'Death in Gaza Is a Taboo Subject in Israel Right Now'
By: Attorney Rakefet Shfaim (Haaretz. com)
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As the number of Palestinian deaths in Gaza climbs to 20,000 while the number of Israeli soldiers killed in fighting grows, it is becoming harder every day for the two sides of the bloody conflict to see the humanity in the other, says Sheren Falah Saab, who is covering the Gazan side of the conflict for Haaretz.
Falah Saab tells Haaretz Weekly host Allison Kaplan Sommer about the difficulties of covering a war when you can't be on the ground, and the individual human stories among the thousands of Gazan victims of the war she has chosen to bring to the world through her journalism.
"In the end, they are human beings and Hamas didn't ask Gazans if they wanted to go to war or not," says Falah Saab, as she discusses the challenges of being an Arab citizen of Israel writing in Hebrew to Israeli readers at a time when speaking of death in Gaza "is taboo." She has personally lost friends on both sides of the conflict.
While Hamas "does really use people as human shields," Falah Saab adds that "on the other hand, the Israeli army says that it targets terrorists, not civilians. But we know that the air force has dropped bombs on places that were declared safe zones - and there's no safe place for people in Gaza." Some of them, she says, have reached such a point of desperation that even when they know their homes will be targeted, they "simply stay there and accept death" instead of fleeing to an overcrowded refugee tent camp.
"They feel they have nothing to lose," she explains. "They have lost their families, their relatives, their work, their normal life. They have nothing to lose, so they just prefer to die in their homes and not to lose their dignity. It's a very complicated situation, and I think people who aren't familiar with the Gaza Strip and the way that people there think can't really understand their decision."
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There's no way to 'explain' the degree of death and destruction in Gaza
Gideon Levy 4-5 minutes 12/27/2023
There is no way to "explain" Israel's conduct in the Gaza Strip. Destruction, killing, starvation and siege in such monstrous dimensions can no longer be explained or justified, even by an effective propaganda machine like Israeli public diplomacy (hasbara).
The evil can no longer be hidden by any propaganda. Even the winning Israeli combo of victimhood, Yiddishkeit, chosen people and Holocaust can no longer blur the picture. The horrifying October 7 events have not been forgotten by anyone, but they cannot justify the spectacles in Gaza. The propagandist who could explain killing 162 infants in one day – a figure reported by social media this week – is yet to be born, not to mention killing some 10,000 children in two months.
Israel is already setting up its updated "Yad Vashem." Hundreds of Jewish functionaries from the United States are being flown by air shuttle to the burnt kibbutzim in the south. Natan Sharansky has also been to Kfar Azza this week, to see and show those antisemites what they did to us.
No official guest will be able to land in Israel from now on without being forced to pass through Kibbutz Be'eri . And afterward if he dares turn his gaze to the Gaza Strip, he will be labeled antisemitic. Wait for Birthright buses with a soldier watching over each one, Czech rifle drawn. They too are already on their way to Nir Oz.
It is very doubtful this will do any good. Hasbara is now an immoral machine. Anyone who makes do with being shocked at what has been done to us while disregarding what we've been doing since has no integrity or conscience. One cannot ignore Gaza and only be shocked by Kfar Azza. Of course it's compulsory to tell and show the world what Hamas did to us. But the story only begins there. It doesn't end there. Not telling its sequel is a despicable act.
Alongside the awful Israeli suffering, which must not be underestimated, the much greater suffering is now in the Gaza Strip. It's enormous in scope and causes despair. It has no explanation, nor does it need one. Suffice it for the reports coming out of Gaza and being broadcast all over the world except in one tiny state , whose eyes are shut and whose heart is sealed.
Palestinians pray over bodies of people killed in Israeli bombardments before burying them in a mass grave in the town of Khan Younis, southern Gaza Strip, last month. Credit: Mohammed Dahman / AP
Israeli hasbara is a deception. It tells a story that isn't the whole truth. By hiding more than half the truth, hasbara should have been seen as a shameful activity. But it isn't. In Israel a preposterous figure like Noa Tishbi has become the heroine of the moment. The fatuous attack on Benny Gantz, who attended a party in her honor in the home of bereaved father Eyal Waldman and was photographed smiling, a glass in one hand and Tishbi in the other, missed the point.
The point is that deceivers are turned into heroes here. Browsing through Tishbi's X account will make you puke. Natalie Dadon , but with Hollywood stardust, new age, hugs, tears and Colgate smiles, kitsch and death straight from the area near the Gazan border. The Jewish nation is the indigenous people in Israel, we're from here, says the woman who migrated away from here. The moment she landed in Ben Gurion Airport she had to run for shelter, filming herself of course to make the heart of every "friend of Israel" tremble and bring them to tears.
And the jewelry, oh the jewelry on Tishbi: two Stars of David, not one, just to make sure; a Chai necklace and a from-the-river-to-the-sea map , all in gold. A quarter of a million followers. Hanukkah is a Zionist holiday. Tel Aviv is a city under attack. "You have to imagine what the Middle East will look like after Hamas is defeated," she tells Piers Morgan of TalkTV.
Want to know what the Middle East will look like? Gaza destroyed to the ground, two million homeless people and opposite them, also scarred and beaten, an apartheid state, which Tishbi hasn't even heard of.
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Israel's deliberate starvation of Gaza's civilian population is a war crime
Michal Feldon 8-10 minutes 12/27/2023
About a week ago, a 7-year-old girl was brought in dead to the pediatric emergency room at Shamir Medical Center in central Israel. She suffered from extreme underweight and her body showed signs of neglect and physical injuries. Her parents were detained by the police for questioning, and every reasonable person who learned about the story was left stunned, angry and speechless.
We live in an affluent society. Even in the context of poverty in Israel, it is very rare for children to experience significant hunger and malnutrition. When we – as pediatricians or as ordinary citizens – come across a situation involving hunger or starvation of a child, we are shocked, mobilize to help and make sure to investigate the issue fully.
We were raised on stories of the Holocaust; about people who stole moldy bread, who tried to assuage their hunger with potato peelings; about mothers who starved, literally, so that their children could eat. We are, after all, a haunted nation, whose DNA contains an existential dread of food shortages and all their implications.
In the Warsaw Ghetto, during World War II itself, one of the most extensive and well-documented studies on the physiological and psychological effects of hunger was conducted by a team of Jewish physicians who were imprisoned in the ghetto, led by Dr. Israel Milejkowski. They were able to demonstrate the significant damage that occurs when caloric intake drops below 500 calories per day (sometimes around 200 calories per day) in children and in adults.
They recorded the cause of death that was secondary to starvation, but also the underweight, the cessation of height growth, the intellectual impairment and the communication problems. The main victims were the children.
Here, for example, is this shocking description, known to every person who was raised and educated in Israel, from the 1946 book "Salamandra" by Ka-Tzetnik (Yehiel De-Nur). The quotation is from the 1977 English edition, "Sunrise over Hell," translated by Dina De-Nur:
"Next to come into the open were the Mussulmen: human beings, no heavier than their bones, with cobwebs for intestines. What distinguished the Mussulmen was his incapacity to feel hunger, or, for that matter, to eat. Hence, any arriviste detected lugging about with him two portions of bread gained immediate recognition as the Mussulman he had become; not by virtue of the sudden inheritance he had come into. As much as for the imminent bequest of it to his fellows. It was sufficient for a Mussulman to allow anything into his guts for it to come running out the other end. The Mussulmen therefore took to the latrine for a habitat, their trousers a slime of excrement, their one hand fiercely clawing at their bread, their other engaged in wiping off the diarrohea [sic]; the eyes, the nose, the mouth, every orifice of the body, all oozing with mucus.
"For speech to register with his brain, the Mussulman had to be addressed repeatedly. Yet no one guarded his bread more closely. To keep vigil over the bread, with the uniquely-Auschwitz instinct of survival, was so deeply rooted in the pre-Mussulman phase of his subconscious mind, that any attempt to steal it immediately alerted him, even though it might be yesterday's bread ration, never to be eaten by himself."
Exactly as in Ka-Tzetnik's graphic description, hunger, poor sanitation, frequent diarrhea, a shortage of clean water bring diseases: "biblical" diseases of the past, that supposedly disappeared from the West such as cholera, dysentery, typhoid fever. Even the names sound anachronistic, as if taken from a brutal story by Dostoevsky and not from our own world.
Here on the home front, at the height of the war, people continue to dine in restaurants, to order lavish deliveries through Wolt; extravagant food packages with branding from celebrity chefs and restaurants are sent to soldiers at the front; soldiers' families are generously dined, if not wined, at the state's expense.
And just over the border, about half of the population of the Gaza Strip suffers from severe or extreme hunger, and that 9 out of 10 households in the northern Gaza Strip had spent at least one full day and night without food .
Israelis first learned about the food shortages in the Strip from hostages who returned. Older women, some of them ill, who described unbearable hunger that reminded them of Holocaust stories. Mothers who put aside a quarter of a pita for the evening to feed their children. It is possible that part of the starvation of the hostages was the result of the unethical conduct and known cruelty of Hamas, and it is also possible that there is simply no food in the Strip. At all.
The blockade and the fighting in Gaza led first of all to a decrease in the supply of electricity and fuel that made it impossible to heat and prepare food or to transport flour and other ingredients UNRWA (UN Relief and Works Agency) reported already in late October that 10 of the 50 bakeries in the Strip which it supplies with flour had been hit in Israeli airstrikes, and that gasoline for vehicles to transport flour to those that remain was running out.
A week later, in early November, the United Nations reported that there are no active bakeries in the northern Gaza Strip. Since the war began, only 2 percent of the normal food supply is getting in due to the tightening of the closure on the Gaza Strip.
On October 22, the UN stated that residents of Gaza began drinking contaminated water due to a shortage of clean water , and only a month later did the first aid delivery of bottled water arrive in the Strip. In mid-November, tens of thousands of new cases of respiratory and diarrheal diseases had already been reported, half of them in children under five. As we know, most of the hospitals in Gaza are no longer operating, and basic medical services are provided in unsanitary field conditions, without adequate access to medicines and medical equipment.
"Humanitarian crisis" is a sterile term to describe an unimaginable human catastrophe that is taking place just around the corner from us, before our eyes and with our knowledge.
Even if it will take years to determine whether the massive bombardment carried out by the Israeli military at the beginning of the war was or was not reasonable during combat, there is no question that 1.8 million internally displaced persons, many of them living in camps, hungry and without clean water, in inadequate sanitary conditions and without access to medical care, are not part of the goals of the war and are not part of reasonable human behavior. The deliberate starvation of civilians during wartime is a war crime.
It is obvious to all of us that the parents of the 7-year-old girl who suffered from severe neglect, caloric starvation and extreme underweight are responsible for her bodily welfare and they must pay the price for her death.
The State of Israel is directly responsible for the humanitarian disaster in the Gaza Strip. As such, it must now allow the introduction of immediate humanitarian aid into the Strip, including food, water, electricity, gasoline, medicine and medical equipment. If it does not, Ka-Tzetnik's graphic descriptions will be on our conscience forever and ever.
Dr. Michal Feldon is a senior pediatrician at Shamir Medical Center.
These three articles are from an ISRAELI newspaper. Yes it is a left leaning paper, but so what?
I want Israel to be safe and to remain on the land where it is right now.
But this idea of "wiping out" Hamas forever was a bad mistake from the start. They should have said they would hunt the perpetrators down to the ends of the earth, like the Jewish people did with the Nazis like Eichmann and the terrorists who committed the Munich Olympic atrocity in 1972.
When Israel began massive bombing the day after Oct 7 it was inevitable that thousands of civilians would be killed. Now it is 21,000 dead Gazans and that seems to be a figure that no one is really disputing.
It's too late for Israel to preserve their reputation as "the good guys". What a tragedy.
Yes, Hamas isn't going away because of Israel and Black September didn't go away, it's members just got reassigned.
That's why there won't be a two state solution anytime soon.
Yes, there are no good guys and bad guys, there are state interest and bad guys and worse guys. A tragedy it is after three wars, three infatadas and now 7 Oct with no Palestinian progress, only death a destruction for a people that have made themselves profesional, intergenerational refugees and terrorists.
Remind us, who fired the first shot in the current conflict? The aggressors have no one to blame but themselves.
I am totally for Hamas leaders and foot soldiers being held accountable, including the killing of all of them that can be killed. Israel did not need to start a massive bombing campaign on Gaza, innocent and guilty, 2 days after the Oct 7 attack, and nothing will change my mind about that. If they had waited until majority world opinion coalesced behind them (which is now a totally lost opportunity) they would be in the same place they are now militarily and without all the condemnation they are getting now for killing children.
Retaliation is a bitch, is it not? Why should Israel wait for "world opinion" when defending itself from an aggressor? That's like saying the US should have waited for "world opinion" before retaliating after the Pearl Harbor attack of 1941. Civilian casualties is an unfortunate reality of war too.
Are you serious? That was never going to happen. The organized demonstrations against Israel started almost immediately. Why is there no condemnation against Hamas for putting all these civilians in harm's way to begin with and killing those that tried to escape?
Although it is neither here nor there, the first US offensive strike after Pearl Harbor was the Doolittle raid 4 months later.
Yep, the same people who tried to blame the IDF for a hospital bombing when they knew they did it themselves.
Despicable animals that must be ended ….
Did we wait on "world opinion" or permission before the raid? Or did we take the initiative to strike back on our own? What about the use of nuclear weapons, which killed hundreds of thousands of civilians?
lol …. Not even close to the same thing.
Are you trying to say that Japan didn't share a border with us? The desperation to defend terrorists and condemn Israel is growing daily.
That’s part of it but the bigger part is that the USA was in a self determined, extended period of isolationism after the war to end all wars. Forget the distance. We were not prepared to immediately retaliate because of that alone. The Doolittle raid was a huge risk and barely put together when it was, let alone sooner.
It’s a horrible comparison.
Any straw isn't to desperate for Antisemites to grasp at.
We have no idea if the dead in Gaza are civilians, terrorists, or Palestinian soldiers. Hamas is going to tell the world that dead terrorists are innocent civilians; the dead can't set the record straight.
Since Hamas has built tunnels, it is necessary to use heavy munitions to try to destroy those tunnels. Knocking down buildings also makes it harder for Hamas and other terror groups to hide their rocket launches. All these sympathetic journalists are ignoring that Israel is still under rocket attack from Gaza. Why don't these journalists embed themselves with the fighters attacking Israel? Why don't these journalists cover a terrorist rocket launch?
Don't believe the press. The reporting being foisted onto the public as some sort of truth doesn't pass the smell test.
Maybe they all died of COVID …..
Hamas (and the compliant, unbiased liberal press) will tell the world that Israel killed them all. There is no other cause of death in Gaza. Hamas can kill thousands of Palestinians opposed to Hamas and blame Israel for their deaths. And the unbiased liberal press will report whatever Hamas wants reported.
Yep, thus my analogy. It tracks …..
it is it is 21,000 dead Gazans and that seems to be a figure that no one is really disputing
the source for that number is hamas. the same hamas controlled “health officials” who immediately claimed an isreali bomb killed 500 people in a hospital. The same organizations that parroted that claim, parrot this one.
Israel is not intentionally killing civilians. Collateral damage is a sad fact in every war. The Palestinians support of Hamas' depraved brutality has brought this punishment upon them.
I wonder out of their death toll, how many are Hamas and Hamas sympathizers.
I've read estimates of up to 80%
Coming from Israelis sources I bet.
Hamas doesn't come close to enjoying 80% popularity in Gaza. Nor does Hamas recruit women and children who are the majority of the dead.
On the Palestinian side, satisfaction with the role of Hamas (72%; 85% in the West Bank and 52% in the Gaza Strip) was the highest followed by the role played by Yehia Sinwar (69%; 81% in the West Bank and 52% in the Gaza Strip), Ismail Haniyyeh (51%; 57% in the West Bank and 43% in the Gaza Strip), Fatah (22%; 23% in the West Bank and 21% in the Gaza Strip), the PA (14%; 10% in the West Bank and 21% in the Gaza Strip), Mahmoud Abbas (11%; 7% in the West Bank and 17% in the Gaza Strip), and Mohammad Shtayyeh (10%; 6% in the West Bank and 16% in the Gaza Strip).
Hamas uses women and children as suicide bombers and soldiers.
LOL. I'll put a lot more credence to Israeli sources than one whose main purpose for Oct 7 was to provoke the result that they knew would gain the sympathy of rest of the world and demonize Israel.
Oh, of course, Hamas doesn't want women and children to join the ranks of their militants, they use them for another purpose.
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The whole world is aware of it, and you're not?
Hamas's targeting of civilians, indiscriminate attacks, taking of hostages and use of human shields are war crimes. Hamas hides its military arsenal and tunnel entrances in schools, homes, hospitals, and mosques. Hamas boobytraps homes, fired rockets from civilian centers, and wears no uniforms. High Palestinian casualties is part of its strategy.
I am sick and tired of people saying it is all Hamas fault that 8000 - 10,000 children have died. Gaza did not have to be wiped off the face of the earth for Israel to get its revenge.
And the idea that they will "end" Hamas and Palestinian resistance by destroying Gaza is wrong thinking.
Israel's position right now is "you made me kill your children". Its not going to work.
Who's "OK" with Hamas? If you say it is wrong to bomb and starve a defenseless civilian population that means you are "ok" with Hamas? [deleted]
What about Union General Sheridan burning the Shenandoah Valley in the Civil War? .
The vast majority of Israelis are sick and tired of their civilians being targeted for 75 years. When you have some skin in the game, I'll want to hear your outrage.
Our Sherman's march to Atlanta and Savannah. Some here see the world as binary, either you're a good guy or a bad guy. War is hell. Lincoln felt that our Civil War was justified because he saw any available alternative to war as worse. I think Israel sees the same.
Would those who support a 2 state solution for Israel liked if that was how the Civil War ended?
Apparently professors and students on our campuses among others.
JR, I was just going to post something to you that could get me a month's forced vacation from NT, but I'll reduce it to saying IT'S A FUCKING DELIBERATE LIE TO SAY IT IS REVENGE. This is not a war of revenge, this is a war to STOP Hamas from attacking Israel over and over again, breaking cease fires over and over again. Unfortunately it isn't a war to end all wars because wars are going to happen all over the world over and over and over again because that's what human beings do, but it is a war to make it damn hard for Hamas to rape and torture and gouge the eyes out and cut open pregnant women and bake live babies in ovens. Got that?
And the United Nations.
Revenge is a normal human emotion , and Israel had a right to some revenge for Oct 7.
Americans wanted revenge for Sep 11th 2001, and could have easily started bombing Afghanistan the next day , as Israel did with Gaza, but didnt. America waited almost a month, and used the time to formulate a plan.
Israel launched an immediate massive attack on Gaza knowing full well that many civilians would die. The timing was based on revenge.
More like geography
No surprise to me that you felt the militants were not given a long enough time to entrench themselves and prepare for Israel's retaliation. In my opinion they waited too long but I also read reports that they warned the civilians. There was even a detailed report about a long phone conversation with a Gazan dentist. How long did Hamas give the civilians to defend themselves or to run on October 7th?
No it wasn’t. Not entirely. It was an attempt to destroy sites used to launch thousands of rockets into Israel to murder innocent Jewish civilians.
" But we know that the air force has dropped bombs on places that were declared safe zones - and there's no safe place for people in Gaza"
Did the Allies declare safe spaces in WWII?
By this logic would FDR, Churchill and the Allied Generals be called War Criminals?
Charger, there is a difference. The allies never warned the people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki and Dresden to leave their homes by means of dropped leaflets and emails and phone calls.
I didn't know that, but then your linked ending does indicate that it was at best problematic as to how good a warning it was. Interesting that Col. Richard Kemp still has indicated that Israel does more to protect civilians than any other nations in the history of warfare.
It is well accepted that those two bombings while horrific in nature, saved lives. On both sides.
Yes, and when Hamas and Islamic Jihad is defeated lives will be saved on both sides as well.
One can only hope for such a result. Not sure it’s possible considering all the hatred involved but one can hope
Is it 20k, 25k 15k what is the number and what does it matter if it's 15k or 25k? Israel confirmed at one point that it was 17k. The number is going to be very high when this is over if they ever actually have an accurate count.
The concentration of people in Gaza and the types of weapons that Israel is using will result in a huge number of deaths and wounded
''One death is a tragedy, one million deaths is a statistic.''
It's been said on this site ''why don't the Palestinians throw out Hamas''. Think about that a heavily armed terrorist organization that will not give up power isn't going to let mostly unarmed Palestinians throw them out of Gaza or anywhere else. There is a reason there haven't been any elections since 2006. It's like telling the Russians to overthrow Putin, the minute they try they are dead.
Israel has chosen a path that will result in tens of thousands of deaths in Gaza, that is their choice and they will have to live with the aftermath of that decision.
The rest of the world can either support their decision or not and this isn't the first time that Israel has been in this position. When they invaded Lebanon and were shelling Beirut for days on end killing thousands of civilians the world rejected it and their biggest supporter the US finally stopped it. Ronald Reagan called Menachem Begen and told him that he was causing a Holocaust with the shelling (using the word Holocaust must have sent Begen through the roof) and to stop the shelling, the hidden message was if Israelis didn't they would lose US support. Israelis cannot survive without the support of the US.
It is estimated that around 48,000 died in that shelling. Begen stopped the shelling then and there.
So now we are in a very similar situation, does the shelling and killing go on or will it be stopped? Israelis will make the decision, yes or no but there are powerful allies that can and probably will intervene at some point.
IMO, the more Palestinian civilians that Israel kills more and more will become terrorists simply leading to more terrorist acts and more wars with no end in sight.
The French didn't overthow the Nazi's but there was resistance. Arab polling reveals a majority Palestinians support Hamas.
What decisions has the rest of the world really made about this over the last 75 years?
After the PLO moved into Lebanon and began staging raids from there.
And Lebanon has thrived since then.
True, as outnumbered as Israel, it would die alone, although with their nukes, they will take many Arabs with them.
Which is all the more reason our money should go to support an apartheid fascist country that doesn't listen to us.
"Support them or they will nuke the middle east".
Never let it be said that this country's foreign policy isn't stuck on stupid.
And Arafat was a billionaire when he died.
Yep, and useful idiots keep on making them richer …
A billionaire with a wife 35 years younger who had to make do with on 1.2 million a year in Paris.
The French resistance was supported by both the US and Brits. Not only is Gaza a tiny spec compared to France who will help Gaza if they had a resistance?
You could answer that yourself but in the context that I was speaking of is either they support the shelling of Gaza or they don't. Simple
I believe that most understand that.
Is your shtick to state the obvious? If so it is at best getting tiring.
Perhaps no one as it seems the EU only wants to send money and other than lip service, the Arab and Egyption community seems sick of the Palestinian problem. By the way, recent polling shows bigger Hamas support on the West Bank than in Gaza.
Not obvious to many here and not as tiring as the Arab population continues to be sacrificed on the altar of despots.
That shouldn't be surprising considering what Israel is doing in backing the ''settlers'' and the PA supporting IDF.
True, many here are oblivious to what is happening in the ME. You're stretching the bounds of reality with the last part of your comment.
I don't support the "settlers" or the current Israeli government, but 75 years of Arab intransigence has led to this.
Exactly, more Arab corruption.
Do you want to discuss the Arab Springs?
Sure, you start and let's also add in the independence wars as well.
Europe never likes to take care of problems they created. What else is new.
Repeat after me. Egypt is not Palestine. Jordan is not Palestine. Syria is not Palestine. Lebanon is not Palestine. Which is the reason none of those countries want any more Palestinian refugees. No matter how hard Israel and some in the US try push those places are really Palestine, the facts will never change.
Now why would that be? Couldn't have anything to do with Israeli unbridled settlement expansion; and settlers and IDF violence against Palestinians while forcing them off their land? Couple with the corrupt PA that is too busy suckling off the Israeli/US money tit; and keeping themselves in power to do anything about it. The West Bank Palestinians capitulated to Israel long ago; but things have only gotten worse for them.
None of the factions involved in this are for the Palestinians. Hezbollah and Hamas are on the Iranian payroll (and would kill each other and the PA if given half the chance); the PA is on the US/Israel payroll- and won't do anything to hurt the money flow (they would love to kill off Hamas and Hezbollah- but Israel keeps them weak and ineffective. Just like their Arab neighbors); and Israel wishes the Palestinians (Druze and others included) would just disappear so they can move in and take over completely in the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem.
Not obvious to many here that some are sick of the US wasting billions of dollars to prop up fascists and weak corrupt governments that will turn on us in a moments notice.