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McConnell says ‘MAGA movement is completely wrong’

  
Via:  TᵢG  •  one month ago  •  144 comments

By:   CNN

McConnell says ‘MAGA movement is completely wrong’
Here in this biography, he calls Trump at one point a sleazeball narcissist. He called him, said not very smart, call him nasty. And just about every quality you would not want somebody to have. But he has endorsed Donald Trump, of course.

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This illustrates the absurdity of the modern GOP (the GOP infected by Trump).   McConnell (one of many) is ripping Trump in his new book, indicates that he logically should have been convicted for impeachment (but he voted against it) and with all this ultimately endorses Trump for the 2024 presidency.

It is madness.


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GOP Senate Minority  Leader Mitch McConnell  has some harsh words  for his party under Donald Trump.  

In an upcoming biography  by the associate Press's Michael Tackett.  McConnell  says the quote,  MAGA movement is completely wrong.  I want to bring in CNN's chief  congressional correspondent  and host of Inside  Politics Sunday, Manu Raju.  These are really strong comments  from McConnell.  Yeah, and a lot of  this was resolved in the aftermath  of January 6th, 2021.  Remember how Trump and McConnell,  they really worked closely together  through the duration  of Donald Trump's time in office?  If it weren't for McConnell,  Donald Trump would not have been able  to dramatically reshape  the Supreme Court.  Of course, McConnell kept  that Supreme Court seat vacant  under Barack Obama for more than a year.  Donald Trump got three  Supreme Court seats.  McConnell also helped  usher through a major tax cut law.  But in the aftermath of January  6th, McConnell,  his views completely changed.  And he talked about the impeachment  trial, the second impeachment trial.  Donald Trump, of course, was acquitted.  Mitch McConnell  voted to acquit Donald Trump,  but he led level  some scathing criticism,  not just on the Senate floor,  but also to Michael Tackett  of the Associated Press.  He said, I'm not at all conflict  about whether  what the president did  is an impeachable offense.  He said.  I think it is urging an insurrection.  And people attacking the Capitol  as a direct result  is about as close  to an impeachable offense  as you can imagine,  with the possible  exception of maybe being an agent  for another country.  Remember, he justified his decision  to acquit at the time  because he said as a procedural argument,  it was Donald Trump was out of office.  Impeachment trial in the Senate  had been after  Donald Trump had left office.  They said  Republicans, like McConnell said,  you can't do this to a former president  they thought would be done  with the Republican Party at that point.  Of course, that has not happened.  But he did  blame Trump essentially  for what happened on January 6th.  McConnell also says,  I don't know  whether you can make  a conclusive argument  that he's directly responsible  for them storming the Capitol,  but I think it's not in dispute  that those folks would not have been here  in the first place  if he had not asked them to come,  and to disrupt the actual acceptance  of the outcome of the election.  And, Dana,  Mitch McConnell was so blunt  throughout this biography.  I've asked him many times  over the last several years  about Donald Trump, the aftermath  of their falling out in the like.  He rarely wants to engage in this topic,  but he did.  Here in this biography,  he calls Trump at one point  a sleazeball narcissist.  He called him, said not very smart,  call him nasty.  And just about every quality  you would not want somebody to have.  But he has endorsed Donald Trump,  of course.  And he was asked about  his office, was asked  about why he said this  or any comment about his comments.  He said, whatever  I may have said  about President  Trump pales  in comparison to what JD Vance,  Lindsey Graham  and others have said about him.  But we are all on the same team now.  I mean, wow,  it's certainly a  lot, and I totally hear you  on the argument that he voted no to,  to he voted to acquit Donald Trump  in the impeachment trial.  But imagine if he didn't  if he were impeached and convicted,  he wouldn't have been able  to run for president.  So he, Mitch McConnell,  would have been able to change  all of the things  that he describes himself in that book.  Yeah, of course  it would have been different history.  Manu, thank you so much.  you, Senate Majority  Minority Leader Mitch McConnell  was also, making some headlines  this week for his comments.  He says that the MAGA movement is, quote,  completely wrong  and that former president  Ronald Reagan would not recognize,  the Trump Republican Party.  this is according to a new book  that is coming out.  Is that a fair characterization,  in your view?  not really.  I mean, obviously  I've said that Donald Trump is a problem,  but the MAGA movement  is expressing frustration  with the federal government,  frustration  with, an economy  that's not working for them.  You got to take those things seriously.  Historically, in the Republican Party,  we've always had an extreme element  that has been, constrained by leaders  that have a broader  vision and solutions for our country.  The challenge with the MAGA movement is,  you take the frustrating element,  the angry element that's out there,  and you don't put a constraint on it.  Donald Trump embraces  it and magnifies it.  And to me, that's the problem.  But, Mitch  McConnell is speaking from his heart.  and,  I'd hate to think  it'd be interesting to watch  what it'd be like with the Trump  presidency and Mitch  McConnell of the United States Senate. 


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TᵢG
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1  seeder  TᵢG    one month ago
He says that the MAGA movement is, quote,  completely wrong  and that former president  Ronald Reagan would not recognize,  the Trump Republican Party. 

No shit.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  TᵢG @1    one month ago
He says that the MAGA movement is, quote,  completely wrong  and that former president  Ronald Reagan would not recognize,  the Trump Republican Party. 
No shit.

I think we all need to acknowledge that MAGA is not a movement, it is simply a cult.  No more, no less.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    one month ago

The only type of movement it should be compared to, what it really is, is a BM.

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.1.2  Thomas  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    one month ago

MAGA exists as a movement no matter how hard we would like it not to be.

Concentrating all of our energies on defeating Trump and acting like the MAGA movement will cease to exist after such a time as he is, lends no credence to the millions of people out there who wish for him to succeed.

Fascism is not one person, it is a governing system put in place to ensure a certain situation.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Thomas @1.1.2    one month ago
MAGA exists as a movement no matter how hard we would like it not to be.

It started as a movement, it has since devolved into a cult.  Movements have goals, other than getting Trump elected MAGA has no goals independent of Trump.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.1.4  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.3    one month ago
MAGA has no goals independent of Trump.

Dependent on Trump, Independent on and of, thought and reason, disrespectfully stated asz both applicable to the wanna be Dicktatertot distributor of treason, and the entire Regressive Ruining Party of Rrrr's not a pleasin, have come late, thus Tardy, over & over, has become the Re Tardy Re Publican Party, 

who shall ever be Remembered for the DISGRACE in all of our Face, 

bringin forth of the TrumpCult and Disgrace of our once great country !

,

It was people like McConnel that have been playing with the fire that Trump n Cump always were, and they could have been, SHOULD have had him extinguished right then and there, but their wanton pathetic pursuit of power left the Golden Shower abull to reinsert himself due to their pursuit of power and wealth,

right in a position to cry and deny, asz they continued with he to LIE LIE LIE,

and now that the fleas can't flee,

we are again faced with the ultimate DISGRACE THEY HAVE ALLOWED

buy being BOUGHT, and bringing frought, a SIck incdividual that they remained not aloud about, 

and now, with his very own words of condemnation, Mitchs ' and his fellow R bitches tell all books and such, explain how they are snitches, that will require many a year and suture of stitches, to F he doesn't get elected,

to Disinfect it....

Disinfect US Allfrom the Golden Shower STAIN Trump has left on US forever,and because not enuff clever were they, our entirecountry is left to pay

for what LYING SCUMBAG REPUBLICAN & FAR RIGHT REVOLTING R's have left US

so to they i say F U give a shit about a onv=ce great country

keep that POS out of our White House

it is the TRUE AMERICAN THING TO DO 

and is owed to USAll

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.1.5  Thomas  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.3    one month ago
Movements have goals, other than getting Trump elected MAGA has no goals independent of Trump.

Don't you understand that Trump is not the goal of the movement? 

If Trump loses the election, do you think all of the assholes will just vanish? That they will just throw away project 2025? That the evangelicals will suddenly not see him as their deliverance? 

Who supports fascists? (This is really not that hard of a question)

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.6  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Thomas @1.1.5    one month ago

If Trump loses I think we will see a movement from those of the GOP who care about what the GOP used to stand for.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.1.7  Igknorantzruls  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.6    one month ago

im hoping its too late to save those scumbagz that would have enabled 45 to somehow stay alive and now threatens to again be 47, cause they deserve to be buried up to their necks with You're Fired Ants

n maybe a few uncles as well, but  we can't dwell, on fantasies

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.8  Ozzwald  replied to  Thomas @1.1.5    one month ago
If Trump loses the election, do you think all of the assholes will just vanish?

No, but I am hoping they crawl back under the rocks they came from, back when racism was not considered acceptable.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.9  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.6    one month ago

I'm hoping to see the tea party/maga trash swept from gov't, or at least made totally irrelevant ...

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1.10  Krishna  replied to  Thomas @1.1.2    one month ago
Concentrating all of our energies on defeating Trump and acting like the MAGA movement will cease to exist after such a time as he is, lends no credence to the millions of people out there who wish for him to succeed. Fascism is not one person, it is a governing system put in place to ensure a certain situation.

In that case I suppose it really doesn't pay to vote, eh? jrSmiley_26_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1.11  Krishna  replied to  Thomas @1.1.2    one month ago
MAGA exists as a movement no matter how hard we would like it not to be.

True.

And we could also say that about the American Nazi Party, as well as the KKK.

But (speaking just for myself of course) I've decided not to spend too much time worrying about that.

 
 
 
RavenWing
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1.1.12  RavenWing  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.1.4    one month ago

Very well said, Iggy.  

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1.13  Krishna  replied to  devangelical @1.1.9    one month ago
I'm hoping to see the tea party/maga trash swept from gov't, or at least made totally irrelevant ...

One race to watch to spot any possible developing trend is for Senate in AZ. Cary Lake (R) v. Ruben Gallego (D). Lake is a total Maga nutcase. I believe the race is still close, but the last I heard Gallego is slightly ahead. and seems to be moving up in the polls.

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1.14  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @1.1.13    one month ago
One race to watch to spot any possible developing trend is for Senate in AZ. Cary Lake (R) v. Ruben Gallego (D). Lake is a total Maga nutcase. I believe the race is still close, but the last I heard Gallego is slightly ahead. and seems to be moving up in polls.

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.1.15  Thomas  replied to  Krishna @1.1.10    one month ago

In that case I suppose it really doesn't pay to vote, eh?   jrSmiley_26_smiley_image.gif

That sentiment bears no resemblance to the spirit in which I wrote the quoted phrase.

I was pointing out that the underlying reason for the Trump phenomenon would not simply vanish if Trump is defeated at the ballot box. There are institutions dedicated to Trump, as I have shown elsewhere. These institutions are functioning. These people, these citizens of the US who comprise these institutions, are here and alive just as much as anybody else, so their input, their views, must be taken into account .

This does not mean capitulation, it means dialog.

When we retreat to the state of stale prejudice, we forfeit our right of self-determination to someone else.

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.1.16  Krishna  replied to  Thomas @1.1.15    one month ago
I was pointing out that the underlying reason for the Trump phenomenon would not simply vanish if Trump is defeated at the ballot box.

I totally agree. jrSmiley_2_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
JBB
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2  JBB    one month ago

If McConnell had shown any real national leadership during Trump's impeachment trials Trump would not even be eligible to run again...

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  JBB @2    one month ago

exactly.gif

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.1  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @2.1    one month ago

mc connell is in legacy repair mode now, before a permanent mental glitch takes him out of any political relevancy ...

 
 
 
RavenWing
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2.2  RavenWing  replied to  JBB @2    one month ago

As a convicted felon, is Trump not ineligible to hold the office as President? It would seem that he is being given special treatment that an average criminal person would not be given. 

However, I am not familiar with the laws that dictate the eligibility of convicted felons to sit in the Oval Office of America. If I was a convicted felon I feel sure I would not be eligible to run, much less hold, such a high official position.

JMOO

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.2.1  Snuffy  replied to  RavenWing @2.2    one month ago
As a convicted felon, is Trump not eligible to hold the office as President?

I'm afraid that yes he is eligible.

As a candidate for federal office, Trump is restricted only by requirements in the U.S. Constitution. Those requirements are straightforward: The president must be at least 35 years old, must be a natural-born U.S. citizen and must have lived in the U.S. for at least 14 years. There’s nothing on criminal convictions.

While Trump will be the first felon candidate   who could feasibly win enough votes to capture the presidency , he’s far from the first criminal to run for the office.

Most famously, Socialist Party nominee   Eugene V. Debs ran for president in 1920 from a prison cell   while serving a 10-year federal sentence for imploring his supporters to resist the World War 1 draft. He captured three percent of the vote.

Can Trump still be president as a convicted criminal? - POLITICO

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.2.2  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  RavenWing @2.2    one month ago

I suspect the framers believed that the electorate would never let a convicted felon have access to the powers of the presidency.   And in our history, we have never had a situation like Trump where the person who might be PotUS is so untrustworthy so no attempts have been made to change the necessary conditions for becoming PotUS.

In result, yes, a convicted felon (even one in jail) can be elected and serve as PotUS.

And to make things even more irritating, if Trump had been convicted in his last impeachment, he would have been ineligible to run.    Sickening, eh?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  RavenWing @2.2    one month ago

Good to see you around RavenWing.  It's been awhile.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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2.2.4  Thrawn 31  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.2    one month ago

Our founder were brilliant, and they changed the world for the better if not in any other way than the ideas thjey promoted and enacted. But man they made some serious fuck ups because they assumed people overall are rational and good. Unfortunately we are reaping the effects of their lack of omniscience. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.2.5  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Thrawn 31 @2.2.4    one month ago

And we have never addressed that oversight.   Worse, even with the Trump example, the SCotUS contradicted the CotUS to expand the legal immunity of a PotUS.

It is madness.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  Thrawn 31 @2.2.4    one month ago
But man they made some serious fuck ups because they assumed people overall are rational and good.

It's actually the opposite. They knew man was neither rational nor good, recognized demagogues as the biggest threat to the Republic and tried to enact barriers to power being concentrated in one person but have since seen many of those protections removed.  The whole idea of a limited central government is premised on the understanding that power corrupts and  will inevitably be used to  strengthen the power of the central government over individuals.  The founders were rightly, very cynical. The whole,   "a republic, if you can keep it" line from Franklin sums it up. 

It's the French Revolution, and it's ideological descendants that believe in the innate goodness of man. 

Court packing, removing the electoral college, removing the filibuster etc are the next steps in removing all structural impediments from centralizing power 

 
 
 
RavenWing
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2.2.7  RavenWing  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.2    one month ago

Thank you for the clarification of the eligibility of convicted felons POTUS election qualifications.

Indeed it is sickening that he was not convicted in his last impeachment. It would have saved all the mess of this election year. I don't think too many of Trumps personal armed army will be as willing to try to overthrow the American government by attacking the Capital bldg as they did last election if he loses again this year. Having seen and/or experienced the legal ramifications of their rebellious actions, I think they won't want to engage in the same kind of  actions. 

However, as the old saying goes, "If first you don't succeed, try, try again."  And based upon Trumps' supporters expressed ignorant devotions to him, I feel sure they will engage in some form of violence and risk their own lives to help ensure Trump is able to sit in the Oval Office again and he can declare himself America's dictator, like his idols Putin and Hitler. 

As America was once warned, :"Beware the enemy within."                                        

 
 
 
RavenWing
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2.2.8  RavenWing  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.3    one month ago

Thanks Tessylo. Good to be here again. I miss all my NT family, and hope I can be here more often. jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.2.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.6    one month ago
They knew man was neither rational nor good

Well, that sums up Trump supporters.

tried to enact barriers to power being concentrated in one person

And yet Trump has openly said he wants to be a dictator on day one and is currently surrounding himself with nothing but mindless yes men whose only job is to please their Dear Leader.

Court packing, removing the electoral college, removing the filibuster etc are the next steps in removing all structural impediments from centralizing power

And none of them are going to happen under Harris. Under Trump? That remains to be seen, but even his former chief of staff who is also a former General admits Donald fits the description of a fascist, so nothing is really out of the question if the MAGAites Fuhrer returns to power.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.2    one month ago

Gee, thanks, McConnell...

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.2.11  Krishna  replied to  Thrawn 31 @2.2.4    one month ago
But man they made some serious fuck ups because they assumed people overall are rational and good. Unfortunately we are reaping the effects of their lack of omniscience. 

Well, as a famous statesman once said:

“Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.”

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.2.12  Krishna  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.6    one month ago
It's the French Revolution, and it's ideological descendants that believe in the innate goodness of man.

So they're the ones who have been fucking up America for so long, eh?

I say we round them all up-- and deport them ASAP!

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.3  Krishna  replied to  JBB @2    one month ago
If McConnell had shown any real national leadership during Trump's impeachment trials Trump would not even be eligible to run again...

Actually he kind of "flirted with" that idea.  I basically agree with you-- he could've done more, a lot more.

But here's another very powerful example of when he did:

McConnell: Trump 'morally responsible' for Capitol riot

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.3.1  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @2.3    one month ago
But here's another very powerful example of when he did: McConnell: Trump 'morally responsible' for Capitol riot

Now I suspect that "The Usual Suspects" here will be in denial, make all sorts of excuses-- perhaps even accusing McConnell of.. being an actual Marxist!

 
 
 
RavenWing
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2.3.2  RavenWing  replied to  Krishna @2.3    one month ago

Amazing that, after kissing Trumps fat a$$ and singing his praises all these years, it appears that his wife suddenly gave him his balls back to stand up and tell the truth. "Better late than never" as they say.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.3.3  devangelical  replied to  RavenWing @2.3.2    one month ago

she sure took enough racist insults from trump to finally see the light ...

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3  Nerm_L    one month ago

Why are Democrats trying to convince themselves to become Republican?  This video, published by a left leaning news source, isn't speaking to Republicans.  These interviews, opinions, and political persuasions are directed toward Independents and Democrats with the purpose of turning back the clock.

Ronald Reagan wouldn't recognize today's Republican Party?  Why is that important?  Barack Obama doesn't recognize today's Republican Party; he's said so on the stump for Kamala Harris. 

Democrats are only jumping onto the political wagon of neocon and neoliberal Republicans because that's where they want to be.  Neocons and neoliberals have been running the country since Reagan and Democrats like it that way.  It's pretty clear that Democrats want to go back to that status quo.  Why else would Kamala Harris be campaigning with a neocon/neoliberal Republican like Liz Cheney?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Nerm_L @3    one month ago
Ronald Reagan wouldn't recognize today's Republican Party?  Why is that important? 

It illustrates how the GOP has lost its soul ... that it is unrecognizable.   It illustrates that the modern GOP is itself RINO.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  TᵢG @3.1    one month ago
It illustrates how the GOP has lost its soul ... that it is unrecognizable.   It illustrates that the modern GOP is itself RINO.

The Republican Party has turned its back on Ronald Reagan.  A Reagan Republican that doesn't adhere to that legacy is a RINO.  

Has Ronald Reagan been that good to Democrats?  Why are Democrats trying to revive that legacy?  Why are Reagan Democrats trying to become Republicans?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.2  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.1    one month ago

Focus, Nerm.

The point is that MAGA via Trump has poisoned the GOP.   It no longer makes sense as a party and is fundamentally different from its history.

The GOP is sick and it will not heal as long as Trump is empowered.

What is disgusting is that people like McConnell have known this for years yet instead of fighting the infection, he has fallen in line in pure hypocrisy.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.3  Nerm_L  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.2    one month ago
The point is that MAGA via Trump has poisoned the GOP.   It no longer makes sense as a party and is fundamentally different from its history.

The honest description is that Trump has changed the Republican Party.  Trump has ended the Reagan era for the Republican Party.  The Democratic Party went through a similar change when the party turned its back on Franklin Roosevelt.

The GOP is sick and it will not heal as long as Trump is empowered.

As long as Trump has influence over the party, Republicans won't backslide into the legacy of Reagan.  Hopefully the Republican Party can rid itself of neocons and neoliberals.  The Democratic Party seems to be offering neocons and neoliberals a safe harbor.

What is disgusting is that people like McConnell have known this for years yet instead of fighting the infection, he has fallen in line in pure hypocrisy.

You mean party leaders put party first?  Democrat leaders don't do the same thing?  Selective amnesia won't convince rational voters.  The only thing the public sees is dirty politics at its dirtiest.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.4  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.3    one month ago
The honest description is that Trump has changed the Republican Party. 

Of course he changed the party ... for the worse.

You mean party leaders put party first? 

No, Nerm, the party leaders did not put party (or country) first.   That is my point.  They put their own personal interests first and, in so doing, allowed Trump to further poison the GOP.

 
 
 
RavenWing
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3.1.5  RavenWing  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.2    one month ago

I followed my family's political stance as a young 18 y/o and voted Republican for most of my young adult life. Like many of my peers during that time I really didn't pay that much attention to the GOP politics, and they were not as rabid as they have become in the past few years that Trump has infected the party.

From his own doings, he has taught the GOP that it is A-OK to  lie, cheat, steal, break the law, and worship evil doings.  I feel that the events that took place on 1/6/2020, manifested and initiated by Trump to overthrow not only the election, but, America as as a whole, showed what kind of person Trump is, and his determined intention to eradicate our democracy and make him the dictator of our Country. It also displayed, and confirmed, the ignorance of the majority of his sheep, who are willing to settle for Trumps rotted garbage and give up their rights as American  citizens, the same rights that many of their own family members and ancestors gave their own lives to insure for their descendents. 

So...why did I leave the GOP when I did? Because by that time I was older and could see and understand where the GOP was headed, even before Trump arrived. That it is no longer a party for America and its people, but, a party that has sold its soul to the Devil for less than 20 pieces of silver.

JMOO 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.6  Nerm_L  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.4    one month ago
Of course he changed the party ... for the worse.

Really?  Trump is worse than Joe McCarthy, Trent Lott, Phil Gramm, Tom DeLay, Ted Stevens, Dick Cheney, Henry Hyde, Newt Gingrich?  

No, Nerm, the party leaders did not put party (or country) first.   That is my point.  They put their own personal interests first and, in so doing, allowed Trump to further poison the GOP.

Democrats want to forget that all this crap started when George McGovern only 17 electoral votes in 1972.  Lyndon Johnson had set a landslide record in 1964.  And Richard Nixon matched that landslide record in 1972.

Is Kamala Harris another George McGovern?  Certainly not.  But Democrats can't forget the fear of elections being a referendum on the Democratic Party.  And this election is shaping up to be a referendum on the Democratic Party.  Democrats are running scared.  And Democrats develop selective amnesia to justify their vile lies.

Donald Trump is not the worst Republican to come down the pike.  Hell, Trump isn't even as bad as a number of Democrats.  You know, George Wallace really was a Democrat.  And Wallace was certainly much worse than Trump.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.1.7  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.6    one month ago
Really?  Trump is worse than Joe McCarthy, Trent Lott, Phil Gramm, Tom DeLay, Ted Stevens, Dick Cheney, Henry Hyde, Newt Gingrich?

Emphatically yes. Democrats disagreed with many of the policies and positions of those listed, but most of them had some level of decency, perhaps with the exclusion of Joe McCarthy. But not even Joe would stoop to such vile disgusting actions and behaviors as dirty Donald has.

Donald Trump is not the worst Republican to come down the pike.  Hell, Trump isn't even as bad as a number of Democrats.  You know, George Wallace really was a Democrat.  And Wallace was certainly much worse than Trump.

Trump is definitely the worst Republican in most of our lifetimes and it's pretty funny that you have to reach WAAAAY back to try and find a Democrat to use as even a close approximation for how fucking racist Trump is. The fact is Wallace left the Democratic party and joined the far right American Independant Party because the Democrats were moving away from his racist rhetoric even then which is why we've witnessed the shift in the racist Southern States to Republican who capitalized on Democrat party authoring, supporting and signing into law the civil rights act and the voting rights act which is what caused the racist Southern States to turn into Republican strongholds over the last half century. And now the bitter bigots have come out of hiding to support their dear Leader and Racist-in-Chief as was clearly shown at the MSG rally this week. To continue to defend the indefensible character of Trump and his racist MAGA movement one has to either love that kind of racist shit or be so stupid and blind as to refuse to see it.

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.1.8  cjcold  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.1    one month ago

Reagan was a B actor and corporate bought and paid for low IQ fool who was against We the People just like all GOP presidents have been in recent years. 

Never understood why he was raised up as some sort of a god. He made decisions based on Nancy's astrology charts.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  cjcold @3.1.8    one month ago

Me either.  Devangelical relates a sordid history to him and I'm not surprised - never got the god status either - just like the former 'president'

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1.10  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.1    one month ago
The Republican Party has turned its back on Ronald Reagan

So what?

The Democratic Party has turned its back on President Franklin Pierce!

(Oh-- the horror!)

Now I'm going to decide whether of not to vote on the candidate I originally wanted!

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1.11  Krishna  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.2    one month ago
What is disgusting is that people like McConnell have known this for years yet instead of fighting the infection, he has fallen in line in pure hypocrisy.

Ironically, over short periods of time, slips into making  sense-- but then he quickly reverts back into Maga nonsense.

Check out the video in comment 2.3 When I first saw it I was really surprised. (But of course soon thereafter he slipped back into being his old self)  I guess even a stoped clock occasionally finds a nut!.

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1.12  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.3    one month ago
The only thing the public sees is dirty politics at its dirtiest.

Nope.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
3.1.13  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.6    one month ago
And Wallace was certainly much worse than Trump.

Fact:

In the late 1970s, Wallace announced that he became a  born-again Christian , and moderated his views on race, renouncing his past support for segregation.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.14  devangelical  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.1    one month ago
Has Ronald Reagan been that good to Democrats

... uh, too bad you can't ask liz taylor or jane wyman ...

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1.15  Krishna  replied to  TᵢG @3.1    one month ago
It illustrates how the GOP has lost its soul ... that it is unrecognizable. 

Way back, I think it was the eighties, The New England states, NJ & NY State often had Governors, Senators, etc who were Republican "moderates".. Ofren fairly liberal. In many cases so liberal that if someone told you they were Republicans you wouldn't believe it! 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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3.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  Nerm_L @3    one month ago

Because the GOP has become a neofascist cult of personality. I voted for Bush the second time around. havent made that mistake again. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.2.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3.2    one month ago
Because the GOP has become a neofascist cult of personality. I voted for Bush the second time around. havent made that mistake again. 

The adoration of Ronald Reagan wasn't a cult of personality?  Really?

And the adoration of the Clinton's and Obama's are certainly not cultish.  Nancy Pelosi doesn't try to be a cult leader?  

Kamala Harris hasn't been campaigning on issues.  She's been battling for ratings, likes, and followers like any other rock star -- or -- cult leader.  

The government enforced imposition of social reprogramming using CRT, DEI, gay rights, transvestite normalization, and advocacy for a brown majority isn't neofascism?  Far left liberalism hasn't become the new super race grabbing autocratic power over everything?  White isn't the new Jew?  Really?

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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3.2.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  Nerm_L @3.2.1    one month ago

No, they are not cults. Flat out, the support of Trump is something entirely diffrertent. Trying to bothsides it juast maikes you look like a jackass. 

Kamala Harris hasn't been campaigning on issues.  She's been battling for ratings, likes, and followers like any other rock star -- or -- cult leader.

...... for real? You have an issue with that concept but no issue with Trump? This is why I consider you to be a complete partisan clown with nothing of value to offer. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.3  devangelical  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3.2.2    one month ago
a complete partisan clown with nothing of value to offer

f'n A right.

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.2.4  cjcold  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3.2    one month ago

I actually voted for GHW Bush the first time. It wasn't until later, after doing the research, that I figured out that he was complicit in the assassination of JFK while he was CIA director. Oops my bad!

It's pretty obvious to anybody who has read the Warren report.

P.S. I also own a copy of the Mueller report. Which makes it obvious that Putin got Trump elected in 2016. Lets try to keep Putin from electing his lap dog in 2024!

VOTE BLUE!!!!!!!!!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.2.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  cjcold @3.2.4    one month ago

John McCone was Director of Central Intelligence, 1961-1965.

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.2.6  cjcold  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.2.5    one month ago

Yet another skull and bones assassin.

You should really study history rather than deny it.

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.2.7  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @3.2.1    one month ago
Nancy Pelosi doesn't try to be a cult leader?  

People have got to stay focused! (And stop asking uninportant questions!) Seriously, who cares whether or not Pelosi tried to be a cult leader. (And even if that wasn't important then, its less important now!)

Pssst-- here a little secret-- she's no longer in office!

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.2.8  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.2.7    one month ago
People have got to stay focused! (And stop asking uninportant questions!) Seriously, who cares whether or not Pelosi tried to be a cult leader. (And even if that wasn't important then, its less important now!)

And get back to figuring out which Democratic politicians are turning their collective backs-- and whom they are turning them on!

I'll go first-- who was Grover Cleveland turning his back on-- and why?

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.2.9  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.2.8    one month ago
I'll go first-- who was Grover Cleveland turning his back on-- and why?

(Some people think that "Grover" was actually the family dog-- sheesh! That dog was actually"Rover"-- not the back-turning scoundrel Grover!)

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.10  devangelical  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3.2    one month ago

my cousin was an 8 year bush appointee and got my beloved aunt and uncle, now deceased, a trip to crawford texas for a barbecue. they were very proud of that and I certainly wasn't going to piss on them over it, even tho I thought Jr was a moron.

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.2.11  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @3.2.1    one month ago
Nancy Pelosi doesn't try to be a cult leader?

Nancy Pelosi is no longer in office! (But you probably knew that, eh? jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif )

 
 
 
George
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3.2.12  George  replied to  Krishna @3.2.11    one month ago
Nancy Pelosi is no longer in office!

When did that happen? she is still in Congress according to everything i read. and she just forced the sitting president to step aside. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.13  devangelical  replied to  George @3.2.12    one month ago

what a pity, 7 years of running against biden wasted, and now the maga candidate is the one older than dirt ...

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.2.14  Nerm_L  replied to  Krishna @3.2.11    one month ago
Nancy Pelosi is no longer in office! (But you probably knew that, eh? )

Really?  So, who is representing the California 11th District?

You do realize that the House Speaker is not an elected office.  Voters do not choose the House Speaker.  In fact, the Speaker typically is not selected by sitting members of the House.  According to House rules, a Speaker must be selected before the incoming Representatives can be seated.  Those who select the Speaker are really only representing political parties since they haven't been sworn in as sitting members of the House.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.3  MrFrost  replied to  Nerm_L @3    one month ago
Ronald Reagan wouldn't recognize today's Republican Party?  Why is that important?

Because back then the GOP cared about the people of this country. Now all they care about is power and money. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.3.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  MrFrost @3.3    one month ago
Now all they care about is power and money.

Power, money and retribution against those they feel have disrespected their ideology of racist white conservative Christian superiority.

 
 
 
RavenWing
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3.3.2  RavenWing  replied to  MrFrost @3.3    one month ago
Now all they care about is power and money.

And in order to achieve those two direly important goals, getting re-elected is the key to their success in gaining as much power and money as they can,  Even their own family can fall short of importance compared to their insuring their re-election.

 
 
 
fineline
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3.3.3  fineline  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.3.1    one month ago

Exactly, false churches, bigotry and greed !

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.4  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @3    one month ago
Why are Democrats trying to convince themselves to become Republican? 

Good question!

I have friends (and relatives, co-workers) of all political stripes!

And I notied that what you just said is 100% true-- all the Democrats are forever trying to comvince themselves to become Republicans!

It never stops-- they're all so obsessed with that!

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.4.1  cjcold  replied to  Krishna @3.4    one month ago

This is the first time I've ever disagreed with you.

Maybe if I had the slightest idea of what you meant.

As an independent, can't claim to know.  

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
3.4.2  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.4    one month ago
And I notied that what you just said is 100% true-- all the Democrats are forever trying to comvince themselves to become Republicans!

Ooops-- I did it again. 

I inadvertantly omited the /sarcasm label.

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.4.3  Krishna  replied to  cjcold @3.4.1    one month ago
This is the first time I've ever disagreed with you. Maybe if I had the slightest idea of what you meant.

My apologies!

It was meant as sarcasm! 

(From now on I will remember to use the /sarc label!

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
3.5  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @3    one month ago
Democrats are only jumping onto the political wagon of neocon and neoliberal Republicans because that's where they want to be.  Neocons and neoliberals have been running the country since Reagan and Democrats like it that way. 

But what about those so-called "Marxists" alledgedly running the Democratic party-- you know-- the ones Republicans love to talk about?

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.5.1  cjcold  replied to  Krishna @3.5    one month ago

And here I thought that Trump and Putin were anal.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
3.5.2  Krishna  replied to  cjcold @3.5.1    one month ago
And here I thought that Trump and Putin were anal.

Well its widely known that they are lovers-- but we can only speculate about they express that!

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.6  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @3    one month ago
Barack Obama doesn't recognize today's Republican Party; he's said so on the stump for Kamala Harris. 

Why are you even mentioning that?

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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4  Thrawn 31    one month ago

But he will never acknowledge his role in it because he is a piece of shit. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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5  sandy-2021492    one month ago

So, they're completely wrong, but he's endorsing Trump, anyway.

What a useless shitstain, and simultaneously an illustration of the sickness that has taken hold of the GOP.

 
 
 
cjcold
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5.1  cjcold  replied to  sandy-2021492 @5    one month ago

Putin is using Trump to take over America.

Those who can't see it are MAGA fools.

 
 
 
JBB
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5.1.1  JBB  replied to  cjcold @5.1    one month ago

24

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
5.1.2  Krishna  replied to  JBB @5.1.1    one month ago

That is certainly a very strange creature (in comment 5.1.1).

 
 
 
RavenWing
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5.1.3  RavenWing  replied to  JBB @5.1.1    one month ago

LOL! Looks like he just laid a big fart and tried to blame it on someone else. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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6  Kavika     one month ago

Mitch falls into the category of girly men (Thanks Arnold) none of them have any backbone. Trump insults them, denigrates them, insults their wives and what do they do, ‘’May I have more porridge, Sir.’’

To think that at one time the Republican Party had a backbone. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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6.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Kavika @6    one month ago

I think the Republican backbone died with John McCain.  I didn't agree with him politically, but he deflected low blows against his political opponent.  He was a man of honor.

Now, we have the likes of Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
6.1.1  Kavika   replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1    one month ago

Hopefully we won’t have Cruz after the election.

 
 
 
RavenWing
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6.1.2  RavenWing  replied to  Kavika @6.1.1    one month ago

Then he can take an extended vacation to Cancun as he wanted when he left his constituents to suffer freezing cold during the devastating power outage across Texas a few years ago, claiming it was due to his daughters urging.

That he immediately returned to suffer with his voters when his leaving while seeking a warmer climate was found out, thinking his excuse would allow him to save face and his votes for reelection. Disgusting, as a better word is not suitable for NT.

Hopefully, the people in his district will have grown tired of his BS and elect someone new.

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @6.1.1    one month ago

ted probably has to sleep in a locked room, in his own home ...

 
 
 
Krishna
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6.1.4  Krishna  replied to  Kavika @6.1.1    one month ago
Hopefully we won’t have Cruz after the election.

There's a good chance Cruz will lose this time around.

 
 
 
RavenWing
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6.1.5  RavenWing  replied to  Krishna @6.1.4    one month ago

Fingers crossed. While he isn't in my state, he still collects too many flies that have a bad influence on other venues.

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.1.6  devangelical  replied to  RavenWing @6.1.5    one month ago

most people in texas can't stand cruz, but it's still texas and he's got an R behind his name ...

 
 
 
RavenWing
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6.1.7  RavenWing  replied to  devangelical @6.1.6    one month ago

From what I see in the Texas Governor Abbot and some Senators like Cruz they have chosen over the years, the level of intelligence of those who elected them has not changed for the better.. 

However, I do not think that all Republicans are willing to sell their souls, and those of their loved ones, to the Devil politics for power and fame they are in no way qualified for. I hope to see more of them willing to put America and their own people before the Party of Trump, as that is not what it cares about.

JMOO

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @6.1.6    one month ago

In Maryland we're betting really heavily against Larry Hogan getting into the Senate because that will tip to favor the right and I don't trust Hogan one damn bit.  

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
6.1.9  cjcold  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1    one month ago

Don't forget MTG and Gaetz and Boebert and Perry and so many others who only care about party propaganda and misinformation while ignoring the rule of law.

 
 
 
Thomas
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6.1.10  Thomas  replied to  RavenWing @6.1.7    one month ago
However, I do not think that all Republicans are willing to sell their souls, and those of their loved ones, to the Devil politics for power and fame they are in no way qualified for. I hope to see more of them willing to put America and their own people before the Party of Trump, as that is not what it cares about.

Let us hope that this is so.

 
 
 
Krishna
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6.1.11  Krishna  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.8    one month ago
In Maryland we're betting really heavily against Larry Hogan getting into the Senate because that will tip to favor the right and I don't trust Hogan one damn bit. 

I had thought that Maryland was a fairly progressive state (a big city-- Baltimore as well as the suburbs of D.C.)

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.1.12  cjcold  replied to  devangelical @6.1.3    one month ago

Likely an undisclosed location.

 
 
 
George
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7  George    one month ago

Wasn't the left just telling us that McConnel was mentally incompetent? now they care what he says.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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7.1  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  George @7    one month ago

'The left' is not a single voice with a single position on each issue.

Your comment implies that you disagree with McConnell's assessment of MAGA.  

 
 
 
George
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7.1.1  George  replied to  TᵢG @7.1    one month ago

No my comment illustrates the confirmation bias inherent in the TDS crowd. people who would trust nothing a McConnell or Chaney would say now believe then unflinchingly.

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1.2  devangelical  replied to  George @7.1.1    one month ago

mc connell will be the first special election in '25, after he mentally glitches out the next time ...

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.3  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  George @7.1.1    one month ago

And you just reinforced my point by lumping all those of 'the left' into a single persona.   That is the fallacy of faulty generalization.

There certainly are people who operate on confirmation bias.   But you have indicated that this is how 'the left' as a whole operates.   That is absurd.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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7.1.4  Igknorantzruls  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.3    one month ago
you have indicated that this is how 'the left' as a whole operates.   That is absurd.

from so many who operate on 'the right' as a whole, because so many have proven to be, as a whole, on the right, it just seems apropos that their projection shows them not the light bout how so many, as Mitch plainly examples, dimmed or exterminated that light so others not so bright possibly on 'the right' were not able to see what was so blindingly bright to to say so many Republican Leaders, and possibly a few like me and you.

The Republicans got in line and supported one that should have certainly been thwarted and aborted , The WHOLE PARTY withvery few exceptions, sold this country out. F U Mitch!

 
 
 
RavenWing
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7.1.5  RavenWing  replied to  George @7.1.1    one month ago

However, even one well known to be a total idiot can have a credible thought at some point, even if by accident. I think this is one such thought for McConnell. Whether or not it may have an adverse effect on his future in the Senate waits to be seen. 

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
7.1.6  George  replied to  RavenWing @7.1.5    one month ago
adverse effect on his future in the Senate waits to be seen.

Since he is stepping down as Minority leader and not running for re-election not sure that it will have any effect at all.

 
 
 
RavenWing
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7.1.7  RavenWing  replied to  George @7.1.6    one month ago
and not running for re-election

I never believe that statement will ever happen until said election is over. There have been more than a few on both sides over the years who have swore they won't run for re-election again, only to actually do just that. 

So for me, it will be interesting to see if McConnell is true to his word.

 
 
 
Krishna
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7.1.8  Krishna  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.3    one month ago
There certainly are people who operate on confirmation bias.   But you have indicated that this is how 'the left' as a whole operates.   That is absurd

Over many decades of participating in online social media forums. I've noticed two logical fallacies that are fairly common:

1. Over-generalizing-- making frequent generalizations.

2. Making too many assumptions

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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7.1.9  afrayedknot  replied to  Krishna @7.1.8    one month ago

“…fallacies that are fairly common:

1. Over-generalizing-- making frequent generalizations.

2. Making too many assumptions”

…if I may add:

3. Citing the dictionary definition of words we all know to buttress a point

4. Parroting the party line to buttress a point…we have heard it already 

5. Being a contrarian, regardless of topic, to buttress nothing 

 …just my observations 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  Igknorantzruls @7.1.4    one month ago

Any republican who still supports the former 'president' are the ones who sold us out, and are responsible for 1/6.

 
 
 
RavenWing
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7.1.11  RavenWing  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.10    one month ago

I read today that Trump already has his scapegoat picked out if he loses. Likely one of his most loyal aides.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
7.1.12  cjcold  replied to  George @7.1.1    one month ago

So believing simple truth is alien to you?

Crossing party lines for truth is abhorrent?

The far right has become evil personified.

 
 
 
cjcold
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7.1.13  cjcold  replied to  George @7.1.1    one month ago

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Krishna
Professor Expert
7.1.14  Krishna  replied to  George @7.1.1    one month ago
people who would trust nothing a McConnell or Chaney would say now believe then unflinchingly.

I wonder... why can't people be more like you?

Once you have an idea or opinion-- you never, ever change it.

(Even if more facts become known-- always stick to your original opinion!)

I APPLAUD YOU!  jrSmiley_81_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
7.1.15  Krishna  replied to  afrayedknot @7.1.9    one month ago
Being a contrarian, regardless of topic, to buttress nothing 

I rarely do any of those,if at all.

But I frequently am a contrarian regardless of topic!

People often think it dsoen't butress anything-- but that assumption is erroneous!

(People don't know why I do it-- so they assume it has no purpose-- but as with most assumptions they are wrong!)

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7.1.16  devangelical  replied to  RavenWing @7.1.11    one month ago
Trump already has his scapegoat picked out if he loses

his VP pick, vance ...

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
7.1.17  Krishna  replied to  TᵢG @7.1.3    one month ago
There certainly are people who operate on confirmation bias.   But you have indicated that this is how 'the left' as a whole operates.   That is absurd.

Exactly.

If that foolish claim were true (That"the Left" all thought the same)....we'd never have primaries!

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
7.1.18  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @7.1.14    one month ago
I wonder... why can't people be more like you?

Once you have an idea or opinion-- you never, ever change it.

(Even if more facts become known-- always stick to your original opinion!)

I APPLAUD YOU!  

FWIW, that was meant as sarcasm.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.19  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Krishna @7.1.18    one month ago

Clearly.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
7.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  George @7    one month ago
Wasn't the left just telling us that McConnel was mentally incompetent?

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

now they care what he says.

I don't really care about what he says, and I've never agreed with his politics or policy, but what he says does say a lot about the current state of the Republican party. They are not by any measure, the party of Lincoln. They are now the party of hate, bigotry, ignorance, grievance and their real agenda is to Make America Gross Again because racist pigs love to wallow in hate filled slop.

 
 
 
evilone
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7.2.1  evilone  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.2    one month ago

He had his chance when he ran the Senate. He chose not to for politics. He can fuck right off now. Moscow Mitch won't be missed when he's gone.

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.2.2  devangelical  replied to  evilone @7.2.1    one month ago

... talk about somebody that's way too old to be in office, even his senate posse relics are a bunch of doddering old fools ...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7.2.3  devangelical  replied to  evilone @7.2.1    one month ago
Moscow Mitch won't be missed when he's gone.

he's also known as mitch the bitch in DC ...

 
 
 
cjcold
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7.2.4  cjcold  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.2    one month ago

Far right wingers are now the party of Trump which makes every single one of them as stupid and as evil as Trump. Have never seen fascism and divisiveness this bad since the Civil war.

VOTE BLUE FOLKS

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
7.2.5  cjcold  replied to  evilone @7.2.1    one month ago

The POS Is mostly responsible for far right wing fascism on the Supreme court. Fuck him!

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
7.2.6  Krishna  replied to  devangelical @7.2.2    one month ago
... talk about somebody that's way too old to be in office, even his senate posse relics are a bunch of doddering old fools ...

We have minimum age requirements to run for office-- IMO its time we also have maximum age requirements-- an age where people must leave office!

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
7.3  Krishna  replied to  George @7    one month ago
Wasn't the left just telling us

Who is "The Left"?

I know several people who are on "The Left". Which ones are you referring to? (Which one do you alledge is "telling us something"?

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
7.3.1  cjcold  replied to  Krishna @7.3    one month ago

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Krishna
Professor Expert
7.4  Krishna  replied to  George @7    one month ago
Wasn't the left just telling us that McConnel was mentally incompetent? now they care what he says.

And the Republicans were telling us that Biden was mentally incompetant-- and the right was caring about what he says.

Honi soit qui mal y pense!

 
 
 
Thomas
Masters Guide
8  Thomas    one month ago
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Well, I guesswe are showing our age.... Broken clocks these days tend to show nothing :)

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
8.1  Krishna  replied to  Thomas @8    one month ago
Well, I guesswe are showing our age.... Broken clocks these days tend to show nothing

Well then, try this one on for size:

Even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut.

 
 
 
Thomas
Masters Guide
8.1.1  Thomas  replied to  Krishna @8.1    one month ago

Even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut.

Let us hope that some enjoyment was involved. 

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
8.1.2  Krishna  replied to  Thomas @8.1.1    one month ago
Let us hope that some enjoyment was involved

I suppose that would depend on whether you were the Squirrel-- or the nut!

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
8.2  cjcold  replied to  Thomas @8    one month ago

My Rolex Daytona has kept perfect time for decades. Have you?

 
 
 
Thomas
Masters Guide
8.2.1  Thomas  replied to  cjcold @8.2    one month ago
My Rolex Daytona has kept perfect time for decades. Have you?

Perfect? Personally? No, of course not. But I keep time well, even in odd meters.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
8.2.2  Krishna  replied to  cjcold @8.2    one month ago
My Rolex Daytona has kept perfect time for decades.

I've experienced the same thing with all three of my Rolexes as well!

(But unfortunately that's not the case with my two Patek Philippes. jrSmiley_5_smiley_image.png )

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
8.2.3  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @8.2.2    one month ago
I've experienced the same thing with all three of my Rolexes as well!

After all, as someone here has mentioned:

Movements have goals . .

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
8.2.4  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @8.2.3    one month ago
Movements have goals . .

OMG-- bad pun!

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
8.2.5  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @8.2.4    one month ago
Movements have goals . .
OMG-- bad pun!

If anyone missed it: Watches have movements (although most watches I've known are not members of any political movements):

Watch Movements: A Comprehensive Guide and FAQ

 
 
 
freepress
Freshman Silent
9  freepress    one month ago

Too late now. If you look back at so many Republicans who spoke out against Trump prior to him running or after he announced and look at how cowardly they all were by changing their tune. They have flip flopped so much it's almost comical if it weren't and absolute tragedy how badly Republicans failed their own voters. Even JD Vance trashed Trump until he found a way to spin an about face in order to gain politically for himself. No morals or convictions, just open greed and disgusting abandonment of all principles. It should always be country over party, but Republicans true colors have already been shown and they are not the "red, white and blue" as they claim. No genuine patriotism or loyalty to their voters at all.

 
 

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