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Josh Hawley Says Quiet Part Out Loud on Christian Nationalism

  
Via:  John Russell  •  3 days ago  •  42 comments

By:   Hafiz Rashid (The New Republic)

Josh Hawley Says Quiet Part Out Loud on Christian Nationalism
"Some will say I'm calling America a Christian nation. And so I am. Some will say I'm advocating Christian nationalism. And so I do. My question is: Is there any other kind worth having?" Hawley said at the conference's gala dinner Monday night.

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Senator Josh Hawley is proudly revealing the truth about the Republican agenda.


At the fourth National Conservatism Conference, known as NatCon 4, Senator Josh Hawley saw fit to tell the audience exactly what he stands for—and it's Christian nationalism.


"Some will say now that I am calling America a Christian Nation. So I am.
And some will say that I am advocating Christian Nationalism. And so I do."
-Senator @HawleyMO at NatCon 4 pic.twitter.com/yyJsA0BIkf

— National Conservatism (@NatConTalk) July 9, 2024

"Some will say I'm calling America a Christian nation. And so I am. Some will say I'm advocating Christian nationalism. And so I do. My question is: Is there any other kind worth having?" Hawley said at the conference's gala dinner Monday night.

The Missouri Republican defended his statement by claiming that American democracy was founded by Christian nationalism, which is also America's political tradition. He also spoke of replacing the Pride flag on federal buildings with the words "In God We Trust."

To his credit, Hawley did offer some unexpected suggestions in his speech, such as rejecting "blood and soil" authoritarianism and calling on Republicans to support unions (though not public-sector unions). But Hawley has given unions some token support and praise before, and it has never been backed up with any resolute or specific action.

In reality, his railing against elites and professed support for the working class belies his own private school, Ivy League background. Hawley has mistaken a white nationalist magazine's words for a Patrick Henry quote, scuttled bills simply to hurt President Biden, and written a bizarre book titled Manhood extolling the virtues of masculinity.

While all of this shows a politician seeking to say certain things for attention without much action, his words on Christian nationalism should be taken seriously because he's a true believer. For one, his wife is also part of the Christian nationalism movement, working for the extremist legal group Alliance Defending Freedom. Hawley happens to be up for reelection in November, and he faces a strong challenge from populist Democrat and military veteran Lucas Kunce. Will voters swallow his Christian nationalism and give him a second term in the Senate, or give a more genuine politician a chance?


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    3 days ago

If you listen to some on NT Christian nationalism isnt even a thing. Here we have a nationally prominent Republican politician not only acknowledging it is a thing, but advocating it. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 days ago

Some nationalists may call themselves Christians, but in my experience and observation, a majority of true Christians are not into radical fringe groups that go against the tenets of true Christianity. It's probably true that most patriotic Christians simply support and care about their country.

But the idea that Christian nationalism is much of a "thing" or a threat is just another unfounded fear of the left.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    3 days ago

True Christians - ROFL.  What the hell is that?  The ones that fit in your narrow definition?  The true Scotsman?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    3 days ago

christian nationalism is a huge part of project 2025

You saying it's not a thing, is your usual denial

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    2 days ago
christian nationalism is a huge part of project 2025

Have you read it?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 days ago

I'm betting he's part of Project 2025.

 
 
 
JBB
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2  JBB    3 days ago

MAGA Fascism Out Of The Closet!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @2    3 days ago

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Gsquared
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3  Gsquared    3 days ago

Josh Hawley.  Has there ever been a bigger waste of space?  Not that I can remember.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Gsquared @3    3 days ago

Wasn't he the one sprinting down the hall way on Jan 6? And he wrote a book on manhood and masculinity?

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1    3 days ago

He's the one.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.1    3 days ago

I've known cats braver than him

 
 
 
fineline
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3.1.3  fineline  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1    3 days ago

With contributions from Marge Greene.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  fineline @3.1.3    3 days ago

She explained masculinity to him. He didn't get it so she had to show him

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.5  Gsquared  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.2    3 days ago

My cat was fearless, except around little kids.  They scared the heck out of him.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.4    3 days ago

lol -  who was that rep that large marge said something about her eyelashes and the rep came back with 'bad bitch butch body' or something like that - lol -  I think her name is Jasmine Crockett

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.6    3 days ago

Yes. That is the wise woman's name. Hell, she's a bad ass for standing up to Large Marge

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.4    3 days ago

Oh yeah and large marge definitely has bigger balls than most of them

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.7    3 days ago

She's one of my new heroines

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.7    3 days ago

My descriptors of large marge would probably get me a ticket

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.1.11  Gsquared  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.9    3 days ago

Definitely.  She is awesome.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @3.1.11    3 days ago

She could wipe the floor with large marge and not break a sweat

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.13  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1    3 days ago

Breaking all world records for the 50-yard dash

The monster he helped create . . . . he had to run from 

Spineless weasel

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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3.1.14  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.2    2 days ago
've known cats braver than him

ive seen chickens, less chicken

run Josh run, away from those your blind following formed and from, an anti Christ that came close to getting you and many other Repubs, crucified

is what you did decide, was alright for US all, when you are proving alright for only like thinking cult followers, is Trump, the one you support while barely escaping with any masculinity, that Majorie likely pegged back into thee, as now, almost a he, he be, the masculinity picture of divine divinity u hold up as a chosen one , whom we should all worship as he will right our out of favor ship, on day one, via being our new dick potator twot grabbin maga swaggin, in da firing at the squad mod, never by Repubs deemed odd, Dicktator ship like a chip on Democracys shoulder, cause with every demonstrated lie his coalition grows bolder, like a boulder, grabbing speed and momentum to crush the opposition with a position to thwart the overtaking of a country, that used to stand for so much you see, beyond the utterly disgusting religious hippocracy as their Crocidialed up tears fresh gouges in their alligatored skin headed call to arms, with intent of far and great harms, in another grasp at and for, the White power House grab , and at so much more...

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.2  Sparty On  replied to  Gsquared @3    3 days ago

Think harder

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.2.1  Gsquared  replied to  Sparty On @3.2    3 days ago
Think harder

At your request, I did, and after carefully reconsidering all the pertinent factors I arrived at the same result, although Tom Cotton did come in as a close second. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Gsquared @3.2.1    3 days ago

He definitely is, but there's another who's giving him a run for his money...Ted Cruz

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @3.2.1    3 days ago

Although it's a tossup with most of today's spineless gop  - most republicons will do

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.2.4  Gsquared  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.2.2    3 days ago

Oh, for sure.  The list of runner ups is populated by the majority of republicans in Congress.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  seeder  JohnRussell    3 days ago

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.1  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 days ago
“Education really is evangelism. If you don’t control education, you cannot control the future—Stalin knew that, Mao knew that, Hitler knew that. We have to get that back for conservative values,” Helfenbein said...

Last week he also invoked Hitler.

The comment came in the same week that an Indiana chapter of Moms for Liberty used a Hitler quote. Moms for Liberty—an unrelated nonprofit organization that has driven the removal of books from school libraries across the nation—quoted the German despot in a newsletter: “He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.” After facing national backlash,  the group issued an apology . Liberty University spokesperson invokes Hitler (insidehighered.com)

He's a VP at Liberty University. It's only a matter of time before a video comes out showing this true believer's true colors.

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.1.1  Krishna  replied to  Split Personality @4.1    3 days ago

“He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.”

"Hitler Youth":

How the Hitler Youth Turned a Generation of Kids Into Nazis

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.1.2  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4.1.1    3 days ago
He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.”

"Hitler Youth":

How the Hitler Youth Turned a Generation of Kids Into Nazis

TOMORROW BELONGS TO ME (Cabaret)

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.2  Krishna  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 days ago

If God gave this nation to Christians-- then why did he take it back?

 
 
 
Gsquared
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4.3  Gsquared  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 days ago

He quotes Falwell:

"The idea that religion and politics do not mix is a lie the Devil came up with to keep Christians from running their own country."  

Yep, the Devil made me do it.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.3.1  Split Personality  replied to  Gsquared @4.3    3 days ago
Andrew Hamblin’s Facebook page is filled with snippets of his life.

Making a late-night run to Taco Bell. Watching SpongeBob on the couch with his kids. Handling rattlesnakes in church.

Hamblin, 21, pastor of Tabernacle Church of God in LaFollette, Tenn., is part of a new generation of serpent-handling Christians who are revitalizing a century-old faith tradition in Tennessee.

While older serpent handlers were wary of outsiders, these younger believers welcome visitors and use Facebook to promote their often misunderstood—and illegal—version of Christianity. They want to show the beauty and power of their extreme form of spirituality. And they hope eventually to reverse a state ban on handling snakes in church.

A new generation of snake-handling Christians is revitalizing a century-old faith tradition – Baptist News Global

Because, you know, Jesus had pet snakes too ..../s

SMH

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.3.2  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @4.3.1    3 days ago

I couldn't find this guy on FB - I looked up the snake handling stuff - deadly - crazy whackjobs -  or am I being redundant?

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.4  MrFrost  replied to  JohnRussell @4    2 days ago

Seems weird to me.....that God waited 1800 years to, "give it to the Christians". 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.4.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  MrFrost @4.4    2 days ago

Anyone who believes America is the new "Promised Land" for white evangelical Christians is a fucking psycho, and also likely a white evangelical Christian, but I repeat myself...

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5  Sparty On    3 days ago

Onward Christian soldiers ….. Baba Yaga lives ….

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6  Trout Giggles    3 days ago
My question is: Is there any other kind worth having?"

Yes, there is. A nation that takes secularization seriously and doesn't try to force all of its citizens into lockstep

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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7  Trout Giggles    2 days ago

Serious question for the right wing here on NT.

Do you really want every one to be the same? Think the same? Look the same? Worship the same?

 
 

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