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Polling shows both Harris and Biden tied with Trump : NPR

  
Via:  John Russell  •  4 months ago  •  36 comments

By:   Rachel Treisman (NPR)

Polling shows both Harris and Biden tied with Trump : NPR
The latest national NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll, released last week, found that Biden and Trump remain statistically tied, even in the aftermath of the widely panned debate. A Harris-Trump matchup also shows a statistical tie.

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As calls grow for Biden to leave the 2024 race, polling shows Harris and Trump statistically tied in a hypothetical matchup. Brandon Bell/Getty Images, Hannah Beier/Bloomberg via Getty Images hide caption

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With doubts swirling about President Biden's political future, so too are questions about how the party might fare without him come the general election in November.

Calls for the president to drop out of the race have only grown in the weeks since his poor debate performance in June, with increasingly high-profile members of his own party urging him to pass the torch.

The latest national NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll, released last week, found that Biden and Trump remain statistically tied, even in the aftermath of the widely panned debate.

Biden leads Trump 50% to 48% in a head-to-head matchup — but that gap is within the survey's margin of error of +/- 3.3 percentage points.

Loading...The poll also found that none of the Democrats who have been mentioned as possible alternatives — including California Gov. Gavin Newsom and Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer — performed any better than Biden when compared to Trump.

Vice President Kamala Harris, an obvious candidate to serve as Biden's successor, narrowly led Trump 50% to 49%, in another statistical tie.

"So there is no clear Democratic alternative, though, as Democrats who have called for Biden to step aside would argue, those candidates could all make the case more coherently for themselves and the party," NPR's Domenico Montanaro writes.

And those numbers could look different after this week, since the RNC is expected to give Trump a boost, as party conventions typically do for their nominees.

Biden — who is isolating with COVID-19 as Trump prepares to formally accept the Republican nomination — insists he will stay in the race.

Biden's campaign manager told reporters Thursday that they are "not working through any scenarios where President Biden is not at the top of the ticket."


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    4 months ago
The poll also found that none of the Democrats who have been mentioned as possible alternatives — including California Gov. Gavin Newsom and Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer — performed any better than Biden when compared to Trump.

This is dumbest argument it is humanly possible to make , and yet we see our mainstream media making it every day. 

Ask a ten year old if they think Harris can beat Trump, and they will likely ask you "is she running"?

And that is the crux of why this sort of polling is meaningless if not idiotic. The poll numbers of people who have been campaigning for a particular office for a year cannot be compared to people who are not yet in the race. 

I guarantee you that if Harris becomes the nominee her numbers will improve, and the Democratic enthusiasm for this election will improve.  The same for Whitmer or Newsome. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 months ago
"I guarantee you that if Harris becomes the nominee her numbers will improve, and the Democratic enthusiasm for this election will improve.  The same for Whitmer or Newsome".

Dream on. "Giggles" Harris is unelectable. Newsome has made a third world country out of California, and would do the same to the USA, and what has Gretchen done lately? 

The Republicans have been hitting a lot of home runs of late, the Dem bull pen is empty.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.1.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    4 months ago

Three words come to mind describing the seeded article:

EXTREME HORSE MANURE!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    4 months ago

Trump is demented. make me the candidate and I will prove it.  And I'm nobody special. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2  seeder  JohnRussell    4 months ago

MSNBC , the alleged "liberal"  news channel has barely mentioned Trump's bizarre and disastrous speech last night, and is spending all of its air time attacking Biden and the Democrats. 

NBC appears to have jumped into the tank for trump. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 months ago

Other than being sick of all things trump - I do get pretty sick of seeing nothing good about President Biden and the great job he has done despite the unimaginable pressure he must be under FROM ALL SIDES and the unreal hard to find coverage of what a dismal trainwreck the former 'president' and maga are, or very little good

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @2.1    4 months ago

Biden is considering by millions to be an awful and corrupt person and has done nothing good for country the entire 4 years he has be desecrating the office of POTUS

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @2.1    4 months ago
I do get pretty sick of seeing nothing good about President Biden and the great job he has done

Like?  And please be specific to what he or his policies had to do with anything you might mention.

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
2.2  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 months ago
NBC appears to have jumped into the tank for trump.

That's hilarious. "Nothing's a big deal until it affects me."

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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2.2.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  squiggy @2.2    4 months ago

Liberal Dems jumping ship for Trump must be leaving a lot of of other hard core leftist liberal Bidenistas foaming at the mouth!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3  Right Down the Center    4 months ago

Loading...The poll also found that none of the Democrats who have been mentioned as possible alternatives — including California Gov. Gavin Newsom and Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer — performed any better than Biden when compared to Trump.

So much for the deep bench some keep saying the dems have.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  seeder  JohnRussell    4 months ago

Trump said in his speech that "tens of thousands" of people attended the rally

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that is not "tens of thousands " of people. 

Police estimated 15,000,  and the police everywhere are routinely over generous in their crowd estimates. 

 
 
 
goose is back
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4.1  goose is back  replied to  JohnRussell @4    4 months ago
Police estimated 15,000

JR, 10's of thousands means between 10,000 and 100,000, so what's your point?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4    4 months ago
hat is not "tens of thousands " of people. 

Between this, whining about bandages and obsessing over how long Trump looked at one of his kids, have progressives reached rock bottom of things to whine about? 

 
 
 
George
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4.2.1  George  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2    4 months ago

No.

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2.2  bugsy  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2    4 months ago

No, to most leftists, there is no rock bottom.

when one goes lower than the last and predictably fails, another one is sure to step up and say “hold my beer”. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  seeder  JohnRussell    4 months ago

Donald Trump turning away from his daughter Tiffany when she approached him for a kiss at the convention.

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Don't believe it? Watch the video.

Is it possible he didnt recognize her ? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @5    4 months ago

here he is looking directly at her

800

less than one second later he has turned his head away, and tiffany walks away

800

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    4 months ago
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Shes not Ivanka. How pitiful that whole world witnessed her humiliation.
 
 
 
GregTx
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5.1.2  GregTx  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    4 months ago

Perhaps they had a spat earlier in the day? You know, family stuff..

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  GregTx @5.1.2    4 months ago
Perhaps they had a spat earlier in the day?

yeah, she called him dad. 

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.1.4  GregTx  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.3    4 months ago

Somehow I don't think that would have caused a rift between father and daughter. But at least you get the point...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @5    4 months ago

Lol. Did you see Biden try and kiss some random girl last week  and Jill had to  run in and grab him?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2    4 months ago

So Trump should turn his head, with lightning speed, away from his daughter ? 

 
 
 
George
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5.2.2  George  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2    4 months ago

He thought it was shower time with Ashley.

 
 
 
Hallux
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5.2.3  Hallux  replied to  George @5.2.2    4 months ago

Grow up!

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
5.2.4  squiggy  replied to  Hallux @5.2.3    4 months ago
Donald Trump turning away from his daughter Tiffany when she approached him for a kiss at the convention.

... was the topic FFS.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
5.2.5  Hallux  replied to  squiggy @5.2.4    4 months ago

Given time you will figure it out.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
5.2.6  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.1    4 months ago

Yep, just so she can kiss him on the cheek like a normal adult daughter would.jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @5    4 months ago

It’s amazing what people are interested in and how they love to speculate on some stories.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.3    4 months ago

You can be interested or not, but it is hardly speculation.  As she gets closer to him he literally snaps his head away from her.  Maybe she has b.o. , but I doubt it. 

 
 
 
JBB
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5.3.2  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.3    4 months ago

Are you saying you find it interesting that others find interesting what you obviously also find interesting day in and day out?

That's interesting...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5.3.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.1    4 months ago
You can be interested or not, but it is hardly speculation.

Ive never been the center of attention in a convention hall while running for the presidency.  I have no clue what he was thinking and since I’m not voting for him, O don’t care.

Did you feel bad for Tiffany? 

 
 
 
JBB
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5.3.4  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.3.3    4 months ago

That is a bad Imitatation of not caring...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5.3.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @5.3.4    4 months ago

How so?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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5.3.6  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.1    4 months ago

Maybe she has b.o. , but I doubt it.

Wouldn’t they just cancel each other out then?

 
 

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