Celebrities React to Donald Trump Election Win
By: Abid Rahman (The Hollywood Reporter)
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Let the Democrat dooming begin.
Hollywood went to bed on Tuesday night dreading Donald Trump winning the 2024 presidential election as the former president began racking up state after state. But there were perhaps still hopes of a 2020 style reversal on Wednesday morning, if the big swing states in the much-vaunted 'Blue Wall' came through. Alas, the hopes were dashed after Wisconsin was called for Trump, clinching him his 270 electoral votes.
Trump wasted no time in declaring victory, hitting the stage at his victory party at Mar-a-Lago at 2:30 a.m. ET. In his typical meandering and blustering style, the former president claimed a "magnificent" victory. Harris did not speak as election night turned into Wednesday morning and supporters gathered for what was supposed to be a celebration at her alma mater, Howard University. Her campaign co-chair Cedric Richmond told the crowd she will address the nation later Wednesday.
The reaction to Trump's victory was swift on social media, even before the pivotal state of Pennsylvania was called, with prominent Democrats and Hollywood figures lamenting the state of affairs and making clear their fears for the future under a second Trump administration.
Some reactions have been loud but brief — such as Cardi B's Instagram Story saying, "I hate y'all bad" — and others, like Oscar-nominated filmmaker and activist Adam McKay, didn't hold back. On X, he delivered an excoriating take down of the Democrat establishment. "Who would have guessed lying about Biden's cognitive health for 2 yrs, refusing to do an open convention for a new nominee, never mentioning public healthcare & embracing fracking, the Cheneys & a yr long slaughter of children in Gaza wouldn't be a winning strategy? Anyone with half a brain?" McKay wrote.
In a statement, former President Barack Obama wrote in part, "As I said on the campaign trail, America has been through a lot over the last few years — from a historic pandemic and price hikes resulting from the pandemic, to rapid change and the feeling a lot of folks have that, no matter how hard they work, treading water is the best they can do. Those conditions have created headwinds for democratic incumbents around the world, and last night showed that America is not immune. The good news is that these problems are solvable — but only if we listen to each other, and only if we abide by the core constitutional principles and democratic norms that made this country great."
The Don't Look Up director added, "But I thought liberals' whole thing is being smart? It's not? They actually just blindly cheer the parade of rickety optics wrapped up in New York Times fonts that is the modern Dem Party? Well at least it's time for the dusty hacks & careerists to spread their feathers wide post election and blame Russia and third party candidates. That should fix things."
Bette Midler, who has been a vocal critic of Trump over the years, quoted journalist and essayist H.L. Mencken. She posted on X before deleting her account: "When a candidate for public office faces the voters he does not face men of sense; he faces a mob of men whose chief distinguishing mark is the fact that they are quite incapable of weighing ideas, or even of comprehending any save the most elemental — men whose whole thinking is done in terms of emotion, and whose dominant emotion is dread of what they cannot understand. So confronted, the candidate must either bark with the pack or be lost… All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum… The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
Jamie Lee Curtis wrote, in part: "So the results are in. Many will be celebrating, possibly even gloating over their victory. Many will be stunned and sad with the terrible feelings of the loss. That is the same result despite who wins because that's what America and democracy looks like. Has always looked like. So what does it mean? It means a sure return to a more restrictive, some fear draconian time. Many fear their rights will be impeded and denied. Many, minority groups and young people will be afraid. Gay and trans people will be more afraid. We know that many women will now find it difficult to get the reproductive healthcare that they need and deserve. For all those people there will be those who will help you. Me included."
Jeff Bezos celebrated Trump's win by writing: "Big congratulations to our 45th and now 47th President on an extraordinary political comeback and decisive victory. No nation has bigger opportunities. Wishing @realDonaldTrump all success in leading and uniting the America we all love."
When a Twitter account told Zachary Levi, who had endorsed Trump in the election, "The only consolation here is that you will never be part of mainstream Hollywood after this. You can make movies with Mel Gibson and Dennis Quaid," the Shazam! actor tweeted in response, "Oh, it's all gravy, Roger! My goal has always been to leave it at some point anyway, and build a better system that actually values and compensates the artists more than enriching far too many executives that, by and large, compromise the creative integrity of the art whilst taking the lion share of the proceeds, which they don't deserve. In addition, I plan on creating a studio that protects and promotes certified organic, human-made content, while mainstream Hollywood continues to replace all of its workforce with AI, simply to maximize their dwindling profits. Enjoy reporting on the sidelines of the Hollywood apocalypse!"
Kerry Washington, who spoke at the DNC this election, wrote of the results, "It was not a mirage. Swipe through. Thank you to @blackliturgies and @wetheurban for these pearls of love, truth, wisdom and humanity. Be kind to yourself today. There is more work to do."
Billie Eilish took to her Instagram Story to react to the results, writing, "it's a war on women."
David Sirota, a journalist and former Bernie Sanders adviser who co-wrote the Oscar-nominated screenplay for Don't Look Up with McKay, was his usual blunt self on social media, posting on X: "This is a very bad night. Some of us spent years warning Dems to take working-class politics more seriously & to not tout neocons. We did so in hopes of avoiding this & yet we were vilified as traitors by Dem elites & liberal pundits. There's a lesson here."
Speaking on his Breakfast Club radio show Wednesday morning, Charlamagne Tha God, who backed Kamala Harris and even hosted an audio town hall for the vice president, accepted the result and chalked it up to the economy and the border more than "racism, sexism, homophobia, antisemitism."
"Democrats are going to be looking for someone to blame. Let me be the first to tell you it's not just one thing," he said. "I personally feel like Donald Trump speaks to people's grievances better than Democrats do. I know people are going to talk about misinformation and the dumbing down of society, I understand all of that, but you don't have to be intelligent to know you can't pay your bills. You don't have to be intelligent to know you can't afford groceries. People will forget what you did, they will forget what you said, but they will never forget how you made them feel. … I don't think it's fair to just chalk up Trump winning to racism, sexism, homophobia, anti-semitism, yes, he tapped into all of the worst things America has ever had to offer and there are a lot of people who agree his rhetoric and voted for him because of those reasons, but I truly believe most people voted for him because they want more money in their pockets and they want to feel safe. … I'm not saying Donald Trump is going to fix all of that. I'm saying Donald Trump has made people feel like he will fix all of that in a way that Democrats haven't. Once again, don't just chalk it up to racism, sexism. OK, I believe those things play a role, but at the end of the day, it's the economy stupid and Democrats might just be really out of touch with what everyday Americans are feeling."
An exasperated Christina Applegate also wrote on X: "Why? Give me your reasons why????? My child is sobbing because her rights as a woman may be taken away. Why?And if you disagree , please unfollow me." She continued in a separate post: "Please unfollow me if you voted against female rights. Against disability rights. Yeah that. Unfollow me because what you did is unreal. Don't want followers like this. So yeah. Done."
Black List founder Franklin Leonard was particularly active on social media on election night. Among his tweets, Leonard wrote on X, "Too many of y'all appear to have forgotten how absolutely wild the Trump years were." And early on Wednesday morning he tweeted, "I don't have certainty about what just happened, and I'm reasonably certain no one else does either."
David Simon, the creator of The Wire , Treme and The Deuce , aimed his fury at the X platform in particular. On Tuesday night, Simon tweeted that "hellsite" X would become "a rancid cesspool of lies and disinformation tonight and through the next several days. It was purchased and restructured for this precise purpose. Expect nothing less than a projectile vomiting of hype, falsehoods and petulant rage. And, of course, keep moving forward and toward the light. We can do this." On Wednesday morning, Simon had seemingly announced he was leaving the platform: "Dormant account under present management of this social media site. Will return to post any subsequent platform, but otherwise unmonitored. God bless us all. Even the scrotes and shitheels."
Simon's longtime artistic collaborator Wendell Pierce was also active on election night. The Wire and Treme actor was in a sobering mood, and among his many posts, he said, "Elections have consequences. The Supreme Court will be changed for a generation. I'll never see a moderate court again in my lifetime. Alito and Thomas will step down and Trump will appoint 40 year old partisans to the bench. The damage he is about to inflict on our institutions the next 2 years will be irreparable."
A distraught Yvette Nicole Brown posted about Sherrod Brown losing his senate race in Ohio as well as Trump's dominant win. The Community actress tweeted: "Sherrod Brown losing in Ohio is a lost to Ohio and our nation. This is a disgrace at a level I can't even quantify. My home state of Ohio chose a criminal. And it looks like this nation is choosing a criminal. AmeriKKKa is showing out tonight. Just showing out."
13 Reasons Why star Brandon Flynn took to his Instagram Story to share that he was "finally" getting out of bed and feeling "rough." "To those with Big Feelings, Big Fears and Big anxieties-who might think drugs and alcohol will solve your problems today… they won't. I'm sending you love and encouragement that just for today, you are not alone and you don't need to drink or drug. Call a friend, go to a meeting, scream and cry."
John Cusack was similarly appalled, writing on X in a post that has now been deleted, "The fact that the country would choose to destroy itself by voting in a convicted felon rapist and Nazi is a sign of deep nihilism. To put it mildly."
Philip Pullman, the British author behind the His Dark Materials books that have been adapted into movies and series, wrote on X, "Goodbye, America. It was nice knowing you."
Former Desus and Mero co-host Desus Nice tweeted about the result, "America having one of those gender reveals that starts a wildfire that burns for like 30 days."
Glee star Kevin McHale was very despondent and fearful of what a Trump victory meant. "Supreme Court gone for the rest of my lifetime. Ultra-conservative evangelical bigotry, xenophobia, racism is the mandate," McHale tweeted.
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Great job giving the MAGA gang more power, America. Wonder how many folks are seeing this and STILL saying "But but but at least he's not a Black woman!" in the privacy of their homes tonight. My heart is broken https://t.co/Qiuh1PKTsd
— Sophia Bush (@SophiaBush) November 6, 2024
I cannot fathom the feeling of the women who came forward about their sexual assault at the hands of Trump. Seeing millions of people vote for their abuser.
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so the election ISN'T rigged????
— Andy Cohen (@Andy) November 6, 2024
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There's a sign you can see in many shops that sell beautiful but fragile items: LOVELY TO LOOK AT, DELIGHTFUL TO HOLD, BUT ONCE YOU BREAK IT, THEN IT'S SOLD.
You can say the same about democracy.
— Stephen King (@StephenKing) November 6, 2024
My breakfast was a package of Double Stuffed Oreos and a cigarillo, for those considering a wellness check.
— Paul Walter Hauser (@PWHIsAWrestler) November 6, 2024
But it is also true that we had not understood that Americans have changed. The majority have now made it clear that they want isolationism. " America first". Gone is much of what we valued in America- her nobility & moral commitment to help our allies and address the wrongs…
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The MAGAs will call this liberal tears, of course, but I kind of liked the different points of view in this article.
BTW, Elon Musk's daughter is leaving the country because Trump won. At least someone in that family has principles.
You mean Musk's trans daughter?
She has left already? Can you provide a link?
So, she hasn't left yet.
Thank you Sir.
The daughter he has disowned and trashes in public. One of how many different children from how many baby mamas?
John
The democrats lost portions of the working class vote to Trump because of their focus on "celebrities" rather than that working class
Many of the working class wanted to hear what Harris was going to do for them rather than a concert in the closing days of the campaign
I hope you're happy that we elected the most unfit candidate in American history into office. That is not any celebrities fault, it is the fault of the people who voted for anyone other than Harris.
I dont have any doubt at all that history will judge Trump the worst president we have ever had and it doesnt even matter what he does in his second term.
I explained on one of your many other articles that I would rather have had Harris in the White House and the republicans controlling the house and senate, but you don't pay a lot of attention to what others say in response to your pontifications.
The reason that Trump was elected is that the "non-party committed, independent and first time voters felt that Harris had abandoned them for identity politics.
Trump did not squeak out a win , he crushed Harris and it was a race that the democrats could have and probably should have won, but they got too full of themselves and running "against Trump" rather than for the people that they represent.
I agree with you that Trump will be judged as one of if not the worst presidents and the democrats will be judged by history as handing him a second term on a silver platter
People like you continue to blame the Democrats for something (Trump as presidential candidate) that the Republicans have done.
The country always has problems, there have been very few periods in US history when there werent a lot of problems. Crime was far worse in the 70's and 80's and 90's (to some extent) than it is now. There was a year in the 80's I believe when there were almost 2000 murders in NYC. Would there have been justification back then to put an utterly corrupt individual like Trump into the presidency? I doubt you will say yes. Very few people experience crime , or any other sort of threat to their being. There has been inflation , very much related to covid. The immigration issue has been around for decades. So why Trump ? Why did he become the elevated figure some conservatives worship? What did he do in early 2011? That is where the birth of the answer lies.
No luck on finding a link?
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I just want the facts.
Dont read your own articles then.
You are all alone now
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It's hard to know who to despise more........
No, it's the fools who voted for the fool who are to blame [deleted][✘]
That's hilarious.
I don't. lol
But trumpists have taught us that facts don't matter and liars win elections. So, why now all of the sudden?
Facts have never mattered to the cult and obviously never will.
Trump did not win this election, the Democratic Party and especially the Harris campaign lost it through negligence and ineffective strategy.
You are unwilling to accept the truth which is why you continue to spout "what if's" and blaming everything on the past.
Trump is a bad actor (no argument from me) but he was the one that so many millions of Americans chose rather than elect Harris because she was too busy with identity politics to speak to the needs of the people except in vague generalities.
Tessylo
Thanks for the interesting insight, but I left the line for president blank in my ballot, because I have told you folks for months I was not going to vote for either Trump or Harris.
I figured Harris would be president and just hoped for Republican control of the legislative branch.
It was the Democratic Party that threw this election away
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Blah, blah, blah.
Not true. Hate and arrogance and ignorance WON.
No, obviously hate and ignorance got trounced
Then you have no right to complain.
So the only ones that have a right to complain are Harris voters?
Thank you!
Such hypocrisy...SMH
I have not been complaining I have been discussing
Not even close to what I said. If people do not vote, they don't have a right to complain..
That's funny
Joy Reid's dismay that Harris lost despite getting Queen Latifah's endorsement will never stop being funny but it also exemplifies how much of a disconnect exists between actual voters and the democratic party elite.
I sincerely hope that all of the nut job celebrities that said they would leave the country if Trump was elected in 2016 will absolutely relocate to another country now that he has won another term. The celebrities did their part, they turned political rallies into concerts and variety shows, when the people wanted to hear what Harris was going to do for them.
That strategy did not work.
A bunch of nonsense. Trump had a sex worker (porn star) speak at his convention, and a 71 year old has been wrestler rip his shirt off a few minutes before Trump accepted the nomination. But it is Beyonce's fault? This is fucking ridiculous.
And Cher/Bette Midler/Rosanne/etc., are still in the U.S. after Trump's first win in 2016 when they said they're leaving???
Roseanne never said she was leaving. WTF are you talking about. She's a batshitcrazy maga.
A bunch of nonsense. Trump had a sex worker (porn star) speak at his convention, and a 71 year old has been wrestler rip his shirt off a few minutes before Trump accepted the nomination. But it is Beyonce's fault? This is fucking ridiculous.
Yeas John because of focus of the Harris campaign was totally on identity politics - and not on the issues and without any solutions.
Trump's campaign had idiotic flairs too (as you point out) but he stayed on message - he was going to fix the problems that the Harris/Biden administration caused. And even if that was not true (and in many ways it was not) that that is the message undecided and swing voters wanted to hear.
The willing acceptance of a comfortable lie (or a buttload of comfortable lies) is a problem with the audience and the liar, not the message of the opponent.
Harris did not make a campaign issue of either her race or gender, which makes me wonder what campaign you were watching. Or maybe what media you were watching.
Trump and his minions did make an issue of her race though.
Her minions and media did, and continue to do so.
How many comments have we seen blaming her loss on misogyny?
And racism,
and lies from alleged service members
So who are these alleged service members?
And you can't deny that many on the left are blaming racism, among many other things, for Harris' loss.
Maybe if they will blame the only thing to blame...Harris herself...then they can move on from the anger stage.
He was campaigning saying he was going to do things that he likely knew he couldn't ever do, Harris campaign was largely based on the same such promises.
The audience believed both of them because they want the changes both were lying about providing.
So you believe Trump?
Oh, that's right, you claimed you didn't vote for him.
lol
We blame the haters who voted for the hater/traitor.
Not Harris, Walz, or Biden.
Left the line blank because I hated them both.
I thought Harris would win and felt that her as president with A republican House and Senate would be the best of the possible outcomes of the election
Tessylo
Many of them voted "against" Harris more than they voted "for" Trump
Whatever.
So you find the traitor as a reasonable alternative.
You need to divert your hate to the deserving such as scum like the traitor trump.
Awesome. Thank you! So sick of that shit.
Wait, I thought you said
The truth is that Harris did address policy. She also addressed Trump's abominable behavior and character. People chose to elect the proven liar and con man, anyway, even as they knew he was lying. That's not Harris's fault.
That's not Harris's fault.
Sandy
Good catch, but
The many Democrats and Republicans, that live around here, that did not want Trump in the White House are not comforted by, nor do they believe that statement.
As to the "identity politics" comment
She said different things , to different audiences about what she would do and how she would do it and why she would do it.
That is identity politics in my opinion
Tessylo
I did not hate them personally
I hated the idea of either of them being president, but as I have said numerous times in this discussion - I would rather have had Harris win and the Republicans win the House and Senate then to have Trump won.
Keep up
Ok, and? The fact that they don't believe it doesn't make it untrue.
If the only way you can attempt to make your statements reconcile with each other is to equate talking about policy with identity politics, then we can see why you blame Harris. It's because you're determined to do so, in spite of facts. You have reached a conclusion, and twist the facts to fit that conclusion. When this is pointed out to you, you twist harder.
For clarity, please use the block quote function when replying to other members. It makes it easier to determine which words are yours, and which were written by others. If you highlight the portion of the comment to which you'd like to respond, then click on the "Reply" button, their word s will automatically be copied to a quote box that will be differentiated from your own text in your reply.
There's that condescension again.
And then just keeps digging
I don't know if it's the need to have the last word or what...
A lot of post election SLS going on right now. SLS = Sore Loser Syndrome.
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Oh, I won't. I've asked this question several times on a couple of threads/seeds and never get an answer.
I wish someone would just post those they think are "alleged" servicemen/women and if they don't, simply stop posting such bullshit.
Donald Trump is a traitor and he will be until the day he dies. People are not going to forget that.
When was he charged with treason?
Unfortunately, the turd traitor will doubtfully ever be held accountable
"I wish someone would just post those they think are "alleged servicemen/women and if they don't, simply stop posting such bullshit."
Pretty sure that is a line that does not want to be crossed. When I was on Newsvine I went by the same screen name and had some anti military jerk accuse me of being a military phony who was practicing medicine without a license. You cannot imagine the can of worms that opened. That person was forever banned from Newsvive post haste.
HUGE trump supporter.
As we have discussed before, when he is formally charged and convicted in a court of law with a judge and jury I will agree with you. Until then whether it is liked or not, according to our justice system, he is legally innocent of treason until proven guilty. People can continue to scream treason to the high heavens, but it will not change the reality of what I just wrote. I think you'd be surprised of what people will let go of and/or forget. It's already happening.
Fucking hilarious - the traitor is put above the law - and it looks like he'll get away with 1/6, which he incited.
Unfuckingbelieveable.
Where the fuck is karma when you really need it.
She got tired of being taken for granted and being lectured to.
I dont think you are a bad guy but your comment is totally ridiculous.
He was charged a year and a half ago. He hasnt been tried and convicted yet for election interference because he used legal machinations to delay the trial past all reason. Now he will "fire" the prosecutor on that case. What a way to prove you are innocent, get rid of the people making the case against you.
The facts are well known though for people who care - the Jan 6th committee. I know you nothing about it except the absurd belief that it was "rigged" against Trump.
But not for treason.
Most definitely a traitor.
Not until he is convicted for treason.
You know this....
Exactly!
Ask Kamala Harris that. Seem she got a healthy dose of it this past week.
And reality
Most definitely.
An interesting perspective from the left
"It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them," Sanders wrote. "While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right."
Bernie Sanders slams Democrats for 'abandoning working-class people' (usatoday.com)
'cause of the rich man North of Richmond
Fuck Bernie then too.
Apparently it takes some a very, very long time to move on from the anger stage.
You may take the same advice.
I don't trust traitors or alleged service members who lie about Tim Walz, a true service member who I KNOW AND BELIEVE served honorably.
But you trusted Walz when he said he retired as an E9 and that he served in a warzone.
At least you admit this.
Tessylo
You should talk directly to Bernie he might like the dirty talk
Don't quit your day job.
Happily, retired - no day job
Me too.
Whatever.
You're still not funny.
Neither are you funny, but some of us are trying to discuss a real issue and not to be funny
I know that I am. You're the one making stupid jokes.
It would be interesting to see Waltz's DD-214.
Gee, I wonder what Sanders says about Trump and the Republicans. I have a strong feeling it is worse than what he says about the Democrats.
You know you are probably right about that
His point (which you seem to conveniently have missed) is that unless the Democrats change their ways of campaigning and governing the Republicans will win future elections for the same reason they won this one.
The problem doesn't lie in Democratic campaigning and governing.
Hate and ignorance and batshitcrazy won
Hate and ignorance and batshitcrazy won
Exactly
Because of the ineffective campaign run by Harris and her team
No.
Also, Bernie Sanders is not the 'left' - so that is not a message from the 'left' - it is a message from Bernie Sanders.
Tessylo
Careful to not cut yourself splitting hairs, Bernie resides "on the left" of the political world in the US and thus his messages are "Messages from the left".
No one said that he spoke for everyone on the left
You did.
You may have the last word, for now.
You're really annoying me.
You did.
No I did not,
it is important that you understand the comment or the question before you try to answer it. Because you will a better chance of giving a coherent response if you understand the point or the question presented.
Yes, you did.
I don't need nor want your advice or your condescension.
No I didn't
No condescension meant, simply advice to read the context around the point being made
Yes, you did and I don't want your advice.
Yes, you did and I don't want your advice
No I really didn't and it wasn't advice - it was educational clarity
i luv me sum educational clarity, but i don't play as nice for some, but I do believe you weren't being intentionally malicious, as my ambiguity is on occasion, as in most every,interpreted the way others perceive it, and not in a way to deceive it, as just prefer to achieve it, N every now and then , i will. You do understand many in this country, due to deceitful lies the problem not solved,for much intentional bullshit pushed, and not resolved, rushed, and not fully Russian, involved, as it's explained but swallowed b 4 dissolved, asz lied through his teeth is a forked evil tongue sharper than the young hung buy the tree, it;'s easy to not sea, the depths of manipulation ,
whence forth you'd just rather sea how shallow a liter can bee, when the Supreme Quart cheater, is Trump;y, the truth beater...as he beats it around the bush, grabs any woman buy the tush,, cause he says they just let him, into prison is where he needs placed, asz a totally disgusting error in judgment, this error, that his hand picked judges meant, has had US all about faced, and some find it out of taste, i see it as disgraced, cause eye know and see, we are better than what a cult produced
could ever achieve....
Yes, you did and it's unwanted advice, and really fucking annoying.
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No I didn't and I am truly sorry that clarity annoys you
It's your need to have the last word. Clarity my ass.
Funny how so many view politics through a lens which entirely ignores the other party.
How can someone criticize the Ds for abandoning working people and not criticize the Rs even more?
Same phenomenon of criticizing Harris-Walz for falsehoods while giving a pass to the most prolific liar of our lifetimes.
Maybe Sanders is focused on criticizing the party with which he caucuses so that they improve and is indifferent to the Rs. That is, maybe he thinks that it is the Ds who are supposed to cater to working people and have failed in their primary mission. I wonder what he will say if Trump starts his insane tariff nonsense and triggers inflation.
No one can seem to understand that I do not condone or support either of these candidates.
The point I made was that the "voting public" felt deserted by the Democrats and harris and voted accordingly.
I did not believe any campaign points made by either candidate and they were both trying to sell the message that they thought would bring the most votes.
I am pretty sur that how Trump ends up leading the executive branch will have little resemblance to the crap he said he was going to do while campaigning
I was not referring to you but rather to Sanders per your quote.
If that is the key factor then explain to me how they could think that Trump cared more about them than Harris.
Cause they did,.. by a 4 million plus advantage.
That explains nothing.
Exactly, an 'explanation' of (the equivalent of) "because" is a tacit admission of having no answer. Topped off with the ad populum fallacy.
Sorry, I cannot explain that, but it is obvious by the results and Trump increased numbers in the working class demographics that this is what happened
No, not at all.
I strongly suspect this was the overriding factor. The electorate as a whole clearly does not understand what the economy is. It does not matter that inflation is back to normal (2.4%), the GDP continues to grow at a healthy pace, we continue to increase our exports of fossil fuels year-over-year, and the stock market continues to break record highs. All that matters to a great many people is that prices and interest rates are higher than when Trump was PotUS. And that is true, but the conclusion drawn is false (and naive). Too many in the electorate falsely believe that Biden (and Harris) should be blamed for the lingering high prices / interest (blame the pandemic as the root cause) and give them no credit (even though this is normally naively attributed to a PotUS) whatsoever for ending the pandemic, lowering inflation, etc. and, much worse, they believe that Trump will magically fix this.
This is not unusual in USA politics. But it is dangerous that so many are so gullible to believe a proven con-man, pathological liar, clown like Trump will fix things. Next to that is the danger of so many who credit Trump with the good economy during his first term prior to the pandemic. That, sickeningly, is the key factor that resulted in his reelection. Too many hold this false belief and disregarded the profound negatives of this traitor because they believed that he will make their individual lives better when in reality his stated policies will make their lives much worse.
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The Republicans will overplay their hand and under deliver their promises and face a backlash during the next mid-term election.
Likely, but it is clear that too many in the electorate do not pay attention to politics and vote based on local factors. Since prices continue to settle and interest rates lower, things are improving. And Trump has nothing to do with it but will get credit.
In the meantime, he will continue to lie and people will continue to believe him.
Too many apparently believe 'the economy' is prices. They clearly ignore (or do not know) the fact that the GDP is healthy, inflation rate is back to normal, interest rates are lowering, and the bellwether (stock market) is breaking new records. The US economy itself is in great shape; what is not yet great are prices and interest rates.
This has always been true.
If the Republicans take the House as they expect they will jam through spending and tax cuts. Trump WILL also get the blame if that slides us into a recession in 2026.
Unless they actually suspend the Constitution we only have to deal with him and his house of fools for a single term. As soon as he secures the releases of the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys currently in prison and they restart their violent ways he'll lose a lot of his support.
And the consequences this time are staggering.
Trump is going to surround himself with sycophants who will do his bidding. Look at how JD Vance and Marco Rubio have turned from major critics into slavish operatives.
Given Congress is replete with MAGA who have demonstrated they will do whatever Trump wants, this irresponsible loose-cannon has more freedom than I have seen in a PotUS in my lifetime.
I prefer to wait and see what happens.
I'll wait for the facts.
We all have to wait and see what happens before we have fact. Your comment says absolutely nothing.
In the meantime, it takes no great insight to predict that Trump is going to surround himself with people who are "loyal to him" which means people who will do his bidding. It would be quite telling if someone does not see this.
And some of us wait even after we have them.
In the meantime, it takes no great insight to predict that Trump is going to surround himself with people who are "loyal to him" which means people who will do his bidding. It would be quite telling if someone does not see this.
As opposed to having an administration with every one of the same ideological mindset?
Obama did it and Biden did it. It would be what is needed if it does happen.
Did biden surround himself with people that were disloyal to him? How about obama? Why would anybody in charge of anything hire people that would not be loyal? If you were put in charge of an important project, would you ask for assistants that you did not trust? Or would you prefer to have people you trust by your side to see that project through? To complain that he will surround himself with people that are loyal to him is about the dumbest complaint one could hear because who the hell would not do that?
Stupid people who don't own stock and are mad prices keep rising as they sink further into debt thanks to high interest rates. Don't they know the affluent are prospering?
They should be grateful inflation is only 20% over target and compounds upon the increases that have wrecked their finances the last few years.
Another meaningless platitude.
No, Vic, you know damn well what I mean. There is a difference between having an administration replete with people of one's party (the norm) versus one staffed with people who will do whatever the PotUS tells them to do and agree with him on every count. Trump always thinks he knows better than anyone else. He will hire and fire until he gets sycophants like Marco Rubio and Aileen Cannon who will do as they are told.
I'm less worried about Trump and Co, than his cult followers. There have been a marked uptick of violent, racist and misogynistic rhetoric online since Tuesday. Several black children received text messages yesterday telling them to report to a plantation. It will get gross.
If the electorate truly was voting based on the 'economy' they would be giving Biden-Harris credit. But they were not. So clearly the 'economy' was not the concern but rather the lingering high prices and interest rates.
No, Gazoo, you know damn well what I mean. There is a difference between having an administration replete with people of one's party (the norm) versus one staffed with people who will do whatever the PotUS tells them to do and agree with him on every count. Trump always thinks he knows better than anyone else. He will hire and fire until he gets sycophants like Marco Rubio and Aileen Cannon who will do as they are told.
Lol. Probably sent by the same people in MAGA country who attacked Smollett.
Because that is how the "economy" impacts them on the daily life. Do you expect a retail worker who owns no stocks and whose rent has gone up 50% in four years to celebrate "the economy" because the stock market is up?
Why were so many people in his first administration "disloyal" to him? Does it ever occur to you that he is the source and cause of their disloyalty. There is no doubt that some fools will join his administration in January, and after a relatively short period of time see through actual interactions with him that he is corrupt . Then they will leave and Trump will call them disloyal.
The guy that was known as "Anonymous" in the first administration, Miles Taylor, do you think he was expecting to write secret messages to the media warning about Trump when the administration started in 2017. No, he was expecting to help make the trump administration a success, but as time went on he saw the danger of Trump and spoke out. The same thing will happen this time unless Trump fires them all first and gets his "loyalists" in there. .
No I do not.
That was my point. How could you have missed it? I stated clearly that what most people are calling the economy is actually lingering inflated prices and interest rate.
Too much, too little, too fucking late
You have no idea that whoever he chooses for his cabinet will agree with him on every count. My point stands, it is utterly stupid to for a boss to surround himself with people that will not be loyal to him.
For his first administration he trusted dc insiders. He has said, and i’m surprised you did not know this knowing all things trump, that he will not make the same mistake again.
Yes it is irresponsible for a PotUS to surround himself with sycophants. And you seem to think that this is NOT how Trump operates? Have you not paid attention to this guy for all these years??
What do you think Trump means by that?
You are making my argument for me. He wants people who will blind eye his corruption , thus those loyal to "him". Normal DC political aides will not swallow everything he sells like his loyalists will.
He fired everyone who told him 'NO'. 'YOU CAN'T DO THAT'. 'THAT'S ILLEGAL'.
“Yes it is irresponsible for a PotUS to surround himself with sycophants.”
Sycophant is your word, not mine. My point is would be utterly stupid for him to surround himself with people that would not be loyal to him. And it is utterly stupid to complain that he would do such a thing.
The answer is quite obvious, as a dc outsider he made the mistake of trusting dc insiders. He won’t make that mistake again
Lol, “normal dc political aides”, would those be people who desire the status quo? When did liberals become so political establishment oriented? The script has flipped 180 degrees.
Trump's concept of loyalty is to do whatever he says. I made that quite clear and you should know that anyway from simply observing Trump.
Trump means that he will pick people who are "loyal" to him and in Trump's mind "loyalty" = "do whatever I tell you to do".
He has an outstanding Chief of Staff who is nowhere near a DC insider. She has roots in the city I live in and I can assure you she will be very diligent in who fills what positions.
Anyone with ties to democrats in any way need not apply..
So now you have sunk to the level of thinking you know exactly what he means and exactly what he thinks. Lol
Amazing that you do not understand by now that Trump will seek to surround himself with people who will do whatever he says.
Amazing that you claim to know exactly what trump thinks and what he actually means.
I do not make that claim. I am claiming that Trump will operate as he has his entire life.
I saw that on the news this morning. Imagine how those kids are feeling* right about now
*here comes a MAGA-ite to tell me FUCK THEIR FEELINGS!
It showed a major disconnect between the Biden/Harris administration and the American people. When people said they were worried about the economy what they were really talking about was inflation and prices. Instead of addressing the peoples actual concerns the Biden/Harris administration told them they don't understand that the economy was doing great. When people are having trouble putting food on the table they really don't care about the GDP, stock market, or unemployment rate. The dems just didn't get that. Just another example the complete disconnect.
The dems were too busy talking to listen.
A major campaign theme of Harris was to combat price gouging. A PotUS cannot (and should not) establish market prices across the board so gouge fighting is a sensible action.
She clearly was speaking to the issue but was not about to make outrageous promises to magically fix that which is resolved over time by market forces.
what's amazing is your blind indifference to the influence a cult leader has upon his members, but, carry on and defend the offending pos, and act like it is all hunky dory, having a mental deficient praise crazy craving attention whore to mind us, and our general (fascist claiming and warning) store, where Everything is for sale, and you can grab pussy galore, show top secret documents to your favorite Russian hooker, and then have Danno your corrupt A G book her, for a fifty state of denial tour, yep, pussies galore....
I hear trump wants to fit them with new colors. Brown shirts for everyone. (With a tip-o-the-hat to Sparty)
We are finding out now that the Kamala campaign paid for the celebrity endorsements. It was a fail and the average American doesn't care what these barkers have to say.
The Democrats have lost touch with the electorate. What matters to the elite won't win you elections.
Harris blew through a billion dollars in three months and her campaign somehow ended up in debt.
Lizzo aint' cheap,
You think the campaign had to feed her for that endorsement?
So funny! So relevant! She's not heavy anymore. Bro.
That went to half the budget.
And reinforce the stage.
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Trump beat Hillary, and millions of voters woke up with a pit in their stomach over what they knew the next four years would look like. It was far worse than could even be imagined, just an endless string of embarrassment and failed leadership. Here we are again. Sit back and get ready for another long round of cringe. You get what you vote for.
Too bad we all have to suffer for those despicable people who would vote for the traitor knowing all that we know now.
The outcome of successful planning always looks like luck to saps.
How profound
And untrue regarding this election