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Donald Trump in fiery call with Denmark’s prime minister over Greenland

  
Via:  John Russell  •  yesterday  •  62 comments


Donald Trump in fiery call with Denmark’s prime minister over Greenland
They added that Trump had been aggressive and confrontational following the Danish prime minister’s comments that the island was not for sale, despite her offer of more co-operation on military bases and mineral exploitation. “It was horrendous,” said one of the people. Another added: “He was very firm. It was a cold shower. Before, it was hard to take it seriously. But I do think it is serious, and potentially very dangerous.”

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Donald Trump insisted he was serious in his determination to take over Greenland in a fiery telephone call with Denmark’s prime minister, according to senior European officials. The US president spoke to Mette Frederiksen, the Danish premier, for 45 minutes last week. The White House has not commented on the call but Frederiksen said she had emphasised that the vast Arctic island — an autonomous part of the kingdom of Denmark — was not for sale, while noting America’s “big interest” in it. Five current and former senior European officials briefed on the call said the conversation had gone very badly.

They added that Trump had been aggressive and confrontational following the Danish prime minister’s comments that the island was not for sale, despite her offer of more co-operation on military bases and mineral exploitation. “It was horrendous,” said one of the people. Another added: “He was very firm. It was a cold shower. Before, it was hard to take it seriously. But I do think it is serious, and potentially very dangerous.” The details of the call are likely to deepen European concerns that Trump’s return to power will strain transatlantic ties more than ever, as the US president heaps pressure on allies to give up territory. Trump has started his second term musing about potentially taking over Greenland, the Panama Canal, and even Canada. Donald Trump Jnr allegedly landing in Nuuk, Greenland, earlier this month © Ritzau Scanpix/AFP/Getty Images Many European officials had hoped his comments about seeking control of Greenland for “national security” reasons were a negotiating ploy to gain more influence over the Nato territory. Russia and China are both also jostling for position in the Arctic. But the call with Frederiksen has crushed such hopes, deepening the foreign policy crisis between the Nato allies. “The intent was very clear. They want it.

The Danes are now in crisis mode,” said one person briefed on the call. Another said: “The Danes are utterly freaked out by this.” A former Danish official added: “It was a very tough conversation. He threatened specific measures against Denmark such as targeted tariffs.” The Danish prime minister’s office said it did “not recognise the interpretation of the conversation given by anonymous sources”. Greenland, home to just 57,000 people, is an entry point to new shipping routes gradually opening up through the Arctic; it also boasts abundant but hard to access minerals. “President Trump has been clear that the safety and security of Greenland is important to the United States as China and Russia make significant investments throughout the Arctic region,” a White House National Security Council spokesperson said. “The President is committed to not only protecting US interests in the Arctic but also working with Greenland to ensure mutual prosperity for both nations.” Trump threatened in early January to impose duties on Denmark if it opposed him on Greenland. He also declined to rule out using military force to take control of the island. “People really don’t even know if Denmark has any legal right to it but, if they do, they should give it up because we need it for national security,” Trump said at a press conference days before taking office. “I’m talking about protecting the free world,” he added. “You have China ships all over the place. You have Russian ships all over the place. We’re not letting that happen.”

Múte Egede, Greenland’s prime minister, has repeatedly stressed that the island’s inhabitants want independence rather than US — or Danish — citizenship. But he has welcomed US business interest in mining and tourism. Frederiksen held a meeting with chief executives of large Danish companies including Novo Nordisk and Carlsberg last week to discuss Trump’s threats, including potential tariffs against her country. On the day of the Trump call, she told Denmark’s TV2: “There is no doubt that there is great interest in and around Greenland. Based on the conversation I had today, there is no reason to believe that it should be less than what we have heard in the public debate.” 


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    yesterday

I truly think Trump wants America to take over Greenland and name it after him. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @1    yesterday

That fucking piece of shit megalomaniac thinks he's Julius Caesar.

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It would be no surprise to me if he ended up like Julius Caesar.  He was lucky once.

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.1.1  Thomas  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1    yesterday

Et tu, Buzz?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Thomas @1.1.1    yesterday

LOL.  No, it would be more fitting if Musk did it. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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2  Kavika     yesterday

Typical bullly behavior and not surprising. So he is going to use tariffs to destroy Denmark a very strong ally of ours and if not invade Greenland and violate its sovereignty. And if the Indigenous Inuit fight back is he going to follow Manifest Destiny and kill them all or round them up and put them in an interment camp, other wise known as a reservation. WOW this MF is nutty as a fruitcake, Trump the great colonizer, Greenland now, Panama next, Canada down the road and then Iceland.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Kavika @2    yesterday

I'm not kidding, I think he wants to have Greenland renamed Trumpland or Trump Island or whatever.  He wants his own Mt McKinley or Gulf Of America. 

 
 
 
evilone
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2.1.1  evilone  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    yesterday
I think he wants to have Greenland renamed Trumpland or Trump Island or whatever.  He wants his own Mt McKinley or Gulf Of America. 

We should all let him know that when the super volcano under Yellowstone blows we'll name it after him. It will be the most destructive force in the world in 2000 years.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  evilone @2.1.1    yesterday
"It will be the most destructive force in the world in 2000 years."

In the movie 2012 people survived it.  It's doubtful that people will if it should happen. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Kavika @2    yesterday
Typical bullly behavior and not surprising.

Typical misogynistic behavior.  He probably thinks he can make her back down and sell him Greenland if he pretends to be a manly man and not the fat, stupid, thin skinned, racist that he really is..

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3  TᵢG    yesterday
He threatened specific measures against Denmark such as targeted tariffs.

The rest of the planet is likely very upset with the irresponsible, irrational voting of the US electorate.   We have unleashed an emboldened tyrant.

 
 
 
evilone
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3.1  evilone  replied to  TᵢG @3    yesterday
We have unleashed an emboldened tyrant.

With a military and economic juggernaut behind it. What happens to our economy if the whole world decides they've all had enough?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  evilone @3.1    yesterday

At the least, the planet knows that they can no longer trust the US electorate to elect rational, responsible,  reasonable, presidential individuals to the office of the presidency.

That damage is now done.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.1    yesterday

Shame on all those 77 million Trump voters. Are you implying you're smarter and wiser than they are?

The Dems are totally responsible for the mess they find themselves in.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.2    yesterday
Shame on all those 77 million Trump voters.

Exactly!

Are you implying you're smarter and wiser than they are?

I am stating that voting for Trump was a mistake.  It was irrational, irresponsible, and unpatriotic.

Pay real close attention to what I wrote.  I am talking about a choice, a transaction, and made no mention whatsoever of any other factor of those who voted for Trump.   And I spoke of Trump's characteristics, not the characteristics of the voters.

The Dems are totally responsible for the mess they find themselves in.

Yes, Biden in particular.   Biden should have never opted for a second term.   But my point was about Trump ... and you of course deflect.

 
 
 
Thomas
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3.1.4  Thomas  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.2    yesterday
hame on all those 77 million Trump voters. Are you implying you're smarter and wiser than they are?

Yes.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  TᵢG @3    yesterday
The rest of the planet is likely very upset with the irresponsible, irrational voting of the US electorate.

Well, I think it's pretty obvious what those folk who voted for Trump think about what the rest of the world feels about them which is "Couldn't care less". You can't expect such monumentally self-absorbed bigots, who consider themselves, their faith, their State and their country superior to all others, to give a fuck about what anyone else on the planet feels about them. They are and have seemingly always been undeservedly confident in their own superiority when in reality they should have only been deservedly confident in their own stupidity.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.2    yesterday

Unfortunately the actions of a plurality of eligible voters have consequences that affect not only the USA but the planet.

The USA has about 244 million eligible voters.   In 2024, 77,284,118 votes were cast for Trump.   That means ~32% of the eligible voters cast their vote for Trump.   Also, 74,999,166 votes were cast for Harris, or ~31% of the eligible voters.

About 1/3 of the eligible voters did not even bother to vote.   Plenty to have elected Harris rather than Trump.   The result of this apathy is Trump as PotUS.

Approximately 32% of the eligible voters put this asshole in office.

 
 
 
fineline
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3.2.2  fineline  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.2    yesterday

And there it is in a nutshell, religion, bigotry and greed.

 
 
 
Thomas
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3.2.3  Thomas  replied to  TᵢG @3.2.1    yesterday
The USA has about 244 million eligible voters.   In 2024, 77,284,118 votes were cast for Trump.   That means ~32% of the eligible voters cast their vote for Trump.   Also, 74,999,166 votes were cast for Harris, or ~31% of the eligible voters.

I looked around for an accurate number of registered voters and it was incredibly difficult to find, short of going to each voting district individually. Where did you get that  number??? I settled on the Federal Register's estimates of voting age population of 262,083,034, published 3/29/24. 

With that and the APs published figures (I can no longer update them from the same page, but I tracked them until the page was closed in December) the figures that I arrived at were out of 154,818,100 votes for PotUS, 59.1% of people eligible to vote did so, 29.5% of eligible voters cast a ballot for Trump (49.91% of the total votes), 28.6% for Harris (48.43% of the total votes) and 0.98% for others (1.66% of the total votes). So, with a difference of a mere 1.48% between them, the "other" vote could have changed the election. And yet Trump feels that he now has a mandate to rip up our government, its institutions, and with it society to recreate it in his own twisted and malevolent image. That is what he is in the process of doing.

Congratulations, America. Welcome to "shithole country" status. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.4  TᵢG  replied to  Thomas @3.2.3    23 hours ago
Where did you get that  number???

I do not remember the exact source, but here is another source with the same number:  

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.3  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @3    16 hours ago
The rest of the planet is likely very upset with the irresponsible, irrational voting of the US electorate.

Absolutely nobody cares what the rest of the planet thinks.

Did you have concerns that the rest of the planet, especially Xi and Putin, laughed at Biden? Probably not because Biden had the almighty D.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.3.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  bugsy @3.3    16 hours ago

Believe it or not, bugsy, but some of us are concerned about more than our own country, and even more than ourselves.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.3.2  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @3.3    14 hours ago
Absolutely nobody cares what the rest of the planet thinks.

That is just beyond naive.  We live in a global socio-economic/political environment.   The nations are interdependent in many ways.   Although we are arguably the strongest nation, the USA is NOT independent of the rest of the planet.    And we are NOT in a position where we can just demand and the rest of the planet complies.   We necessarily negotiate and influence and for that to work well we need to have good relationships ... not the kind of strained relationships that Trump is gratuitously and irresponsibly forging.

Probably not because Biden had the almighty D.

The analysis you offer is both simplistic and flawed.   You seem to think that everyone views everything through a partisan lens.   Just because you (almost certainly) do so, does not mean that everyone does (thankfully).   I have found that partisans typically cannot even conceive what non-partisan actually means much less believe anyone can operate outside of the simplistic, robotic partisan framework that so many seem to follow.

Bottom line, this has nothing whatsoever to do with political parties and everything to do with international relationships.   Trump is on a path to do serious damage to our international relationships and it would be really great if people like you would attempt to begin to understand the consequences.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.3.3  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @3.3.2    13 hours ago
Just because you (almost certainly) do so

As you do.

"I have found that partisans typically cannot even conceive what non-partisan actually means much less believe anyone can operate outside of the simplistic, robotic partisan framework that so many seem to follow."

I find the same with individuals that claim to be non partisan but just can't seem to find the criticism for one of the two parties.

"Trump is on a path to do serious damage to our international relationships and it would be really great if people like you would attempt to begin to understand the consequences."

Doubtful. He did no such thing during his first term. He actually did better than his predecessor, but because his predecessor had a D, you will probably not agree.[]

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.3.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  bugsy @3.3    12 hours ago
Absolutely nobody cares what the rest of the planet thinks.

The rest of the planet watches out for their own.  If the Americans elect a president they can run roughshod over they love the guy and if they can't they are upset by it.  

No patriotic American cares

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.3.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.3.1    12 hours ago
but some of us are concerned about more than our own country,

I would love to see a politician run on that platform.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.3.6  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.3.5    6 hours ago

I suppose you're right when it comes to America, concern only for one's own country is similar to concern only for one's own self, as in "personal rights and freedom".  However, there have been politicians that have indicated concern for the world as a whole.  One example was the late Prime Minister Lester B. Pearson who was instrumental in creating the UN Peacekeeping Force. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4  Hal A. Lujah    yesterday

Great.  My kids tell me that their dna profile indicates we have danish ancestry.  When this mentally challenged man-baby doesn’t get what he wants he’ll probably try to have us deported.

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.1  Kavika   replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    yesterday

LOL, don’t worry about it Hal, since by ancestors predate Columbus by 15,000 years you can be part of our extended family and we can deport motor mouth.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Kavika @4.1    yesterday

Yes, and where does it stop, anyways?  It is pretty offensive to pretend that “Discoverers” discovered places that were already occupied by foreigners.  I recently got pretty sick of hearing about how Captain Cook “discovered” a Hawaiian island.  No, it was long occupied before that.

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.1.2  Kavika   replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.1.1    yesterday

Cook was a thousand years too late and he did get his just due, the Hawaiians killed him.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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5  Gsquared    yesterday

If Trump initiates a military conflict with Denmark over Greenland, as he has threatened to do, that would put the U.S. in conflict with NATO.  NATO Article 5 states that an armed attack on one NATO member is considered an attack on all members, and obligates NATO members to engage in collective defense.  Denmark is a founding member of NATO.  Thus, an attack on Greenland would put the U.S. at war with the U.K., France, Germany, etc.  This is what Trump cultists voted for.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gsquared @5    yesterday

Add Canasa to that NATO list.  And I'm sure that China wouldn't defend Trump, and if China doesn't, neither will Russia and other ASEAN nations.  

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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6  Jack_TX    yesterday

He wants to annex Greenland.

But it was too cold outside for his inauguration.  South of the Mason Dixon Line.

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Buzz of the Orient
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6.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Jack_TX @6    yesterday

It isn't easy to play golf in an overcoat.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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6.1.1  Jack_TX  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.1    yesterday
It isn't easy to play golf in an overcoat.

I should be more embarrassed than I am to admit that I have tried.......

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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6.1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Jack_TX @6.1.1    yesterday

Now THAT'S what I call a DEDICATED golfer.  LOL

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7  seeder  JohnRussell    yesterday
President  Donald Trump  doubled down on his longshot dream of Canada becoming part of the United States in a Friday press conference.

Speaking ahead of his tour of North Carolina and the damage done by Hurricane Helene, Trump took questions from the press and was asked about his comments on Canada becoming a U.S. state. The president argued Canadians would see a big tax cut and “better health coverage.”

He said Canada was trying to be part of a Coast Guard deal but he only likes dealing with Canada “if they’re a state” rather than a nation.

Trump said:

We are going to order 40 Coast Guard — big ice breakers, big ones, and all of a sudden Canada wants a piece of the deal. I said why are we doing that? I like doing that if they are a state, but I don’t like doing that if they are a nation.

And they’re very nasty to us on trade. Historically, Canada has been very bad, very unfair to us on trade. We’ll see how it all works out.

I would love to see Canada be the 51st state. The Canadian citizens, if that happened, would get a big tax cut, tremendous tax cut, because they’re very highly taxed. You wouldn’t have to worry about military, you wouldn’t have to worry about many of the things, you would have better health coverage, you would have much better health coverage.

So I think the people of Canada would like it, you know, if it’s explained. But just to start off, they’d have a massive tax cut and they’d have a lot more business because then we’d let business go to Canada routinely and there’d be no tariffs.

Trump has repeatedly floated the idea of Canada giving up being an independent country since his election victory.

“The United States can no longer suffer the massive Trade Deficits and Subsidies that Canada needs to stay afloat. Justin Trudeau knew this, and resigned,” he wrote on   Truth Social   this month. “If Canada merged with the U.S., there would be no Tariffs, taxes would go way down, and they would be TOTALLY SECURE from the threat of the Russian and Chinese Ships that are constantly surrounding them. Together, what a great Nation it would be!!!”

Canadian Prime Minister   Justin Trudeau , who announced his resignation this month, said there’s “not a snowball’s chance in hell” Canada would become part of the United States.

“There isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell that Canada would become part of the United States,” he   wrote   on X in response to Trump. “Workers and communities in both our countries benefit from being each other’s biggest trading and security partner.”

Watch above via   Fox News .

The post  Trump Doubles Down On Canada Becoming America’s 51st State: ‘People of Canada Would Like It’  first appeared on  Mediaite .
 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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7.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JohnRussell @7    yesterday

 Canadians would see better healthcare coverage?!  They’d lose their homes just trying to afford the premiums.  Pure trolling from the dumbest fuck on earth.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @7.1    yesterday
nadians would see better healthcare coverage?!

They'd actually be able to see a doctor whose job wasn't to literally kill them. Their suicide program works gangbusters at least. 

Only 57 weeks to see an orthopaedic surgeon after a referral.  Hell of a system..

It's a little over two weeks in the US, for comparison. 

Check out what happened when a new family doctor came to a town  and opened up 500 appointments.  Pretty much the entire town lined up in the freezing cold, desperate for a primary care physician. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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7.1.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.1    yesterday

Humans live in accordance with their means.  Imagine you’re already living close to paycheck to paycheck, or saving for retirement, then someone has the brilliant idea to require you to pay $1,000(+) per person per month to get healthcare, when you’re used to paying nothing.  I don’t care how “bad” Canadian healthcare is, nothing makes up for the exorbitant cost of US healthcare.  We have a long (legal) history of holding the health of our citizenry hostage for cash.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @7.1.2    yesterday
when you’re used to paying nothing.

Canada has higher taxes. Nothing is free. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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7.1.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.1    yesterday
They'd actually be able to see a doctor whose job wasn't to literally kill them.

Generally, the U.S. performs worse in long-term health outcomes measures (such as life expectancy) , certain treatment outcomes (such as maternal mortality and congestive heart failure hospital admissions), some patient safety measures (such as obstetric trauma with instrument and medication or treatment errors), and patient experiences of not getting care due to cost.

How does the quality of the U.S. health system compare to other countries? - Peterson-KFF Health System Tracker

Only 57 weeks to see an orthopaedic surgeon after a referral.  Hell of a system.. It's a little over two weeks in the US, for comparison.

How about for the American who doesn't have health insurance or has a very high deductible he can't afford? How long will it take for him to save up enough to get a surgeon? Or should the American just wait till they're eligible for Medicare to schedule their orthopedic surgery? Of course, if they do that the average is a 5 month wait. So, they only had to live with pain for a year or two till they're eligible for Medicare and then its only another 5 months or so till they can get their new hip! Hell of a system!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7.1.5  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.3    yesterday
"Canada has higher taxes. Nothing is free." 

Those "higher taxes" are quite affordable.  They cost me a lot less than the value of the free medical and hospital care and free prescription drugs that I received in Canada.  Poor people pay much less or even NO taxes, BUT THEY STILL HAVE FREE HEALTHCARE.  

Is there ANYTHING your comments are not critical of?

 
 
 
Freefaller
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7.1.6  Freefaller  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.1    yesterday
Only 57 weeks to see an orthopaedic surgeon after a referral.

None of the three times I've had to see an orthopaedic surgeon did I have to wait 57 weeks.  Number 4 and 5 surgeries are scheduled for next month (also without a 57 week wait)

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.7  Kavika   replied to  Freefaller @7.1.6    yesterday

Seems that he gets his information from Fox News, Freefaller.

BTW stay off the damn porches with ice on them. 

Hope that all goes well my friend.

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.8  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.3    yesterday

Yes, they have higher taxes but what they get in return for those taxes is a lot more then the US gets for ours,

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.1.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7.1.5    yesterday
  They cost me a lot less than the value of the free medical and hospital care and free prescription drugs that I received in Canada 

Then a more productive citizen paid for for you. 

Poor people pay much less or even NO taxes, BUT THEY STILL HAVE FREE HEALTHCARE.  

If the spend money, they pay a federal sales tax that goes to health care.

ANYTHING your comments are not critical of

Honest comments.  Lies like "free healthcare" should be addressed each time.  It's always paid for. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.1.10  Sean Treacy  replied to  Kavika @7.1.7    yesterday
ems that he gets his information from Fox News, Freefaller.

Or I know how averages work.

 
 
 
Freefaller
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7.1.11  Freefaller  replied to  Kavika @7.1.7    yesterday
Hope that all goes well my friend.

Thanks, me too

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.12  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.1    yesterday
Based on a minimum adequate population-to-primary care physician ratio of 3,500 to 1, estimates that the United States needs 13,075 additional physicians to remove all primary care shortage designations.

Really, a shortage in PC in Canada, tell me it isn’t true. The greatest nation on earth doesn’t have that problem. /s

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.13  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.10    yesterday

You do, amazing you know how to work abacus.,

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.1.14  Sean Treacy  replied to  Kavika @7.1.13    yesterday

I also know what anecdotal evidence is. Let me know if you need help with it. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7.1.15  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.9    yesterday
"It's always paid for." 

If my taxes were a little more because it helped to pay for those who could not afford to pay taxes, let alone a visit to a doctor, it was my pleasure to do so.  It sounds to me that you think I should resent that expense.  Even although I've been an expat for more than 18 years, I still pay taxes to the Canadian government, and I don't resent it at all.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.1.16  Sean Treacy  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7.1.15    yesterday
it helped to pay for those who could not afford to pay taxes, let alone a visit to a doctor, it was my pleasure to do so

But you just claimed other people paid for your health care.  

It sounds to me that you think I should resent that expense.

Again, you claimed to be the free rider, not someone who paid more than their fair share. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.17  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.14    yesterday
I also know what anecdotal evidence is. Let me know if you need help with it.

I most certainly will, but at present I’m seeing how the shortage of PC in Canada is vs the US….Seems the US is in worse shape. 

Cheers.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.1.18  Sean Treacy  replied to  Kavika @7.1.17    yesterday
S….Seems the US is in worse shape. 

Except, of course, it's not. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.19  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.18    yesterday

Canada could cure their shortage in a minute if they lifted the the ban on number of students that can enter med school as compared to other industrialized counties this is unique to say the least. Also they are the only country that does not have a two tier system.  Both private and public. IMO, the two best would be France and Australia.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7.1.20  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.16    yesterday

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shona1
Professor Quiet
7.1.21  shona1  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.18    yesterday

Arvo...I think the US health system needs a doctor..

So glad I live here and not there...

All up it would be around $500,000 so far for all the treatments I have had..and still on going..cost $0..and no I don't pay tax anymore as I am retired..

There you would be forking out mega $$... Or be either dead, in debt to the eyeballs or depending on your insurance company determining if they think you are worth it or not..

Everyone pays a Medicare levy here 2% on your taxable income. If you are below the threshold you are exempt and if you want private health insurance it is available..

No I did not begrudge paying the levy for myself or my fellow Aussies and no one even bats an eyelid about it.. it's accepted and no one whinges about it..

So compare the pair...we win hands down..

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @7    yesterday
"The post  Trump Doubles Down On Canada Becoming America’s 51st State: ‘People of Canada Would Like It’  first appeared on  Mediaite "

Being a Canadian I would say to Trump: "Go fuck yourself you ignorant tyrant!!"

 
 
 
Thomas
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7.2.1  Thomas  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7.2    yesterday
Being a Canadian I would say to Trump: "Go fuck yourself you ignorant tyrant!!"

Hell, I say that as an American.

 
 

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