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The Associated Press issued this statement on Tuesday from Executive Editor Julie Pace:
As a global news organization, The Associated Press informs billions of people around the world every day with factual, nonpartisan journalism.
Today we were informed by the White House that if AP did not align its editorial standards with President Donald Trump’s executive order renaming the Gulf of Mexico as the Gulf of America, AP would be barred from accessing an event in the Oval Office. This afternoon AP’s reporter was blocked from attending an executive order signing.
It is alarming that the Trump administration would punish AP for its independent journalism. Limiting our access to the Oval Office based on the content of AP’s speech not only severely impedes the public’s access to independent news, it plainly violates the First Amendment.
Yet there are members on this site who are NOT critical of Trump but are critical of Xi JInping and the Chinese government - just another example of hypocrisy.
t there are members on this site who are NOT critical of Trump but are critical of Xi JInping and the Chinese government - just another example of hypocrisy.
This is funny. Imagine not being critical of XI but criticizing Trump for not being supportive of free speech.
You agree with this idiot banning the world's largest news organization because they won't go along with his megalomaniac decree renaming the Gulf of Mexico ?
ou agree with this idiot banning the world's largest news organization because they won't go along with his megalomaniac decree renaming the Gulf of Mexico ?
No, I just don't think it's the end of the world or a dictatorship. The AP can blast away at trump to its heart's content.
pushing to take control over Gaza, displace all 2 million residents, build a Riviera of Middle East?
imposing gratuitous tariffs that are harming international relationships, triggering a trade war, and will do the exact opposite of the main reason he was elected: to lower prices?
using the DoJ to go after those who worked on his prosecution?
You agree with this idiot banning the world's largest news organization because they won't go along with his megalomaniac decree renaming the Gulf of Mexico ?
Which I would like to point out is why the right hates Dr. Fauci so much, he refused to endorse trump's ridiculous "treatments" for covid.
Today we were informed by the White House that if AP did not align its editorial standards with President Donald Trump’s executive order renaming the Gulf of Mexico as the Gulf of America, AP would be barred from accessing an event in the Oval Office.
Today we were informed by the White House that if AP did not align its editorial standards with President Donald Trump’s executive order renaming the Gulf of Mexico as the Gulf of America , AP would be barred from accessing an event in the Oval Office. This afternoon AP’s reporter was blocked from attending an executive order signing. It is alarming that the Trump administration would punish AP for its independent journalism. Limiting our access to the Oval Office based on the content of AP’s speech not only severely impedes the public’s access to independent news, it plainly violates the First Amendment.
and this ...
President Donald Trump has signed an executive order to rename the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America. The body of water has shared borders between the U.S. and Mexico. Trump’s order only carries authority within the United States. Mexico, as well as other countries and international bodies, do not have to recognize the name change . The Gulf of Mexico has carried that name for more than 400 years. The Associated Press will refer to it by its original name while acknowledging the new name Trump has chosen. As a global news agency that disseminates news around the world, the AP must ensure that place names and geography are easily recognizable to all audiences.
You defend Trump on this??
AP has to prove that was the reason.
A denial tactic. Now whenever Trump does something wrong even the most credible organizations must (somehow) prove every detail to you? Do you think the AP is lying about the above (the quotes I included)? Now that is bullshit, Vic.
Trump will continue to make stupid moves and act like he is Emperor. It will grow increasingly difficult to defend this buffoon.
The lack of logic is amazing. It is as though the hypocrisy does not even register. How can anyone support Trump yet demand that others must prove every word? Especially when the reasoning is that they were not 100% perfect in their reporting.
If one supports Trump, one implicitly condones incessant, outrageous lying.
The AP has every right to call the Gulf the Gulf of Mexico.
What they are doing is calling it by the name that every other nation calls it other than the USA. But they also note that the USA calls it the Gulf of America. This is correct and proper. Trump, however, is behaving like a petulant child and throwing a tantrum because the AP will not override the views of the balance of the planet and long-established history of over 400 years and EXCLUSIVELY use Trump's pointless renaming of an international body of water.
This is the idiot you voted for and support.
And Trump has every right to ban them from an event.
Yes he does. That is the problem. You, et. al. have empowered this irresponsible narcissist.
Trump said we don't even have to pay for it either because "There's nothing to buy". A so-called real estate developer who thinks beach front property doesn't have to be paid for. We can take it because of "U.S. authority". If a hurricane knocks down Mar-a-Lago, I'm going to take it and own it because there's nothing to buy.
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Rep. Earl L. “Buddy” Carter (R-GA) released the following statement today after introducing a bill authorizing President Trump to acquire Greenland and renaming it Red, White, and Blueland:
“America is back and will soon be bigger than ever with the addition of Red, White, and Blueland. President Trump has correctly identified the purchase of what is now Greenland as a national security priority, and we will proudly welcome its people to join the freest nation to ever exist when our Negotiator-in-Chief inks this monumental deal.”
I remember when the right wing had a meltdown when Obama just took less questions from a Fox News reporter. One would have thought it was the end of democracy...
I asked Gemini (an AI chatbot plugin for Internet browsers):
Conversation with Gemini: How does the US government decide geographical names?
The U.S. government, specifically the U.S. Board on Geographic Names (BGN), is responsible for deciding geographical names. Here's a breakdown of the process:
1. The U.S. Board on Geographic Names (BGN)
The BGN is a federal body established in 1890. It comprises representatives from various federal agencies.
Their primary role is to standardize and maintain consistent geographic name usage across the federal government. This includes approving new names, resolving name discrepancies, and recording existing names.
2. How the BGN Works
Public Proposals: Anyone can propose a new name or a name change for a geographic feature. This usually involves submitting a proposal to the BGN.
Review and Research: The BGN's Domestic Names Committee (DNC) reviews these proposals. They conduct thorough research, which may include:
Consulting local governments, state authorities, and relevant land-managing agencies.
Engaging with Native American tribes if the name might affect or be related to their cultural heritage.
Considering public input and local usage.
Decision: The DNC then makes a decision, aiming to balance various factors like local usage, historical significance, and avoiding offensive or duplicate names.
Federal Use: Once a name is approved by the BGN, it becomes the official name for federal publications, maps, and other documents.
3. Key Considerations
Local Usage: The BGN often prioritizes names that are already in common local use.
Historical Significance: They may consider the historical context and significance of a place when making decisions.
Avoiding Offence: The BGN aims to avoid names that are offensive or discriminatory.
Commemoration: There are specific guidelines for commemorative names, often requiring the person to be deceased for a certain period and to have had a significant connection to the place.
4. Limitations
BGN decisions primarily apply to federal usage. While influential, they don't always dictate local or private usage.
In some cases, especially those involving federal lands named by Congress, the BGN's authority might be limited, and an act of Congress might be required for a name change.
In summary, the process is designed to be thorough and consider various perspectives, ensuring that geographic names reflect both local usage and broader historical and cultural contexts.
Sources and related content
Records of the Board on Geographic Names [BGN] - National Archives
www.archives.gov
Geographic Names - Office of Policy (U.S. National Park Service)
www.nps.gov
U.S. Board on Geographic Names - USGS.gov
www.usgs.gov
Domestic Names | U.S. Geological Survey - USGS.gov
www.usgs.gov
Colorado Geographic Naming Advisory Board | Department of Natural Resources
dnr.colorado.gov
That sounds like a fairly reasonable process... but that's not what actually happened. The President decreed that the name is changed.
BGN decisions primarily apply to federal usage. While influential, they don't always dictate local or private usage.
So... The AP, or anyone, can use whatever name they please. The "Presidential decree" is binding only for federal personnel.
What's odd, despite the title and whining in this "article" everything I can find is that a reporter (singular) was banned. Not much of a "1st Amendment violation" some have made this out to be.
You approve of the PotUS banning an AP reporter because his company (AP) has a policy to call the Gulf of Mexico by its established international name while noting the USA name for it?
Note also that Trump did not ban an individual but rather the AP itself. If they send in a new reporter for the White House, that new individual is also banned because the AP policy has not changed.
So Trump banned the AP. Do you support this?
And do you support the unnecessary and pointless problems (like this) that Trump causes?
Reporters and reporting agencies have no “rights” to report at the Whitehouse. And Trump has the right to disallow any of them.
That said, the Trump administration has been more transparent in his short time in office than Biden was his entire presidency. Didn’t see you pissing and moaning about that much the previous four years. Reporters have already had copious chances to engage with the Trump admin.
Some AP reporter got their panties in a bunch? Whoopee fuckin do.
An AP reporter and an AP photographer were barred from AF1 Friday afternoon and prevented from travelling with the POTUS this weekend.
According to Trump it was over the non recognition of the Gulf of America.
The AP ban, quickly grew in scale.
In a post on X , White House deputy chief of staff Taylor Budowich wrote, "The Associated Press continues to ignore the lawful geographic name change of the Gulf of America. This decision is not just divisive, but it also exposes the Associated Press' commitment to misinformation. While their right to irresponsible and dishonest reporting is protected by the First Amendment, it does not ensure their privilege of unfettered access to limited spaces, like the Oval Office and Air Force One. Going forward, that space will now be opened up to the many thousands of reporters who have been barred from covering these intimate areas of the administration."
The revenge and retribution parade stoops to the level of childish and petty behavior by the petulant new dictator of America. I suppose the good news is that no one was jailed over this breach of "etiquette".
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Have a request for our friends here who live outside the US. I know that when I pull up Google maps I see that the name has been changed to the Gulf of America. Does it also show that for you who live outside the US? (and of course have access to Google as I don't know if it's blocked in any country).
Thanks. That's interesting as I have a VPN which tells me I'm based out of Texas yet when I pull it up on Google it shows as the Gulf of America. I don't know exactly where in Texas this VPN is based out of but I suspect it's Dallas.
Satellite Pro shows it as the Gulf of Mexico, don't know where that's built from. And NESDIS when I first pull up has it labeled as the Gulf of Mexico but then all waterway names disappear.
That's simply not true.
How in the world can some restrictions on access be equated to a violation of the First Amendment?
100%. Viewpoint discrimination by the government is never ok.
Yet there are members on this site who are NOT critical of Trump but are critical of Xi JInping and the Chinese government - just another example of hypocrisy.
This is funny. Imagine not being critical of XI but criticizing Trump for not being supportive of free speech.
Who gives a shit? You have your mentally deficient dictator. Be happy.
Musk held a very serious press conference today with a four year old boy perched on his shoulders. What a country !
When did he start imprisoning journalists and making women wear bonnets again? None of these predictions ever seem to come true.
Who gives a shit about that?
You agree with this idiot banning the world's largest news organization because they won't go along with his megalomaniac decree renaming the Gulf of Mexico ?
Defenses of Trump are increasingly farcical.
No, I just don't think it's the end of the world or a dictatorship. The AP can blast away at trump to its heart's content.
I can't decide whether the Trump Administration is more like a Saturday Night Live skit a Mad Magazine parody or a Marx Brothers movie
It's more like bubonic plague.
Why should I be critical of Trump? He's doing what he was elected to do. A majority of Americans agree
The kid has an interesting name (Hint: It's not "The Gulf Of America"..not "The Gulf of Mexico"-- who would name a kid something like that?)
Anyone with the new strain of TDS, MDS.
Did your ears burn when you read my comment?
Do you agree with Trump ...
Which I would like to point out is why the right hates Dr. Fauci so much, he refused to endorse trump's ridiculous "treatments" for covid.
Trump devotion syndrome is destroying the country.
You mean the end of democracy again?
That child is his and who cares about that?
What is important is what he put out....namely things that triggered the left once again.
Did John say that? He didn't even imply it. But it's not a good sign when a POTUS dictates to the free press
But that can be cured
Many folk care about Trump and Musk trying to turn the US into a far right wing fascist country.
Not since Hitler and Mussolini has the world seen such an attempt at destroying democracy in the name of autocratic authoritarian rule.
These society destroying dictators both died of gunshot and the world became a better place.....for awhile.
Strikes me as closer to a "Mr Bean" movie.
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AP has to prove that was the reason.
They were barred from an event? Which one?
Read the official statement from the AP:
and this ...
You defend Trump on this??
A denial tactic. Now whenever Trump does something wrong even the most credible organizations must (somehow) prove every detail to you? Do you think the AP is lying about the above (the quotes I included)? Now that is bullshit, Vic.
Trump will continue to make stupid moves and act like he is Emperor. It will grow increasingly difficult to defend this buffoon.
hmmmm....It got very quiet in here
This is why the AP is no longer credible:
The 3 Most Critical Lies the AP Told About the Supposed Trump National Guard Order
They must prove every word.
That is absurd. No real-time news organization is 100% perfect in its reporting. Making mistakes is not lying.
Per your logic, every report by every organization needs to prove every word. If that is the rule, then start with Trump. Good luck.
When does Trump have to start proving every word? The defenses of trump went beyond ridiculous long time ago
The lack of logic is amazing. It is as though the hypocrisy does not even register. How can anyone support Trump yet demand that others must prove every word? Especially when the reasoning is that they were not 100% perfect in their reporting.
If one supports Trump, one implicitly condones incessant, outrageous lying.
Love to see Fox spews prove every word.
Look at it this way John: The AP has every right to call the Gulf the Gulf of Mexico.
And Trump has every right to ban them from an event.
What they are doing is calling it by the name that every other nation calls it other than the USA. But they also note that the USA calls it the Gulf of America. This is correct and proper. Trump, however, is behaving like a petulant child and throwing a tantrum because the AP will not override the views of the balance of the planet and long-established history of over 400 years and EXCLUSIVELY use Trump's pointless renaming of an international body of water.
This is the idiot you voted for and support.
Yes he does. That is the problem. You, et. al. have empowered this irresponsible narcissist.
Someone else made a comparison to escalating behavior emulating Putin.
It's more reminiscent of childish third word banana republics run by two bit thugs.
I sense yet another lawsuit against this Administration.
More evidence that Trump fancies himself Emperor of the USA.
And Trump supporters just keep on defending this emboldened and empowered narcissist.
True, now we are just going to take Gaza, with Israel's blessing, no contract needed.
Trump said we don't even have to pay for it either because "There's nothing to buy". A so-called real estate developer who thinks beach front property doesn't have to be paid for. We can take it because of "U.S. authority". If a hurricane knocks down Mar-a-Lago, I'm going to take it and own it because there's nothing to buy.
"Take" is an interesting word.
Does it mean that the Gazans now living there will just gladly hand it over?
It sounds like most of them won't be willing to hand it over willingly, which probsably means we'd have to take it by force.
Do we really want to send American kids to fight (and die) in Gaza-- so Jared can have a place to build some nice hotels?
Maybe he'll say no one knew a thing about Gaza until he invented the word.
It's the best word. No one has ever invented a better word.
No one has ever invented a better word.
Well, have you heard of Red, White and Blueland?
There won't be much fight in the taking, but generations of new violence in the holding.
I have.
There is no shortage of stupid in the MAGA crowd.
That sounds illegal
that's fucking insane
Well after all-- nobody knows more about Gaza than Donald Trump!
No, but thanks for letting me know! Those Republicans have a really good sense of humor, don't they?
This is a sick individual.
Unfortunately
many of the things he said
he believes
and will practice, such as economic warfare against our allies by hitting them with tariffs
and today threatening the UK with devaluation by manipulating the value of the US dollar.
God help us all.
I remember when the right wing had a meltdown when Obama just took less questions from a Fox News reporter. One would have thought it was the end of democracy...
I remember when the right wing went all hair-on-fire when Obama wore a tan suit. And the time he wore "mom" jeans.
I asked Gemini (an AI chatbot plugin for Internet browsers):
Conversation with Gemini: How does the US government decide geographical names?
The U.S. government, specifically the U.S. Board on Geographic Names (BGN), is responsible for deciding geographical names. Here's a breakdown of the process:
1. The U.S. Board on Geographic Names (BGN)
The BGN is a federal body established in 1890. It comprises representatives from various federal agencies.
Their primary role is to standardize and maintain consistent geographic name usage across the federal government. This includes approving new names, resolving name discrepancies, and recording existing names.
2. How the BGN Works
Public Proposals: Anyone can propose a new name or a name change for a geographic feature. This usually involves submitting a proposal to the BGN.
Review and Research: The BGN's Domestic Names Committee (DNC) reviews these proposals. They conduct thorough research, which may include:
Consulting local governments, state authorities, and relevant land-managing agencies.
Engaging with Native American tribes if the name might affect or be related to their cultural heritage.
Considering public input and local usage.
Decision: The DNC then makes a decision, aiming to balance various factors like local usage, historical significance, and avoiding offensive or duplicate names.
Federal Use: Once a name is approved by the BGN, it becomes the official name for federal publications, maps, and other documents.
3. Key Considerations
Local Usage: The BGN often prioritizes names that are already in common local use.
Historical Significance: They may consider the historical context and significance of a place when making decisions.
Avoiding Offence: The BGN aims to avoid names that are offensive or discriminatory.
Commemoration: There are specific guidelines for commemorative names, often requiring the person to be deceased for a certain period and to have had a significant connection to the place.
4. Limitations
BGN decisions primarily apply to federal usage. While influential, they don't always dictate local or private usage.
In some cases, especially those involving federal lands named by Congress, the BGN's authority might be limited, and an act of Congress might be required for a name change.
In summary, the process is designed to be thorough and consider various perspectives, ensuring that geographic names reflect both local usage and broader historical and cultural contexts.
Sources and related content
Records of the Board on Geographic Names [BGN] - National Archives
www.archives.gov
Geographic Names - Office of Policy (U.S. National Park Service)
www.nps.gov
U.S. Board on Geographic Names - USGS.gov
www.usgs.gov
Domestic Names | U.S. Geological Survey - USGS.gov
www.usgs.gov
Colorado Geographic Naming Advisory Board | Department of Natural Resources
dnr.colorado.gov
That sounds like a fairly reasonable process... but that's not what actually happened. The President decreed that the name is changed.
So... The AP, or anyone, can use whatever name they please. The "Presidential decree" is binding only for federal personnel.
McKinley was an asshole and paid for it with his life.
Always liked the indigenous name Denali. It rolls off the tongue.
What's odd, despite the title and whining in this "article" everything I can find is that a reporter (singular) was banned. Not much of a "1st Amendment violation" some have made this out to be.
You approve of the PotUS banning an AP reporter because his company (AP) has a policy to call the Gulf of Mexico by its established international name while noting the USA name for it?
Note also that Trump did not ban an individual but rather the AP itself. If they send in a new reporter for the White House, that new individual is also banned because the AP policy has not changed.
So Trump banned the AP. Do you support this?
And do you support the unnecessary and pointless problems (like this) that Trump causes?
Despite the title and whining in this "article" everything and what you said, I can find is that a reporter (singular) was banned.
Reporters and reporting agencies have no “rights” to report at the Whitehouse. And Trump has the right to disallow any of them.
That said, the Trump administration has been more transparent in his short time in office than Biden was his entire presidency. Didn’t see you pissing and moaning about that much the previous four years. Reporters have already had copious chances to engage with the Trump admin.
Some AP reporter got their panties in a bunch? Whoopee fuckin do.
Sounds like a constitutional crisis and the end of democracy to me. Not to mention cause for impeachment. S/
Yet another straw on the back of that long suffering camel.
Good use of an idiom, cj.
An AP reporter and an AP photographer were barred from AF1 Friday afternoon and prevented from travelling with the POTUS this weekend.
According to Trump it was over the non recognition of the Gulf of America.
The AP ban, quickly grew in scale.
The revenge and retribution parade stoops to the level of childish and petty behavior by the petulant new dictator of America. I suppose the good news is that no one was jailed over this breach of "etiquette".
Brought to you by the new official communications arm of the White House, X, formerly known as Twitter owned by
the second VP, Elon Musk.
Have a request for our friends here who live outside the US. I know that when I pull up Google maps I see that the name has been changed to the Gulf of America. Does it also show that for you who live outside the US? (and of course have access to Google as I don't know if it's blocked in any country).
Thanks in advance.
I googled it in Texas, maybe I'm too close to Mexico, but it still comes up with Gulf of Mexico and how many more miles of beach that Mexico controls.
Wikipediia is still Gulf of Mexico.
Thanks. That's interesting as I have a VPN which tells me I'm based out of Texas yet when I pull it up on Google it shows as the Gulf of America. I don't know exactly where in Texas this VPN is based out of but I suspect it's Dallas.
Satellite Pro shows it as the Gulf of Mexico, don't know where that's built from. And NESDIS when I first pull up has it labeled as the Gulf of Mexico but then all waterway names disappear.
Thanks for taking the time to look at it.