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Biden Justice Department, in Filing in Federal Court, Sides With the UN Against Victims of October 7 | The New York Sun

  
Via:  Freewill  •  3 months ago  •  8 comments

By:   NewYorkSun (The New York Sun)

Biden Justice Department, in Filing in Federal Court, Sides With the UN Against Victims of October 7 | The New York Sun
Immunities of the United Nations from lawsuits in America are likely to be tested by 101 victims of terror seeking damages from the UN agency dealing with…

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Why would the U.S. Justice Department file to defend the U.N. (or more aptly one of its affiliates the UNRWA) against a lawsuit brought by 101 victims of the Oct 7 Hamas terrorist attack in Israel especially when ”UNRWA’s own investigation found nine of its employees “may have been involved” in the October 7 attacks, and Israel contends there was a greater degree of complicity in the murders and kidnappings."?

Seems to me that the "Justice Department" has just become a gross misnomer.


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Immunities of the United Nations from lawsuits in America are likely to be tested by 101 victims of terror seeking damages from the UN agency dealing with Palestinian Arab refugees.

While the Department of Justice has been working overtime to pierce President Trump's immunity, Attorney General Garland's lawyers are busy seeking to establish immunity for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency from a lawsuit by the victims of the massacre of Jews on October 7.

That stunning stand is emerging in filings in federal court in the Southern District of New York, where Hamas's victims are seeking some quantum of justice. The suit, brought this summer by 101 victims of Palestinian Arab terror, seeks a billion dollars from UNRWA and its leaders, including the current commissioner-general, Philippe Lazarrini.

The plaintiffs argue that the defendants "are liable for aiding and abetting Hamas' genocide, crimes against humanity, and torture." UNRWA's own investigation found nine of its employees "may have been involved" in the October 7 attacks. Israel contends there was a greater degree of complicity in the murders and kidnappings.

One plaintiff, Gadi Kedem, lost his daughter, son-in-law, and three grandchildren on October 7. He tells an Israeli publication, Ynet: "There is no pain in the world that compares to burying your children and grandchildren who were murdered and strangled in their own home."

The United Nations, though, maintains that it is untouchable under a treaty called the "Convention on the Privileges and Immunities of the United Nations" that dates from 1946. The DOJ has taken the same position in a letter filed to the presiding judge , Analisa Torres. The letter comes "at the request of the United Nations and in accordance with the United States' treaty obligations to respect the immunities of the United Nations."

The DOJ and the UN argue that the Geneva Conventions mandate that the "United Nations, its property and assets wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall enjoy immunity from every form of legal process except insofar as in any particular case it has expressly waived its immunity."

The problem comes, though, from language in the 1946 treaty adding that the "Secretary-General shall have the right and the duty to waive the immunity of any official in any case." Secretary-General Guterres, who has come under criticism for waffling over October 7, refuses to do the duty of waiver that is marked in the treaty.

The Second United States Appeals Circuit has held that "the United Nations enjoys absolute immunity from suit unless it has expressly waived its immunity," and the Department of Justice argues here that as "an integral part of the United Nations, UNRWA enjoys the privileges and immunities of the United Nations."

The DOJ further contends that Mr. Lazarrini and the United Nations high commissioner for refugees, Filippo Grandi, enjoy a related species of diplomatic immunity. It's a freighted question, as treaties are, under the Constitution, part of the "supreme law of the land," as authoritative as federal law and the constitutional parchment itself.

The DOJ argues that the reason it has come in on UNRWA's side, is that "the U.N. has not waived immunity in this case, its subsidiary, UNRWA, retains full immunity, and the lawsuit against UNRWA should be dismissed." The UN has waived immunity in the past, notably for crimes related to the "Oil for Food" scandal in Iraq in 2005.

The lawyers for the victims, though, contend that "the Government is wrong" and that UNRWA is not free "to aid and abet genocide, mass murder, mass rape, and commit other violations of fundamental human rights with impunity." The victims argue that immunity covers only the United Nations itself, not an affiliate like UNWRA, whose employees "cloaked their heinous acts in the drapery of the United Nations."

Then there is the notion of jus cogens — a "peremptory norm" — or rules so basic that to facilitate their violation would strike at morality's quick. The Second United States Appeals Circuit also reckons that norms like these "may not be violated, irrespective of the consent or practice of a given State." Hamas' crimes, the plaintiffs allege, are a paradigmatic example of acts for which immunity ought to be unavailing.

Neither the attorneys for the plaintiffs nor the United Nations responded to the Sun's request for comment by the time this article went to press.


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Freewill
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1  seeder  Freewill    3 months ago
The problem comes, though, from language in the 1946 treaty adding that the “Secretary-General shall have the right and the duty to waive the immunity of any official in any case.” Secretary-General Guterres, who has come under criticism for waffling over October 7, refuses to do the duty of waiver that is marked in the treaty. 
The DOJ argues that the reason it has come in on UNRWA’s side, is that “the U.N. has not waived immunity in this case, its subsidiary, UNRWA, retains full immunity, and the lawsuit against UNRWA should be dismissed.” The UN has waived immunity in the past, notably for crimes related to the “Oil for Food” scandal in Iraq in 2005. 

Underlined emphasis, mine.  Seems to me that the Secretary-General has some explaining to do in terms of not waiving the so-called immunity, especially in a case where the gravity arguably outweighs that of the Oil for Food scandal in 2005.  And the DOJ sides with the UN because they have not waived their own immunity which should not even apply in this case?  Is that how justice works?

The lawyers for the victims, though, contend that “the Government is wrong” and that UNRWA is not free “to aid and abet genocide, mass murder, mass rape, and commit other violations of fundamental human rights with impunity.” The victims argue that immunity covers only the United Nations itself, not an affiliate like UNWRA, whose employees “cloaked their heinous acts in the drapery of the United Nations.”
Then there is the notion of jus cogens — a “peremptory norm” — or rules so basic that to facilitate their violation would strike at morality’s quick. The Second United States Appeals Circuit also reckons that norms like these “may not be violated, irrespective of the consent or practice of a given State.” Hamas’ crimes, the plaintiffs allege, are a paradigmatic example of acts for which immunity ought to be unavailing.

EXACTLY!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Freewill @1    3 months ago

IMO if the SCotUS had the balls to reverse Roe v Wade, it should have the balls to support the claimants in this case.  JUSTICE, JUSTICE SHALL YOU PURSUE

 
 
 
Freewill
Junior Quiet
1.1.1  seeder  Freewill  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1    3 months ago

Indeed but this is a DOJ issue at the moment, the SCOTUS has nothing to do with it at this point.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
1.1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Freewill @1.1.1    3 months ago

I know, but I predict that the case will end up there.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
2  Greg Jones    3 months ago

The US needs to quit funding the UN and kick them out and off of our soil.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3  Sean Treacy    3 months ago

UNRWA’s own investigation found nine of its employees “may have been involved” in the October 7 attacks,

trump, smartly, cut off taxpayer funding for these terrorists. Biden brought it back.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
4  Buzz of the Orient    3 months ago

Besides the nine UNRWA employees involved in the Oct 7 massacre, the actual video of the Hamas terrorists using UNRWA vehicles for transport (which I saw on TV myself), the storing of Hamas terrorist weapons in UNRWA schools and facilities, the hiding of Hamas terrorist commanders in UNRWA schools and facilities are sufficient evidence, and the fact of Guterras' ignoring the reality of UNRWA's complicity is reason enough for me to be irrational and unreasonable and demand that the UN building while occupied by Guterras and the UNRWA officials and the representatives of all the antisemitic States that have condemned Israel for defending its nation to be bulldozed into the East River.  Is that contrary to the "Convention on the Privileges and Immunities of the United Nations"? 

 
 
 
Freewill
Junior Quiet
4.1  seeder  Freewill  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4    3 months ago
Is that contrary to the "Convention on the Privileges and Immunities of the United Nations"? 

Since you are not part of, or affiliated with, the U.N. I think not. It is perfectly reasonable to assume the Secretary-General of the UN would do the right thing, even under the Convention, and waive the immunity of the UNRWA in this matter given their organization’s known participation in a terrorist attack.  It is unreasonable that the Sec-Gen of the UN did not waive that immunity and further that the DOJ went out of their way to support such an unjust position.  It is as unfathomable to me as clearly it is to you my friend.  Irrational and unreasonable actions like those of the DOJ often draw like responses, understandable but probably not the best solution in the long run.

 
 

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