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Fox News Guest Calls Out Host's Crime 'Fearmongering' | HuffPost Latest News

  
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Fox News Guest Calls Out Host's Crime 'Fearmongering' | HuffPost Latest News
The tense exchange between host Lawrence Jones and academic Jason Nichols came as New Yorkers protested the killing of an unhoused man in a subway car.

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A Fox News guest checked host Lawrence Jones over his "fearmongering" about crime in New York City amid outrage over the killing of an unhoused man on a subway train. (See their exchange below.)

In a Thursday segment on the conservative network, Jones attempted to make the killing of Jordan Neely ― who was choked to death by a Marine veteran on Monday after he had entered a subway car and complained about a lack of food ― about a "crime crisis" in "progressive cities" like New York.

But his guest, University of Maryland senior lecturer Jason Nichols, wasn't having it.

"We have to make sure that we're not out here fearmongering and making people afraid and making them afraid to walk the streets or use the subway," Nichols told the host.

"You are much safer in New York City, which is by the way is the safest big city in the country and the ninth-safest big city in the world, than you are in, say, Bakersfield, California, which is [Republican House Speaker] Kevin McCarthy's district. ... You are far safer in New York state than you are in Oklahoma, which, by the way, its two largest cities are all run by Republicans ― Tulsa and Oklahoma City."

New York City has seen a decrease in reported violent crimes in the first three months of 2023 compared to the same period last year, CBS News reported. This drop includes a decrease in shootings, homicides, burglary and rape, the New York Police Department said.

Crime overall in New York City saw a slight uptick in April 2023 compared to April 2022, according to NYPD statistics, while transit crimes dipped by 6.7% this past month.

Nichols' comments arrived one day after droves of people protested Neely's on-video killing. The 24-year-old Marine veteran, who has not yet been named publicly by the NYPD, was not immediately charged after being questioned by police, but the medical examiner has since ruled the death a homicide.

Nichols later responded to Jones after he asked whether violent crime across the country was "just a figment of imagination."

"Lawrence, no it's not a figment of anyone's imagination," Nichols replied. "But here's the thing: Are we going to go off anecdotes or are we actually going to talk about the work that our law enforcement and others are doing to actually drop crime? And crime is actually going down."


Watch Jason Nichols fact-check Fox News host Lawrence Jones' fear-mongering in real time:
"We have to make sure we're not out here fear-mongering. ... You are far safer in New York state than you are in Oklahoma." pic.twitter.com/xJbYdyJtg3

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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    2 years ago

The right wing has shown blood thirstiness over this incident. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago

Actually it is the left calling for blood of the ex marine.  Please stop making stuff up.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.1  bugsy  replied to  Right Down the Center @1.1    2 years ago

A one hundred percent chance that if the dude the Marine killed was white, we would not hear a peep from any leftist on here, nor would this make national news, much less leftist NY news.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  bugsy @1.1.1    2 years ago

And there sure as hell would have been no protesting. No sense to protest without a chance to virtue signal.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2  Right Down the Center    2 years ago

"We have to make sure that we're not out here fearmongering and making people afraid and making them afraid to walk the streets or use the subway," Nichols told the host.

People are already afraid of riding the subway and walk the streets and it is not due to fear mongering. They know what a shithole NYC has become because they have eyes.   Maybe Jason should leave his school and take a peek at reality.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    2 years ago

The very point of this article is that NYC is not a "shithole". You calling something a shithole does not make it a shithole. Our political right is trying to demonize big city urban life. We do not accept that characterization. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    2 years ago
We do not accept that characterization. 

It is easy not to see if you have blinders on

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    2 years ago

I think most areas where homeless people can harass you on public transportation are shitholes.

The standard seems to be, if everyone isn't killed, than its not a shithole. People get so used to crazy they think its normal. 

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.3  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.2    2 years ago

Shitholes don't have mass-trans/subways.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @2.1.3    2 years ago

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Right Down the Center
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2.1.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.2    2 years ago
People get so used to crazy they think its normal. 

And they wonder why they can't convince everyone else everything is just lovely.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.2    2 years ago

Its more like people like you magnify isolated incidents far beyond any recognizable truth. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    2 years ago

You have no idea what NY is like. It's hardly a "shithole", or have you not heard that we have the lowest crime rate of any large city and that our rents only keep going up, with a lack of supply. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2    2 years ago
You have no idea what NY is like.

And how would you know that?  The subway is a disgrace and there are lots of areas that are not safe to be during the day much less at night.  The tourist areas are not terrible since there is a cop every 10 feet but other than that it is sad.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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2.2.2  afrayedknot  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2    2 years ago

“You have no idea what NY is like…”

The most vibrant city you could possibly imagine. World class architecture, museums, restaurants, entertainment, public spaces…and native NYCers who accept you for who you are. A jewel too often disparaged and too often ignorantly under appreciated. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.2.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.1    2 years ago

Because your fear-mongering isn't anywhere near the truth. I live here and no one fears going down into the subways. Do the math. About 2.4 million people daily travel the subways. Only 25 incidents have happened. You are more likely to be hit by lightning.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.4  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.1    2 years ago

No! When were you last in NYC? 1973?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.7  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @2.2.4    2 years ago

3 weeks ago

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.8  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2.3    2 years ago

You are making too much sense for this crowd. 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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2.2.9  afrayedknot  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.7    2 years ago

How did you ever survive? Along with the millions who somehow negotiate the terror daily? Being driven by an agenda does not a reasonable argument make. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2.3    2 years ago

25 of what incidents?  I rarely go there without being harassed by someone either demanding money(including getting my windshield washed a few dozen times and then getting sworn at if I don't pay), or screamed at about the end of the world.  Maybe watching people take a whiz is what you expect and accept but it is an issue for most civilized people.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  afrayedknot @2.2.9    2 years ago
Being driven by an agenda does not a reasonable argument make. 

I agree, you going to stop doing it because you are trying to downplay the issue?  Why did Adams win?  I seem to recall he wanted to bring law and order back to the rotten apple.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.2.12  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.10    2 years ago

Oh please... I'm in the city all the time, uptown, downtown, and midtown. My daughter lives in Spanish Harlem and walks around there without a care. I'm on the subways all the time, and I think once in the last 3 years did I witness anyone going on the platform. In fact, I've seen it more on the London Tube.

Maybe watching people take a whiz is what you expect and accept but it is an issue for most civilized people.

Nice backhanded insult. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  afrayedknot @2.2.2    2 years ago
World class architecture, museums, restaurants, entertainment, public spaces

You mean where there are a dozen cops per block.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.15  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.13    2 years ago

No

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.2.16  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.14    2 years ago

Here is the live cam....Where are all those cops, bums and people making in the streets?

 
 
 
Veronica
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2.2.17  Veronica  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2.12    2 years ago

I loved it.  I walked everywhere.  My hotel was on 42nd Street at Times Square.  Every morning I would walk around and grab my daughter a latte and muffin - then we would walk to whatever sight we were on for the day.  I sat in the little square near the hotel & people watched as I drank coffee.  It was awesome.  I didn't feel frightened at all & I know I didn't see anyone "whizzing" in public.  I did see that in Florida - public urination & a lot of it.  And a lot of homeless down there.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.18  Right Down the Center  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2.16    2 years ago

Do you really think it is possible to see that on a phone?  Are you trying to say there are no cops near times Square?  I am having dinner at carmines soon, I will take a count

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.2.19  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.18    2 years ago

You just said you were there 3 weeks ago and now you are having dinner at Carmine's?

OK then....

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.20  Right Down the Center  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2.19    2 years ago

Yes. That is what I said. It goes along with my saying I am there often. Although I would rather go to tony dinapoli 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.23  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.22    2 years ago

That is a ridiculous statenenr. You don't have to live there to see what is going on there. 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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2.2.25  afrayedknot  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.14    2 years ago

Please. You haven’t a clue 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.26  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.24    2 years ago

Have a good day.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.27  JBB  replied to  Veronica @2.2.17    2 years ago

Time Square is where tourists and those who prey on them go. Most New Yorkers seldom ever venture there and the police are only there because of the crowds...

I live in The Bronx and hardly see any homeless or panhandling. In the 7 years I lived here I never had a problem with any of the people. In fact, this is a supportive community with friendly people. Pretty Puerto Rican girls call me Poppi. My neighborhood is lined up with Audis and Benz. It's called gentrification and it's real!

The average home in my neighborhood is now about $1,000,000 and still rising...

The cranks spouting 50 year old stereotyes of NYC are laughably outside reality...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.2.28  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @2.2.27    2 years ago

How close are you to Highbridge, Morrisania or Hunts Point?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3  Right Down the Center    2 years ago

are we actually going to talk about the work that our law enforcement and others are doing to actually drop crime? 

Are we going to talk about the DA's that are thwarting all the work law enforcement is doing?  Mayor Adams said "“But we should also agree that we cannot allow a small number of violent individuals to continue terrorizing our neighbors over and over again.”  We going to talk about that Jason?

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4  Ronin2    2 years ago

Fearmongering vs reality.

This is reality.

The city’s beleaguered transit system has already seen people violently shoved from the platform at least 25 times this year, eclipsing the total from last year, sources said on Wednesday.

A total of 22 people have been shoved in the subway system as of Oct. 16 and another three subway attacks have occurred since then, law enforcement sources told The Post.

Last year, the city tallied a grand total of 21 subway shoves as of Oct. 16.

Two of the subway attacks this year have been fatal, including on Oct. 17 when a father of three was knocked onto the subway tracks and fatally struck by a train in Queens.

Arrests for Overall Index Crimes at a 24-Year High

Look at the charts on this link. Sure you are down a very little on murder and rape; but every other crime is much higher. Great job Democrats! Of course this is only for arrests that were made. What about reported crimes that no arrest was made?

Homicides fell last year to their lowest level since 2019, before the pandemic, but other categories of crime, including robbery and burglary, drove the overall increase compared with 2021. Surges in robbery, burglary and other crimes drove a 22 percent increase in overall major crime in New York City last year compared with the year prior, despite a significant drop in shootings and murders.

Democrats do love their criminals. Speaking out against it is not fearmongering.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @4    2 years ago
Surges in robbery, burglary and other crimes drove a 22 percent increase in overall major crime in New York City last year compared with the year prior, despite a significant drop in shootings and murders.

A 22 percent increase in crime does not make a city a shithole. It depends on what the rate was before. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    2 years ago
A 22 percent increase in crime does not make a city a shithole. It depends on what the rate was before. 

It depends on how you define shithole

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ronin2 @4    2 years ago
Democrats do love their criminals. Speaking out against it is not fearmongering.

Facts be damned!  Heaven forbid they admit there is a problem.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.1    2 years ago

What they say are opinions of people that may live there that don't like people saying they live in a shit hole.  I don't fault them for that.  I am there enough to know better. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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4.2.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.2    2 years ago

Funny how many people like to visit, though, which is approx 61 million annually. They must have missed your note about the city.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2.3    2 years ago

Again, there are lots of cops in the specific tourist areas.  Too bad they are often treated like shit.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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4.2.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.4    2 years ago

Again, you are making stuff up. The cops are not treated badly by most people and I just posted the live cam proving you wrong. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2.5    2 years ago

I am pretty sure telling people they are making stuff up is frowned upon here.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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4.2.7  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.6    2 years ago

No calling people liars is. And btw, I didn't write you up for the backhanded insult you gave me.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.8    2 years ago

I am thinking my eyes don't deceive me but you feel free to believe whatever makes you feel better.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.11    2 years ago

Se 2.2.26

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2.13  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.1    2 years ago
You're ignoring all the facts provided by people who actually live in NY city.

So one person is what you consider to be non argumentative facts?

I guess I should take only one person's opinion that Baltimore is not a shit hole, no matter what?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.1    2 years ago

You're ignoring all the facts provided by people who actually live in NY city.

A relative of mine lives in Brooklyn and takes a subway and walks about 6 or so blocks to work in Manhattan.  In addition to the bums, aggressive panhandlers and shit he gets to deal with rats a few times a week. He lives there. Are you going to ignore facts?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.15  Right Down the Center  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2.5    2 years ago

Yea. Cops were treated just fine over the weekend with all the misguided social justice warriors screaming in their face and accusing them of being murderers. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5  Sean Treacy    2 years ago

 unhoused man

Solving problems by euphemism. Orwell in action. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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5.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    2 years ago

Unhoused person = New progressive liberal euphemism for homeless vagrant.

 
 
 
charger 383
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5.1.1  charger 383  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @5.1    2 years ago

fancy term for a bum

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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5.1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  charger 383 @5.1.1    2 years ago

Yep.

 
 

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