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We asked ChatGPT and Claude to analyze Biden's cognitive abilities based on the Joe Biden-Robert Hur transcript. Their verdict: the president is doing fine.

  
Via:  John Russell  •  9 months ago  •  19 comments


We asked ChatGPT and Claude to analyze Biden's cognitive abilities based on the Joe Biden-Robert Hur transcript. Their verdict: the president is doing fine.
"The interview transcripts reflect that President Biden was able to communicate effectively, recall details from his tenure, and engage in logical reasoning during the interview," ChatGPT wrote. "These aspects are essential indicators of cognitive abilities and suggest that he could perform cognitively demanding tasks during the interview."

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We asked ChatGPT and Claude to judge President Joe Biden's cognition based on talks with Robert Hur.
Special counsel Hur interviewed Biden over his handling of classified documents. 

After analyzing Hur's interview transcript, the AI chatbots said the US president sounded fine.
 
President Joe Biden's cognitive abilities may be better than some say they are — at least according to two AI chatbots.

The 81-year-old's mental acuity has returned to the spotlight after special counsel Robert Hur investigated Biden's handling of classified documents. Hur ultimately recommended in February that no charges be made, in part because the president is an "elderly man with a poor memory" who would elicit sympathy from the jury. One factor that played into the report was Biden forgetting when he was vice president and when his son Beau died.

However, a full transcript of the president's five-hour interview with Hur, which dropped on Tuesday, has raised further questions. Some who analyzed it said Hur's claims about Biden's memory issues were overstated. He seemed to be able to recall the day and month his son Beau died, and recognized his errors when he misstated which years he served as vice president.

 
To get some additional opinions, Business Insider uploaded the transcript into OpenAI's ChatGPT and Anthropic's Claude Pro. Using the same prompts, we asked the AI chatbots to assess Biden's cognitive abilities and age-related issues based on factors like clarity of thought, coherence, language use, memory recall, and "any other relevant indicators present in the text."

These chatbots are run on large language models, or LLMs, computer programs trained on troves of web data that generate human-like responses.

And both chatbots' verdicts were that Biden's cognitive abilities are just fine.

"The interview transcripts reflect that President Biden was able to communicate effectively, recall details from his tenure, and engage in logical reasoning during the interview," ChatGPT wrote. "These aspects are essential indicators of cognitive abilities and suggest that he could perform cognitively demanding tasks during the interview."

 
Claude responded similarly, though noted that age may have something to do with Biden's responses.

"President Biden demonstrates mostly intact cognitive abilities, with clear and coherent thinking, appropriate language use, and the ability to recall relevant information," Claude wrote. "While there are some age-related changes noted, they do not appear to significantly impact his overall cognitive functioning in the context of this interview."

It's important to note that ChatGPT's and Claude's claims should be taken with a grain of salt.

Launched in November 2022, ChatGPT has been found to produce bias and generate factual errors, as do other AI bots. An August study found that ChatGPT generated false information when asked to design cancer treatment plans. In January 2023, tech news outlet CNET was forced to issue corrections after an AI-generated article it published contained multiple inaccuracies. Anthropic launched Claude in March 2023; in a recent article, it said Claude can "occasionally produce responses that are incorrect or misleading."

 
The AI chatbots broke down the reasoning behind their conclusions on the Hur talks.

When it came to Biden's memory, ChatGPT found that he displayed memory recall by describing interactions and processes related to handling classified documents with context. Claude said that was reflected by his ability to provide specific details and anecdotes from his time as vice president.

The chatbots also pointed out Biden's seemingly good verbal reasoning skills. ChatGPT said the president demonstrated his ability to "process information" and "engage in complex discussions" by answering clarifications and follow-up questions. Claude wrote he "generally demonstrates clear and coherent thinking" and can "largely stay on topic" despite occasional tangents.

To summarise, "Based on the transcripts, President Biden shows no significant difficulty in articulating his thoughts, recalling past events, and engaging in detailed discussions on various topics, all of which are aspects of cognitive functioning," ChatGPT wrote. Claude came to a similar conclusion.

 
The chatbots didn't agree on everything, though. When asked to guess the President's age, ChatGPT said it's "not feasible" to guess how old he is based on the transcript alone. Claude, however, correctly answered the question based on previous leaders' careers.

"Considering the average age of US Presidents and the timeline of events referenced in the transcript, it is reasonable to estimate that President Biden is likely in his late 70s or early 80s," Claude concluded.

The President's office didn't immediately respond to a request for comment from BI before publication.

Axel Springer, Business Insider's parent company, has a global deal to allow OpenAI to train its models on its media brands' reporting.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    9 months ago

well well

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
2  Just Jim NC TttH    9 months ago

AI just like computers, shit in, shit out.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2    9 months ago

It seems that what was put "in" was the transcript of his interview with special counsel Robert Hur. What bias do you see in that ?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
3  Greg Jones    9 months ago

The evidence is overwhelming that Biden is not emotionally, morally, or mentally fit to be president. Pumping him full of drugs is not going to change what is wrong with him

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @3    9 months ago

You've got some names confused

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4  seeder  JohnRussell    9 months ago

Will you analyze Donald Trump's cognitive state based on the text of his CPAC speech?

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Donald Trump  delivered a  CPAC speech  that has drawn attention and sparked discussions about his cognitive state. Experts have analyzed his performance, and while opinions vary, some key observations have emerged:

  1. Incoherence : During the speech, Trump exhibited moments of incoherence and disjointed thoughts.  His sentences often lacked clear structure and coherence 1 2 .

  2. Signs of Cognitive Decline : Some experts believe that Trump’s speech showed  clear signs of major cognitive decline These signs include difficulty maintaining a coherent narrative, repetitive statements, and tangential remarks 3 .

  3. MAGA Applause : Despite these concerns, Trump received enthusiastic applause from his supporters at CPAC.  His ability to connect with his base remains strong, even as questions about his mental state persist 1 4 .

In summary, while Trump’s speech raised questions about his cognitive abilities, it’s essential to approach such analyses cautiously. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5  Sean Treacy    9 months ago

Chatbots repeat liberal analysis they find on the web. There’s no there, there.

all this does is reinforce how desperate progressives are to trick people into ignoring their own observations. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    9 months ago

My observations of trump are that he is desperately and dangerously mentally ill.  A lot of the maga who think otherwise have mental issues of their own

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    9 months ago

If Biden is able to "communicate effectively, recall details from his tenure, and engage in logical reasoning," why doesn't he simply answer unscripted questions from independent reporters a few times a week? The perception that he is too old and senile to be President is seriously hurting his campaign and could be easily rebutted by simply interacting with people.  Yet instead of doing that the left pushes "Chat GPT say's he fine!"  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    9 months ago

That's the truth right there.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
6  George    9 months ago

Judge sanctions lawyers for brief written by A.I. with fake citations

The ChatGPT lied and then made up cases to support its lies. Not surprisingly this is where Biden supporters are looking for support for Biden’s mental issues. He’s fucking senile and lacks the mental acuity to perform the task of being president.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
7  George    9 months ago

10,000 fine, ChatGPT makes up cases to support its claims. Like Biden is lucid.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
8  Gsquared    9 months ago

It's interesting that it's usually people who aren't cognitively functioning, like Trump, who spew reactionary propaganda and pretend that Biden has dementia or isn't lucid.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Gsquared @8    9 months ago

What is interesting is that Biden will not take a cognitive test.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
8.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1    9 months ago
interesting is that Biden will not take a cognitive test.

I think the transcript shows exactly why he won't. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
8.2  Ronin2  replied to  Gsquared @8    9 months ago

I find it even more interesting that people with TDS deny that Brandon is just functioning vegetable at this point. Not that Democrats need him for any more than to sign legislation and his handlers EO/EA's that are put in front of him.

Let us know when Trump gets lost trying to find his way out of a room, starts speaking to dead people, or loses his complete train of thought for several minutes.

Mitch McConnell at least had the decency to step down as the Republican lead in the Senate; but not so much decency that he retired. Seems that even he got a slight hint when he had to be led away from interviews during which he went completely blank.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
9  Sparty On    9 months ago

Biden regularly fails the eye test.    For any with theirs eyes open that is.

This should validate any concerns folks have of accuracy for platforms like Chatbot.

Bigly!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
10  Sean Treacy    9 months ago

An example of Biden being unable to answer a simple question.  If you've ever known an old man slipping into dementia, this is how simple conversations go:

I’ll confine myself to one typical example, although many could be cited. On page 55 of the transcript, Hur asks Biden in what workspaces he kept documents at the vice president’s residence (the Naval Observatory); Biden’s response runs seven pages — although it was not a sensible response to the very simple question asked.

The president began by recounting that “I was the guy who wrote the Violence Against Women Act”; that agriculture is “a $4 billion industry in Delaware and the Delmarva peninsula”; that in a law-school torts class he was applauded for speaking ten minutes about a case he had not read; that “to make a long story short” he got a job out of law school at a firm in Delaware; and that “to make a long story not quite so long” he participated in a case while he was waiting for his bar results involving “this poor kid [who was] down a hundred-foot vessel, chimney, scraping the hydrogen bubbles off of the inside” but “was wearing the wrong pants, wrong jeans, and he —a spark caught fire and got caught in the containment vessel and he lost part of his penis and one of his testicles and he was 23 years old.” The senior partner told Biden to write a memo supporting a motion to dismiss the case, “and son of a bitch, it prevailed,” whereupon Biden thought “son of a bitch I’m in the wrong business, I’m not made for this.”

Thereupon, the senior partner invited him to go to the Wilmington Club, where “no blacks, Catholics are allowed — have been allowed to be members. The DuPont family name.” (Biden elsewhere in the seven pages repeatedly refers to the DuPont family, whom he describes as “Rockefeller Republicans” highly influential in Delaware.) Biden recalled being so taken aback by the Wilmington Club invitation that, in “the only time I ever lied that I can remember looking somebody in the eye,” he made up a story that his father was coming to visit that day. Then he immediately walked through “the basement on a public building and walked in with a guy named Frank and I said I want a job as a public defender.” This began “what got me — I had been involved in the civil-rights movement. That got me deeply involved in trying to reform the Democratic Party, which was a southern Democratic Party. We were a slave state by law.”

“And the whole point of telling you all this,” he continued, “is that I had a lot of material that I kept notes on” about the Democratic Party. And at that point, when he was 26 or 27 years old, Biden elaborated, “I went to work part time for a criminal-defense firm mainly, a real estate — there were five people. And so I was no longer a public defender. . . .” Then “one thing led to another” and Biden joined a group seeking to reform the Democratic Party. Even though he was young, they wanted him to run for the state senate. But he wanted to start his own law firm instead. “So to make a long story short,” he ended up running for county council, but “wanted to be sure that I was going to lose,” so he ran in a district that no Democrat had ever won. “And I won it. And next thing you know, I’m in a tough position. My generic point was that there was a lot of material that I had amassed that I wanted to save. I probably still have it somewhere. And so that stuff would travel wherever the hell I was.”

At that point, mercifully, Hur interjected, “trying to steer us back to the end of your vice presidency.”

To repeat, what I’ve outlined above comes from a single, uninterrupted, utterly non-responsive answer to a question about where Biden kept documents while living in the Naval Observatory circa 2016.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
Professor Guide
11  Robert in Ohio    9 months ago

The fact that "non living" things think Joe Biden "sounds just fine" shuld be concerning to any sane person.

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