NYC Mayor Adams says city is at 'breaking point' with arrival of migrants sent from Texas

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  3 months ago  •  208 comments

By:   Paul Best (Fox News)

NYC Mayor Adams says city is at 'breaking point' with arrival of migrants sent from Texas
More than 2,200 migrants have been bused to New York City from Texas since last month, prompting Mayor Eric Adams to say the city is at a "breaking point."

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What is Mayor Adams complaining about, now?  The 'migrants' sent to New York have already been pre-screened.  New York hasn't had to deal with the worst of what's coming across the border.  Adams doesn't have to worry about the 'migrants' sent to New York causing a spike in crime.  If anything, Adams will have to protect these 'migrants' from New Yorkers.

Mayor Adams can't even deal with the easy part.  Whine, whine, whine.  Beg for money, as if New York is the epicenter of poverty in the United States.  Play the victim card.  But, by all means, do everything possible to ignore the real problem.  


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New York City Mayor Eric Adams said Wednesday that the city is at a "breaking point" due to thousands of migrants who have been sent by bus from Texas in recent weeks.

"In the last few months, we have experienced an unprecedented surge of asylum seekers arriving from the southern border," Adams said Wednesday.

"In this new and unforeseen reality, where we expect thousands more to arrive every week going forward, the city's system is nearing its breaking point. As a result, the city's prior practices, which never contemplated the bussing of thousands of people into New York City, must be reassessed."

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has been bussing migrants to New York City; Washington, D.C.; and Chicago in an effort to offer border towns relief and raise awareness about the crisis.

Since early August, Texas has sent more than 2,200 migrants to New York City, 7,900 migrants to the nation's capital and about 300 migrants to Chicago.

"They all are concerned about a few dozen or a few hundred migrants coming to their town," Gov. Abbott told Fox News earlier this week. "We get that many per hour in almost every community across the border. So we're dealing with this all the time."

Washington, D.C., Mayor Muriel Bowser has asked twice for the National Guard to be activated to "help prevent a prolonged humanitarian crisis in our nation's capital resulting from the daily arrival of migrants," but the Pentagon has denied both requests.

Illinois Democratic Gov. J.B. Pritzker said Tuesday that he is activating 75 National Guard troops to assist with the influx of migrants, accusing Gov. Abbott of "a heartless display of politics over people."

There have been more than two million migrant encounters at the southern border so far this fiscal year, a new record high, including more than 200,000 each of the past four months.

New York Mayor Eric Adams speaks during a news conference at City Hall in New York City on Jan. 24, 2022. (REUTERS/Brendan McDermid)

Texas launched Operation Lone Star last year, authorizing the National Guard to crack down on crime at the border.

Since March 2021, more than 302,000 migrants have been apprehended through Operation Lone Star just in Texas, resulting in more than 19,700 criminal arrests and the seizure of 340 million lethal doses of fentanyl, according to Abbott.

Mayor Adams, meanwhile, said that "no city official, advocate, or court ever could have contemplated" the "reality" of the migrant crisis.

A migrant family sits after being processed on May 5, 2022, in Roma, Texas. (Brandon Bell/Getty Images)

"Since May, this administration, on its own, has safely and efficiently provided shelter, health care, education, and a host of other services to more than 11,000 people predominantly from Central and South America who are seeking a better life," Adams said Wednesday.

"While some may want to use these extraordinary circumstances as an opportunity to play an unproductive game of gotcha, we remain focused on supporting each of these individuals and families who need our city's help."


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    3 months ago

Poor, mistreated New York.  It's so unfair.  Bless their hearts.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
2  Jeremy Retired in NC    3 months ago

I thought NYC and Washington DC  are sanctuary cities.  That implies that they can handle the illegals and not need any kind of assistance.  

Oh that's right.  With the sanctuary city declaration they also became part of the NIMBY parasites.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
3  Sean Treacy    3 months ago

The largest city in the country is apparently being brought to its knees by about the same number of immigrants that tiny border cities are asked to handle on a daily basis. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
Masters Guide
3.1  Snuffy  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    3 months ago

You gotta feel bad for those poor bastards in NYC.  I mean, that SOB Abbott sent 2,200 migrants to a city of 18.8 million people and that has almost broken the system in NYC.  How horrible it must be for the citizens who live there.  Of course Adams could always take a page from Chicago and just bus the migrants to other cities in the state...   

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Sophomore Principal
3.1.1  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Snuffy @3.1    3 months ago
I mean, that SOB Abbott sent 2,200 migrants to a city of 18.8 million people and that has almost broken the system in NYC. 

Well.....snicker .....when a State will put anyone "On The System" for any reason what-so-ever...... as New York allows ..... 2,200 more could be a breaking point for them.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5  Texan1211    3 months ago

Looks like many Democratic leaders are whining about a few immigrants showing up on their cities.

When will they take Biden and Harris to task and demand that they do their fucking jobs?

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
5.1  Ronin2  replied to  Texan1211 @5    3 months ago

Never.

They will continue to scream about how unfair Republican governors are for making their cities/states share in the pain of illegal immigration.

Chicago's Mayor already solved the problem by bussing the illegals she received to Republican run suburbs. They should send them right back to her with a note pinned to their shirts, "Do your damn job!"

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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5.2  Jasper2529  replied to  Texan1211 @5    3 months ago
Looks like many Democratic leaders are whining about a few immigrants showing up on their cities. When will they take Biden and Harris to task and demand that they do their fucking jobs?

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New York, MA, and Washington, DC - All run by Democrats. Why are they having meltdowns over a small number of unvetted, unvaxxed "refugees", aka illegal aliens? Why don't they want to pay their "fair share"? Every state and city is now a Biden-created border crisis - step up, pay up, and stop complaining! 

  • Abbott sends 100 illegal aliens to Harris' Naval Observatory front door.

  • DeSantis flies 2 planes of illegal aliens to Martha's Vineyard.

On Wednesday,  Democratic lawmakers  voiced their criticism online after they were forced to act swiftly to provide them shelter, food, blankets and other necessities to the 50 migrants who now reside in their state. Fernandes described the migrant drop-off as "evil and inhumane" and accused Republicans of using human lives "as political pawns."

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.2    3 months ago

Those Democrats seem to be having regrets about their own policies, but stubbornly refuse to change.

Let them deal with some consequences for a change!

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Sophomore Principal
5.2.2  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.1    3 months ago
Those Democrats seem to be having regrets about their own policies, but stubbornly refuse to change.

Future "Democrat" voters are MOST IMPORTANT, more important than actually fixing "An actual REAL Problem" in this country !

They See Nothing, Hear Nothing, Know Nothing, don't even know what anyone else is talking about !

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6  Perrie Halpern R.A.    3 months ago

Nerm,

What a pile of steaming poop. Texas gov is using these people as political chattel. How do I know? Well, Gov DeSantis has now kicked in, and is spending Florida's tax dollars to send migrants to Martha's Vinyard? He isn't a border state, is he? This is nothing more than political spite, using people. Disgusting.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6    3 months ago

There is no place on the Vineyard for them to stay. The locals will have to fly them out.

It is kind of crazy.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
6.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    3 months ago
There is no place on the Vineyard for them to stay.

That can't be, after Labor Day there should be lot's of places available until next summer.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.1.1    3 months ago

Lol, no it don't work that way. By next summer they might as well bulldoze any Hotel that took 'em in.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.1.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    3 months ago
There is no place on the Vineyard for them to stay. The locals will have to fly them out.

It is kind of crazy.

Totally. And yet the kindness there has been outstanding. They are being housed in a local church. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.2    3 months ago
"By next summer they might as well bulldoze any Hotel that took 'em in."

Why?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
6.1.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.2    3 months ago
Hotel?

Massachusetts can do better than that. I just found a large number number of family houses on Airbnb available now.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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6.1.6  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    3 months ago
There is no place on the Vineyard for them to stay. The locals will have to fly them out.

I'm not so sure about this. The uber-wealthy homeowners/renters like Gates, the Obamas, Oprah, Larry David, David Letterman, Diane Sawyer, Spike Lee, among others need their homes dusted/vacuumed, windows washed, snow removed, gardens tended to, and lawns mown. Many of these homes have quarters for their workers. Remember - these are jobs we've been told that Americans won't do.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.7  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jasper2529 @6.1.6    3 months ago

You may have a point.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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6.1.8  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    3 months ago
There is no place on the Vineyard for them to stay. The locals will have to fly them out.It is kind of crazy.

Are we supposed to believe that Martha's Vineyard cannot accommodate 100 immigrants?  Martha's Vineyard is a tourist destination that has capacity to accommodate a substantial transient population.

New York, D.C., Baltimore, Chicago, and Martha's Vineyard are not complaining about the arrival of immigrants.  What they're really complaining about is uncontrolled arrival of immigrants.  Uncontrolled arrivals create problems that are distinctly different than typical problems associated with the arrival of immigrants.

Uncontrolled arrivals is really what the border states are complaining about, too.  Uncontrolled arrivals create a different set of problems than arrivals through a port of entry.  Uncontrolled arrivals (illegal immigration) creates a crisis every day trying to find accommodations, food, and resources.  The border states don't seem to have a problem with controlled arrivals through a port of entry.  Entry through a port of entry may still overwhelm resources but at least everyone has a heads up about what's coming.

Fundamentally the debate isn't about immigration at all.  The debate and root cause of the problem are uncontrolled arrivals versus controlled arrivals.  IMO we won't even address the issue of immigration until we get a handle on uncontrolled arrivals.  We can't cope with uncontrolled arrivals.  That's the whole point of Abbott's exercise.  Abbott isn't shipping immigrants to sanctuary cities to oppose immigration.  Abbott is making the point that there isn't any control over the arrival of immigrants.  Without control over the arrival of immigrants there is a constant crisis of finding accommodations and resources.  That's what these sanctuary cities are really experiencing.

The issue isn't immigration.  The real issue is how people are entering the country.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
6.1.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  Nerm_L @6.1.8    3 months ago

pposed to believe that Martha's Vineyard cannot accommodate 100 immigrants?

I think they get a 100,000 plus  visitors a year, but 50 brown people cause a meltdown.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Participates
6.1.10  Jasper2529  replied to  Nerm_L @6.1.8    2 months ago
The issue isn't immigration.  The real issue is how people are entering the country.

You're correct. Also, Democrats never complained when Biden transported illegal aliens by plane or bus to many states, and they didn't complain when the Democrat mayor of El Paso sent illegal aliens to other locations. Rather curious that they're having a meltdown now!

 
 
 
evilgenius
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6.2  evilgenius  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6    3 months ago
This is nothing more than political spite, using people. Disgusting.

I think the Feds should start arresting and charging people with kidnapping and trafficking.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  evilgenius @6.2    3 months ago

I think you should know they went willingly, no one was forced. 

Might be hard to make a case for fictitious crimes.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.2.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  evilgenius @6.2    3 months ago
I think the Feds should start arresting and charging people with kidnapping and trafficking.

I totally agree.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.2.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.1    3 months ago
I think you should know they went willingly, no one was forced. 

Are you kidding me? They didn't even know where they were going. They were herded onto a plane.

Tell me, how do you think it will play in Florida when they have to foot this bill for DeSantis' so called political gain?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.2.3    3 months ago

Looks like DeSantis is doing okay.

At least according to polls.

So is Abbott.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.2.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.4    3 months ago

This is new news. Abbott I can understand. Florida... not so much.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
6.2.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  evilgenius @6.2    3 months ago
I think the Feds should start arresting and charging people with kidnapping and trafficking.

Wouldn't that be admitting that there is a problem?  That's not in the Administration's agenda.

 
 
 
evilgenius
Professor Guide
6.2.8  evilgenius  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.2.6    3 months ago
Wouldn't that be admitting that there is a problem?

A political partisan problem, yes. We already knew that though.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
6.2.9  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  evilgenius @6.2.8    3 months ago
A political partisan problem,

That hasn't stopped the Dems yet.  

 
 
 
evilgenius
Professor Guide
6.2.10  evilgenius  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.1    3 months ago
I think you should know they went willingly, no one was forced. 

I call bullshit on that one. It's been widely reported they had no idea what was going on or where they were going. Sometimes they were lied to. Once the feds start locking up bus drivers and pilots and start interviewing people in the states where they came from this will go away as quickly as it started. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
6.2.11  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  evilgenius @6.2.10    3 months ago
Once the feds start locking up bus drivers and pilots and

Aren't they contracted?  Is going after bus drivers going to be popular with the base?  Hopefully they are union drivers.  

Why do you want to keep them in shithole Texas anyhow after all these people have been through?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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6.2.12  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  evilgenius @6.2.10    3 months ago

And i call bulllshit on your bullshit. I really don't think that those people say no they want to stay but rather, get in a rather crowded line to board. They aren't herding them like cattle on those busses and planes ala Auschwitz.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
6.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6    3 months ago
exas gov is using these people as political chattel. Ho

Right. Disgusting to put illegals aliens on a plane or bus and drop them off somewhere with no notice. 

Anyone who does that should be impeached. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.3.1  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.3    3 months ago

Transferring immigrants who have temporary asylum protections to family and jobs awaiting them is not "dropping them off without notice"!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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6.3.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @6.3.1    3 months ago

Most have neither.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.4  JBB  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6    3 months ago

We all contribute to the federal infrastructure and resources going to Texas and Florida for immigrats.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
6.4.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @6.4    3 months ago
We all contribute to the federal infrastructure and resources

Not all, just 43% of our households did.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
6.5  afrayedknot  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6    3 months ago

“This is nothing more than political spite, using people. Disgusting.”

In what way is this leadership?

Leadership means acknowledging a problem, addressing it, and building coalitions to bring all parties into the conversation. Wasting tax dollars to score political points is not only ineffective, it is simply petty. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.5.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  afrayedknot @6.5    3 months ago
Leadership means acknowledging a problem, addressing it, and building coalitions to bring all parties into the conversation. Wasting tax dollars to score political points is not only ineffective, it is simply petty. 

I totally agree.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
6.5.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  afrayedknot @6.5    3 months ago

This is Democratic leadership:

Democrat :"Come to our city, we will protect you from US immigration laws."

States inundated by aliens due to open border crises: "Here are some people who want to come to your city"

Democrat: "This is illegal.   You are destroying our cities. Arrest DeSantis."

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
6.5.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  afrayedknot @6.5    3 months ago
Leadership means acknowledging a problem, addressing it, and building coalitions to bring all parties into the conversation.

Exactly, that's just what VP Kamala Harris would do if it was her problem.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
6.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6    3 months ago
political chattel

What should these little border towns do instead?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.6.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.6    3 months ago

Look, you could defend Texas for doing this... even that would be questionable. But I didn't know that Florida was a border town. I mean come on. This is nothing more than political theater. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.6.2  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.6    3 months ago

Oh, we are supposed to be cheerleaders for the failures of Biden and Harris.

Come on, man!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
6.6.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.6.1    3 months ago

Again, what should the border towns do?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
6.6.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.6.1    3 months ago
But I didn't know that Florida was a border town.

Were they in Florida before the flight?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
6.6.5  Greg Jones  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.6.1    3 months ago
"This is nothing more than political theater". 

It's strongly making a point though, isn't it?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.6.6  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.6.3    3 months ago
Again, what should the border towns do?

First of all, they are getting funds from the US gov. 

Second, they should take this up with Biden. This has nada to do with these other states. One state should not make their problems other states. 

Here is an idea. Rikers is full. How about NYC send our criminals to Texas and Florida. They have a good prison system. We can just dump them in Dallas and Miami. 

That makes a point, too.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
6.6.7  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.6.6    3 months ago
First of all, they are getting funds from the US gov.

Who is, how much, for what?

they should take this up with Biden.

D.C. Mayor Muriel E. Bowser (D) declared a public emergency Thursday over the influx of asylum seekers bused in from Texas and Arizona, a formality that allows her to release $10 million in city funds to aid the migrants while also acknowledging that the Biden administration isn’t likely to play a more active role.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.6.8  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.6.7    3 months ago

I am talking about at the border, not in DC.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
6.6.9  afrayedknot  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.6.1    3 months ago

“This is nothing more than political theater.”

Bad actors all about. 

 
 
 
gooseisback
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6.6.10  gooseisback  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.6.1    3 months ago
Look, you could defend Texas for doing this.

Were illegal aliens flown to Florida from Texas by the Biden administration?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
6.7  Greg Jones  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6    3 months ago
"This is nothing more than political spite, using people. Disgusting."

What do you think Biden is doing....and his administration flies them in during the dark of night

The border states didn't ask for this daily invasion, and Biden refuses to offer them any help or relief

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.7.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Greg Jones @6.7    3 months ago

First of all, Biden is flying children at the border to their families. Read here:

And while I agree that the border states didn't ask for this, and this mess needs to be cleaned up, flying them to states who never invited them, despite what the GOP talking points say, is wrong. What is worse is when a non-border state spends its tax payer dollars on this for political gain.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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6.7.2  Ronin2  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.7.1    2 months ago

These really look like children./S

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.7.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.7.1    2 months ago
flying them to states who never invited them,

You mean declaring a city a "sanctuary city" can't be seen as an open invitation to go there?  Seems like Abbot and DeSantis are helping NYC and other sanctuary cities get what they ask for. 

It boils down to control.  Sanctuary cities want to control how many and when illegals arrive.  Abbot and DeSantis, aren't playing that game by sending bus / plane loads of illegals to these cities, they don't have control.  Now they are crying over a self inflicted problem.

And it's nothing like Biden's "Illegal Airlines" that are secretly landing under the cover of darkness.  These planes and buses are arriving in broad day light for the world to see.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Participates
6.7.4  Jasper2529  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.7.3    2 months ago
And it's nothing like Biden's "Illegal Airlines" that are secretly landing under the cover of darkness. 

Do you mean all of the surreptitious charter planes filled with illegal alien adults that Biden sent to TN, CT, NY (Westchester and Long Island), and NJ airports ... among others?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
6.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6    3 months ago
Disgusting.

What would be really disgusting, is keeping these poor people in little towns in racist Texas were the kids wouldn't even get a decent education and the woman couldn't get an abortion if they want one - that's disgusting.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.8.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.8    3 months ago

Excuse me? Did you just call Texans racists?

Drinker, I don't do sarcasm. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.8.2  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.8    3 months ago

Your mischaracterization is disgusting as the overwhelming majority of immigrants disperse voluntarily to family, friends, jobs and housing that are awaiting them. They are not "kept" in small border towns. Surely you know this.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
6.8.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.8.1    3 months ago

I'm trying to assimilate more in this community.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
6.8.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @6.8.2    3 months ago
They are not "kept" in small border towns.

Where are they getting on the buses, in front of Uncle Julio's house?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.8.5  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.8.4    3 months ago

The people voluntarily boarded busses to other parts of the country are plainly not being "kept" in small border towns in Texas...

Why engage with you if you're being dishonest?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
6.8.6  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @6.8.2    3 months ago
"Your mischaracterization is disgusting as the overwhelming majority of immigrants disperse voluntarily to family, friends, jobs and housing that are awaiting them".

This statement is total unsupported bull shit.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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6.8.7  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.8.4    3 months ago

Bingo. El Paso right now cannot handle the numbers they are seeing

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.8.8  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @6.8.6    3 months ago

No Greg, it is an honest account of reality...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.8.9  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.8.1    3 months ago
Excuse me? Did you just call Texans racists?

Others do it regularly.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.8.10  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @6.8.9    3 months ago

Have I? That whole diatribe was meant as a diversion. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.8.11  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.8.7    3 months ago

The North Carolina pork producers want them!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.8.12  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.8.10    3 months ago
Have I?

No, which is why I said specifically 'others'.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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6.8.13  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @6.8.5    3 months ago

T o deal with the unprecedented number of migrants, especially family members, CBP stood up six temporary, steel-framed structures. The f acilities in Donna, El Paso and Tornillo, Texas, and in Yuma, Arizona, are weatherproof, climate-controlled spaces that include a variety of services to accommodate the incoming migrants.

“The additional capacity of these critical structures provides much needed help during the crisis,” Border Patrol Division Chief Lloyd Easterling, who is responsible for the temporary facilities in Donna, Texas, said at the peak of the immigrant flows this summer. But he added those facilities filled up as soon as they were constructed. CBP stood up the first facility in May and doubled the holding space for family units with a second facility in June.

From Day One, President Joe Biden’s immigration policy has been largely incoherent. It’s now verging on a crisis.

In June, authorities recorded 191,898 apprehensions at the border, following more than 222,000 the previous month. Would-be migrants have been processed after crossing the southwestern border more than 1.7 million times so far this year, already exceeding last year’s record-setting tally. Distinctive catastrophes — such as the deaths of   53 migrants   in an abandoned tractor-trailer in San Antonio in June — have only punctuated these grim figures.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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6.9  Jasper2529  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6    3 months ago
Texas gov is using these people as political chattel This is nothing more than political spite, using people.

I haven't heard of any Independent mayors or governors saying this, but radical left sanctuary mayors and governors such as Lightfoot, Hochul, Adams, and Bowser have made the same comments when the brown and black people show up on their sanctuary doorsteps.

chattel

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.9.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Jasper2529 @6.9    3 months ago
I haven't heard of any Independent mayors or governors saying this, but radical left mayors and governors have made the same comments.

Prove that. And btw, nice shot at me being an independent. 

And maybe my verbiage was wrong (I didn't know this was an English class), so I'll make it clearer. They are being treated like pawns.

Definitions
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  • a person used by others for their own purposes.
"they had allowed themselves to be used as pawns within the Cold War"
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Jasper2529
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6.9.2  Jasper2529  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.9.1    3 months ago
Prove that.

Prove what?

(I didn't know this was an English class), so I'll make it clearer.

Although that patronizing, condescending, and sarcastic comment is duly noted, it is incorrect.

They are being treated like pawns.

How are illegal aliens "being treated like pawns"? They have openly said during interviews that they voluntarily board buses and planes from TX or FL to NY, Chicago, DC, Martha's Vineyard. They have also stated that the US border is OPEN, and that Venezuelan media, in particular, reported that Biden welcomes them to illegally enter the USA and he'll take care of them by giving them jobs, housing, phones, healthcare, and education.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.9.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Jasper2529 @6.9.2    3 months ago
Prove what?

I haven't heard of any Independent mayors or governors saying this, but radical left mayors and governors have made the same comments.

Which Mayors have used that term? Prove that.

(I didn't know this was an English class), so I'll make it clearer. Although that patronizing, condescending, and sarcastic comment is duly noted, it isincorrect.

The person that is patronizing is you. You knew what I meant. 

How are illegal aliens "being treated like pawns"? They have openly said during interviews that they voluntarily board buses and planes from TX or FL to NY, Chicago, DC, Martha's Vineyard.

Because those states are flying out people to other states, without those states' permission. 

They have also stated that the US border is OPEN, and that Venezuelan media

Their media can say what they like, but the border is not open.

 
 
 
JBB
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6.9.4  JBB  replied to  Jasper2529 @6.9.2    3 months ago

Immigrants granted temporary refuge status are not illegal aliens. They have human rights.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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6.9.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @6.9.4    3 months ago
Immigrants granted temporary refuge status are not illegal aliens

Then maybe they should follow the process instead of crossing the border at random location's instead of an authorized ports of entry.  Until they do that - they are illegal aliens.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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6.9.6  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @6.9.4    3 months ago
"Immigrants granted temporary refuge status are not illegal aliens".

They're not free to be released in the US to then disappear

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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6.9.7  Jasper2529  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.9.3    3 months ago
Because those states are flying out people to other states, without those states' permission. 

Did Biden get permission from governors and mayors to fly charter planes full of illegal aliens to TN, NJ, and NY? Short, factual answer ... NO.

Their media can say what they like, but the border is not open.

Try this one on for size. Directly from the mouths of Venezuelan illegal aliens, not anyone else:

Perrie, by now you should know that unlike others, I don't make things up! 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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6.9.8  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Jasper2529 @6.9.7    3 months ago
Did Biden get permission from governors and mayors to fly charter planes full of illegal aliens to TN, NJ, and NY? Short, factual answer ... NO.

And the Biden administration says they have only flown out children, which I gave in this link: 

Their media can say what they like, but the border is not open. Try this one on for size. Directly from the mouths of Venezuelan illegal aliens, not anyone else:

Jasper, that is their perception, and it doesn't mean it's true. The official stance can be found here from a disinterested BBC:

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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6.10  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6    3 months ago
What a pile of steaming poop. Texas gov is using these people as political chattel. How do I know? Well, Gov DeSantis has now kicked in, and is spending Florida's tax dollars to send migrants to Martha's Vinyard? He isn't a border state, is he? This is nothing more than political spite, using people. Disgusting.

What's disgusting is that the problem of illegal immigration isn't viewed as a national problem.  The politics is that what's happening at the border is some sort of local problem.  The border region didn't volunteer to deal with illegal immigrants; there wasn't a choice or time to prepare.  And now that the border resources have been overwhelmed and can't cope, New York politicians lecture about humanitarian concerns and demand the border region do more. 

New York politicians use the overwhelmed border facilities and resources as a political prop for photo op politics.  And that's the extent of the concern.  New York politicians can lecture Texas about treating 'migrants' so badly.  Think of the children.  These New York politicians don't care about the 'migrants'; they care about winning elections.

Why is it any easier to house, feed, and care for 'migrants' in Texas than in New York, or Martha's Vineyard for that matter?  Why is the overwhelmed resources in Texas any less of a problem than in New York or Martha's Vineyard?

The 'not our problem' attitude isn't motivated by self-serving political spite?  Especially since so many politicians are winning elections by lecturing Texas without having to cope with the problem.  If the problem of illegal immigration can be handled in a more humanitarian manner then show us how.

Why hasn't New York been proactive in sending buses to Texas to share the burden and ease the strain on overwhelmed resources?  Why hasn't New York stepped up to do its part in dealing with the problem?  Apparently it's been too easy for these sanctuary cities to ride their high horse while ignoring the problem.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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6.10.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Nerm_L @6.10    3 months ago

While I agree that this should be a national issue, the fact that these people are being used as political fodder is disgusting. 

NY doesn't want or need any political props for this. Texas and now Florida is providing that. 

There is a bad precedent being set here. Like I said, when we allow to let one state's problems to become another, it goes both ways.

And if you think for two seconds that Martha's Vineyard is a good destination, then you really don't care about anything but this political theater.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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6.10.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.10.1    3 months ago
And if you think for two seconds that Martha's Vineyard is a good destination,

Exactly, those Martha folks like their 87% white enclave, with only 1.5% Brown folk and 3.7% Black folk.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Principal
6.10.3  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.10.1    3 months ago
While I agree that this should be a national issue, the fact that these people are being used as political fodder is disgusting. 

New York is also using these people as political fodder.  That high horse has very short legs.  Mayor Adams is using these people to make New York appear to be the victim of Texas. 

Notice that Adams has wrapped himself in high minded platitudes about immigration and diversity.  New York just can't cope with the reality.

There is a bad precedent being set here. Like I said, when we allow to let one state's problems to become another, it goes both ways.

The bad precedent was set long ago with talk of amnesty and a path to citizenship.  DACA set a precedent.  Who could have guessed that using illegal immigration as political fodder would encourage more people to jump the border into Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and California?  But that's their problem, after all.

And if you think for two seconds thatMartha's Vineyard is a good destination, then you really don't care about anything but this political theater.

Isn't Martha's Vineyard one of those enclaves that lectures the country from a high horse?  Walk the talk.

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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6.11  MonsterMash  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6    3 months ago

Biden created the problem in Florida. The Biden administration send busloads of illegal immigrants from the border region to Florida. He used illegal immigrants for political spite. Disgusting.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.11.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MonsterMash @6.11    3 months ago

If that was true, then he should be sending his own to other states, instead of fetching them from Texas. But it's not true. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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6.11.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.11.1    3 months ago

Did you forget the late night/early morning flights to Florida by the Biden administration last year and going forward??

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.11.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.11.2    3 months ago

From your article:

Keefe, who was the Trump-appointed U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Florida until early 2021, said the Department of Justice, Department of Homeland Security, and Department of Health and Human Services will not tell the state of Florida who is overseeing the flights, the names of those on the flights, or where the migrants are being taken. None of the agencies or the White House responded to a request for comment. "We're in a sad situation of trying to run an investigation. Who is facilitating this travel? How are they getting here? Who are the support people? Who are the sponsors?" Keefe asked.

For all we know, Texas could have done this. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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6.11.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.11.3    3 months ago

Then why would DOJ, DHS, DHHS not spill the beans and put the blame on them instead of keeping the heat on the administration?

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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6.11.5  MonsterMash  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.11.3    3 months ago
For all we know, Texas could have done this. 

Yeah, sure LOL

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.11.6  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.11.4    3 months ago

Who knows what is going on? Obviously, part of this is on the Biden Admin. but also it's being made into a bigger mess by Texas and now Florida, who should be keeping their nose out of this, but want in on the theater.

That is the honest answer to all of this. There are multiple parties involved in this mess, but NYC is not one of them.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.11.7  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MonsterMash @6.11.5    3 months ago
For all we know, Texas could have done this. 
Yeah, sure LOL

Really? Cause Florida needs to be involved now. Who knows what is going on and until you can prove otherwise, anything is possible.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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6.11.8  Greg Jones  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.11.6    3 months ago

No Perrie, it's a national problem. Liberal politicians need to deal with the problems they create

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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6.11.9  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.11.6    3 months ago
There are multiple parties involved in this mess, but NYC is not one of them

C'mon Perrie. It is a sanctuary city. Many of them would probably end up there eventually anyway. Perhaps they should rethink that policy...........

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.11.10  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.11.9    3 months ago

Jim,

NYC might be a sanctuary city, but it never did that to get Texas's problem and you know it. And no one coming from these S. American countries know this either. They are just trying to come over here get a better life. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.11.11  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Greg Jones @6.11.8    3 months ago

This is about border policies. That has nothing to do with NY and what gov Abbott is doing is just wrong.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
6.11.12  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.11.10    2 months ago
but it never did that to get Texas's problem

Why do you keep insisting that this is "Texas' problem"? It is a US problem. It is the federal government NOT doing its frigging job securing the border. Therefore, a national problem that needs to be shared by all states until such time as the feds get their shit together and do something right for once. If you listen to some of the interviews conducted with the illegals, they DO INDEED think the border is open. Why the hell else would they risk it? 

They are just trying to come over here get a better life. 

And where better to do it than sanctuary cities such as New York City and all the others that have given them safe haven.

I'm sorry but the NIMBY people need to buck up and reap what they have sown. The plain and simple fact that the cities practically shout to the world through a giant bullhorn that they will protect and help and guard from deportation, has caused this as well as the policies of the feds the last year and a half. And for your information and before we head back down the "what about North Carolina" road again, I live in a sanctuary county. Let alone Charlotte being a sanctuary city. The county sheriff will not cooperate with ICE and that fact is what got him elected in 2018. 

**mic drop**

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7  Sean Treacy    3 months ago

Can you believe Desantis did this? What a monster!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    3 months ago

It is pretty damn funny!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    3 months ago
Can you believe Desantis did this? What a monster!

Let's see how this plays out in Florida. He is spending their tax dollars to do this. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2    3 months ago

He is spending their tax dollars to do this

And saving them

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.2.1    3 months ago

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Tessylo
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7.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.2.1    3 months ago

From what?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.2.4  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.2.1    3 months ago

He's not saving them. He is using them as political chattel. 

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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7.2.5  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2    3 months ago
Let's see how this plays out in Florida. He is spending their tax dollars to do this. 

Are you sure it's "Florida's Tax Dollars" that are footing the bill ?

Seems Texas isn't using their own people's tax money. Seems the "Burden" is being funded by the entire countries Tax Dollars.

The Biden Admin Is Paying To Bus Illegal Migrants To New York City | The Daily Caller

The city government of El Paso, Texas, is busing illegal migrants to the Big Apple on the dime of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), Deputy City Manager Mario D’Agostino told the DCNF Monday. The federal agency covers the travel costs of illegal migrants through a grant program. 

“The travel costs for migrants are covered through FEMA’s emergency food and shelter grant. The City/OEM submits for reimbursement on a quarterly basis as the process dictates,” D’Agostino told the DCNF.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.2.6  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @7.2.5    3 months ago
Let's see how this plays out in Florida. He is spending their tax dollars to do this. 
Are you sure it's "Florida's Tax Dollars" that are footing the bill ?

Taryn M. Fenske, the communications director for Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, said the two flights were part of a state program to transport undocumented immigrants to so-called sanctuary destinations. This year the Florida Legislature set aside $12 million for the transportation program.

Do you think that most Florida residents would be happy to know that $12M of their dollars were being spent this way?

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
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7.2.7  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2.6    3 months ago
Do you think that most Florida residents would be happy to know that $12M of their dollars were being spent this way?

Sure....as long as "Illegals" are out of their State. 

What's wrong with "Sharing the Pain" with others ?

It's so much more "Inclusive" to "Share",  than what the Feds are allowing ("Exclusion" from the burden for most), wouldn't you say.

Being "Inclusive" is sooo important these days !

DeSantis and Abbott are getting all the folks involved by "Sharing". That makes them Sensitive and enlightened Governors !

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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7.2.8  Greg Jones  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2.6    3 months ago

Of course.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.2.9  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Greg Jones @7.2.8    3 months ago

We'll see.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.2.10  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @7.2.7    3 months ago

What a rubbish comment.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.2.11  Tessylo  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2.10    3 months ago

Yes, it is

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Sophomore Principal
7.2.12  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2.10    3 months ago
What a rubbish comment.

I don't doubt you think that way, In your mind.

You only like "Sharing" if it's "Good for you" ?

What happened to the Bill Clinton way of Thinking ?

He..... "Felt our Pain" back in the day and supposedly did what it took to "Heal" that pain.

Not part of the "Democrat" way anymore ?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
7.2.13  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2.4    3 months ago
He's not saving them

You don't think taking care of illegal immigrants costs taxpayers money? 

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Sophomore Principal
7.2.14  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2.6    3 months ago
This year the Florida Legislature set aside $12 million for the transportation program.

By the By:

Fact Check: Did Ron DeSantis Fly Migrants to Martha's Vineyard for $12m? (msn.com)

Taryn Fenske, DeSantis' communications director, has confirmed that Florida legislator approved the use of $12 million to "transport illegal immigrants to sanctuary destinations," in line with federal law, as reported by the Associated Press.

The information provided by Fenske is confirmed by the  Freedom First budget for Fiscal Year 2022-2023 approved by DeSantis on June 2 , a $109.9 billion state budget bill that included a program to transport immigrants out of the state.

The governor then approved for the program to be funded using $12 million accrued from Florida's share of the federally funded Coronavirus State Fiscal Recovery Fund, appropriated to the Florida Department of Transportation (FDOT).

"The Fiscal Year 2022-23 Budget creates a $12 million program within the

Florida Department of Transportation to facilitate the transport of

unauthorized aliens out of Florida," reads the document available on DeSantis' official website under the voice "Immigration."

Seems it really didn't come from the "Tax Payers" of Florida. hmmmmmmm

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.2.15  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @7.2.14    3 months ago
Taryn Fenske, DeSantis' communications director, has confirmed that Florida legislator approved the use of $12 million to "transport illegal immigrants to sanctuary destinations," in line with federal law, as reported by the Associated Press. The information provided by Fenske is confirmed by the    Freedom First budget for Fiscal Year 2022-2023 approved by DeSantis on June 2  , a $109.9 billion state budget bill that included a program to transport immigrants out of the state.

State money comes from the tax payers.

The governor then approved for the program to be funded using $12 million accrued from Florida's share of the federally funded Coronavirus State Fiscal Recovery Fund, appropriated to the Florida Department of Transportation (FDOT).

So he is misdirecting federal funding? Who do you think makes up the difference? The tax payer.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.2.16  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @7.2.12    3 months ago

Again another diversion.

And I have no idea what is the Democrat way of thinking since I am not one.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.2.17  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.2.13    3 months ago

My comment had nothing to do with that. I said they were being used, which they are.

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Sophomore Principal
7.2.18  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2.15    3 months ago
State money comes from the tax payers.

Not State Tax payers:

The governor then approved for the program to be funded using $12 million accrued from Florida's share of the federally funded Coronavirus State Fiscal Recovery Fund, appropriated to the Florida Department of Transportation (FDOT).

So he is misdirecting federal funding?

Says whom ?

Who do you think makes up the difference?

Difference for what ? More Better Roads and Bridges ?

Florida's state roads are great.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
7.2.19  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2.17    3 months ago

My comment had nothing to do with that

Then why did you respond to me?  I was clearly addressing the saving of tax dollars. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.2.20  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.2.19    3 months ago

I can't help it Sean if you took my comment to you and made a detour.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.2.21  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @7.2.18    3 months ago
So he is misdirecting federal funding? Says whom ?

You did:

The governor then approved for the program to be funded using $12 million accrued from Florida's share of the federally funded Coronavirus State Fiscal Recovery Fund, appropriated to the Florida Department of Transportation (FDOT)

That is money that was supposed to be spent on recovery and transportation. Now that he and his legislature have decided to use it for political theater, who do you think is going to make up the difference? It is the tax payer.

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Sophomore Principal
7.2.22  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2.21    3 months ago
You did:

I noted no such thing, and neither did the article.

That is money that was supposed to be spent on recovery and transportation. Now that he and his legislature have decided to use it, for political theater (YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS AND WORDS)

State Governors are mangers of their States.

As state managers, governors are responsible for implementing state laws and overseeing the operation of the state executive branch. As state leaders, governors advance and pursue new and revised policies and programs using a variety of tools, among them executive orders, executive budgets, and legislative proposals and vetoes.

Governors carry out their management and leadership responsibilities and objectives with the support and assistance of department and agency heads

Governors play two broad roles in relation to state legislatures. First, they may be empowered to call special legislative sessions, provided in most cases that the purpose and agenda for the sessions are set in advance. Second, and more familiarly, governors coordinate and work with state legislatures in:

  • approval of state budgets and appropriations;
  • enactment of state legislation;
  • confirmation of executive and judicial appointments; and
  • legislative oversight of executive branch functions.
 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.2.23  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @7.2.22    3 months ago

Stop with the deflection. This discussion is not about State Managers. It is about where and what the funds were meant for.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
7.2.24  Kavika   replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2.23    3 months ago

Florida is short 9,500 teachers and other school employees, we are very short of LEO's as well as health care workers. We could use the $12 million to help with recruiting to help fill these openings.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
7.2.25  Ronin2  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2.6    2 months ago

Short term pain for long term gain.

Or do you think they didn't do the math in advance. The illegals stay in Florida they are a drain on Florida's assets long term. 

If NYer's are so damn upset bitch to your damn Democrat politicians; and have them put the heat on Branden to close the border and enforce our immigration laws.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
7.2.26  Ronin2  replied to  Kavika @7.2.24    2 months ago

They will need less of those if they continue to redirect the illegal immigrants being funneled by the US government into their state.

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Sophomore Principal
7.2.27  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2.23    2 months ago
Stop with the deflection. This discussion is not about State Managers. It is about where and what the funds were meant for.

No, That's what YOU made the discussion about.

My point was, Governors are managers of the state and Allocate Moneys to areas as they find fit ! 

FDOT didn't need to be recovered. They do a fine job on Florida Roads. The Pandemic didn't dilapidate the Roads, needing recovery.

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Sophomore Principal
7.2.28  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Kavika @7.2.24    2 months ago
Florida is short 9,500 teachers and other school employees

That's Gov. Desantis Fault ?

It ain't because of what they are paid, that's for sure.

He is using 800 Million for Teachers, and your worried about a pittance 12 Million being used elsewhere ?

Governor Ron DeSantis Announces Pay Raises for Florida Teachers (flgov.com)

WELLINGTON, Fla.  Today, Governor Ron DeSantis announced $800 million in this year’s budget to raise minimum teacher pay and increase veteran teacher salaries in Florida. The $800 million is a $250 million increase over last year’s funding, and brings Florida’s investments in teacher pay to greater than $2 billion since the 2020 Legislative Session. In 2020, the average starting salary for a teacher in Florida was $40,000 (26 th  in the nation), and with today’s funding, it will now be at least $47,000 (9 th  in the nation).

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
7.2.29  Kavika   replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @7.2.28    2 months ago

Reading comprehension is vital when responding to a comment. Nowhere did I say it was DeSantis's fault or even mention his name in my comment. 

I said that we are short of teachers and other school employees, LEOs, and health care workers. The $250 million increase was a good thing and there will have to be more since even with that increase we rank 11th in new teacher pay and near the bottom in average teacher's salary when measured against the rest of the US. 

In our school district, we were short 150 teachers on the first day of school this year and also school bus drivers, custodians, and food preparers. I'm sure that they wouldn't feel that the $12 million was a pittance. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
7.2.30  Kavika   replied to  Ronin2 @7.2.26    2 months ago

Florida has had a long standing problem with illegal immigrants. 

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Sophomore Principal
7.2.31  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Kavika @7.2.29    2 months ago
I said that we are short of teachers and other school employees, LEOs, and health care workers.

WHY....would be nice to know, since the comments have all been about Desantis "Bad" !

Makes one think it's the same if you "Leave Things Out" of your "Florida Lacks" comment.

Get it now ?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
7.2.32  Kavika   replied to  magicschoolbusdropout @7.2.31    2 months ago
WHY....would be nice to know, since the comments have all been about Desantis "Bad" !

Makes one think it's the same if you "Leave Things Out" of your "Florida Lacks" comment.

Get it now ?

 I do see that you're making a lot of assumptions which seems to be you're way of communicating, sad if that's the best you can do. 

It seems that facts are a bit too much for you to deal with, but be that as it may keep on blowing smoke which you are good at.

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Sophomore Principal
7.2.33  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Kavika @7.2.32    2 months ago
I do see that you're making a lot of assumptions which seems to be you're way of communicating, sad if that's the best you can do. 

You ASSUME Much !

Details can be such a bother .... huh.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Quiet
9  charger 383    3 months ago

If they had not been allowed to cross the border this would not be a problem

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
9.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  charger 383 @9    3 months ago

I agree, but they are being stopped at the border and then they find other routes in. I agree that this is a mess, but don't make it other people's mess. Fix it. Wasn't that wall supposed to stop this?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1    3 months ago
Fix it.

When do you suppose the current Administration will be showing that they even know a problem exists?

And when will that acknowledgement translate into Biden and Harris giving a damn about fixing it, or even attempting to do so?

 
 
 
magicschoolbusdropout
Sophomore Principal
9.1.2  magicschoolbusdropout  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1    3 months ago
Wasn't that wall supposed to stop this?

It wasn't allowed to be "Finished". Remember ?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
9.1.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1    3 months ago
I agree that this is a mess, but don't make it other people's mess.

Other people's?? As said elsewhere, this is a national problem. Everyone has a vested interest to take care of it.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.1.3    3 months ago
Other people's?? As said elsewhere, this is a national problem. Everyone has a vested interest to take care of it

NIMBY

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.1.6  Tessylo  replied to    3 months ago

Wow so whitey is the victim here, again?

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Freshman Quiet
9.1.8  afrayedknot  replied to    3 months ago

“…because of immigration…”

No, because they have an addiction. Plenty of naturalized citizens ready to feed the beast. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
9.1.9  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.1.3    3 months ago

If it is a national problem, then tell me, when is North Carolina going to take them, Jim?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
9.1.11  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.9    3 months ago

Already getting them. And this is just Charlotte. From May to late August.

Since May, the coalition said 1,400 immigrants have arrived by bus to Charlotte. A majority are from Venezuela, with others from Columbia, Nicaragua and other countries.

 
 
 
Ringworm
Freshman Silent
9.1.12  Ringworm  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.9    3 months ago

They need to take a few, the Mexican food is awful in NC.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
9.1.13  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ringworm @9.1.12    3 months ago

Not sure where you have been but we have a plethora of authentic Mexican restaurants as well as TexMex and most are quite good. The majority of which are owned, run and staffed completely by Hispanics.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
9.1.14  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.1.11    3 months ago

Who is sending them to you. Not Texas, right?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
9.1.15  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ringworm @9.1.12    3 months ago
They need to take a few, the Mexican food is awful in NC.

LMAO!!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
PhD Principal
9.1.16  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.14    3 months ago

Did you not read the link? Don't think it really matters who. They are coming from the Texas border.

There’s currently an immigrant influx in Charlotte as local activists said hundreds of people are arriving on buses daily from the Texas border.
Organizations said they are maxed out and desperately need help as immigrants continue to arrive. It’s a problem playing out in multiple cities in the United States, and Channel 9 and Telemundo Charlotte are now learning the Queen City is one of them.
 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Participates
9.1.17  Jasper2529  replied to    3 months ago
300 die a day of drug over dose because of immigration

A correction, if I may ...

300 Americans per day die of Fentanyl poisoning, which is caused by China's manufacturing the drug, transporting it to Mexico, and then the complicit Mexican cartels transport it all over the USA. 

These deaths are rarely caused by drug addiction. One pill will kill. Many people do not know this.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
9.1.18  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.1.16    3 months ago

First of all, I read everything that I am presented with, otherwise what is the point?

Yes, I read that there is an influx from Texas, and supposedly the Texas gov says he is not doing it, but sending them to us. Why should we believe him?

Also, it says that you got 1,400 people since May. Do you know how many people NY has gotten since May? We have gotten over 7,600 since May from Texas. What gives him the right to do that? How would he feel if we sent 7,600 of our homeless to him? This shouldn't be allowed and it is political theater.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.19  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @9.1.6    3 months ago

It may be Kamala Harris.

A bus stopped f front of her place this morning. You'd be amazed at what the migrants are saying about the border


 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.2  Tessylo  replied to  charger 383 @9    3 months ago

Ah, feral cats, right charger?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Principal
9.3  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  charger 383 @9    3 months ago
If they had not been allowed to cross the border this would not be a problem

Kudos!  I think you have gotten the point of the whole exercise.

While there have been some complaints about immigration in general, the majority of complaints seem be about uncontrolled immigration.  Abbott (and now DeSantis) haven't been demanding a stop to immigration.  The problem is illegal immigration; not immigration.  It's the 'illegal' part that sanctuaries want to ignore.  

As Mayor Adams is finding out illegal immigration causes problems that are distinctly different than problems associated with immigration.  They're not the same thing and can't be handled the same way.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
10  Sean Treacy    3 months ago

I think the democrats have found a winning message with their comparison between sending  immigrants  who volunteer to Martha's Vineyard and the Holocaust. 

Perfectly rational message. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11  Texan1211    3 months ago

Simple facts are:

Kamala Harris is still insisting the border is secure.

She clearly has no clue as to what secure means.

She also wants amnesty and a path to citizenship for millions, which is what many of us recognized as the goal of Democrats long ago.

 
 
 
Ringworm
Freshman Silent
12  Ringworm    3 months ago

Just learn Spanish, it's going to be the dominant language in a few years. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
13  Tacos!    3 months ago
New York City Mayor Eric Adams said Wednesday that the city is at a "breaking point" due to thousands of migrants who have been sent by bus from Texas in recent weeks.

"In the last few months, we have experienced an unprecedented surge of asylum seekers arriving from the southern border," Adams said Wednesday.

"In this new and unforeseen reality, where we expect thousands more to arrive every week going forward, the city's system is nearing its breaking point. As a result, the city's prior practices, which never contemplated the bussing of thousands of people into New York City, must be reassessed."

Holy Shit, what a baby. And how insensitive!

Whether you agree with what the Texas governor is doing or not, where does the NYC mayor get off complaining? The busing has been going on for . . . what? A few months? States like Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California have been enduring a never-ending influx of illegal aliens for literally decades

All the while, people unaffected by our porous southern border (like NY government types) have, for all those years, self-righteously chastised the southwestern states for bitching about the problem, or trying to solve it when the federal government refused.

”Ohhhhhh! We’re at a breaking point!”

STFU!

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Quiet
14  squiggy    2 months ago

“Give me your tired, your p… -  Hey WTF?”

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Sophomore Guide
15  Right Down the Center    2 months ago

I hate to break it to Adam's but NYC was broken by Dablowhole way before a couple thousand illegals started showing up.

 
 

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