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WHY ? WHY ? WHY ?

  
By:  John Russell  •  2 months ago  •  40 comments


WHY  ?  WHY ?  WHY ?
 

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This is a question for all the MAGAs and Trump bootlickers on Newstalkers  -

This afternoon the FBI turned over information, that can be used to identify them,  on all the FBI agents that participated in any way in investigating the J6 rioters and insurrectionists, as per the demand made by the Trump, Musk, Vance, and Patel cabal.  

Please try and justify this , use any words you like, but don't hem or haw or beat around the bush.  What legitimate purpose is there to identifying and eventually naming individual agents who were simply doing their job? 


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    2 months ago

I am curious to see what you think.

 
 
 
fineline
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1.1  fineline  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 months ago

  You and I both! When Kelly Anne Conway made that stupid statement "alternate facts" it opened the flood gate for the pent up emotions of every white Christian nationalist, klan member and corporate thief beginning with Reagan.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  fineline @1.1    2 months ago
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fineline
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1.1.2  fineline  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.1    2 months ago

FASCIST. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.1    2 months ago

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Greg Jones
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1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 months ago

I guess they want to find out if any laws were broken or if there is any evidence of malicious prosecution.

I'm sure they will be treated more fairly than the J6 defendants were. Lots of irregularities in that investigation

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    2 months ago
I guess they want to find out if any laws were broken or if there is any evidence of malicious prosecution.

You mean they want to have accountability?  Hold Democrats accountable?  That explains all the outrage from the left.

Lots of irregularities in that investigation

And more and more is identified as time goes on.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.2.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    2 months ago
I guess they want to find out if any laws were broken or if there is any evidence of malicious prosecution.

So what is the probable cause for thinking there was any impropriety and not just they dared to investigate Trump?  Or are they going to investigate every single other FBI investigation as well?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.3  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.2.1    2 months ago

What does that have to do with identifying 5000 individual agents ?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.3    2 months ago

Accountability.  Something that has been sorely lacking from the Democrats for a very long time.

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.2.5  Thomas  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.2.4    2 months ago
Accountability

Yes, accountability for holding loyalty to the Constitution and the rule of law above fealty to Trump. 

Something that has been sorely lacking from the Democrats for a very long time

Prove that the agents in question are Democrats and prove that they were acting out of malice towards the president. That is what you need to do to prove that your statement is more than gas passing by butt cheeks. The very fact that Trump wants to know who did the investigations points towards persecution and a perversion of the justice system. It sends the intended message of "watch that you don't investigate the wrong (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) people. It is an attempt to define criminality by association, not by law. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.6  Split Personality  replied to  Thomas @1.2.5    2 months ago

The FBI has historically been overwhelmingly, a stick up the ass conservative LEO that never discriminated between wrong doers especially Democratic Congress people.

While today's force has more diversity, it has none the less, never had a Director who wasn't a Congressionally approved Republican.

While the typical "deployment" for an FBI  Director is 10 years to avoid Presidential elections, Wray, a Republican at the end of his year eight, resigned so the trump could appoint a more favorable republican, completely nullifying the concept of the ten year term and non political appearance.

But the followers of Trump are certain the FBI is a liberal hell hole because Donald said so.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.3  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 months ago
I am curious to see what you think.

The FBI cannot be allowed to become a paramilitary secret police that protects autonomous power within government that functions as a 4th branch.  There is not a 4th branch of government.  The Attorney General does not have more autonomous power than elected government.  

Democrats recognize the power of unelected government and have granted that unelected government a large amount of autonomy..  Democrats have been using the power of autonomous unelected government in the same manner Democrats used the Ku Klux Klan.

 
 
 
fineline
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1.3.1  fineline  replied to  Nerm_L @1.3    2 months ago

In the same manner Trump used and will use again the paramilitary forces of the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys!

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.4  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 months ago

"I am curious to see what you think."

That certainly cannot be directed at the the non Democrat conservatives on NT.

 
 
 
JBB
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1.4.1  JBB  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.4    2 months ago

Meaning what? 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.4.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JBB @1.4.1    2 months ago

It means exactly what it said.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2  Buzz of the Orient    2 months ago

I think Trump wants to present them with the Presidential Medal of Freedom.  NOT!!!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3  Right Down the Center    2 months ago

It is ridiculous. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    2 months ago

To find out how 5,000 agents were somehow tasked to work on a single riot  in one of the greatest misallocations of resources in American history. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    2 months ago

You think 5000 agents need to be individually "interviewed" ?  Lol

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    2 months ago

Maybe. Start with knowing who was involved, what their roles were and then figure out who needs to be interviewed.

It's preposterous that 5,000 agents were involved. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    2 months ago

Why stop there?  Arrest the surviving Capitol police as well, and charge them with preventing the magats' personal rights and freedoms to break into the Capitol Building.  I watched it on TV - it was horrendous how those police tried to stop the rioters from their God-given right to create havoc.  Did I say "God-given"?  Sorry, I meant "Trump-given".

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.3  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.1    2 months ago

Ridiculous

 
 
 
Thomas
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4.1.4  Thomas  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.1.2    2 months ago
Did I say "God-given"?  Sorry, I meant "Trump-given".

As Sir Patrick of SpongeBob would say, "What's the difference?" 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.1.5  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Thomas @4.1.4    2 months ago
"What's the difference?"

To too many, little, and to some, none. 

 
 
 
Thomas
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5  Thomas    2 months ago

They can't justify it, because there is no justification.

When they investigated Trump, they uncovered criminal actions which formed the first the outlines and then the totality of the case against Donald Trump. Why? Because that is what they are supposed to do. But minions and dickhead in chief don't care. They want to persecute them because of the temerity to follow where the evidence leads. No surprise that they uncovered a lot of shit on him. 

Trump belongs in jail, and so do many of his supporters.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Thomas @5    2 months ago

The magas here need to answer this. .  My answer would be that Trump wants the option of firing all of them.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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6  Robert in Ohio    2 months ago

It is a competition for agent of the decade and they are identifying semi-finalists

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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7  Hal A. Lujah    2 months ago

How else are the hundreds of violent shitbag Trump supporters released from prison supposed to justify personally having this information?  Make it public so the fact that these mercenaries already have it looks less conspiratorial.  Then fire the fbi list so they won’t be armed 24/7.  Do not be surprised when this mob is activated.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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7.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @7    2 months ago

I think a lot of FBI agents have off-duty weapons. I wouldn't want to run the risk of going after a fired FBI agent knowing she or he has a weapon already loaded

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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7.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1    2 months ago

My stepson is a FBI special agent.  I don’t know what he is packing other than his service weapon but he was renting a room a while back to another female FBI special agent and she had some scary guns.  She is a badass who wouldn’t think twice about cutting an intruder in half.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8  author  JohnRussell    2 months ago

Latest Trump insanity  -  He wants the United States to take over Gaza and own it. He said just a few minutes ago in his joint press conference with Netanyahu.  Trump wants it developed, almost certainly into a paradise for the wealthy.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @8    2 months ago

Trump City baby .

 
 
 
fineline
Freshman Silent
8.1.1  fineline  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1    2 months ago

If only the SoB would move there.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
8.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @8    2 months ago

And....he's going to rid Gaza of all Palestinians. His words were shocking

 
 
 
freepress
Freshman Silent
9  freepress    2 months ago

MAGA was so afraid of the "Deep State" and now that it truly has arrived there is no push back at all.

Musk took your data, banking, loan, personal info and accessed everything, so why isn't MAGA storming the Capitol again??

Why aren't any of them more terrified now? Daddy Trump will let Musk do whatever with your data. 

Why bother with securing your devices when Musk can manipulate at will? Trump doesn't know what Musk is truly capable of.

Why bother screaming "Constitution" at the "libs" when clearly the Constitution just got thrown in the trash can.

When Trump said "don't worry about voting, this will be the last one you need to worry about" he wasn't kidding.

Even if MAGA gets a clue it's too late now.

In fact why bother voting at the state level if Republicans plan on gerrymandering to remain in power forever. If we are allowed different political parties at all.

Does anyone believe that now the Independent Party or the Libertarian Party will ever stand a chance?

They plan on forcing an authoritarian dictatorship where only a Republican can be in office from the state level all the way to a perpetual "presidency." America isn't going to be great, it's going to be gone.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
9.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  freepress @9    2 months ago

I bet they change the name to the People's Party

 
 
 
fineline
Freshman Silent
9.2  fineline  replied to  freepress @9    2 months ago

The so-called "deep state" consists of cadre of billionaires Trump has assembled to castrate the government, reinforced with the knuckle head MAGA crowd.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
10  Bob Nelson    2 months ago

Intimidation 

 
 

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