Gavin Newsom Calls For Special Session to Fight Trump
By: Mediaite
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) has called for a special session in the state's legislature to prepare legal defenses against President-elect Donald Trump.
Newsom issued a statement on Thursday claiming that Trump's election warrants immediate action from California's lawmakers in Sacramento, according to Politico. The governor cited Trump's position on abortion, immigration, and disaster aid relief as reasoning for the emergency session in Sacramento.
"The freedoms we hold dear in California are under attack — and we won't sit idle," Newsom said in a statement. The special session is expected to start next month on December 2.
During Trump's first-term in office, California filed over 120 lawsuits against the White House over their policies on immigration, gun control, and health care. The special session appears to signal that the state will serve a similar role as Trump prepare for another office term.
California is ready to fight.
I just called an emergency special session to help bolster our legal resources and protect our state against any unlawful actions by the incoming Trump Administration.
Whether it be our fundamental civil rights, reproductive freedom, or climate… pic.twitter.com/fIBPKsehot
— Gavin Newsom (@GavinNewsom) November 7, 2024
"I just called an emergency special session to help bolster our legal resources and protect our state against any unlawful actions by the incoming Trump Administration," Newsom wrote in a post on X. "Whether it be our fundamental civil rights, reproductive freedom, or climate action — we refuse to turn back the clock and allow our values and laws to be attacked."
Newsom, who served as a surrogate to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, was seen as a potential successor to Biden after he dropped out of the race earlier this year. His proclamation asks lawmakers to approve more funding for California Attorney General Rob Bonta and other state agencies to fight Trump's actions in court.
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Every state that cares about these things should be doing something similar. We have to be ready to fight back as best we can.
Trump will be picking the next AG who will be unlikely to weaponize the DOJ as Garland has. He also should also clean house at the FBI so the government agencies can go back to enforcing the law and supporting the Constitution.
Hopefully. Unless of course he wants to include parents who think boys should be allowed in girls bathrooms as domestic terrorists.
The collective "you" can have some conservative values. . .(they might be good for you), but make no mistake "We the People" (just like "you") have and plan to keep to our liberal values and we intend to politically fight some conservatives to keep them. It just got a setback. . . but setbacks lead to discipline and opportunity to grow and improve upon throughout.
This could be a time for opposing sides to reconsider working together, or we can continue to treat each other like 'waste byproducts' and eventually gain the reward such attitudes engender. Time to reset for the good of the country.
The "boys" in girls bathroom don't want the girls in the bathroom. . . that is a some conservative delusion. . . probably brought on because if certain thinkers try to 'reimagine' themselves in a girls bathroom. . . and the 'terror' they would cause there.
Transsexuals take the abuse from some conservatives heterosexuals because they HAVE TO. It is the clearest indicator that they are genuinely who they are. Because otherwise if they could live as a conservative they would. . . it would make their lives so much easier. . . but they can't live as conservative . . .because of the 'dress' they intend to wear.
More conspiracy theories. Why don't you listen to Trump's own former DOJ officials who say that it was Trump trying to weaponize the DOJ?
Trump tried to use the DOJ in his effort to overturn election, ex-DOJ officials said
Report points to new evidence of Trump weaponizing the Justice Dept .
How Trump Would Weaponize the Justice Department
As President, Trump Demanded Investigations of Foes. He Often Got Them
You guys must be exhausted after days of non stop projectioning.
you didnt need to go any further
I think in Newsome's case this just boils down to a guilty conscience and paranoia.
Details are needed as to reached opinion.
California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) has called for a special session in the state's legislature to prepare legal defenses against President-elect Donald Trump.
The heck with that Gavin.
Secede baby, secede!
What an absolute pussy "Any Twosome" Newsom is.................
And there is the "Go to": Mocking. When proper wording fails. Just mock (alot).
Yeah, such a manly 'man'
And now I suppose you are going to try a tell us that the left never engaged in mocking behaviors.
I am telling the collective you that we can ALL be better than mocking! It goes without 'saying.' Turn the page, already. Kids are 'watching.'
I just wonder why there wasn't all the outrage at mocking of one side for the last 8 years.
Be best. We all can be disciplined and principled. I can't fix others, but I can fix myself.
Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. Countless lives ae being wasted, destroyed, and suppressed because of this ridiculous 'marriage' between people who no longer RESPECT each other. I don't know if it can happen, because there is the matter of resources and domain division. We the People can be the 'deciders.'
As long as I get my Californian almonds..........................
Like Texas threatens to after any democrat is elected POTUS? Difference is that California is not trying to run away (or hide claiming bone spurs), it is preparing to fight.
And everyone is shaking in their boots. Let the shithole stay a shithole.
Daylight just shone through the blackness and exposed what was hiding in the shadows.
Only the shadow knows
Well, . . . that makes two with knowledge of this.
Tis the season for the treason. Are you advocating that or just presenting some whacko's plan?
Whatever that means.
So will liberals call California traitors for going against the United states government? or does that only count if republicans do it?
My guess is that Donald Trump will not be Gavin Newsom's president because Newsom doesnt like traitors.
You actually believe Gavin is dumb enough not to know who his president is? You may very well be right about that.
If Donald trump isn't Gavin Newsoms president, then Gavin Newsome isn't an American and is just another piece of Shit
The traitor isnt going to be "my" president either. If you dont like it tough shit.
I will go as far to say that goes for any American. ''
Not liking mean tweets is not an excuse to say the president is not their president.
Sounds like election denial
The traitor isnt going to be "my" president either
Deny it all you want. It won't change the facts.
Deny what ? I dont deny he will be president of the United States (god save us) , but I'm under no obligation to say out loud he is "my" president. He is a piece of human crap and last Tuesday didnt change that at all.
Bigtime.
Trump will certainly be Gavin's president when he starts begging for federal funds to help take care of the cesspool he has turned most of California into!
The Federal government should withhold all Federal funds and grants to any city that does not cooperate with the federal government and that includes ICE and INS, honor holds and retainers and no more sanctuary cities.
President Joe Biden is president for now. As to "presidents" in general . . . they obey the constitution and it can be challenged and interpreted in courts of law.
See 4.1.11.
We're all Americans! It's birthright citizenship and naturalization.
Not if you are born is south Africa, then you have to earn it. like Musk did.
I suggest the nation ARCHIVE all the past trump lies of the past and RESET the COUNT on the lies about to be spouted at "1." The good news if this nation won't have to wait until Donald takes office we can RESET it during this transitional period. As he is the "president in waiting."
BTW, the lies are just for aesthetics, as apparently the new majority of trumpists don't care about them. our focus must be on trump/trumpists policies right and/or wrong.
California is home to 'liberal' children washed up on its shores from the 'waves' off some conservative 'shores.' They 'ran away' from home, because they were unwanted, under-appreciated, and could not abide 'strict daddyism.'
Relevance is lacking there.
SEE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN COURT. If abuse if what is to come then abuse is what is to be returned. And if justice is not to be had in court. . . then the nation will be declared 'inoperable.'
As for withholding federal funds . . . well that will be interesting seeing that California pays into the funds. Also, there is that 'thing' in the law some conservatives used in a court of law to get rid of section 5 of the voting rights act which says states can not be singled out for unfair treatment when it is determined to be such. Apparently, California does not need a "daddy" to run it like some states. . . 'Daddy, make _____ behave.'
States don't pay anything to the federal government.
When did CA solve it's budget problems?
Are you referring to the homeless rate there?
Please explain O knowledgeable one where the federal government gets its funds. . . . Please proceed.
I am referring to citizens thrown out of the bible belt and such homes who transit to California for the compassion their former families withholds from them. Those folks getting out of the 'cold,' 'cold,' and 'coldest' world of strict parenting for SAMENESS sake.
And I thought it was the vibe, weather and drugs.
That too. Big cities have an attraction factor built in. They are open and where world-class affairs and interests happen.
But afterwards y'alls children. . . they 'want' to go back home. Many will be successful at what they do outside of the 'belt' and many will unfortunately fall into crime, misery, destruction, and death on the streets of America's largest cities. Take back your collective children and love them as humanly possible. Or, at least, stop faulting large metropolises for being kind to 'visitiors,' 'guests,' and new, "chronic" arrivals.
No state payments.
"The vast majority of people who are homeless in California are from California — and most are still living in the same county where they lost their housing, according to a recent large-scale survey of unhoused Californians conducted by the UCSF Benioff Homelessness and Housing Initiative. The survey found 90% of participants were from California (meaning they lived in California when they became homeless)"
Who knew that CA was part of the uncompassionate Bible Belt.
So. . . the point of your sharing is still not plain. Oh, I see the collective YOU misunderstood this: '. . . well that will be interesting seeing that California pays into the funds. . . '
Probably 'everybody' else got it. But not "YOU." So let me rewrite it this way for your edification: "'. . . well that will be interesting seeing that Californians pay into the funds. . . '
We should slow-down (appropriately) to bring everybody along on the journey, for sure. /s
Please clarify the quote above (if you can). BTW, 'nobody' said it is easy to live in California because it can be quite expensive, but California does have programs which help immensely. Additionally, nobody stated that 'all' the homeless in California are from outside the state. Don't presume.
Unfortunately, mental illness is a deeper, less responsive problem. (Another discussion for another day.)
I tried to clarify the sources of federal revenue for you.
Clarify? The survey found the vast majority of CA homelessness (incl youth homelessness) aren't coming in from out of state, they are from CA.
It was not needed. I have a proper understanding of the taxing system in this country for all of my adult life. You can have the last word, if you wish.
The rest are coming from somewhere else. AS I AM SURE YOU ARE AWARE people come to California and can't afford it . . . for reasons/details beyond the scope of this article. . . so do not waste time belaboring the point. The state is/can be expensive. Those who come for "sun, surf, and fun or because they can't tolerate the cold elsewhere end up on the street. Those who come to showcase their talents and skills in Southern California who are not successful end up on the street. Those who get caught up in drugs. . .end up on the street. And so on and so forth.
But many, many, of them (percentage wise) clearly started out from small towns OUTSIDE this large state, because they get 'flushed out' or would whether live in squalor in California than go back 'home' in other states. Those adults and kids are the homeless one's other states need to show some compassion for and let California get some relief from their higher opinion they apparently hold of themselves.
You can have the last word.
What's the approximate percentage?
State of Homelessness in California: Fact Sheet
Author: Claudia Galliani
WHO IS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN CALIFORNIA?
The people experiencing homelessness in California are locals. 90% of the people experiencing homelessness in
California became homeless while living in the state, 75% currently live in the same county where they fell into
homelessness, and 66% were born in California.1
Consistent with national trends,2 individuals who are Black/African American, Indigenous/Native American, and Native
Hawaiian/Pacific Islanders are overrepresented groups in the population of Californians experiencing homelessness.3
Latinx Californians are experiencing an alarming increase of homelessness; while homelessness in California rose by
6.2 % from 2020 to 2023, homelessness among Latinx Californians increased by 22% over the same period.4
In Los Angeles County, the population of Latinx people experiencing homelessness increased 4.9% from 2022 to 2023
(1,412 person increase) while the American Indian/Alaskan Native population experiencing homelessness increased by
18.5% (113 person increase) during that time period.5
Black people have experienced, and continue experiencing, systemic racism in the form of disproportionate levels
of policing, housing segregation, employment discrimination, and the ongoing disinvestment from Black
communities, which have led to their significant overrepresentation in the population experiencing homelessness.6
People who are Black/African American make up only 7.6% of L.A. County’s population, yet account for 31.7% of the
people experiencing homelessness in the County.7
Regarding adults ages 18+ experiencing homelessness in California, 69% are cisgender men, 30% are cisgender
women, 1% are transgender, nonbinary, or gender non-conforming individuals.8
Among Transition Age Youth
(ages 18-24 not living with minor children), the numbers are 64% cisgender men, 30% cisgender women, and 6%
transgender, nonbinary, and gender non-conforming individuals.9
California reports the highest number of unaccompanied youth in the nation (9,590); this is a third of all
unaccompanied youth (32%) and half (52%) of unsheltered unaccompanied youth in the nation.1
HPRI-State-of-Homelessness-in-California_Rnd4.pdf
You get the last word, if you wish.
Yes, most of CA's homeless are from CA. You should inform yourself with info before commenting 4.1.16
That is my comment above at 4.1.16., there are "runaway' children from homes in the bible belt and beyond in California (namely, California reports the highest number of unaccompanied youth in the nation (9,590); this is a third of all unaccompanied youth (32%) and half (52%) of unsheltered unaccompanied youth in the nation.1)
So don't try to lecture me about commenting. It is clear they are here in California, because I see and can talk to them at one time or another when I give them help. As for percentages hell, 1 percent of a whole can be quite an influx of people itself depending on the whole.
Deal with it. The Bible Belt and other states can/should/ought to keep their own 'troubled' youth (as they call them) so that California does not have to feel and care for them. Or at the least, stop trying to mock the very state that is trying to help make life better for those who are unable to live truly free where some conservatives live and judge them as unworthy of equality.
(I had to break my 'last word' policy because of what a snide retort being made.)
I don't have anything to deal with in CA, you do.
I don't live in the Bible Belt either.
Runaways are usually running from their family, town, not a state.
Begs the question that the collective "You" even bothered. My point has been made, and will be further made appropriately. . . . Red state leaders should make policies that guarantee MAX freedoms for their kids and adults in a democratic republic. Parents should not be attacking youths and adults either for their positive choices or be a life-draining influence or run their kids out of state over 'strict parenting' ideologies which won't let them freely prosper or have a good quality of life.
Begging or not, I don't see the question.
Begging the question. . . is not a question. And, since you are in D.C. according to your own comments in recent past. . . I don't presume to know about the homeless rate of any kind in our nation's capital.
Do you feel the same way about every MAGA claiming that Biden is not POTUS?
I normally don't respond to an obvious trolling question, buy yes, i do. do you have a list of these MAGA's?
Looked plain as day to me
Is that an obvious or odious question, or both?
That's very important to some folks,[✘]
So when do you leave the country?
Not trolling, right wingers have shown a penchant for hypocritical beliefs (bad if democrats do it, just fine if republicans do). So just trying to evaluate your stance.
The hell with traitors. If they are going against the government they are insurrectionists.
Uh, arent insurrections supposed to be illegal ? Using the laws to protect your states interests wouldnt be an insurrection.
The insurrection around the Civil War didnt happen when the south threatened to secede, it happened when they illegally seceded.
Unless they are MAGA and the date is January 6. Then they’re patriots!
I have no problem playing by the same rules. Do you?
Not a bit. Let me know when armed liberals storm the Capitol, ok?
It's called, "resistance" and as long as it is constitutional it can be appropriately done. Now, we're wait and see just how much the constitution really means to trumpists and their conservative majority SCOTUS.
Let us know when armed Californians attack the Capitol.
Lol. Democrats have learned zero.
How can people who already know everything possibly learn anything else? S/
They seem to be stuck in deep denial that the fault lies entirely upon them and their radical left policies and practices. It may be a long time before they regain any type of political power.
Yep, it is that obvious....
We learn quite a bit thanks very much about trumpist. (And will continue to learn it too.)
Did you want democrats to learn to send a mob to the Capitol building, attack police officers, break into the building and threaten public officials, then just call them tourists? Would you consider that learning from the republicans?
Gavin may think that Kamala's loss and actions like this will help him grab the Dem leadership before 2028. I think that Dems are likely to reject another culture warrior from California to rebuild the party after the Harris reject. Newsom. Hell, Gavin is even underwater in CA in favorability polling.
Just came back from running errands and every one of the Harris for president signs have been removed already, so she has no hopes of running again the people who supported her are already disgusted with her, so Newsom may have a chance as long as he can prove he is not another Harris.
Maybe they’re simply the old fashioned kind of Americans who actually accept the results of elections.
The left doesn't seem to be accepting the results of this election. Isn't plotting against Trump this early on a bit disturbing?
'Plotting 'against' the traitor'
Fucking hilarious
How do you figure? Harris called him and congratulated him, conceded on national television, and has made zero allegations of election fraud. UNLIKE Trump in 2020.
What plotting?
I accept the result of this election. All is 'well.' The past Crooked Donald activities are archived (not erased). And the new book on President Donald Trump is OPEN.
It is on President Donald Trump to write the pages starting right now.
You mean like those who still have the Hillary bumper stickers on their cars?
Please tell that to Newsome who is already gearing up California for obstructing all things Trump in court. I especially love contesting "immigration" as Biden used Garland/DOJ to sue any states that tried to enforce their borders, ( he also used the National Guard to try and stop them- by cutting down all wire that was put up in Texas) and stem illegal immigration. Seems that the federal government only controls immigration laws when a Democrat is in charge.
Also tell that to the Dems and House and Senate who have plans in place to not certify the election. This will be 2016 all over again. They don't have the numbers to do it in 2016; just like Republicans didn't in 2020; but it won't stop them from trying again.
No I don’t mean that. We’re talking about signs. Bumper stickers can be hard to remove - much harder than a sign.
Sure. Next time he’s over at my place for tea and scones, I’ll pass it on.
Nope. That’s not the purpose. But more MAGA paranoia does not surprise me.
Who are you referring to specifically? Because there’s this:
Dems say they will certify a Trump victory — even the ones who think the 14th Amendment disqualifies him
But even if they did refuse, Republicans would hardly be anything other than hypocrites if they suggest they don’t have the right to - after spending 4 years defending January 6.
Trumpists know how feckless the public can be at times. Back, back and forth, back, back and—. Also, a word about culture wars. . . let's stop hurting other people SIMPLY FOR POLITICAL GAIN as it begs the question that others pay the same amount of taxes to live here as some conservatives. We can RESET at this 'opening.'
Hey Gavin, you worthless piece of shit, instead of calling a special session to whine about the bad orange man, How about you count the fucking ballots for the election we just had, 2 days past the election and you aren't even at 60% yet? you are the poster boy for incompetence.
That's okay, Gavin will just comb and toss his wavy locks, smile at the camera, and tell his supporters to just keep drinking the kool-aid!
Jealous?
Not in the least.
This is crazy to me. Florida counts its ballots in like three hours. California somehow gets slower and more inefficient every cycle. They've somehow managed to get slower with technology.
Maybe those are the jobs that the left claim Americans don't want to do? 10'000 illegals who don't speak English counted Californias ballots.
“10'000 illegals who don't speak English counted Californias ballots….”
Improbable.
It was humor, Maybe you have a reasonable explanation on why the state that houses Silcon Valley is 3 days in now and still at 56% vote count? lazy or incompetence?
“It was humor, Maybe you have a reasonable explanation…”
Funny stuff, by george…
Perhaps being the most populous state and perhaps due diligence in ensuring the integrity of the vote, lest anyone have a beef, much less a better system given the enacted procedures.
That is an excuse, not an explanation, and a piss poor excuse at that, California has 20% more population than Texas, Texas has been done for over a day, Florida had their results in about 4 to 5 hours. So i will ask again, Lazy or incompetence?
Arizona is still counting theirs.
Arizona still can’t tell us who won their 11 electoral votes. That is simply amazing.
Do you live in Arizona?
They had an exceptionally long ballet this cycle.
No Sir. But have family in Prescott Valley.
It is what it is. Call the California Secretary of State 1500 11th St, Sacramento, CA 95814 Phone 916 653 6814.
For fact sake.
Florida has, for years, developed a reputation for fucking up its ballot counts. California does not. I don’t think Florida is any position to brag about its elections. Sometimes, you have to choose between doing a thing quickly or doing it accurately.
When has that happened?
, you have to choose between doing a thing quickly or doing it accurately.
doesn't seem like accuracy has much to do with it at all.
" “Our priority is trying to maximize participation of actively registered voters,” said Democratic Assemblymember Marc Berman, who authored the 2021 bill that permanently switched the state to all-mail elections. “What that means is things are a little slower. But in a society that wants immediate gratification, I think our democracy is worth taking a little time to get it right and to create a system where everyone can participate.”
Well to be fair, here are the reasons for California's slow vote count according to LAist
Honestly I don't mind efforts to give people more ways to vote, but if we are committed to that should we not also be committed to making sure those ways don't create additional means to cheat or make it difficult/impossible to track cheating? If 90% of votes cast are mail-in ballots and all of those require signature matching, how do we possibly have enough experts on signature matching to count them even by Dec 13? I submit that a proper system of voter ID either at registration and/or during same day voter registration/submission of provisional ballot could be setup to be much more accurate and certainly faster than attempting to signature match 7 million mail-in ballots. This could make the system more secure and ensure that only citizens enjoy the privilege of voting, protecting that privilege that many even go so far as to characterize as a "right".
As an amusing aside - I watched the election unfold on CBS and for hours they refused to call several of the States like North Carolina, Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin with 88%, 90%, 94% ,98% precincts reporting when Trump was carrying a 3 or 4% lead and their own analysts were projecting a heavy lean in the remaining votes for Trump. Yet within seconds of the polls closing in California with 0.0% reporting they called the State for Harris. So why the hell do we even bother to count the votes at least for President in California?
If it was really important to politicians and those who run elections in California to expand the vote, inspire better turnout, maximize registered voter participation, and ensure that every citizen's voice was heard, California would eliminate the winner take all electoral votes like Nebraska or Maine and award electoral votes along the lines of the congressional districts.
That's because they don't bother counting the ones from predominately democratic counties.
You figured it out.
Actually, there are so few of them now, they were the first to be completely counted.
More meth heads and scuzz balls than Democrats there and probably alleged service members.
lol
They were still only at 79% counted earlier this evening.
Impossible
No the meth heads and scuzz balls are democrats.
I am referring to Arizona not California and they have officially called the election for Trump. Arizona is officially a red state again.
Arizona - great place to avoid
[✘]
Have you ever even been here? Somehow I don't think so.
Believe whatever you want
Likewise.
Same here
California has been gifted with advantages that no other state enjoys, an optimal climate and hundreds of miles of beachfronts that has served as a magnet for internal immigration since it's founding. Not to mention a technology industry that literally prints money for the state and drives its economy.
Yet somehow, despite having the most advantageous set up in the world, California is for the first time in history somehow losing people to other states and running a 50 billion dollar deficit. It's almost impossible to be that bad at governing. A monkey pushing random buttons would probably have done better. Yet Newsom's worried about the federal government??
No one in the country needs to worry about their own house more than Newsom.
And the people are getting tired of the bullshit, they just replaced the pro criminal district attorney with a pro law enforcement one in LA this election.
Yep, as the song goes thank God and Greyhound he's gone! Now if New York would get rid of Alvin Bragg and Letitia James that would be even better!
Truth be told, yea, some things do not work. . . I see some 'crazy people' walking around the community for going on ten years now ('they' be homeless/living under overpasses and such). The good news is California is attempting to care for its people instead of SHIPPING them out to other states. It's a noble effort some don't care to do.
It blows my mind when people say things like this. Have you met people who work in a DA’s office? I have, and I can’t think of one who was “pro criminal.”
Yes I have and the worthless fuck was pro-criminal.
They dumped the Mayor of San Francisco this week for a law and order outsider.
More than 70% of CA voters, including a majority in every county, voted to increase penalties for theft and drug crimes.
There. Change that we all can learn to appreciate.
If sh-t gets 'abused' —change it.
Yep - Prop 36, something Governor Newsom fought to defeat despite the significant increases in organized smash and grab crimes and other organized theft rings that paid criminals to go into stores in masse and individually steal just under the level which could result in arrest and conviction. Since 2021 S.F. has become the smash and grab capital of the world .
This is not a partisan issue. It impacts all of us in California. Such crime is up all over the State, I have seen it myself here in the Sacramento area.
“It blows my mind when people say things like this. Have you met people who work in a DA’s office? I have, and I can’t think of one who was “pro criminal.”
He didn’t say people in the DA office, he said the DA specifically.
My understanding is the people that work in the DA office are rejoicing because now they will be able to do their jobs and prosecute criminals.
Such a novel idea, eh?
Good to hear SF voted out London Breed. Hope her fellow progressive liberal circus city council will be replaced as well. To say Lurie has his work cut out for him is a huge understatement. I wish him luck.
Maybe this will help stem the growth of Urban deserts where there are no retailers because they can't afford to operate because of theft.
Hope so!
Another reason I am so glad I live next door in rural SE Arizona.
How is that different? His whole career has been in law enforcement. He’s been a cop and a DA. It’s all he’s ever done.
You can say he’s bad at his job (and I would expect you to support that opinion with evidence) but to say he’s “pro criminal” is next-level stupid.
They do prosecute criminals. What do you imagine goes on in LA County’s 38 courthouses every day?
I agree that nobody but criminals are "pro-criminal", but LA County DA Gascon's policies were quite fairly characterized as "pro-criminal" by his opponent Nathan Hochman who unseated him in the election by a landslide 62% to 38% vote.
Indeed many of Gascon's deputy DA's / prosecutors are happy to see him go , and in fact the vast majority had voted to recall Gascon previously.
Hochman adds:
Again, his policies can be justly characterized as "pro-criminal"
And the people of LA County strongly agreed, as did millions more Californians in the passage of Prop 36.
I don’t live in california but i’m glad for the people in LA county that gascon is out. I do wonder if hochman will be allowed to run the DA office as he sees fit, or will he run into endless roadblocks put up by county, city, and state officials?
I actually did not vote for or against Proposition 36 2024, because I did not wish to see drug laws bust citizens and jail them for minor "offense" in a manner reminisce of the "3" strikes law in California. I left it blank (and up to others to decide). What is interesting is this same Proposition 36 2012 reversed the "3" strikes law. And here it is again somewhat modified, it would seem or maybe not.
Well he is an elected official, so I assume he will have autonomy as mandated by the voters. We’ll see. If those other officials mess with the will of the people too much, they risk being shown the door just like Gascon.
‘job (and I would expect you to support that opinion with evidence’
He lost to his opponent 62 to 38 percent. A landslide even more so than the one Trump gave Harris. The people that matter believed he was bad at his job.
I hope you read 8.1.15. That will answer all of your questions.
That’s a metric, but I wouldn’t say popular lay opinion is the best metric. Me, I’m a fan of proving cause and effect, but whatever. I’m not invested in defending his work as D.A. I thought Jackie Lacey (his predecessor) was pretty good and deserved reelection.
My only point is there is no justification for declaring him to be “pro criminal.”
I did. I’m also responding to it.
That’s more fair. However, there is a slippery slope to this debate. We can argue that any response to crime short of summary torture and execution for any crime from jaywalking to murder is “pro criminal.” The impulse to seek alternative responses is, in my opinion, laudable. That doesn’t mean it’s always effective, but neither is simply imprisoning everyone and throwing away the key. For example, most of our major gangs are run from prison.
That same population elected him over Jackie Lacey, his predecessor, who was a perfectly good DA and seeking re-election. The people are not always the best judges of these things.
We have thrown all sorts of sentencing schemes at crime. We are very good at putting people in jail. America has more people in jail than anyone in the world. Our incarceration rate is exceeded only by oppressive or chaotic countries like El Salvador, Cuba, or Rwanda. No developed, democratic country on earth has more people in prison per capita than the United States, but we still have tons of crime. So simply locking people up is not always the answer.
This is probably a different conversation, but Prop 36 was marketed as solving a problem it doesn’t really do much for, by demonizing Prop 47, which didn’t really cause the problems that were blamed on it. Still, I’m fine with Prop 36 (even though I worked in the Public Defender’s office for a time). I actually think it strikes a reasonable middle ground between reform and punishment.
Even though I’ve done quite a bit of criminal defense work, I voted for 36. It still allows for treatment programs, probation, and other alternatives to incarceration, but it says you only get so many chances at those alternatives, and then we lock you up. I think that’s fair and reasonable. A lot of people getting a break in court are just jobbing the system. Some may actually benefit from rehabilitative programs, but they won’t actually stick it out unless failure means a promise of jail time. Same with repeat offenders.
I don’t think it will be as bad as its opponents fear, but it’s also not the panacea its promoters marketed it to be.
Our existing laws - including Prop 47 - are not the reason we have these dramatic group smash and grab robberies. What we have there is a new way of committing crime that no one really considered before. It took time for law enforcement to respond effectively - because it was novel, not because they didn’t care. Task forces have been created to identify and arrest these perpetrators. It may take a year or more to catch them, but contrary to what you may hear, they are being prosecuted.
Agreed. I thought so as well and voted yes on it too. I think Hochman’s approach will strike such a balance as well if his website and the comments of all the deputy prosecutors who supported his campaign are true.
That was the big tell-tale for me as an observer, that as many as 97-98% of the nearly 900 prosecutors wanted Gascon out and supported Hochman. They even tried to have him recalled a couple times. The department lost something like 250 prosecutors under Gascon’s leadership because most could not in good conscience operate in the manner he demanded. With public safety at risk, that level of disfunction sure seems unacceptable to me. There are many videos of those long time prosecutors explaining what they were faced with.
Any boss or leader with that kind of track record with employees and coworkers who have worked in the department for decades can’t be a good sign, and a tell-tale sign that things had to change.
First let me acknowledge this, what a clear and reasonable response.
For my part, I was 'conflicted' to read about the "3" strikes law practical reality; but, then watching "snatch and grab" robberies on the news. . . is reminisce of experiencing a home-invasion. . . the storeowners' and their personnel are overran and there is theft of merchandise and potentially damage to store structures and "precious" accessories can be damaged beyond repair.
"Snatch and grabs" are wrong in every sense of it. Thankfully, people are not hurt often times. That is the positive to me. Nothing else about the act can be positive.
Second and lastly, had it just been about "the snatch" I would have voted for the proposition wholeheartedly, because I can understandable "see" the makings of the loophole that organized crime could drive through in the law. But, when they tied drug usage to it. . . that is a big "red flag" because it is certainly known to authorities that drug-related charges can accrue relatively fast—on drug users ignorant of the law on the books or whom 'just get caught up in the net.'
'Now if New York would get rid of Alvin Bragg and Letitia James that would be even better!'
Makes no sense.
Why, for prosecuting guilty scumbags?
Well, there is a song that goes a little something like this; It's Hard Out Here For A PIMP . But it's gon' be al' -ight . Y'all can let some conservative children come home again. . .if you really, really, care though!
The country is nervous as California organizes a degenerate parade to intimidate.
The traitor trump and his new criminal enterprise 'administration' is a good start BF
It isn’t BF. Give it a rest
I wasn't talking to you.