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Should A Historically Illiterate Person Be President Of The United States ?

  
By:  John Russell  •  5 months ago  •  26 comments


Should A Historically Illiterate Person Be President Of The United States ?
And Trump said, “How about George Washington high school? ‘We want the name removed from that high school.’ They don’t know why. You know, they thought he had slaves. Actually I think he probably didn’t.’”

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I am fairly confident Donald Trump would flunk a sixth grade history test. 

Why doesnt he care more about being accurate when he talks about historical facts ? 

Because there is nothing in that for him. 

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Fact check: Trump says George Washington ‘probably didn’t’ own slaves. Washington did | National Politics | news8000.com


Washington (CNN) —   Former President Donald Trump delivered another litany of false claims during two speeches on Saturday. And he expressed an opinion on American history that is clearly contradicted by the facts.



During a speech to the Faith and Freedom Coalition, a conservative Christian group,   Trump criticized proposals to change the names of schools, military facilities and other places that honor slaveowners and Confederate leaders. (Under President Joe Biden, the Army has   renamed nine installations  that had been named for Confederate generals.) And Trump said, “How about George Washington high school? ‘We want the name removed from that high school.’ They don’t know why. You know, they thought he had slaves. Actually I think he probably didn’t.’”



Facts First :   Washington owned slaves. This is an   extensively documented fact . At the time of Washington’s death in 1799, there were   317 enslaved people at Mount Vernon , his home and plantation in Virginia, including   123 people owned by Washington himself




“George Washington owned slaves. We know this by his own hand. He kept ledgers on everyone he enslaved,” said Alexis Coe, a senior fellow at the think tank New America and author of “ You Never Forget Your First: A Biography of George Washington .” Coe said it is “reprehensible, on a personal level, to deny such a thing” and also “dangerous to our country” to have a leading presidential candidate espousing such inaccurate views on US history.



The website for Mount Vernon, which is now maintained as a historic place,   says  that the number of slaves at the property “grew steadily” over Washington’s time there from 1754 to 1799.



Washington   inherited 10 slaves   from his father at age 11. The Mount Vernon website notes that “as a young man, Washington purchased dozens of enslaved people from estate sales and in private transactions” – and that the first US president also rented slaves from others, inherited them from siblings, and enslaved the children who were born to slaves at Mount Vernon. When he married his wife Martha, the website notes, he also gained control of “a large number” of enslaved people from the estate of her first husband.



The   list   of   317 enslaved people at Mount Vernon at the time of his death included   41 people rented from other plantations   and 153 people from Martha’s first husband’s estate.



Washington   privately struggled  with the idea of slavery and, in the last two decades of his life, expressed private support for the idea of abolishing slavery by legislation. But when he died, he immediately   freed just one person in his will , his longtime manservant, and decreed that the other slaves he owned would be freed upon the death of his wife Martha. She ended up signing a deed to free all of his remaining slaves the year after his death, but she kept the slaves she had inherited herself.



Trump made many other false claims




Here are just some of the other false claims Trump made in the speech to the Christian conservative group or in his rally speech Saturday night in Philadelphia:



- Trump claimed Democrats rigged the 2020 presidential election, his usual debunked lie.



- Trump claimed “every legal scholar” wanted Roe v. Wade overturned and the power to set abortion policy returned to individual states, which is   not true .



- Trump claimed “just about all the Democrats” also wanted Roe overturned and abortion policy set by states, though Democrats   overwhelmingly supported the preservation of Roe .




- Trump claimed “there are states that allow” the execution of babies after birth, though   that is illegal in every state .



- Trump claimed that the US has record inflation, though the current inflation rate,   3.3% in May , is nowhere near the US record (23.7% in 1920) or even the 40-year high (9.1%) that was hit in June 2022.



- Trump claimed the price of bacon has increased 100% or more under Biden, though the Biden-era increase is   actually about 17%   as of May.



- Trump claimed Biden was the person who indicted him in the New York criminal case in which he was convicted on 34 felony counts, though a grand jury of ordinary citizens indicted him and the prosecution was led by a local district attorney who does not report to the federal government.



- Trump claimed the global prison population is “way down” under Biden because foreign leaders are emptying their detention facilities to send people to the US as migrants. But the global prison population is   actually up   since 2021, and there is no proof of Trump’s repeated claim about foreign leaders’ actions.



- Trump claimed crime in Venezuela is down 72%, though the limited available numbers show a   much smaller decline   of about 26%.



- Trump claimed crime in the US is “so much up,” though preliminary statistics show US crime   dropped significantly in 2023   and again in the   first quarter of 2024 .



- Trump claimed he has been indicted more than notorious gangster Al Capone, though   Capone was actually indicted more than Trump .



- Trump claimed China paid the entire cost of his tariffs on imported Chinese goods and that “the American people didn’t pay for it at all,” though   study  after  study   has found that Americans paid the overwhelming majority of the cost of the tariffs.



- Trump claimed the Biden administration is trying to require Army tanks to be all-electric, though the military’s move toward electric vehicles   does not include tanks .



- Trump told a story in which he claimed someone told him that non-electric trucks do not have to stop when driving from New York to Los Angeles, though they do. 


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    5 months ago

Any comments that do not address this question will be deleted. 

Should A Historically Illiterate Person Be President Of The United States ?
 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    5 months ago

Why not? What's an in-depth knowledge of every historical and current event got to do with running the country?

Who cares at this very late point that George Washington owned slaves? He was a man of his times.

It's doubtful that any Democrat would possess all this irrelevant knowledge either.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    5 months ago
Who cares at this very late point that George Washington owned slaves?

Trump evidently does, otherwise he wouldnt have lied about it. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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1.1.2  Gsquared  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    5 months ago
What's an in-depth knowledge of every historical and current event got to do with running the country?

Just about everything.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.1.3  afrayedknot  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    5 months ago

“…all this irrelevant knowledge…”

When one seeks to rise to earn the highest office in the land, one should exhibit at least a modicum of understanding and respect for its history, the peoples who forged it, and for realizing the promise that so many sacrificed to make it so. 

Understanding, respect and sacrifice are but adjectives for some, which is truly sad.

Justifying the loss of these basic human principles in support of an aberration is tragic. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    5 months ago

See, his supporters don't care what he says - 'Who cares?'

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  Gsquared @1.1.2    5 months ago

um duh? Am I right?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @1    5 months ago
Who cares at this very late point that George Washington owned slaves? He was a man of his times.

Lest we forget....

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Gsquared
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1.2.1  Gsquared  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2    5 months ago

So what?  You don't need know anything to make life and death decisions involving 350,000,000 people and possibly the fate of the entire planet.  Just let Trump be Trump and I'm sure everything will work out fine.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.2.2  MrFrost  replied to  Gsquared @1.2.1    5 months ago
Just let Trump be Trump and I'm sure everything will work out fine.

To quote my mother, (may she rest), "Jesus wept". 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.3  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @1    5 months ago

Every day #34 babbles some incoherent nonsense/gibberish.  Every day his cult scrambles to defend the indefensible.

SSDD

I came to the conclusion that he was (not sure what the proper word is) functionally illiterate some time ago yet his enablers/supporters lap up that garbage like it means something.  Or tell us what he meant or meant to say or what he really means.

Or essentially, they say who cares what he says?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    5 months ago

No, []

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3  Trout Giggles    5 months ago

My kids at 9 and 10 knew more about history that this supposedly stable genius ever did

 
 
 
fineline
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3.1  fineline  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    5 months ago

That knows really big words.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  fineline @3.1    5 months ago

the best words!

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4  Hal A. Lujah    5 months ago

Trump is illiterate on so many levels.  Do we want a geographically illiterate president?  How about socially illiterate?  Climate illiterate?  Geopolitically illiterate?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    5 months ago

Apparently, as the answer was yes in 2016.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1    5 months ago

Apparently, as the answer was yes in 2016.

Which proves that most of trump's voters are as dumb as he is. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.1    5 months ago
Which proves that most of trump's voters are as dumb as he is. 

Most would be greater than 50% and nothing was proven. 

Many American voters on both sides know little about history, civics, math science but know much more about the cultural entertainment related to their age group.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.1    5 months ago

Agree with what you say about his voters but think about this - who knows how it would have turned out if he hadn't had those stories buried about paying off Stormy and Karen McDougal and had fixer Michael Cohen pay off Stormy and then the cover up/campaign fraud(what was it called?) that he was found guilty of 34 felonies in that regard and Comey's Hillary surprise?

Also, he had lots of help from Putin.  Lots.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1.2    5 months ago
Most would be greater than 50% and nothing was proven. 

So you have polled every trump voter and know exactly how smart they are? 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.1.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.4    5 months ago

No, and neither have you.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.1.6  MrFrost  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.1.5    5 months ago

No, and neither have you.

I am not the one that claimed I did, either. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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5  MrFrost    5 months ago

Trump still thinks Obama is president. He's an idiot. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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5.1  Gsquared  replied to  MrFrost @5    5 months ago

Trump still thinks he's President.   

 
 
 
arkpdx
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6  arkpdx    5 months ago
even the 40-year high (9.1%) that was hit in June  2022.

Who was president in June 22. All of 2022 for that matter. Hmmm, let me think. 

 
 

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