetterman isn't talking about werewolves and vampires while writing checks for abortions. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @3.1.1    2 years ago
Except, Fetterman won

I guess if your entire frame of reference is "did my party win?" than sure. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.1.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.2    2 years ago
erman isn't talking about werewolves and vampires while writing checks for abortions. 

Lol. Those things should keep you from being in Senate...  

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.1.5  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.4    2 years ago

Lol. Those things should keep you from being in Senate...  

Agreed! Walker has no business being in congress. Great, FANTASTIC football player but that's his limit. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1.6  author  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.3    2 years ago

Winning makes Fetterman a better candidate than Walker!

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.1.7  Split Personality  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.5    2 years ago

Now he can defend himself legally as three of his charities are under fire

for, like Bannon's wall and Trump Charities, not actually doing the charitable 

works for children and veterans in need.  

Still not ready for Prime Time.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @3.1.6    2 years ago
Winning makes Fetterman a better candidate than Walker!

Winning does not do that. It is another myth.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1.9  author  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.8    2 years ago

So, winning is not better than losing? Fine, keep on losing...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @3.1.9    2 years ago
So, winning is not better than losing? Fine, keep on losing...

Do you not even remember what it is you wrote?

You claimed that winning made Fetterman a better candidate than Walker.

That is false. That is what I addressed.

[deleted] you have just admitted that Trump was a better candidate than Hillary!

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JBB
Professor Principal
3.1.11  author  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.10    2 years ago

Wrong! Hillary was not as good a candidate as Trump but she definitely would have been a way better president. As far as candidates go, winning candidates are the better candidate, but not necessarily the best office holders. Now, do you see?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.12  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @3.1.11    2 years ago
Hillary was not as good a candidate as Trump

Damn, I sure the hell wish I had stated that!

Oh, wait, what's this?

Trump was a better candidate than Hillary!

Thank you for unwittingly admitting it.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.13  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.12    2 years ago

It is obvious that JBB did not unwittingly admit anything.   He stated outright that he believes Trump was a better candidate than Hillary and then went on to explain his position.   And his English was quite clear.  

Endless intellectual dishonesty ...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.14  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.13    2 years ago
Endless intellectual dishonesty ...

fuck off

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
3.1.15  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.14    2 years ago

Be honest.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1.16  author  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.14    2 years ago

Are you having a bad day with the Trump Organization being convicted of seventeen counts of fraud and Walker losing?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.17  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @3.1.16    2 years ago

Why would it be a bad day for me?

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.18  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.15    2 years ago

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.19  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.15    2 years ago
Be honest.

I will start whenever you do.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.1.20  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.15    2 years ago

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did I just read you telling him to be honest?

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Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.1.21  Trout Giggles  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.20    2 years ago

oh c'mon Sandy that was the best part of my comment

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.2  Split Personality  replied to  MrFrost @3    2 years ago

Football is more popular than religion in Georgia.

Since 1892 when Chas Herly started the football program.

Vince Dooley's first National Championship,

Uga the (many) mascots,

Larry Munson the most biased radio announcer of all time

and Herschel Walker, native Son, holder of so many records and a Heisman Trophy winner.

One of the few things Georgians cling to more than the Red & Black Army

is Georgia's long held reputation of the State Government with legendary 

corruption over 200 years, 

They just don't expect much from politicians and political appointees.

Many of them probably feel Herschel's earned an honorary appointment.

Now he's ranting about pronouns in the military...sad.

Either way they will get what they deserve, the question is, will the rest of us?

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.2.1  MrFrost  replied to  Split Personality @3.2    2 years ago
Football is more popular than religion in Georgia.

I had forgotten that part...

Either way they will get what they deserve, the question is, will the rest of us?

Of course not. 

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Participates
3.2.2  pat wilson  replied to  Split Personality @3.2    2 years ago

A day ago he said he didn't know what a pronoun was.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
3.2.3  Split Personality  replied to  pat wilson @3.2.2    2 years ago

Butt he knows what to do if someone misses a period...

/S

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.2.4  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.3    2 years ago

... a check and a get well card.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.2.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @3.2    2 years ago

One of my best friends is a Georgia fan. Don;t mess with her when Georgia is playing.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
3.3  Jack_TX  replied to  MrFrost @3    2 years ago
Walker has to be the worst candidate ever...and people still voted for him...just...wow. 

It's a Georgia thing.

Meet Hank Thompson:

(The fun part starts at about 1:20)

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4  author  JBB    2 years ago

With 62% reporting Walker has pulled into a slight lead 51% the 49%!

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1  Split Personality  replied to  JBB @4    2 years ago

Holding at about a 58,000 lead for Warnock with 99% of the votes tallied.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
5  Split Personality    2 years ago

Fulton county will sandbag this till about 10PM EST

then stretch it out till the wee hours of the morning.

It will probably leave Walker with another concussion.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.1  author  JBB  replied to  Split Personality @5    2 years ago

With 75% reporting Walker's lead has been cut to 50.1% the 49.9%.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
6  sandy-2021492    2 years ago

With 79% of the vote in, Warnock is now in the lead with 50.1% of the vote.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7  JohnRussell    2 years ago

This election is ludicrous. One of the worst senatorial candidates in US history has a chance to win with 85% of the vote in. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @7    2 years ago

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Split Personality
Professor Guide
8  Split Personality    2 years ago

They would vote for Uga if he had a (R) after his name.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
8.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @8    2 years ago

I would vote for that dog over Walker

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
9  GregTx    2 years ago

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JBB
Professor Principal
10  author  JBB    2 years ago

With 83% reporting Warnock now leads by a slim 50.2% to 49.8%...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
11  author  JBB    2 years ago

With 90% of the vote in Warnock lead Walker by 50.2% to 49.8%...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
12  Buzz of the Orient    2 years ago

I'm incredulous that about half the voters in Georgia would vote for a brainless football player to represent them in the Senate.  No wonder I've seen complaints that America's education system has so greatly declined, with so few people able to think critically.  Sports heroes outclass geniuses - no wonder our whole world is turning to shit.  I truly fear for my grandchildren's wellbeing. 

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
12.1  GregTx  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @12    2 years ago
No wonder I've seen complaints that America's education system has so greatly declined, with so few people able to think critically.

Agreed.

I'm incredulous that about half the voters in Georgia would vote for a brainless football player to represent them in the Senate.

Well at least they're being given the choice between a "brainless football player" and a "hypocritical reverend" huh? Some places there might not be a choice....

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
12.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @12.1    2 years ago

It's the absolute choice of Georgians to pick the lesser of two evils

according to their beliefs,

If nothing else this vote proved that Georgians don't find Walker's attitudes

about abortion a deal breaker.

You could say they very narrowly chose common sense over football

barely.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
13  MrFrost    2 years ago

LOOKS like Warnock has it locked up. Most of the out standing ballots are from Dem areas. Ain't over till Sarah Huckabee Sanders sings though. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
13.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  MrFrost @13    2 years ago

dear god no....

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
Masters Expert
14  al Jizzerror    2 years ago

MSNBC just announced the projected winner is Senator Raphael Warnock.

10:23 PM

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
15  JohnRussell    2 years ago

The good news is Warnock is the winner. The bad news is almost half the people in Georgia voted for an idiot. 

This says nothing good about the American people. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
15.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @15    2 years ago

Exactly, it says that our politics is ever more frequently offering unqualified candidates on both tickets. 

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
Masters Expert
15.2  al Jizzerror  replied to  JohnRussell @15    2 years ago
The bad news is almost half the people in Georgia voted for an idiot.

There are lots of idiots in Georgia.

Marjorie Taylor Greene is their queen.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
15.2.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  al Jizzerror @15.2    2 years ago

Marjorie Taylor Greene is their queen.

Maybe of Georgia's 14th congressional district.

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
16  GregTx    2 years ago

Thankfully, Manchin and Sinema have been put in their place by the voters of Georgia.  Wasn't that supposed to be Jim Crow 2.0?

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Participates
16.1  pat wilson  replied to  GregTx @16    2 years ago
Thankfully, Manchin and Sinema have been put in their place by the voters of Georgia

Translation please ?

 
 
 
GregTx
Professor Guide
16.1.1  GregTx  replied to  pat wilson @16.1    2 years ago

What do you mean? Everything seems legible and in english....

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Participates
16.1.2  pat wilson  replied to  GregTx @16.1.1    2 years ago

I get it now, Manchin and Sinema won't have the same influence.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
16.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  pat wilson @16.1.2    2 years ago
I get it now, Manchin and Sinema won't have the same influence.

Democrats will still need either both their votes or votes from Republicans to pass anything.

Not much has actually changed.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
16.1.4  author  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @16.1.3    2 years ago

No, just one of them. Vice President Harris can break ties...

But, the Democratic Senate can still block any gop nonsense the gop House passes without any gop votes in the Senate and even if one Democrat votes with the gop, unlike before!

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
16.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @16.1.3    2 years ago

Sure, but it remains interesting that with the less-than-spectacular performance of the D party and being the party in power for the midterms, that the GoP won only a slim majority in the House and actually went from 50:50 (power-sharing protocol) to 51:49 (minority protocol) in the Senate.

One can only hope that the GoP is collectively waking up from its Trump-induced fantasy.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
16.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @16.1.4    2 years ago
Vice President Harris can break ties...

JUST like she could before. Keep up.

Like I said, nothing much really changed.

If both Manchin and Sinema vote with the GOP, Harris gets no vote.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
16.1.7  author  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @16.1.6    2 years ago

Except, you said that Democrats had to have both votes in your false comment #16.1.3 above. That was absolutely WRONGO! Democrats now only need one of their votes. Before the 2022 midterm elections Democrats needed both, but not anymore!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
16.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @16.1.7    2 years ago

Oh, FFS.

Look, the Senate is now 51-49.

If one of them vote with the GOP, that makes it 50-50, and Harris would break the tie.

JUST LIKE BEFORE.

Get it now?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
16.1.9  author  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @16.1.8    2 years ago

Not True!  2nd grade math proves that prior to the 2022 midterm elections in a 50-50 Senate Democrats needed both Senators Manchin's and Senator Sinema's votes to prevail. But now the Democrats only need one of those two votes in a 51-49 Senate to force VP Harris into casting her tiebreaking vote! Thus once again, your outrageous dishonest wrongheaded bluster has FAILED!

Your comment #16.1.3 was dead wrong and everyone can see it!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
16.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @16.1.9    2 years ago

One day you may see that not much has changed really.

Or not....................

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
16.1.11  author  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @16.1.10    2 years ago

If you ever admit you were wrong when you are proven wrong that would be real change. And, 51 votes versus 49 votes is a two votes margin. Where as, 50 versus 50 was not? Admit It!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
16.1.12  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @16.1.11    2 years ago
51 votes versus 49 votes is a two votes margin.

Yes. Very good. I have not claimed otherwise.

IF you read, I said not much has changed.

If ONE of them vote with the GOP, Harris breaks the tie just like before.

How many times must I write it? 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
16.1.13  author  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @16.1.12    2 years ago

No, before now if either Manafort or Sinema voted with the gop Democrats lost. Now one can defect and Democrats still win because of Harris' tiebreaking vote. This is just MATH!

Your assertions otherwise are still available for all to see ^^^!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
16.1.14  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @16.1.13    2 years ago
No, before now if either Manafort or Sinema voted with the gop Democrats lost

How in the hell did Manafort get to vote in the Senate. I think you meant Manchin

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
16.1.15  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @16.1.13    2 years ago
No, before now if either Manafort or Sinema voted with the gop Democrats lost. Now one can defect and Democrats still win because of Harris' tiebreaking vote. This is just MATH! Your assertions otherwise are still available for all to see ^^^

I am sorry my use of the English language is so confusing for you. I have repeatedly told you what the numbers are and how Harris will STILL break ties just as she has been doing since inauguration. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
16.1.16  Trout Giggles  replied to  JBB @16.1.11    2 years ago

Save your breath. You could make him look at the sky and tell him it's blue but he would call it yellow

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
16.1.17  author  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @16.1.14    2 years ago

Manchin. Is it okay now for me to be pickaune about you?

You knew my intention! Right?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
16.1.18  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @16.1.17    2 years ago
You knew my intention! Right?

Should be evident by my response "I think you meant Manchin".

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
16.1.19  author  JBB  replied to  Trout Giggles @16.1.16    2 years ago

I know and it is not like we all cannot scroll up to comment #16.1.3 and see for ourselves. Can you imagine? Cringy!

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
16.1.20  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @16.1.16    2 years ago

The spirit of Uga?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
16.1.21  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @16.1.20    2 years ago

Which one? I think they're up to Uga 15 now, aren't they?

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Participates
17  pat wilson    2 years ago

256

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
18  Gsquared    2 years ago

Will Walker concede before there's a full moon?

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Participates
18.1  pat wilson  replied to  Gsquared @18    2 years ago

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al Jizzerror
Masters Expert
18.2  al Jizzerror  replied to  Gsquared @18    2 years ago
Will Walker concede before there's a full moon?

512

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
18.2.1  devangelical  replied to  al Jizzerror @18.2    2 years ago

I think god is trying to tell him something...

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
18.2.2  TᵢG  replied to  devangelical @18.2.1    2 years ago

Walker showed the class one should expect from a USA political candidate.    The polar opposite of Trump and his minions.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
18.2.3  author  JBB  replied to  TᵢG @18.2.2    2 years ago

Walker only showed class by conceding. Other than that, not!

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
18.2.4  TᵢG  replied to  JBB @18.2.3    2 years ago

That is what I was talking about.   Give credit where credit is due.

He conceded like an adult and spoke positively of the USA, its system and the people.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
18.2.5  author  JBB  replied to  TᵢG @18.2.4    2 years ago

I agree, Walker showed more grace in losing than in running...

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
Masters Expert
19  al Jizzerror    2 years ago

"I will put my resume up against Obama's any day" - Hershel Walker

Okay.  Here is Hershel Walker's resume:

Hershel Walker - College Football great who did not receive a college degree.  Ran for the Senate butt he lost.

Here is a partial resume for Barack Obama (info from Wikipedia):

Barack Obama - He graduated from Columbia University with a Bachelor of Arts degree in 1983 and a 3.7 GPA.   Despite being offered a full scholarship to Northwestern University School of Law , Obama enrolled at Harvard Law School in the fall of 1988,

He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year, president of the journal in his second year, and research assistant to the constitutional scholar Laurence Tribe while at Harvard for two years. Obama graduated from Harvard Law in 1991 with a Juris Doctor magna cum laude .

In 1991, Obama accepted a two-year position as Visiting Law and Government Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School to work on his first book. He then taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years, first as a lecturer from 1992 to 1996, and then as a senior lecturer from 1996 to 2004.

Obama has published 36 books.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
19.1  Gsquared  replied to  al Jizzerror @19    2 years ago

Add: 

Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate three times.

Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate from Illinois.

Obama was elected President of the United States.  Twice.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
19.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  Gsquared @19.1    2 years ago

yeah but how many yards does Barack have?

/S

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
20  Kavika     2 years ago

Seeing Senator Warnock elected again and also having a Jewish senator is a real change for me. In 1959 I was stationed at Ft. Benning GA, outside of Columbus GA. The klan was still powerful and segregation was the order of the day. One day three of us, A creole, a black, and an Indian went to the USO club in Columbus and we were refused entry and told to go to our own USO club. Everything else, restaurants, schools etc you could kinda see but a USO club was the ultimate insult.

When you are my age seeing what has transpired over the years is a real mind-bender. I look back and also remember that the Trail of Tears started in GA. 

As a kid, there were signs that read, ''No Dogs or Indians'' stores, schools, and restaurants were all segregated for us and that was in a northern state. I went from that to signs in the south that read ''White Only''....It's interesting to realize that I lived that history, probably not something that most alive today can say. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
20.1  CB  replied to  Kavika @20    2 years ago

Tell it. I want to read about it. Because its YOUR truth! I am so glad to 'hear' your heart in this comment. You will always have my support and I will have your back again anybody who tries to go negative about the topic! And no; it don't have to be spectacular or even a multiplicity of violence, degradation, or longings. . . we just need context and reflection on how good it is when diversity and inclusiveness is allowed to flourish and proliferate!

Kavika, you are so right about the greater number of us (here), simply not knowing about some of the 'dirty' that felt so wrong for so long under the guise (pretense) of not knowing any better or national "growing pains." 

Recently, I was stunned (and it was impressed on me) to discover that most of us only see this world through the lens of near or actual generations beyond our own time on this planet. We really need to understand what it is about our world that keeps repeating, because few take the past to heart. . . and listen to what is saying. . . so we can break (all of us -whites included) the 'chains' on our minds and our society!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
20.1.1  CB  replied to  CB @20.1    2 years ago

And it goes without saying, though I will, write about the good memories across racial lines too that make you the Kavika I consider a warm, personable man, today even across great distance!