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Leaked video shows Trump criticizing vaccines on phone with RFK Jr. : NPR

  
Via:  John Russell  •  4 months ago  •  66 comments

By:   Rachel Treisman (NPR)

Leaked video shows Trump criticizing vaccines on phone with RFK Jr. : NPR
Trump also appeared to appeal to Kennedy, though it's not clear for what exactly. "I would love you to do something," Trump said, without offering further context. "And I think it'll be so good for you and so big for you. And we're going to win."

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A leaked video of a phone call between third-party candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Donald Trump shows the former president expressing doubt about vaccines and recounting the attempt on his life and his subsequent phone call with President Biden.

Kennedy's son, Bobby Kennedy III, appears to have posted the nearly two-minute clip on X (formerly Twitter) on Tuesday morning. Kennedy's son has since deleted his tweet, but not before several other accounts reposted the video, which he said was taken on Sunday, the day after Trump's attempted assassination.


Trump after the assassination attempt discussed how he agrees with RFK Jr. on vaccines:
"I agree with you, man. Something's wrong with that whole system, and it's the doctors you find.
Remember I said I want to do small doses. Small doses. When you feed a baby, Bobby, a… pic.twitter.com/gDpYUuNTjQ

— End Tribalism in Politics (@EndTribalism) July 16, 2024

Kennedy has centered his political campaign on a conspiratorial view of the world, including promoting the misleading claim that vaccines are harmful. Trump, on the other hand, oversaw the initial U.S. response to the COVID-19 pandemic, and the federal government's development of the first vaccines against the virus.

The video shows Kennedy standing in a room with an American flag, holding up an iPhone and listening intently as Trump talks on speakerphone.

As the recording starts, Trump can be heard saying: "I agree with you, man. Something's wrong with that whole system, and it's the doctors you find."

"Remember I said 'I want to do small doses. Small doses,'" Trump added, echoing childhood vaccine-related comments he made on the debate stage in 2015.

"When you feed a baby, Bobby, a vaccination that is like 38 different vaccines, and it looks like it's meant for a horse, not a you know, 10-pound or 20-pound baby."

Trump referenced previous such conversations with Kennedy — against whom he has regularly leveled personal attacks this election season — saying, "You and I talked about that a long time ago." Kennedy said "Yup," the only time he spoke in the video.

Trump also appeared to appeal to Kennedy, though it's not clear for what exactly. "I would love you to do something," Trump said, without offering further context. "And I think it'll be so good for you and so big for you. And we're going to win."

Trump and Kennedy met in Milwaukee on Monday, hours before Trump officially became the Republican nominee. The meeting sparked plenty of rumors, which Kennedy sought to quell in a tweet later that day.

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"Our main topic was national unity, and I hope to meet with Democratic leaders about that as well," he wrote. "No, I am not dropping out of the race."

The Biden administration announced on Monday that Biden had directed the U.S. Secret Service to provide protection to Kennedy in light of the attempt on Trump's life, something Trump also urged in social media posts that day.

Trump also talked about his near-death experience in the phone call with Kennedy, saying the bullet felt "like the world's largest mosquito."

"It was a, what do they call that, an AR-15 or something, that's a big gun," added Trump, who made his first public appearance at the convention on Monday night with a large white bandage covering his ear.

Trump also recounted his phone call with Biden after the shooting, saying, "It was very nice, actually."

He said he told the president that he had turned his head at the right time while showing off a chart about immigration numbers at the rally, adding: "I didn't have to tell him the chart was about all the people pouring into our country."

The video started circulating on social media on Tuesday morning, prompting Kennedy to apologize via tweet.

"When President Trump called me I was taping with an in-house videographer," he wrote. "I should have ordered the videographer to stop recording immediately. I am mortified that this was posted. I apologize to the president."


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    4 months ago
Trump also appeared to appeal to Kennedy, though it's not clear for what exactly. "I would love you to do something," Trump said, without offering further context. "And I think it'll be so good for you and so big for you. And we're going to win."

This is damn near a smoking gun showing Trump and Kennedy are in cahoots. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2  Just Jim NC TttH    4 months ago

So what?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2    4 months ago
Trump and Kennedy are in cahoots. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.2  Ronin2  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2    4 months ago

I agree.

This is just like Colangelo the 3rd in charge for the DOJ quitting to become Bragg's #1 prosecutor in the bogus charges in the Trump hush money case.

It reeks of collusion and election interference; and must not be allowed to stand!

How dare Trump call Kennedy at all! They are both trying to make sure Biden doesn't win reelection!

They are almost acting like they are Biden's political rivals!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.2.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2    4 months ago
They are almost acting like they are Biden's political rivals!

The absolute horror jrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2    4 months ago

so kennedy is not trump's political rival ? 

 
 
 
George
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2.2.3  George  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2    4 months ago

When democrats do it, it is a coincidence, when republicans do it, it is a conspiracy.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.2.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.2    4 months ago

Evidently, if this "breaking news" is something, Trump doesn't think so.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  seeder  JohnRussell    4 months ago

Kennedy ostensibly is trying to beat Trump. And he met with him , with a little cryptic language thrown in?  

This should be a scandal that alters the race. 

 
 
 
George
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3.1  George  replied to  JohnRussell @3    4 months ago

This should be a scandal that alters the race. 

Until it's not, and then the next straw that the left grasps should alter the race.......The only thing that will alter the race is if Biden somehow appears lucid.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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3.2  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @3    4 months ago

This should be a scandal that alters the race.”

lmfao. Way to keep those hopes up!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Gazoo @3.2    4 months ago

If Kennedy is trying to beat Trump, why did he talk with him on the phone and then meet with him?

This is entirely conspiratorial. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.2    4 months ago

talk about Trump and Kennedy or you are going to be deleted. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.2.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    4 months ago

He wants a cabinet position

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.2.4    4 months ago

most likely

 
 
 
George
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3.2.8  George  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.6    4 months ago

OMG Biden called trump!!!! why is he talking to trump if he is trying to beat him????? the fix is in!!!!

 
 
 
Gazoo
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3.2.9  Gazoo  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.6    4 months ago

Kind of like the “end of democracy”. Although two brave souls did give a lame assed attempt at it.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.2.10  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.3    4 months ago

Aren't Trump and Kennedy the topic?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.11  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  George @3.2.8    4 months ago
"I would love you to do something," Trump said, without offering further context. "And I think it'll be so good for you and so big for you. And we're going to win."

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.2.12  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    4 months ago

Why did Biden call Trump?

I know Democrats don't believe it; but Kennedy is still in the race- and as the article you seeded even states:

Trump referenced previous such conversations with Kennedy — against whom he has regularly leveled personal attacks this election season

It couldn't have been a sign of the much talked about and so far non existent "unity" and cooling things down.

Nah, it is a vast conspiracy to overthrow the US! 

Glad to see leftists aren't taking a break from their tin foil hat rhetoric. 

I am sure the next deranged shooter just waiting for the proper cues to be shown that they have been waiting for is happy as well.

 
 
 
George
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3.2.13  George  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.11    4 months ago
"I would love you to do something," Trump said, without offering further context.

There it is.....the smoking gun.....Unfortuanely it will be a starters pistol shooting blanks. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4  Trout Giggles    4 months ago
"It was a, what do they call that, an AR-15 or something, that's a big gun," added Trump, 

He doesn't know fuck-all about guns. He was told what the gunman used and then couldn't fucking remember it.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @4    4 months ago
an AR-15 or something, that's a big gun

Looks to me like he remembered it.............

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1    4 months ago

oh please

He's not the macho man he wants to be. He's too citified to ever be a real man

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.1    4 months ago

Wonder if this kid's parents are going to be tried for murder like the kid's parents in Michigan for his shooting spree?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.2    4 months ago

This kid wasn't underage. He was full grown adult responsible for his own actions. Now if he took that gun from his dad his dad might be in trouble for I dunno....not securing a deadly weapon properly?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.3    4 months ago

Exactly. It was his dad's gun legally acquired. Probably not then. It was basically stolen to use. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.1    4 months ago

Also, he's a bully coward wimp and a raging wussy.

 
 
 
George
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4.1.6  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.2    4 months ago

That completely depends on who they voted for an/or donated to in the last election.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.4    4 months ago

So he asked his dad if he could borrow it?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.7    4 months ago

In that case if his dad said yes, he could be held liable one would think.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.9  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.5    4 months ago

I'll bet he's never walked thru grass barefoot in his entire life. Never wore jeans and a T-shirt, never a pair of sneakers, ever taken a walk in the park or in the woods, never gotten his hands dirty. I bet he gets regular manicures

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.8    4 months ago

I'm not going there because I don't know the law

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.1.11  Greg Jones  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.9    4 months ago

Are you talking about Biden?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.9    4 months ago

Or a hug from dad

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.13  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.12    4 months ago

I mean he probably never got a hug from dad (or probably mom either).

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.12    4 months ago

Yeah. I doubt if trmp ever hugged his own kids. Showing your kids real affection is what makes a man a real man

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.15  Sean Treacy  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.14    4 months ago

Well, we know Biden hugged his daughter

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.1.16  Ronin2  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.15    4 months ago

In the shower no less.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.1.17  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.8    4 months ago
In that case if his dad said yes, he could be held liable one would think.

And if his dad just left it lying around in an unlocked cabinet?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.18  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @4.1.17    4 months ago

Then it was stolen.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.19  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.15    4 months ago

And Ivanka gave her dad a lap dance when she was about 9

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.20  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.14    4 months ago

Lots of real men on NT - jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

Probably see love and affection as a weakness.   Too bad mommy and daddy never hugged them either.

 
 
 
George
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4.1.21  George  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.19    4 months ago

That's nothing compared to what Joe took from Ashley in the shower.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.23  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.22    4 months ago

shes probably referring to this

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Ivanka was 15 at the time, which in my opinion makes it more problematic

Although this photograph is genuine, it is not in itself evidence of some form of improper relationship between Donald Trump and his daughter. While some may view this image as evidence that Trump has a "creepy obsession" with Ivanka, others see it simply as a picture of a father and his teenaged daughter enjoying a concert together.

Ivanka Trump's 'Lap Dance' with Donald (dir.md)

I dont think a lot of 15 year old girls would want to sit on their fathers lap during a concert, but i could be wrong

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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4.1.24  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Ozzwald @4.1.17    4 months ago
And if his dad just left it lying around in an unlocked cabinet?

Funny you should mention that , i did read an article this AM that reported that at or about  the time of the shooting , the shooters father did call the police to state that both a firearm and his son were missing , i am assuming its after the attempt and the shooter was killed .

as for storage requirements by law in Penn? it was reported the state has no such laws or requirements on the books , but they do highly recommend one store firearms safely .

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.25  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.23    4 months ago

I forgot/got confused - there are so many questionable pictures of her and daddy.

Maybe she was 9 where the picture of them on a bed together with her arms wrapped around him in a 'hug'.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.27  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.23    4 months ago

You just know what's going on with daddy - stiffie

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.28  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @4.1.24    4 months ago

Thanks for that info. You are just full of details today. Kudos.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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4.1.29  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.7    4 months ago
So he asked his dad if he could borrow it?

I could see that happening , tell dad he wants some range time and ask to use it .my kids did it all the time , sometimes did it without asking, only had one that did that once , i call him my "GALLAGHER kid ". . go to the range and fire a little in case dad calls and checks up. that depends on how controlling of a parent one is , or has  in that case .

 i have other thoughts about the sequence of events , range, ammo store and hardware store visits the same day .

 as you said kid ( sorry at my age someone even 20 is still a kid) was a legal adult , could legally be in possession of a long arm ,  and was a member of the local range , lets not mention the fact he had no record that would indicate he should of not been able to .

 hearsay from others as to his skill/ competence  is just that hearsay .

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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4.1.30  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.28    4 months ago

getting use to full retirement , so i occupy my time with reading the news  as well as honing my sardonic/sarcastic , attitude demeanor and wit ..

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @4    4 months ago

He appears to know fuck-all about anything.

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
4.3  George  replied to  Trout Giggles @4    4 months ago
He doesn't know fuck-all about guns.

I have to agree with you there, an AR15 shooting a .223 is a 22 who had a round of steroids and decided it wasn't for them, it definetely isn't a big gun.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
4.3.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  George @4.3    4 months ago

The gun itself has little to do with it.

You'll notice right away that  the     is the much larger cartridge . Its case and its overall length are both greater than those of the 22 LR. Its much larger case naturally holds more propellant – the stuff that explodes to propel the projectile. The 223 Rem can easily have 12 times more powder than the 22 LR!

256   256

!

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
4.3.2  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.3.1    4 months ago

It's still just a little fat 22, just going faster because there is more propellant, it probably went through his ear like a hole punch.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.3.3  Snuffy  replied to  George @4.3    4 months ago

It's been reported that it wasn't the .223 version, it was a DPMS AR-15 5.56 rifle that was used to shoot at Trump.

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
5  squiggy    4 months ago

Another leaked video? Who got grabbed by the pussy, this time? Is this where the playbook repeats?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6  seeder  JohnRussell    4 months ago

By the time of the election Kennedy will be below 5%. 

It remains to be seen if that 5% can effect the outcome. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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6.1  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @6    4 months ago

So who cares if he and Trump talked?

If Kennedy isn't drawing enough support to effect the outcome?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @6.1    4 months ago

it sure sounds like collusion

"I would love you to do something," Trump said, without offering further context. "And I think it'll be so good for you and so big for you. And we're going to win."
 
 

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