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@BahdAzzButterOfficials believe the shots fired at Trump International Golf Club were intended for President Donald Trump, according to sources familiar on the matter (CNN) An AK-47 was discovered in the bushes, per local law enforcement. The Trump campaign has released a statement confirming former President Trump is safe. A suspect has reportedly been apprehended.











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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    6 days ago

Here we go again. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  seeder  JohnRussell    6 days ago

What we're covering

  • Donald Trump is “safe following gunshots in his vicinity” Sunday, his campaign  said in a statement . The former president was playing at Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach, Florida, when shots were fired.
  • Officials believe an armed individual intended to target Trump, according to sources briefed on the matter. A person has been detained in connection to the incident, according to a law enforcement source.
  • The Secret Service said it is working with the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office to investigate a protective incident involving Trump. The Secret Service said the incident occurred shortly before 2 p.m.
  • President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris are both “relieved to know” that Trump is safe and have been briefed on the security incident, according to the White House.
  • Live updates: Donald Trump safe after gunfire at his Florida golf course | CNN Politics
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2    6 days ago

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JohnRussell
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2.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    6 days ago

Trump calling for unity and peace is hilarious. 

 
 
 
Thomas
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2.1.2  Thomas  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    6 days ago

He was pissed that it interrupted his golf game so he didn't realize what he was typing

 
 
 
GregTx
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3  GregTx    6 days ago

Why does this keep happening?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @3    6 days ago

Same reason we have school and church shootings.   

It only takes one nutcase with a gun.   

 
 
 
GregTx
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3.1.1  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @3.1    6 days ago

True. But what's the motive?...

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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3.1.2  sandy-2021492  replied to  GregTx @3.1.1    6 days ago

We don't know that yet.

It could be that this person really wanted him dead and intended to make that happen.

It could be that this person wanted to scare him into dropping out of the race, and never actually intended to shoot him at all.

It could be that this person saw the boost he got in support the last time somebody tried to shoot Trump, and the whole thing was staged for sympathy votes.

It could be that this person is just deranged and not thinking straight.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @3.1.1    6 days ago

Why are you asking me?

When considering the motive of assassins, consider the irrational motives of people like John Hinckley (Reagan) or Mark David Chapman (Lennon).

IMO anyone who is trying to assassinate someone is at least irrational and at worst insane.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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3.1.4  sandy-2021492  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.3    6 days ago
IMO anyone who is trying to assassinate someone is at least irrational and at worst insane.

I'll disagree here.  I think some know perfectly well what they're doing, and that it's wrong and could end in their own deaths, but are willing to take that risk, anyway.  

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.1.4    6 days ago
could end in their own deaths, but are willing to take that risk, anyway.  

Martyrs? 

 
 
 
CB
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3.2  CB  replied to  GregTx @3    6 days ago

Why not? Guns are 'everywhere.'  May as well. . . use them.  /s

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  GregTx @3    6 days ago

stochastic terrorism 

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.3.1  Krishna  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.3    6 days ago
stochastic terrorism 

or perhaps-- Antediluvian terrorism?

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.3.2  Gsquared  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.3    6 days ago
stochastic terrorism

Stochastic terrorism by Trump and Vance directed at Haitian immigrants is the cause of the bomb threats that occurred in Sprinfield, Ohio, this week. 

The assassination attempt against Trump in Butler, PA, was the action of a publicity seeking registered Republican who was undoubtedly insane.  No motive has been revealed yet for today's occurrence, although if it was actually directed at Trump, it is more likely than not much the same as the previous incident.

Any attempt to blame what may have happened today on Democrats would be nothing more than neo-Fascist propaganda.

 
 
 
GregTx
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3.3.3  GregTx  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.3    6 days ago

Doesn't seem random to me...

 
 
 
GregTx
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3.3.4  GregTx  replied to  Krishna @3.3.1    6 days ago

Nor that...

 
 
 
GregTx
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3.3.5  GregTx  replied to  Gsquared @3.3.2    6 days ago

How many assassination attempts have been made against Harris or Biden again?...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.3.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  Gsquared @3.3.2    6 days ago
blame what may have happened today on Democrats w

Just like the last shooter ,all of the wanna be assassin's donations were to democrats. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.3.7  Gsquared  replied to  GregTx @3.3.5    6 days ago

Irrelevant.

 
 
 
GregTx
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3.3.8  GregTx  replied to  Gsquared @3.3.7    6 days ago

Why?

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.3.9  Gsquared  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.3.6    6 days ago
Just like the last shooter ,all of the wanna be assassin's donations were to democrats. 

That comment is deceptively misleading and/or incoherent.

The "last shooter", Thomas Matthew Crooks, made a single $15 donation to Democrats through ActBlue at the age of 17.  When he became old enough to register, he registered as a republican.  Therefore, he did not make "donations", only a single donation, and to state "all of the wanna be assassin's donations", is deceptively misleading.

Furthermore, to state "Just like the last shooter" implies that the individual involved in today's occurence made donations to Democrats, which is also deceptively misleading.  What proof is there at this time that the he made any donations to anyone?  None.

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.10  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.3.6    6 days ago

Look for the facts. . .follow them where ever and to whomever 'they' lead. . . not a scapegoat!

 
 
 
Gsquared
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3.3.11  Gsquared  replied to  GregTx @3.3.8    6 days ago

What relevance is there that there are no reported assassination attempts against Biden or Harris? 

It's certainly not relevant to the fact that Trump and Vance have been engaging in stochastic terrorism against Haitian immigrants. 

It's not relevant to the fact that the Butler, PA, shooter was a registered Republican. 

It's not relevant to the fact that no motive has yet been ascribed to today's incident. 

And, it's not relevant to the fact that attempting to blame Democrats for today's events would be neo-Fascist propaganda.   

So, you tell us.  Why is it relevant?

 
 
 
CB
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3.3.12  CB  replied to  Gsquared @3.3.11    6 days ago
It's not relevant to the fact that the Butler, PA, shooter was a registered Republican. 

Also, it is not relevant to the fact that the FBI have no motivation for the Butler PA shooter: Thomas Matthew Crooks.

Some people need to slow down their conjecturing to responsible levels! Lives are at stake when the rumor-mill gets involved and runs 'wild.'

 
 
 
GregTx
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3.3.13  GregTx  replied to  Gsquared @3.3.11    6 days ago

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Gsquared
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3.3.14  Gsquared  replied to  GregTx @3.3.13    6 days ago

Are you joking?  I listed several reasons as to why it's not relevant to the comment you responded to. 

For your information, "not relevant" means the same thing as "irrelevant".

Try again.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.3.15  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @3.3.13    6 days ago

Read his opening question.   Do you not see G2 acknowledge no reported assassination attempts against Biden or Harris?

We all know that no assassination attempts were made on Biden or Harris.

Make your point if you have one.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.3.16  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @3.3.14    6 days ago

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GregTx
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3.3.17  GregTx  replied to  Gsquared @3.3.14    6 days ago

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GregTx
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3.3.18  GregTx  replied to  Tessylo @3.3.16    6 days ago

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Gsquared
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3.3.19  Gsquared  replied to  GregTx @3.3.17    6 days ago

I provided clear and precise answers to your question, but apparently you don't like the answers, so now your latest comment is facetious trolling.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3.4  Tacos!  replied to  GregTx @3    6 days ago
Why does this keep happening?

Because we have more guns than people. I have been in the vicinity of gunfire many times. So have lots of people - especially K-12 kids at school.

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.5  Krishna  replied to  GregTx @3    6 days ago
Why does this keep happening?

How many times has it actually happened? 
(I can remember only 1 previous attempt--but possibly I missed some).

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.5.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Krishna @3.5    6 days ago
(I can remember only 1 previous attempt--but possibly I missed some).

Reagan and JFK?

 
 
 
GregTx
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3.5.2  GregTx  replied to  Ozzwald @3.5.1    6 days ago

Nah, they were PotUS. Would have been Robert Kennedy. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.6  Krishna  replied to  GregTx @3    6 days ago
Why does this keep happening?

Could it maybe-- just possibly-- be because Trump making statements that really piss people off?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4  Drinker of the Wry    6 days ago

'Cause he made a promise he swore he'd always remember
No retreat, baby, no surrender
Blood brothers in the stormy night with a vow to defend
No retreat, baby, no surrender
Hey!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  seeder  JohnRussell    6 days ago

According to NBC , the FBI is describing it as an attempted assassination, although there is some confusion as to whether any shots were actually fired in Trumps direction. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @5    6 days ago

What I saw earlier was there was no assassination attempt - just that shots were fired near the golf course.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6  Sean Treacy    6 days ago

Donald Trump has now experienced as many assassination attempts as Kamala has experienced interviews.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    6 days ago

She better get going if she wants to catch up, its still early. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7  seeder  JohnRussell    6 days ago
"We have to get over it,"

Trump's stated attitude toward gun violence. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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7.1  Krishna  replied to  JohnRussell @7    6 days ago
"We have to get over it,"
Trump's stated attitude toward gun violence. 

This is serious. In fact, it may call for even the most extreme actions!!! jrSmiley_5_smiley_image.png

(I speak, of course, of using the dreaded  "Thoughts and Prayers" Gambit!)

 
 
 
Tacos!
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8  Tacos!    6 days ago
gunshots in his vicinity

So? Many of us have been in the vicinity of gunshots. It’s not a national crisis. Nothing in this reporting indicates there is any evidence that someone took a shot at Trump. And if merely being in the vicinity of guns or gun shots is so scary, then maybe we should get some bipartisan gun control, yeah?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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8.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @8    6 days ago

Shots were fired at someone who appeared to be targeting Trump. It now seems that maybe all the shots were fired by law enforcement at the suspect. An AK47 with a scope was recovered in a place that could be described as a lair where the suspect could have gotten a good shot at Trump. The suspect was discovered before the Trump foursome had reached the hole where the suspect was waiting. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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8.1.1  Krishna  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1    6 days ago
The suspect was discovered before the Trump foursome had reached the hole where the suspect was waiting. 

Discovered before?

Rings a bell-- wasn't that also the case with the prior attempt on his life (the time the bullet grazed his ear?)

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.2  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1    6 days ago

In all seriousness, I am glad that a suspect is caught. Especially so before any other harm could be done to anybody, including Crooked Donald!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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8.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @8.1.2    6 days ago
I am glad that a suspect was caught.

You seem to be in a minority among democrats.  Blue anon claims it's a fake and others  seem to have no problem with the gun replacing the ballot box, given the comments.

Imagine saying who cares  when someone tries to kill a Presidential candidate... Some people seem to welcome violence, sadly. 

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.4  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.3    6 days ago

I don't like Crooked Donald. But, nor will I sanction violence of any kind towards him (and wish he would not suggest/hint/imply it against others). On a potentially positive note: Maybe the do-nothing congress (some conservatives) will have 'notice' to get off their butts and hands - do-something about AK's.

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.5  CB  replied to  CB @8.1.4    6 days ago

And no, I wont' squander any of my time on Crooked Donald with sympathy for that man or his V. P. choice. I just don't think firing weapons at them is right in and of itself!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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8.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  CB @8.1.5    6 days ago
. I just don't think firing weapons at them is right in and of itself!

Yeah, and it is also illegal.

I wonder if Kamala will donate to the perp's bail fund, if he is given bail.

 
 
 
CB
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8.1.7  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.6    6 days ago

I wouldn't squander my time wondering about what a 'prosecutor' will do! Space is open for the last word.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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8.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  CB @8.1.7    6 days ago
wouldn't squander my time wondering about what a 'prosecutor' will do! 

Yes, I am aware of that.

Although it doesn't relate to my post.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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8.2  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @8    6 days ago

Yup, gun shots in his vicinity now equates to an assassination attempt

 
 
 
Texan1211
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8.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @8.2    6 days ago

So you will not believe that there have been attempts on Trump's life, verified by the Biden Admin. Justice Dept., but you will believe in the Steele Dossier and mythical pee tapes.

 
 
 
shona1
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9  shona1    6 days ago

Morning... Oh crap...now our news will be full of it yet again..what a way to start the day...

At least this time they didn't have the Secret Service Fumbalenas on duty and one off breast feeding her baby...

For some reason that old saying third time lucky keeps resonating...

 
 
 
CB
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9.1  CB  replied to  shona1 @9    6 days ago

Because we are old enough to remember  the saying: "The Third time is the charm." — Proverb.  Additionally, the Bible says "3" is the representation of completeness. As in: :) :) :)

 
 
 
Texan1211
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9.2  Texan1211  replied to  shona1 @9    6 days ago
For some reason that old saying third time lucky keeps resonating...

Feels like we won't have a shortage of idiots trying to do the job correctly.

 
 
 
CB
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10  CB    6 days ago

This is serious: NO SYMPATHY VOTES for someone who does not deserve any of that!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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10.1  Texan1211  replied to  CB @10    6 days ago

What sympathy votes?????

 
 
 
CB
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10.1.1  CB  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1    6 days ago

Good! No sympathy should be rendered to gun supporters who won't lift a finger in voting to support a(ny) fix to the gun 'problem' in our country. The last word is available if somebody would like it. :)

 
 
 
Texan1211
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10.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  CB @10.1.1    6 days ago

I have trouble relating your post to mine.

Have a good night.

 
 

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