Non-citizen Chinese immigrant is sworn in on SF's Election Commission
By: nypost (New York Post)
Just what in the hell is going on?
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
A Chinese immigrant has been sworn in to serve on San Francisco's Election Commission despite her lack of US citizenship, raising national security concerns as one US senator warns that Chinese President Xi Jinping is playing the "long game."
Kelly Wong, an immigration rights activist who came to the US in 2019 from Hong Kong for graduate studies, was unanimously appointed by San Francisco's Board of Supervisors to the city's Elections Commission on Feb. 14.
She is believed to be the first non-citizen ever to sit on the commission, after California voters approved a measure in 2020 to eliminate the citizenship requirement to sit on San Francisco boards.
3Kelly Wong, an immigration rights activist who came to the US in 2019 from Hong Kong for graduate studies, was unanimously appointed by San Francisco's Board of Supervisors to the city's Elections Commission on Feb. 14. LinkedIn / Mission Graduates
"There are always voices inside my head, like 'You can't do it. You're not competent. You're an immigrant. This is not your country,'" Wong told KQED following her historic appointment last week.
"If I can do it, you can do it," she said.
In her new position, Wong — who cannot legally vote — is one of seven people who will oversee and implement policy for the Department of Election.
She will oversee voter registrations, vote-by-mail ballots, voting locations and election observations.
"This appointment is a milestone for all immigrant and marginalized communities throughout San Francisco," Wong wrote on her now-deleted LinkedIn profile last Thursday, according to the Epoch Times.
"Representation matters: thousands of immigrants living in the city hold stakes in politics, and there is no better way to have us be represented than to serve in leadership positions.
"I am deeply committed to ensuring that everyone, regardless of immigration status, has a seat at the table in shaping the future of our city," she added.
Wong said she hopes to increase voting engagement among immigrants and those who do not speak English.
3Wong said she hopes to increase voting engagement among immigrants and those who do not speak English. KTSF26
"Even though I'm fluent in English, I still encounter challenges in navigating a new system, let alone participating in political conversation and activities," she told KQED.
But because the position is unpaid, Wong is also planning to continue her work with the advocacy group Chinese for Affirmative Action — a non-governmental organization founded in 1969.
Its mission is to protect the "civil and political rights of Chinese Americans and to advance multiracial democracy in the United States," according to its website.
The group was previously responsible for lobbying the government to change the law to allow non-citizens to vote in San Francisco school board elections if their children attend a school in the district.
3Sen. Eric Schmitt (R-Mo.) warned that Chinese President Xi Jinping is playing the "long game" in an interview with Fox Business' Maria Bartiromo. Fox News
But Wong's appointment to the elections board has some around the country concerned about China's increasing influence, with Sen. Eric Schmitt (R-Mo.) warning that President Xi Jinping is playing the "long game" after 452 Chinese migrants were caught at the southern border in just the past three days, per Customs and Border Protection data.
"Look, they're flooding our borders with fentanyl, killing Americans," he told Fox Business' Maria Bartiromo on Tuesday.
"China is playing the long game here," the Republican said, arguing that the Chinese have "completely populated the spaces that people make decisions, including the White House.
"This is how civilizations, you know, ultimately lose their way — and the idea of having an open border where anybody can come from anywhere without asking any questions is nuts," Schmitt continued.
"We need to do everything we can right now to sort of hold Mayorkas responsible and [President] Joe Biden responsible," he said, referring to Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, whom the House of Representatives impeached last week.
The Post has reached out to the Elections Commission and the San Francisco Mayor's Office for comment.
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Must be all that rain has soaked some brains.............IF they exist
Virtue signaling.
Something seriously wrong with that, but hey this is San Francisco we're talking about. Go figure ...
I consider it a trial run for allowing aliens to vote in national elections.
Isn't that the goal?
More than likely
Let's not forget that >20,000 Chinese illegal alien military age men have entered the US through Jacumba, CA in YTD2024. The CCP doesn't allow their citizens to freely travel without its authorization. There have been thousands of acres of farmland near military bases bought by the Chinese. Then, there are the Confucius Institutes, Chinese police departments, the mysterious Chinese "balloon" that was allowed to fly all over the USA. One more thing ... illegal alien Chinese men have been documented doing firearm practice in the USA.
Of course this is a trial run and goal.
What evidence do you have that she cannot do the job?
Or is this just a racist thing?
Exactly, what’s citizenship, just a piece of paper.
What evidence do you have that she isn't a Chinese spy?
What better way to interfere with elections that plant someone on the election committee.
Democrats really seem to love Chinese spies for whatever reason.
Maybe Democrats should be more trusting of US citizens and lest trusting of Xi and the Chinese government.
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What evidence do you have that YOU aren't a Chinese spy?
It is a citizenship thing.
So it is not an ability to do a job thing?
So you support discrimination based on your country of birth, or that only American citizens should be able to get jobs in America? If she can do the job well, why would you be opposed?
Given a choice for job like that, I would take a citizen over a non citizen any day. It’s not like that that job is rocket engineering after all.
Very doubtful only a non citizen would be qualified for it. Very doubtful.
Maybe it's a Harris thing, in California it's not who you pay, but who you lay.
Or a Swalwell thing.
Those Dems are real push overs for those Chinese spies. Especially the good looking ones.
Okay, discrimination it is. Finally a straight answer.
Just to clarify. Are you saying that you would condone discrimination based on their place of birth? That seems to be what you are spelling out.
Sure, glad to help straighten you out on the topic.
I’m like most people, in most countries. Citizenship in a country offers one certain rights, privileges and considerations over non citizens. A job is one of them. C’mon man. I’d really hate to discriminate on a real citizen over a non citizen.
Hope that clears up your confusion.
Duh... You want Russian nationals supervising american elections?
how broken brained do you have to be to understand that having your elections supervised by citizens of your own country rather than citizens of a hostile foreign power is a good idea?
Nope. Try a simple yes or no answer. Would you condone discrimination based on their place of birth?
If they had stayed where they were born then this would not be a problem
Isn't that what Trump proposed?
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Congrats, you and Trump are peas in a pod.
Well, I guess some folks are just chronically confused. Discrimination doesn’t even come into play in this situation. It’s simple obtuse to think that it does.
Simple obtuse.
They go together like peas and carrots …
Employing a person based on their location of birth is not discrimination in your mind?
Location of birth or current citizenship status?
Or have applied for a green card or citizenship before the job of hers, which would have been the right thing to do.
You need to read the comment string before butting in. Sparty clearly stated non-American .
One wonders what you would think if this gal was a Russian non citizen. Okay? Not okay?
Be honest now …..
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Yeah, no answer. I thought so.
Nothing strange here …
How does the Babylon bee stay in business when California exists? No matter how asinine an idea you try to come up with as satire, California will actually top it.
In her new position, Wong — who cannot legally vote — is one of seven people who will oversee and implement policy for the Department of Election. She will oversee voter registrations, vote-by-mail ballots, voting locations and election observations.
This is not satire???
Yep, Xi is playing a very long game here. How many potential spies are the libs going to let into our country?
It's just another in a long line of fundamentally stupid things that everyone with a brain has intuitively understood for thousands of years. Imagine going back to Athens and asking them to elect a Spartan to supervise their elections during their struggle for supremacy? It's such a ridiculously stupid idea that only in 21st Century California could it possibly happen.
One more reason I am soooo glad I left Crazy Cali years ago!
Non citizens should not be allowed to hold any government offices at all.
She's an immigrant. I don't see illegal anywhere in the description.
Why not?
I said non citizen.
Why should anybody but a Citizen be allowed to hold a US government position?
Did he say anything about illegal?
Is this a deflection from what he ACTUALLY wrote?
Because it is totally irrelevant, THAT'S why.
She isn’t a damned citizen SMMFH
Exactly!
Wonder what country she is a citizen of?
Hong Kong. See my comment # 8.
Crazy Cali is the testing ground for many weird, unhealthy Democratic strategies.
Is there anything too far-fetched for those idiots to try?
I'm really amused by the excessive paranoia overflowing from the article and comments here. All kinds of effort is being made to tie Xi Jinping into this, and, wait for it, the scary word is coming...COMMUNISM. She immigrated from Hong Kong, not China's mainland, two years ago. People who leave Hong Kong are usually those who DON'T WANT to be controlled by the government of the mainland, and it's unlikely that they would be spies for the mainland government. The article and most of the comments are just plain outright RACIST, and I truly believe caused by FEAR!!! Why don't you fucking scaredy-cats start a movement to reinstate the China Exclusion Act?
It amuses me when an issue that should be understood as simple common sense, somehow gets twisted into accusations of racism and fear.
Hilarious!
I understand perfectly. I believe that people who live in a city, support the city's businesses, send their kids to the city's schools and if they own a home pay the city's real estate taxes have every reason to be able to vote on school issues and municipal issues, whether or not they are American citizens. And pointing out that they happen to be Chinese IS RACIST.
And it amuses ME that the article and comments are NOT deemed racist and fearful.
i disagree. In virtually every developed country in the world “citizenship” bestows upon a person certain rights and privileges more than non citizens. That IS the norm. Not the other way around.
Nothing racist about that. Nothing at all and stop with the thinly veiled insults. They are completely wasted energy.
This issue came up on this site years ago, and I believe and argued this point then and feel no differently now:
Unfortunately I see that notwithstanding that particular issue has been litigated, at this point it has lost so far, as in this POLITICO article.
LINK ->
The Republicans won (explaining to me the tone of their comments on the current article) but who knows, the matter could be appealed further.
As for bias, the fact that Xi Jinping was brought into the issue by the article author when the individual, as I explained, probably wanted nothing to do with Xi Jinping and the mainland government, AS I EXPLAINED ABOVE was DIRTY ROTTEN JOURNALISM and the fact that he made a big thing about her being Chinese IS RACIST. I would not have bothered so much with this article if the person who posted the article had properly declared the personal shots at me because I'm in China to be off topic, then maybe all of this could have been a little more BALANCED.
Yes, who knows. Your minority viewpoint may become more popular in the future. I doubt that is going to happen any day soon, if ever, but you never know.
Thank you for your civil reply.
Are you allowed to vote in China, Buzz?
The irony here is top notch.
YES. I go to the Canadian consulate in Chongqing, show my passport, am handed a ballot that I fill out and give back to them to send to Canada.
Ok.
LOL!
Are you allowed to vote in any Chinese elections?
So no, you aren’t voting in Chinese elections.
Different strokes for different folks, Tex. I really have neither the need nor desire to vote in Chinese elections.
Although I have spent time during my life in about 17 different nations, I always obey the laws of those nations and never got into any trouble. Different nations have different laws, do they not? The whole world is not "The home of the brave and land of the free" America and as much as America boasts of its "personal rights and freedoms" this article and its supporters are negating it because there are many people in America who do not have the privileges that America boasts of.
Do foreigners hold governmental positions at any level in China?
I don't know, and in any event I thought the topic was about foreigners in America - foreigners that are IN FACT RESIDENTS in America.
There is a big difference between being a resident and a citizen. You should know that by now.
I should know that by now? That comment suggests that I DON'T know that by now. Is that intended to indicate that I'm ignorant, have little education, little knowledge of the English language? I consider that an insult.
Are you a citizen of China or just a resident? THAT is what I think he meant.
I am not the topic nor is China. You are the only one who can declare comments off topic. Did you do that when some of your colleagues made their off topic comments forcing me to put them straight?
Um, yeah. How many American citizens hold government positions in China? Is it zero? I bet it’s zero. What do you think they’re so scared of?
I've pretty well answered that in my comments above, and am getting bored with all the "whataboutisms" when the topic is America, not China.
Whataboutism is actually appropriate here. You are advocating for a standard that exists nowhere else in the world.
What I advocate is my personal feelings, and have absolutely nothing to do with China, so I resent being dragged through this issue as if I WERE advocating for China. I had stated my feelings about the matter YEARS ago when the issue was raised in NYC.
It’s got nothing to do with your connection to China. The subject of the seed is Chinese. The Chinese government is mentioned in the seed. And then you brought up the Chinese Exclusion Act. It would pretty much be impossible to give you a relevant response to your comment and not mention China.
Additionally, you accused commenters here of posting racist comments and of being “fucking scaredy-cats,” and then you get mad because it’s getting too personal? Look in a mirror, ya know?
I didn't get personal with ANYONE, but I sure got PERSONAL backlashes.
Sorry Buzz but you aren’t being honest with yourself.
As I just said.....
I repeat and direct your attention to your own comments at 8 and 8.1.1. You have accused the commenters here of racism and being fucking scaredy cats. If that’s not personal, what is it?
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Advocate for immigrants. Nothing wrong with that. But when you do something like this, it makes me wonder what the point of citizenship is.
Also have to wonder if she's completed her graduate studies. ie, has she overstayed her visa? If so, does this public office put her at risk for deportation? Is she working towards a green card? Does she even have a green card? I cannot find any news to provide any information on this.
I have no issues with an advocate for immigrants, but I agree that one has to question, in light of this appointment, what is the point of citizenship.
Well, Biden is in charge, and this is happening in California, so, no, I don't think she is at risk for deportation.
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Ah, I didn't realize you had posted this when I posted that decision above. I have previously and still agree with the previous claim that was made, as I explained above.
Per ICE data, only 288 Chinese nationals were deported from the U.S. in fiscal year 2023, despite more than 24,000 Chinese nationals being encountered at the border during the same year.
ICE's FY 2023 Annual Report
The epicenter of illegal aliens' entry is now Jacumba and San Diego, CA due to Abbott's and other governors' strong actions in Texas.
As of 23Feb2023, 9:30AM (PT) today, 6 large buses picked up over 200 illegal aliens and transported them to depots or airports, so they could then freely travel to wherever they wanted to go in the US, thanks to NGO and cartel "help". Chicago, NYC, NJ, FL, and VA were the most prefered destinations. These unvetted illegal aliens, all military-age men, came from China, Syria, India, Afghanistan, Brazil, Venezuela, Mauritania, Turkey, Senegal, Ecuador, Costa Rica, Columbia, and Peru.
There has never been any border crisis under Joe and Kamala's watchful eyes, don't ya know!
Yeppers! /S
Tossup between Jacumba, CA and Lukeville, AZ. I'll go with Lukeville myself.
Is that anywhere near Kumbaya USA?
It's in California so there is a good possibility.😁
That is absolutely correct. Places that have a welcoming committee for the migrants, plus aid and a drivers license that involves voting.
As of 23Feb2023, 9:30AM (PT) today, 6 large buses picked up over 200 illegal aliens and transported them to depots or airports, so they could then freely travel to wherever they wanted to go in the US, thanks to NGO and cartel "help". Chicago, NYC, NJ, FL, and VA were the most prefered destinations. These unvetted illegal aliens, all military-age men, came from China, Syria, India, Afghanistan, Brazil, Venezuela, Mauritania, Turkey, Senegal, Ecuador, Costa Rica, Columbia, and Peru.
Seldom do we see the Mexican migration anymore. When so come from so far away as China, the question is how could so many afford it.
Yep. I've seen live videos and interviews in both this week on TV.
Does that mean that Kamala solved the Central American "root causes"?
Ironically, Mexico wasn't on her list.
The only color that attracts politicians' interest is green. This does affect Nancy Pelosi's Congressional district, after all. And just look at all the money to be made.
Maybe Kelly Wong is only a pathfinder preparing the way for her compatriots. China does seem to play a long game. And Democrats don't miss a trick. Another Democrat created controversy, another dollar. Vote early, vote often, vote Democrat. Starving liberal politicians need your support.
A lot of outside moderation on a group article. It must be a Conservative group.
BTW this is not about race or residency, THIS IS ABOUT A NON-CITIZEN PRESIDING OVER LOCAL ELECTIONS.
You're surprised?
Wasn't this Diane Feinstein's district? The same Feinstein who had Chinese spies working in her offices?