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First Under The Bus, the colored guy

  
By:  John Russell  •  3 days ago  •  35 comments


First Under The Bus, the colored guy
 

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Vivek Ramaswamy has been persuaded to step down as a DOGE poohbah.

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Vivek Ramaswamy expected to depart DOGE - CBS News


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    3 days ago

Washington DC wasnt big enough for the both of them. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1    23 hours ago

OMG! HE IS RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR OF OHIO!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    21 hours ago

Try picking up a newspaper or objective web site. Ramaswamy was kicked out because he was too annoying even for MAGA dipshits to stomach. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    18 hours ago

We can only speculate as to why Ramaswamy is no longer co-leader, but we do have evidence that can help us to a logical possibility.

  • Ramaswamy is obnoxious;  not likely to endear himself to those he would seek to influence.
  • Elon Musk has a massive ego and has always been the sole leader of the pack.   The idea that he would accept someone else as co-leader is remote.
  • The concept of co-leader rarely works in practice.   There are special cases where two varied skill sets are used in lieu of finding one person with both skill sets, but for co-leader to work there needs to be clear rules and the co-leaders need to be people who would cooperatively work together.
  • DOGE was Musk's brainchild.   Musk was always the guy mentioned (or at least mentioned first) when speaking of DOGE.   Never did we see Ramaswamy alone associated with DOGE but we often saw Musk as the face and voice of DOGE.
  • Trump no doubt sees Musk as far more influential in his election and far more influential going forward (being the richest person on the planet by far ...) and will not attempt to manage a co-leader balance if Musk does not want said balance.

Logically, the most likely scenario is that Ramaswamy quit or was pushed out and running for Governor of Ohio is his answer to "now what?".

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2  TᵢG    3 days ago

The idea of a co-leader rarely makes sense.   Trump likely did this on purpose to rid himself of the obnoxious loud mouth.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  TᵢG @2    3 days ago

Which one is more of an obnoxious loudmouth?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1    2 days ago

Good point.

The key difference is Elon has much more money and influence so the choice is easy.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.1    2 days ago

It's sad that humanity has chosen that those who deserve the highest level of respect are those who have the most money rather than those who are the most accomplished creators, inventors and artists.  IMO the late Dr. Jonas Salk was worth 10 times as much as Elon Musk.  But then, to a lot of people, being able to make money is so much more important to society than say composing the Ninth Symphony as Beethoven did or painting The Last Supper as DaVinci did. 

 
 
 
zuksam
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2.1.3  zuksam  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1.2    yesterday

It'll all work out. Just about everyone knows who Beethoven and DaVinci were and what they did and in 300 years most people will still know who they were and what they did. But it's unlikely very many people will know or care who Elon Musk was three hundred years from now.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  zuksam @2.1.3    23 hours ago

That's true, zuksam, but my lament is about now. 

 
 
 
GregTx
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2.2  GregTx  replied to  TᵢG @2    2 days ago
The idea of a co-leader rarely makes sense.

So you believe there can only be one leader?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  GregTx @2.2    2 days ago

No.  Read what I wrote.   Figure it out.   My statement is as clear as a bell.

hint:  'rarely'

 
 
 
Kavika
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3  Kavika     2 days ago

Another one bites the dust.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    2 days ago

Anything other than your own belief system to suggest race had anything to do with this? 

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1  bugsy  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    2 days ago

To most leftists, race is the ONLY reason.

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.2  Krishna  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    2 days ago
Anything other than your own belief system to suggest race had anything to do with this? 

Of course race shouldn't be an issue.

(BTW, what race is he anyway?)

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.2.1  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4.2    2 days ago
(BTW, what race is he anyway?)

Can't tell just by looking at his picture.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5  bugsy    2 days ago

The reason is right in the article

"Ramaswamy intends to announce a campaign for Ohio governor as soon as the end of January, multiple sources confirmed to CBS News. "

Everything else is speculation and continues to go along the anonymous sources CBS "news" is well known to use.

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.1  Krishna  replied to  bugsy @5    2 days ago
"Ramaswamy intends to announce a campaign for Ohio governor as soon as the end of January, multiple sources confirmed to CBS News. "

So apparently amongst the qualificiations required to run for office in Ohio-- race is not one of them?

Well, IMNSHO, that's te way it should be!

(Content of their character...not their alledged race!)

 
 
 
Kavika
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6  Kavika     2 days ago

Another DEI hire, the MAGA should be quite happy that he is gone or going…./s

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1  bugsy  replied to  Kavika @6    2 days ago

He didn’t get hired for anything. Most of DOGE is voluntary.

 
 
 
Kavika
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6.1.1  Kavika   replied to  bugsy @6.1    2 days ago

Wooooosh.

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.1.2  bugsy  replied to  Kavika @6.1.1    2 days ago

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devangelical
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6.2  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @6    2 days ago

trump will make him czar of convenience stores ... /s

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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6.2.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  devangelical @6.2    2 days ago

How.

can u Patel...?

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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7  Robert in Ohio    2 days ago

Is there any chance that the reason is that he is going to be preparing to run for governor of Ohio?

Of course that is not as flashy as your racist theory

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.1  TᵢG  replied to  Robert in Ohio @7    2 days ago

Yes, that is a possibility.   Another possibility is that he was pushed out and is running for Governor as his next play.

There is insufficient information to know, but logically I was waiting for this to happen.   Putting two egos like this as co-leaders is a recipe for failure.   I figured Musk would come out on top.

The next is Musk to drop out due to ego clashes with Trump.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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7.1.1  Robert in Ohio  replied to  TᵢG @7.1    2 days ago

The next is Musk to drop out due to ego clashes with Trump.

Absolutely agree!

 
 
 
Krishna
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7.1.2  Krishna  replied to  TᵢG @7.1    2 days ago
The next is Musk to drop out due to ego clashes with Trump.

Hopefully focusing on Musk's race wll not happen . . . 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  Krishna @7.1.2    2 days ago

I would expect the news on such an event will focus on the repercussions.   It the split is not amicable, Trump will not like Musk as an enemy and vice-versa.

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.4  Kavika   replied to  TᵢG @7.1.3    yesterday

No worries TiG, Musk will buy the US and fire Trump.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  Kavika @7.1.4    yesterday

The best I am hoping for is that Musk-Trump ego clashes will distract Trump and disrupt his nutty plans.   As with Biden, I prefer Trump to just coast out these four years and pretty much not do anything.   And, as with Biden, I do not expect I will see that happen.

 
 
 
Krishna
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7.2  Krishna  replied to  Robert in Ohio @7    2 days ago
Of course that is not as flashy as your racist theory

Over the years, it seems that race is a major criteria on social media sites (possibly less so on sites like NT...???)

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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7.2.1  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Krishna @7.2    yesterday
Over the years, it seems that race is a major criteria on social media sites (possibly less so on sites like NT...???)

Do you think so?

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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7.2.2  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Robert in Ohio @7.2.1    23 hours ago

id agree

 
 

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