GOP Gov. Who Says Trump Played A Role In Insurrection Says We Need Him As Pres. To Effect Cultural Change
New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu appeared on This Week on ABC today.
During the interview George Stephanopoulos repeatedly asked him why he is supporting Trump considering that Sununu previously has said that Trump played a role in the Jan 6 2021 insurrection.
Sununu dodged the question as best he could, but eventually had to answer it. He claims that Trump is the only choice because Americans want cultural change. He didnt completely specify what that means but it includes wokeism, and anti-semitism from the left, and general "elitism".
As Stephanopoulos kept asking him why he supported Trump , he kept saying "it's not me, 51% of the American people do".
So, that means 49% of the American people are not demanding Trump led "cultural change". That would appear to be a quite sizable minority. This points to the emptiness of the Sununu/GOP claim. A demand for change by 51% of the population is not a mandate, it is not even much of a consensus.
Let's stipulate that America is evenly split on Sununu's rationale for supporting Trump. On what possible basis does that make a habitual lying narcissist maniac the logical choice for president?
Republicans and conservatives are not "America" all by themselves. There is a broad spectrum of ideologies that contribute to the political discourse. There is a far more compelling case for keeping Trump nowhere near the presidency than there is for putting him back in because 51% of the people want cultural change.
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ABC host George Stephanopoulos grilled New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu (R) for supporting Donald Trump after attacking him during the primaries.
During a Sunday interview on ABC’s This Week program, Stephanopoulos asked Sununu if he would support Trump even if he is convicted in a criminal trial. While supporting Nikki Haley earlier, Sununu had said Trump should drop out if convicted.
“This morning, history being made, tomorrow that criminal trial, will your support for Donald Trump continue even if he’s convicted in Manhattan?” the ABC host asked.
“Yeah, look, this trial is not going to have major political ramifications that a lot of people I think think it may have,” Sununu scoffed. “When it comes to these issues, people see it more as reality TV at this point.”
“Well, yeah, you’re going to politics, though I’m asking you about right and wrong,” Stephanopoulos pointed out. “You’re comfortable with the idea of supporting someone who’s convicted of a federal crime as president?”
“Well, I don’t — I don’t think any American is comfortable with any of this,” Sununu replied. “But I mean, when it comes to actually looking at each of these trials as they kind of take place, whether it’s this year or next year, as they kind of line up the right now, this is about an election.”
“Look, nobody should be shocked that the Republican governor supporting the Republican president,” the governor added.
“You said, it is clear that President Trump’s rhetoric and actions contributed to the insurrection,” Stephanopoulos pressed.
Sununu said he stood by his statement about Jan. 6.
“His actions absolutely contributed to that,” he admitted. “There’s no question about that. I hate the election denialism of 2020. Nobody wants to be talking about that in 2024. I think all of that was absolutely terrible.”
“But wait a second right there,” the ABC host interrupted. “Your words were very, very clear on January 11th, 2021. You said that President Trump’s rhetoric and actions contributed to the insurrection.”
“That doesn’t make any sense to me, Governor,” Stephanopoulos observed. “I’m sorry. You’re saying it’s not about Trump. You’re saying he would be the president. And you’ve said he’s someone who’s contributed to an insurrection.”
“I understand it doesn’t make sense to you, George, but look at the polls,” Sununu responded. “What you’re telling me is you don’t understand why 51% of this country is supporting Donald Trump.”
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Sununu's argument is irrational. He thinks it does not matter how outrageously bad a candidate is for the nation as long as that candidate garners sufficient votes.
That is not leadership, it is pure political pandering.
Big disappointment.
He can’t run for governor again and his job interview (s)sucked so what does a wannabe do? Well of course he sticks his nose up walking eagles ass and begs for an appointment in the Walking Eagle admin.
Did you used to float him as a potential presidential candidate?
Yes, he was my favorite. Anyone who would support Trump is excluded from my consideration.
Sununu is an invertebrate...
Another spineless republican. Those who possess them are a rarity nowadays.
Before we do culture change in the federal government:
A lot of people bitch about the government. A lot of people have ideas about how to "fix" government. A lot of people also make poor life decisions. One thing I am sure of is that I would not want Trump determining the direction of this "culture change" when we have seen the content of his character.
Forget cultural change, most rational and normal Americans do not like the direction that Biden and his far-left progressive handlers are attempting to take this country. It won't amount to a blowout, but I expect Trump to win both the electoral and popular votes this time around. The Republicans should be able to hang on to the House by a few votes, and are very likely to take back the Senate.
The Democrats have shown repeatedly over the last few years that the character of politicians doesn't matter all the much, just delivering the goods and staying in power are all they seem to care about.
It is amazing that you write this and apparently have no recognition that this is exactly the key problem with the GOP today. Greg, the GOP is nominating a vindictive, narcissistic, dishonest scoundrel who is the only PotUS in US history to try to steal a US presidential election with coercion, fraud, lying, and incitement. He is entirely untrustworthy and demonstrably will throw the CotUS and the nation itself under the bus merely to spare his fragile ego.
In a comment focused on character, to direct your criticism at Biden while ignoring the modern epitome of outrageously poor character — Trump — is truly amazing. How could you possibly not see the profound difference ... the abysmal character of Trump?
The GOP continues to be its own worst enemy. And that is not good for the nation.
i think greg's mind is made up
"The GOP continues to be it's own worst enemy. And that is not good for the nation."
While I actually agree with you on that, do you seriously believe the same is not just as true for the liberal Democrats as well?
That the democrats are struggling to beat Donald trump is all the proof you need of that,
I have stated on numerous occasions that the D party has failed to take advantage of a great opportunity. They could have easily won the White House with another candidate. They are, after all, running against a vindictive, narcissistic scoundrel who should never be anywhere near a position of power.
But when I rationally compare the failures of the parties in 2024, there is no comparison between the wholesale failure of the GOP basically selling out to the sickening demagogue Trump and the failure of the D party to push Biden into retirement.
When in our history has a political party nominated a known traitor and scoundrel like Trump?? Has it ever happened? Andrew Jackson is the most likely name and he is not even close. And will this party also be the first to nominate a felon? If Trump is convicted, I bet you they will.
What has happened to the GOP? Can you imagine what Reagan would say? Eisenhower? Lincoln?
I would say Aaron Burr, but I think he had already been ousted as vice president and was tried for treason after.
Probably the best answer one can give.
However.
Burr's nomination was done when his reputation was still good. Very good, in fact. Years after the end of his term (he was not ousted from the VP slot) he was tried for treason in 1807 for trying to create an independent nation.
Maybe if he was nominated after 1807 (after killing Hamilton and after his treason trial) he would be an example similar to Trump. But as it stands, the GOP appears to be making history with Trump given all that is known about him prior to his nomination.
Your overwrought and blindly biased opinions about Trump are noted. and discarded.
It's sad you won't admit that Biden is destroying our country, our democracy, and our way of life.
Yeah, those obnoxious facts are very inconvenient ... they mess up the carefully protected confirmation bias and cause cognitive dissonance.
Why the hell would anyone say that when it's not true and that it is your former 'president' who is guilty of those things.
The projection is palpable.
You obviously have a very poor opinion of the American people.
And you fail to understand the mood of the country, and a growing majority of its citizens.
And yet, Donald Trump has never ever polled above 50% nationally and has never ever won a majority vote in any general election...
So, there is that!
Mmmm, has Biden?...
... are definitely swinging more and more against Trump and MAGAism.
lol, which is exactly what I did as soon as I saw this projection
These people need to stop pretending they stand on some kind of moral high ground. We have several examples now of people acknowledging the wrongness of Trump’s words and actions, and then going on to say that it doesn’t matter.
And that’s fine. If you want a piece of shit like Trump to be president in spite of admitting to his atrocious nature, then, by all means, campaign your little heart out. But don’t simultaneously try to tell the rest of us that morality matters to you, because it clearly does not.
This is where he descends into bullshit. The Republican Party does not prioritize individual rights or parents' rights. I am not really sure of the states rights either. If the Republican Party did prioritize individual rights, the LGBTQ issue would not be an issue at all. Likewise with the parents rights. They would not be trying to roll back the progress of the past couple of decades with their culture war dramatization. The Republican party is for the removal of personal rights from some individuals and parents. Try as they might, there is no way to pose their actions except with the Animal Farm quote:
Yeah, that's what we see...
If it really were about rights and policies and so on, they had a handful of less obnoxious candidates who would have done all that. DeSantis, Haley, Christie, etc. But rather than support any of those more competent, less morally bankrupt candidates, they chose to go with the guy who regularly cheats on his wife and is facing a few dozen felony charges.
If there were no option but Trump, then I could see the “hold your nose and vote” argument. But they did not have to stick with him.
About time
Less obnoxious? Yes, they are, some more than others. Still oriented towards selectively taking rights away? Also yes. That is the policy that Republicans are pushing, especially in the state and local governments.
For emphasis, since this has been my main theme regarding the GOP since Jan 21, 2021.
Trump is Trump. Lying, cheating, and bullying have long been his MO. The Republican mantra has long been to keep rights from certain groups because it has been a reliable vote-getting mechanism. When MAGA came along it co-opted the Republican Party mechanics. Now MAGA has re-invented the Republican Party in its own image and installed "faithful" people in positions of power. So the whole party is now Republican in name only. We can watch as the old GOP leaves because there is "no room" for them under the shrinking Big Tent. Think January 6th was a peaceful protest? No? There is no room for you. Think Biden stole the election? Yes? You are in!
It keeps getting worse and the old party faithful have stuck to their guns while the party, the Trumps' GOP, has marched steadily rightward.
Totally. But we can’t even get to the policy debate because we’re too busy being distracted by a maniac.
Funny that when I hear the left talk about promoting parent's rights, a certain county school board in Virginia comes to mind.
Morality left the house a loonnnggg time ago.
The republican house fer sure.
"On what possible basis does that make a habitual lying narcissist maniac the logical choice for president?" .
When the alternative is seen as worse for the country.
Why do you think Biden is worse for the nation than Trump?
Why do you think Biden is better for the nation?
What is your reasoning for that remark?
I asked a question and you simply ask the inverse of me. Worse, I have probably compared Trump to Biden over a hundred times by now. I do not believe for a second that you missed every single one of my answers.
Probably the same reasons as most citizens, immigration and the economy.....nor do I think you've missed mine. Suck it up buttercup, the answers don't change till the problems do.
A simplistic comparison that entirely ignores all the known negatives of Trump.
In your opinion.
Because he doesn't want absolute immunity..
Are you sure?..
And?... Are you unable to answer?
Yes
Why do you think my response was what I thought and not just an answer to the question in general? If a person thinks Trump is still better for the country even after taking all his baggage into consideration that is a possible basis for making him a logical choice.
Conducting yourself as a traitor is not mere "baggage".
Good question. It certainly can not be Joes coherency
Of course it is.
LOL
All these words to yet again deflect instead of answering a simple question.
The question is disingenuous. Why answer a question whose premise is incorrect?
By this reply, you do not think Biden is worse for the nation than Trump.
refusal to answer, states much,
unless questions posed, as they example often are not worthy, for the amount of shit shoveled, can not be explained, unless by that of a cult member, with whom logic and reason have faded out of season, as they back the one who would use treason, as he betrays a nation , a nation with so many thinking minds off, on vacation, as this Trump Duration has proven beyond occasional, and so persuasion ALL, of his followers inconclusion ALL, have proven quite delusion ALL, and since they've proven for themselves unable to think clear, we will be fortunate to get out of here, and that is stunning
I am thinking of a number between 0 and 10. What is it?
12
stated cause it DOZEN matter the reply when conversing with so many
lost
Sorry to hear it
That's what I thought.
Trolling
Sununu is Half-a-MAGA. Half-a-MAGA too much!
‘Humiliating Interview!’ Gov. Sununu Gets Destroyed on Social Media Following Viral Clash With Stephanopoulos
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New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu (R) faced criticism on social media after George Stephanopoulos confronted the former Nikki Haley -backer over newfound support of former President Donald Trump .
During a Sunday interview on ABC’s This Week , Stephanopoulos asked Sununu how he could support Trump as the Republican nominee despite the governor previously saying he believed Trump “contributed to an insurrection.” During the GOP primary, Sununu demanded the party move past Trump and support Nikki Haley .
Sununu also said he now does not believe Trump should drop out of the general election race if he is convicted in the classified documents case — which is also a reversal from a prior stance.
“Drop out after being the nominee?” Sununu told Stephanopoulos. “Of course not. You know that. That’s that’s not to be expected at all. All of these cases, by the way, the average American, it’s all conflated, right? We watch the stuff, we watch the details. The average American sees it more as reality TV.”
Critics on social media bashed Sununu over the viral interview — in which he seemed to pull a full 180 from his previous positions about Trump.
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This is fucking insanity. What the hell is wrong with people?
How did we get to a point where nothing – not even attempting to overthrow our government – disqualifies someone for office? t.co
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Because that is not what happened. There was no insurrection planned or attempted....just a few hours delay to a ceremonial function.
The American people simply are not buying this insurrection or overthrowing the government bullshit.
Yeah, Reagan is laughing at you as well
cause too many are too ignorant does not a convincing argument make
The world is laughing at King Maga and all his magats.
Sununu has sunk as low as you can go. From here on his opinion about anything is totally discredited.
I agree (and I never valued his opinion much to start). . .what is interesting is Nikki Haley PROMISED she was 'nowhere near the end of her race (fight) against Trump'. . . she was going all the way to the end of the primaries. . .and then she folded within a matter of hours or days after her last 'effort.' She was playing the politician (lying) game too. However, didn't she know that her fellow politicians and Trump supporters knew she was bluffing?
Neither did I.
The idea that Trump could effect a positive cultural change is ludicrous