Fox Host Says Maybe Trump Didn't Realize Hitler's Generals Were Nazis
By: Nikki McCann Ramirez (Rolling Stone)
Trump's former chief of staff said on Tuesday that the former president said he needed "the kind of generals that Hitler had"
By Nikki McCann Ramirez
Former White House Chief of Staff John Kelly went on the record this week in two bombshell interviews detailing his concerns about former President Donald Trump's fascist ambitions.
On Tuesday, Kelly told The New York Timesthat the former president meets the established definition of fascism. "Certainly the former president is in the far-right area, he's certainly an authoritarian, admires people who are dictators — he has said that. So he certainly falls into the general definition of fascist, for sure," Kelly said, adding that Trump "certainly prefers the dictator approach to government."
Kelly's blunt interview with the Times came on the heels of a separate interview with The Atlantic, in which he elaborated on his previous assertions that the former president had expressed admiration for Hitler's generals during his time as president. According to the recollections of two people who spoke to The Atlantic, Trump had once said he needed "the kind of generals that Hitler had," as in "people who were totally loyal to him, that follow orders." When Kelly attempted to clarify with the former president exactly whose generals he was referring to, Trump confirmed that he meant "Hitler's generals."
Trump loyalists are defending the former president following the report. On Wednesday morning, Fox News' Brian Kilmeade went to bat for the former president.
"[Former Defense Secretary Jim] Mattis and Kelly didn't like the president," Kilmeade said, referencing the memoir of H.R. McMaster — Trump's former national security adviser who also wrote that Putin is manipulating Trump by exploiting his ego. "I can absolutely see [Trump] go, 'It'd be great to have German generals that actually do what we ask them to do, maybe not fully being cognizant of the third rail of German generals who were Nazis or whatever," Kilmeade said. "But he was frustrated with the slow down of commands that were not implemented."
Kilmeade's co-host, Lawrence Jones, added of Mattis and Kelly trying to check Trump's worst impulses that it "wasn't just a slow down it was insubordination," and called for Trump's former generals to be fired.
While some of Trump's more draconian plans during his first administration were neutralized by government officials unwilling to break U.S. law or their oaths of office to placate him, the former president is planning a very different atmosphere for his next administration should he win in November. Trump's allies are already pre-vetting potential candidates to fill appointments in a second administration, and loyalty to the MAGA movement is of chief concern.
"We can have the best of the best join him to create the most extraordinary government you have ever seen to protect you and to build the America that he wants to build," Howard Lutnick, co-chair of Trump's presidential transition team, said earlier this week. "They will be loyal to him. They will have fidelity to him. They will follow his policies."
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'Fox Host Says Maybe Trump Didn't Realize Hitler's Generals Were Nazis'
So that's what the former 'president' traitor was 'trying to say'?
When I was 13 years old and a freshman at a Catholic high school we had extensive lessons in the history of WW2, including the Nazi Party. Maybe Trump didnt make it to 9th grade.
He hired a proxy to take it for him
www.thebulwark.com /p/the-sad-pathetic-spectacle-of-john
The Sad, Pathetic Spectacle of John Kelly’s Critics
Sarah Longwell 5-7 minutes 10/23/2024
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WHEN GEN. JOHN KELLY WENT PUBLIC about Trump’s praise for Hitler and his fears about a dictatorial second Trump term, he joined a growing list of former Trump officials ringing the alarm.
He also sparked what has become a pathetic if not predictable pattern, in which a chorus of Trump sycophants obediently rush forward to explain away the alarming revelation and impugn the witness’s credibility.
Here’s reliable Trump lickspittle Scott Jennings telling us that Kelly probably made the whole thing up and that the real Hitlers are on college campuses. Trump apologist Ryan James Girdusky said , “I, honest to God, like most Americans, do not care about Gen. Kelly’s farewell tour.”
Brian Kilmeade on Fox and Friends said of Trump’s praise for Nazi generals: “I can absolutely see him go, ‘It'd be great to have German generals that actually do what we ask them to do,’ maybe not fully being cognizant of the third rail of German generals who were Nazis, or whatever.” (Not a parody.)
Trump confidante Mike Davis called Kelly “Gen. Christine Blasey Ford”—get it? Chris Sununu is unbothered: “We’ve heard a lot of extreme things from Donald Trump. With a guy like that, it’s kinda baked into the vote.” Sen. Bill Hagerty, on CNN, downplayed the entire revelation as a matter of personal dispute between two men. Kelly and Trump, he said, “were not a good fit.”
There is something deeply pernicious to this routine. These people want you to forget the cumulative weight of the accusations against Trump, especially when those accusations are coming from his own former employees—many of them high-ranking military officers. They’re doing so not because they don’t believe the accusations but because they know how harmful they could be.
You know how we know this? Because the claims of Kelly and others are backed up by what we’ve seen with our own eyes over the last nine years.
Are we supposed to be skeptical that Trump called soldiers “suckers” and “losers” when he said as much out loud about John McCain?
Are we supposed to be skeptical that he praised Hitler’s generals when he admires dictators, dined with white supremacist Nick Fuentes, calls people “vermin,” and talks about immigrants “poisoning the blood” of America?
Are we supposed to believe he bears no responsibility for January 6th when we all watched him summon a mob and sic it on the Capitol?
Are we supposed to believe that this is all about some personal tiff between Kelly and Trump when so many others have so many similar accounts?
When Trump’s former vice president, Mike Pence, told us that “the American people deserve to know that President Trump asked me to put him over my oath to the Constitution” on January 6th?
When James Mattis said Trump’s “use of the presidency to destroy trust in our election and to poison our respect for fellow citizens has been enabled by pseudo political leaders whose names will live in infamy as profiles in cowardice”?
When Mark Esper said Trump was “unfit for office,” and put “himself before country”?
When John Bolton warned that “this will be a retribution presidency”?
When Ty Cobb said Trump’s “conduct and mere existence have hastened the demise of democracy and of the nation”?
When Mark Milley called Trump “fascist to the core” and “the most dangerous person to this country”?
When Bill Barr said Trump “shouldn’t be anywhere near the Oval Office”?
I have another idea: Why don’t we accept the obvious truth that is staring us in the face? Trump is dangerous and unfit and all the responsible people who served in his last term have told us as much.
KELLY HAD BEEN RELUCTANT to speak publicly about his assessment of Trump. Previously, he said that speaking out against his former boss wouldn’t even get “ a half a day’s bounce .” Trump’s apologists are trying to prove him right. We shouldn’t let them.
Kelly did the right thing. But it’s not enough. These messages need to reach people where they are, especially disengaged voters—not because they aren’t politically potent (they are) but because they fundamentally matter.
When someone of Kelly’s stature and proximity to Trump says the ex-president is a fascist and praised Hitler’s generals, it should send a great chill through our body politic. If this becomes a half-a-day story, it will be an indictment on all of us.
We are now in the home stretch. Millions of voters are—right this moment—making up their minds. This is the time when elections are won or lost. Those other former officials now have an obligation to do what Kelly has: come forward and offer their candid assessments of Trump.
They should do so not just to defend Kelly but to make a larger point: that we can, should, and must be honest about the threat Trump poses.
Trump’s defenders want us to doubt what we have seen with our own eyes and heard with our own ears. They want us to treat a White House chief of staff confirming that the former president praised Hitler and called members of the military “suckers and losers” as just another bit of campaign fodder—not evidence of something fundamentally rotten at the core of their movement. If we allow that to happen, it will be a stain on our politics akin to electing Trump himself.
Trump scatters the collective weight by lying some more... How can you tell?
Your 47th president
Make America Hate Again
Another deluded rant/confession
I caught a bit of something today where Trump was trashing Mathis, Milley and Kelly and said he only wanted Generals like the ones that hunted down ISIS.
Like the ones who worked for Mathis & Milley?
Trump is dumber than a rock.
I se at least one lie in his statement
Maybe Kilmeade didn't realize Trump is a Nazi.
People should seriously watch this interview by Trump's former chief of staff. A ★★★★ General, John Kelly, reporting candidly and calmy on his direct experiences with Trump while operating as his chief of staff.
It will not matter to the faithful. It is all fake news to them.
I was having a debate with one of my high school friends and I realized that he had been snatched by the Trumpinator.
“I was having a debate with one of my high school friends and I realized that he had been snatched by the Trumpinator.”
I too, had a recent conversation with an old friend.
A month or so ago, I would have listened and said nothing. This time, I told him I loved him, and in that context, expressed my feelings. We left it as agreeing to disagree, with our friendship intact.
For what it’s worth.
I have repeatedly had that conversation. Well, maybe not telling them that I loved them....
I am heading to a delayed Milton funeral in FL in two weeks, all childhood and high school peeps,
the wives have already set the ground rules. No politics, no guns or gun talk.
It’s pathetic the way Fox and Republicans try to rewrite everything Trump says because they know it’s terrible - only to have him double down on his atrocious comments when asked about it later.
That's what he has always done because up till now it has worked. That is what he does. He goes his own way. The trick is to express going your own way as being bad.
A little bit of humor
Trump doesn’t want generals, he wants stormtroopers.
So what makes you think the military will comply?
I don’t think the military will comply, but there are clearly some deranged and deluded members of the military that do support him no matter what he says or does. Thank you sir may I have another is the phrase that comes to mind.