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Trump Confirms , Today, That Military Will Be Used For Mass Deportations

  
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Trump Confirms , Today, That Military Will Be Used For Mass Deportations
 

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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    5 hours ago

Trump confirms he will declare national emergency to carry out mass deportations

President-elect Trump   confirmed Monday that he is planning to declare a national emergency and use the U.S. military to carry out   mass deportations .

Why it matters:   Trump made his promise to deport millions of undocumented immigrants one of the cornerstones of his 2024 campaign, and his team has already begun strategizing how to carry its plan out.

  • A Truth Social post early Monday is the first time the president-elect has confirmed how his administration will execute the controversial plan.

Driving the news:   Tom Fitton , the president of the conservative group Judicial Watch,   posted on Truth Social   earlier this month that Trump was "prepared to declare a national emergency and will use military assets to reverse the Biden invasion through a mass deportation program."

  • Trump   reposted   Fitton's comment Monday with the caption, "TRUE!!"

The big picture:   There are an estimated   11 million undocumented immigrants   living in the U.S. Trump's mass deportations are expected to   impact roughly 20 million families   across the country.

  • Immigration advocates and lawyers are   preparing   to counter the plan in court.
  • The president-elect's team is aiming to craft executive orders that can withstand legal challenges to avoid a similar defeat that befell Trump's   Muslim ban   in his first term,   Politico   reported.
  • Their plans also include ending the parole program for undocumented immigrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela, per Politico.

Zoom out:   Trump has also already begun filling out his Cabinet positions with immigration hardliners.

  • This includes   tapping Tom Homan , the former acting head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), to serve as his "border czar."
  • In addition, Trump nominated South Dakota Gov.   Kristi Noem   as his secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

Go deeper:   How Trump's plan for mass deportations fits into U.S. history

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  seeder  JohnRussell    5 hours ago

There is a feeling out process going on where Trump is trying to figure out how far he can go in his cruelty towards migrants before the public says enough. After all, he wants "everyone" to love him. 

 
 
 
George
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3  George    4 hours ago

Why does the left have so much trouble calling them what they actually are? Illegals, these aren't migrants they are illegals.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1  Ozzwald  replied to  George @3    4 hours ago
Why does the left have so much trouble calling them what they actually are? Illegals, these aren't migrants they are illegals.

Why does the right have so much trouble telling the difference between illegal immigrants and asylum seekers?  Asylum seekers are not illegal.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.1  Jack_TX  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1    an hour ago

Why would you think all or even most of these people are asylum seekers?

Why would you think all of the asylum seekers are in compliance with the rules of seeking asylum?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.1    48 minutes ago
Why would you think all or even most of these people are asylum seekers?

Here is one specific example:   Trump repeats baseless claim about Haitian immigrants eating pets

He has repeated that lie many many times calling them illegals, despite the FACT that the Haitians are here LEGALLY .

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.3  Jack_TX  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.2    28 minutes ago

The article you cited quotes Trump extensively, but does not quote him as calling the Haitians illegal immigrants. 

Also, you didn't answer either of my questions. 

Do you think that the majority of immigrants in this country that are referred to as " illegal" or actually asylum seekers, and if so what data causes you to draw that conclusion? 

Do you believe that the majority of asylum seekers are in compliance?  Are they all attending they're mandatory hearings and observing all of the rules one must follow when seeking asylum? If so, what data causes you to draw that conclusion?

 
 
 
Kavika
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4  Kavika     4 hours ago

I remember Eisenhower ‘’Operation Wetback’’ a fricking disaster and when the truth was told it was not nearly as successful as it claimed to be. US citizens were deported because they were ‘’Mexican’’ along with legal immigrants and to this day those memories are alive in the Mexican community. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Kavika @4    4 hours ago

Trump "truthed" at 4:00 this morning that yes indeed he will use the military for mass deportations. He either plans to do it just that way or he is floating a trial balloon to see how it is accepted. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    4 hours ago

I vote for balloons, as most people know. It's what he does with most things, and some find it to be gospel and going to happen.

 
 
 
George
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4.1.2  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.1    4 hours ago

Like he is going to deport American citizens because they look Mexican? 

 
 
 
evilone
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4.1.3  evilone  replied to  George @4.1.2    4 hours ago
Like he is going to deport American citizens because they look Mexican? 

Right now on average 70 US Citizens are wrongly deported each year. How many will be caught up in what Trump has referred to as the largest deportation effort in US history?

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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4.1.4  1stwarrior  replied to  evilone @4.1.3    3 hours ago

STARTLING STATS FACTSHEET: Fiscal Year 2024 Ends With Nearly 3 Million Inadmissible Encounters, 10.8 Million Total Encounters Since FY2021

Gee - wow - 70 - I repeat - 70 - gasp.

How 'bout 3 MILLION Illegal Aliens who HAVEN'T been deported?

Set your priorities.  The U.S. 70 easily get back into the U.S. by providing PROOF that they are U.S. Citizens - Illegals??? Nope, and it needs to stay that way.

CBP has recorded another roughly 2 million known gotaways since the start of FY2021, roughly four times the number recorded from FY2017-2020. The Biden-Harris administration has released millions of inadmissible aliens into the country without adequate vetting or screening, to say nothing of the roughly two million more who have entered as known gotaways. In  testimony before the Committee  last year, then-chief of Border Patrol Raul Ortiz said the total number of gotaways could be underreported by as much as 20 percent. There is no way to know how many more potential national security threats, violent criminals, and hardened gang members are now at large in our country. More than 390 illegal aliens on the terrorist watchlist have been apprehended attempting to cross our Southwest and northern borders between ports of entry since the beginning of FY2021—an increase of more than 3,000 percent compared to FY2017-2020. Individuals from  more than 160 countries  have been apprehended crossing the border illegally, including aliens from countries on the  State Sponsors of Terrorism list . The Committee has documented how DHS’ processes for screening and vetting of inadmissible border crossers  are wholly inadequate.

And, of course, that 2 million figure is way low from what actually occurs.  Just ask us down in the SW who encounter it daily.

 
 
 
evilone
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4.1.5  evilone  replied to  1stwarrior @4.1.4    an hour ago
Gee - wow - 70 - I repeat - 70 - gasp.

And if that was you or a family member? 

Set your priorities.  

My priorities are to have CONGRESS do it's job and fix the issue, not whine and manufacture bullshit emergencies for political reasons. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4.1.6  Jack_TX  replied to  evilone @4.1.3    an hour ago
Right now on average 70 US Citizens are wrongly deported each year. 

So... about as many as are struck by lightning.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4.1.7  Jack_TX  replied to  evilone @4.1.5    an hour ago
My priorities are to have CONGRESS do it's job and fix the issue, 

In Ronald Reagan's America, that would happen.  

not whine and manufacture bullshit emergencies for political reasons. 

The mayors of NY and several other major cities think it's a real emergency when 500 immigrants arrive.  Imagine what 500,000 must be.

 
 
 
evilone
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4.1.8  evilone  replied to  Jack_TX @4.1.6    51 minutes ago
So... about as many as are struck by lightning.

WTF does that have to do with my post? 

 
 
 
evilone
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4.1.9  evilone  replied to  Jack_TX @4.1.7    50 minutes ago

Do you have a point?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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4.1.10  Jack_TX  replied to  evilone @4.1.8    48 minutes ago

You referred to 70 as though it were significant number. So we're putting it in context.

 
 
 
George
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4.1.11  George  replied to  evilone @4.1.3    45 minutes ago
Right now on average 70 US Citizens are wrongly deported each year

Everything i read says 70 over a 5 year period and it "may" have been, do you have a source for your claim?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
4.1.12  Jack_TX  replied to  evilone @4.1.9    37 minutes ago
Do you have a point?

That it is incredibly ridiculous to suggest that a million people is a "bullshit emergency", while simultaneously suggesting that 70 people is a significant number.

Those of us who live in border states have watched for years while condescending self-righteous Yankees with thousands of miles of insulation from this problem try to virtue signal about it. 

That is not to say that the immigrants themselves are more prone to crime, lazy, or possessed of any other character flaw. 

But ignoring the sheer number of these people coming across and a strain they put on public infrastructure in these areas simply because it's convenient for identity politics is the real bullshit.

 
 
 
George
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4.1.13  George  replied to  Jack_TX @4.1.12    31 minutes ago
70 people is a significant number.

Over 5 years........May have been.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
4.1.14  Jack_TX  replied to  George @4.1.13    24 minutes ago
Over 5 years........May have been

I think the number reported was listed as a per year statistic.  I haven't looked it up myself, so I have no reason to doubt it. 

Quite honestly, I'm surprised it's that low. 

 
 
 
George
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4.1.15  George  replied to  Jack_TX @4.1.14    19 minutes ago

ICE May Have Deported as Many as 70 US Citizens In the Last Five Years

ICE May Have Deported as Many as 70 US Citizens In the Last Five Years
 
 
 
evilone
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5  evilone    4 hours ago

I called it: Trump will manufacture an emergency to bypass Congress and reroute funding. This will be an expensive fuck-up.

 
 
 
George
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5.1  George  replied to  evilone @5    4 hours ago
I called it:

Kamala in a landslide?

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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5.1.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  George @5.1    4 hours ago

was she buried alive ...

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.2  Kavika   replied to  evilone @5    an hour ago

In the 1920s, 30s 40s and 50s the US deported hundreds of thousands of mostly Mexicans a vast number of them were US citizens or were in the US legally, many died and many US citizens families were destroyed and at most the Eisenhower operation ‘’wet back’’ deported around 300,000 to 350,000 not the 1.5 million that they claimed according to most historians. And here is a question for all of you, did these deportations ,,many of them illegal stop the influx of immigrants, no it did not nor will it in the future.

Congress has to get off their dead asses and come together with a comprehensive over haul of our immigration policy and with asylum and other doors to the US. We cannot afford to cut off all immigration that is legal if we did we would be in the same situation as Western Europe and much of Asia and that we cannot afford. 

 
 
 
evilone
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5.2.1  evilone  replied to  Kavika @5.2    44 minutes ago
Congress has to get off their dead asses and come together with a comprehensive over haul of our immigration policy and with asylum and other doors to the US.

Yes. All this is going to do is be a political quagmire and eat through funding allocated for something else. It will drive up the cost of labor in markets these people worked in.

 
 

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