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ELON MUSK IS STUPID AND SO IS HIS FAVORITE NEW CONSPIRACY THEORY

  
Via:  John Russell  •  8 months ago  •  27 comments


ELON MUSK IS STUPID AND SO IS HIS FAVORITE NEW CONSPIRACY THEORY
And yet the nefarious scheme is always presented as something that's about to happen -- and the idiots who believe it never ask, Why hasn't it happened already? The conspiracy theory Musk is promoting works pretty much the same way. Counting non-citizens in the census? That's been done in literally every census since the first one in 1790.

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Greg Sargent   reports :



Is it really "strikingly crafted" propaganda? The video   looks   slick, in all the most obvious, clichéd ways, but if you believe what it's saying, you're as dumb as a rock.






The video purports to   describe   a "Democrat" plan to achieve "single-party rule":
... flood the country with untold millions of illegals by land, sea, and air from all over the world — enough to eclipse the populations of 36 individual U.S. states, so far.

... keep them in the country at all costs, even when they commit violent crime like murder and rape. Attack the language used to describe the criminals, as opposed to the criminals themselves. Slander critics as racist.

... count the non-citizens in the census that will determine congressional apportionment in the House of Representatives — as of now, that would equal thirteen extra congressional districts; a tremendous amount of electoral power.

... wage a massive, heavily funded lawfare campaign to change state voting laws that legalize mass mail-in ballots, no signature verification, and no proof of citizenship requirements — making it nearly impossible to prove voter fraud.

... lock in the permanent voting majority with campaign promises of lavish benefits and permanent privileges, enshrining generational fealty to the Democrat party.

Okay, let's discuss this.

You know how Republican conspiratorialists say, after every mass shooting, that it's a false flag designed to allow Democrats to go door to door and take everyone's guns? Notice how they've been saying that for years and years, and yet   no Democratic president has taken everyone's guns?   Not Bill Clinton, who had eight years to do it, or Barack Obama, who also had eight years, or Joe Biden, who's had three years and counting? And yet the nefarious scheme is always presented as something that's   about   to happen -- and the idiots who believe it never ask,   Why hasn't it happened already?

The conspiracy theory Musk is promoting works pretty much the same way. Counting non-citizens in the census? That's been done in   literally every census since the first one in 1790 .
In the nation’s early history, a substantial share of the population had migrated from other countries, and for many decades thereafter, some states actively recruited foreigners to provide labor and boost political representation. The framers of the Constitution elected to exclude some people from being counted — specifying “Indians not taxed” and, most notoriously, deciding to count someone who was enslaved as three-fifths of a person — but left noncitizens intact. The drafters of the 14th Amendment debated whether to count all immigrants for apportionment purposes, and elected in the end to do so.

Sanctuary cities? They've been around   since the 1980s . Mail and early voting? That's also been on the rise   since the late twentieth century , though there was a decline in 2022 after a peak in 2020.

In other words, for quite a while the elements have been in place for the evil Democrat Party to achieve single-party rule -- and yet Republicans have won half the presidential elections in this century;   Republicans have controlled   the House for 16 of the 24 years in this century, and the Senate for the same amount of time;   Republicans control   28 of 50 state legislatures; and there are   27 Republican governors . And, of course, the Supreme Court has a 6-3 Republican supermajority.

You'll say,   But this is a new evil Democrat plan . Except that it's not so new, if we believe Donald Trump. In 2017 --   after he won the presidency the previous November   -- Trump   claimed   that he'd actually won California (a state he   lost by nearly 4 million votes ) because non-citizens illegally threw the election to Hillary Clinton.

And even if you think the elements of the plot weren't fully in place until 2020, why did Democrats lose the House in 2022? Specifically, why did they   lose two seats in California   and   four seats in New York   (including one to George Santos!), despite the fact that California and New York are full of immigrants? Winning those seats would have given Democrats a House majority, but the scheme to ensure permanent single-party Democratic rule diddn't even work in these two liberal states.

But Republican propagandsists will use this conspiracy theory to explain every loss they have in a competitive election (and ignore it every time they win a close one). They'll always say that the ultimate deployment of the Democrats' immigrant voter army is in the future. They'll just pretend it doesn't matter that single-party Democratic rule never arrives, just the way they ignore the fact that mass gun confiscation never arrives. And Elon Musk and millions of others who've contracted brain worms from the right-wing media won't even notice that their day of doom never arrives.












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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    8 months ago
Republican propagandsists will use this conspiracy theory to explain every loss they have in a competitive election (and ignore it every time they win a close one). They'll always say that the ultimate deployment of the Democrats' immigrant voter army is in the future. They'll just pretend it doesn't matter that single-party Democratic rule never arrives, just the way they ignore the fact that mass gun confiscation never arrives. And Elon Musk and millions of others who've contracted brain worms from the right-wing media won't even notice that their day of doom never arrives.
 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @1    8 months ago

These scumbags just live on spreading fear, fear of the other, fear of something that never actually arrives.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @1.1    8 months ago

Some on the left need to look in the mirror if they want to see fear mongering.

Yep, a long hard long is in order for those folks

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Sparty On @1.1.1    8 months ago

The projection is fucking palpable.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
1.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    8 months ago

Yes it is which I wish my friends on the left would just stop with that infantile bullshit.    I mean c’mon man!

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2  Sparty On    8 months ago

A bunch of gaslighting garbage that only useful idiots will buy.

The gun topic is a good example of this horseshit.    The only thing stopping Democrats from taking guns is Independent and Republican control over the years in the house and Senate.    In general, the left is not pro gun ownership.    Period.    Everyone knows that and no amount of gaslite bullshit will change that reality    

But i agree, that one party control will never happen either way.    Regular Americans will never go for it.    It would be civil war.

 
 
 
fineline
Freshman Silent
2.1  fineline  replied to  Sparty On @2    8 months ago

"gun topic is a good example" . Republicans were in charge when bag "o" shit Reagan banned assault rifles in response to dumb-ass Hinckley shooting him with to small a caliber handgun . Should have used a .44 mag. !  That incident gave us the Brady Bill !  Time for your plexotomy . And we should not forget moronic "W" Bush that ended the assault rifle ban and started the first war of the new millennium with his lies about WMD in Iraq and Axis of Evil bullshit ! His war on terrorism will never end , THANKS GOP ! 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  fineline @2.1    8 months ago
gun topic is a good example

Nah, as noted, it’s still a bullshit example.

Republicans were in charge when bag "o" shit Reagan banned assault rifles in response to dumb-ass Hinckley shooting him with to small a caliber handgun .

Work on your revisionist history.    That was passed by congress and Clinton in 94.    Not by Reagan.    And it did little to reduce gun violence.    That much is as well known as Clinton’s signing it into law.

Should have used a .44 mag. !  That incident gave us the Brady Bill !  Time for your plexotomy .

The assault weapons ban did little to reduce gun violence since any thinking person knows handgun violence is by far the largest part of the problem and within that problem gang violence is the issue.    Just more dumbass feel good liberal legislation that accomplishes little but makes some leftist pillow biters feel better about the world but accomplishes little of substance.

And we should not forget moronic "W" Bush that ended the assault rifle ban and started the first war of the new millennium with his lies about WMD in Iraq and Axis of Evil bullshit ! His war on terrorism will never end , THANKS GOP ! 

Once again I need to remind my friends on the left that 8-10 years of the war on terror were prosecuted by Democrat presidents.   So holier than thou proclamations about the GOP ring false just like most triggered leftist nonsense.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sparty On @2.1.1    8 months ago
   That was passed by congress and Clinton in 94.    Not by Reagan.

Doesn't matter.  Facts are irrelevant  to many progressives. .  

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  fineline @2.1    8 months ago
Republicans were in charge when bag "o" shit Reagan banned assault rifles in response to dumb-ass Hinckley shooting him with to small a caliber handgun .

WTF, Clinton signed that bill in 1994 that was delivered to him from a Dem majority in the House and the Senate.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  fineline @2.1    8 months ago
 started the first war of the new millennium with his lies about WMD in Iraq

"Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade and much of his nation's wealth not on providing for the Iraqi people but on developing nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them." President Clinton (State of the Union Address), Jan. 27, 1998

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3  Ed-NavDoc    8 months ago

Greg Sargent is a hard core leftist liberal journalist writing for WAPO and the New Republic among others. New Republic is about as far left on the media bias charts as it is possible to get! Not exactly a fair minded reporting journalist that can be taken seriously other than by the hard core liberal left.

 
 
 
fineline
Freshman Silent
3.1  fineline  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3    8 months ago

So?[]  

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
3.2  Sparty On  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3    8 months ago

They eat his stuff with a spoon.    Full of hate and derangement is right in their wheelhouse.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.2.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Sparty On @3.2    8 months ago

Yep.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
4  Gsquared    8 months ago

I love seeing how easily triggered the right wingers are whenever we make fun of one of their heroes.  They start screaming about TDS and "full of hate and derangement".  It really is amusing.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.1  JBB  replied to  Gsquared @4    8 months ago

original

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @4.1    8 months ago

800

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
4.1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.1    8 months ago

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Gsquared
Professor Principal
4.1.3  Gsquared  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.1    8 months ago

How completely unoriginal.  You're probably too young to remember the joke about Bob Dole and Bill Clinton from the 1996 presidential campaign:

Bob Dole was invited to be interviewed on MTV, much as Bill Clinton
was four years ago.  They asked him the same question they had asked Clinton: 
"Do you wear boxers or briefs?" Dole's response: "Depends ... "
 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  Gsquared @4.1.3    8 months ago
How completely unoriginal.

Aw well ….  opinions do vary.

You're probably too young to remember the joke about Bob Dole and Bill Clinton from the 1996 presidential campaign:

Yes, I remember that folklore.    I also remember it’s extension that pushed Dole was too old for POTUS simply because of that comment.

My how things have changed …..

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
4.1.5  Gsquared  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.4    8 months ago
opinions do vary

Sometimes they do, but as regards the meme in your comment 4.1.1, the lack of originality is a provable fact.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.1.6  Sparty On  replied to  Gsquared @4.1.5    8 months ago
Sometimes they do

Oh yeah they do. And regularly. Especially in this place.[]

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @4    8 months ago

The projection!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
4.2.1  Gsquared  replied to  Tessylo @4.2    8 months ago

I call it Twitching Sphincter Syndrome.  Some of them have got it bad.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
6  Ed-NavDoc    8 months ago

 Musk is one of the richest people on Earth. People do not get to be as wealthy as Musk by being stupid. Anybody that thinks otherwise is severely misguided, highly jealous, or both.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
6.1  Sparty On  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @6    8 months ago

Yes, it’s both.    Heavy on the jealousy for many of our friends on the left.

 
 

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