Patrick Harvie slams John Swinney for congratulating 'misogynist & racist' President Trump
By: The Scottish Sun
How wonderful for our nation to have Trump as our voice and face. 
Trump continues to make history —in bad ways— for the USA.
Trump support is irrational, irresponsible, and unpatriotic.
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The Greens co-leader Patrick Harvie condemned John Swinney for congratulating President Trump on his election victory. Mr Harvie said 'Yesterday, the First Minister offered congratulations to the convicted felon, Donald Trump, on his re-election. Writing officially on behalf of the Scottish government, he wrote that he is sure Scotland's cultural and social ties with the US will flourish during the presidency of a 'misogynist, a climate denier, a fraudster, a conspiracy monger, a racist, a far right politician who tried to overturn an election result, both covertly and by inciting violence.' Words fail me.
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Patrick Harvey: Yesterday the first Minister offered congratulations to the convicted felon Donald Trump on his reelection writing officially on behalf of the Scottish government he wrote that he is sure Scotland's cultural and social ties with the US will flourish during the presidency of a misogynist, a climate denier, a fraudster, a conspiracy monger, a racist, a far-right politician who tried to overturn an election result both covertly and by inciting violence. Words fail me what social and and cultural ties does the first Minister really think will benefit from a relationship with such a man and more importantly what has the first Minister done so far to reach out to the marginalized and vulnerable people whose lives are most directly threatened by a second Trump term?
First minister: Presiding officer uh I have a duty as first minister of Scotland to engage with other governments and to represent the people of Scotland in that process and as part of that Duty I wrote the letter in question that Mr Harvey cites um. I think there are deep cultural social and economic ties between Scotland and the United States of America I think they're important. They're important for employment in our economy, they're important for the cultural expression of our country and for the way in which we are able to pursue those objectives. So whilst there are very clearly because of what I said before the presidential election uh very big real differences in expression and in priority and in way of life between me and Donald Trump I cannot deny the the existence of links between Scotland and the United States and regardless of the president presidential choice in the United States I want to maintain good relationships between Scotland and the United States. And what I would say to Mr Harvey and I think he knows me well enough to know that the concerns of people who feel marginalized in our society who feel under threat are questions and concerns that I wrestle with every single day as first Minister because I stood here and I pledged to be the first minister of all of Scotland and that's entirely what I intend to do.
Patrick Harvey: Big differences of priority this sounds like extraordinary complacency at a time of incredible danger for the world. The reelection of Trump is particularly dangerous for climate policy. This is someone who has pedaled climate conspiracy theories for many years but such threats exist in Scotland too. The first Minister's government is on the verge of making a decision on a new fossil fueled power station at Peter head. Last week the researchers at Carbon tracker revealed that the emissions from this power station could be five times worse than the companies that would profit from it have admitted the first Minister has the power to demand a new environmental impact assessment to make sure these companies come clean about the pollution their scheme would cause.. Will he do so and does he accept that until he does ministers could be breaking the law if they sign off this Reckless fossil fuel development?
First Minister: Presiding officer the application at Peter head is a live application and I would be breach I'd be breaching the ministerial code if I was to make any detailed comments about it there will be processes of scrutiny to be undertaken which ministers will undertake. uh On the basis of the information and of course all decisions of this government uh can be the subject to Legal challenge because of the Constitution of this Parliament this government takes uh incredibly seriously the obligations that we have on tackling climate change uh. The Net Zero secretary steered through Parliament on Tuesday the final stages of the climate change H targets bill and the government of course is considering all of the issues in relation to the tackling of climate change in the budget priorities that we take forward. And I assure Mr Harvey of our absolute determination to do so no change of government in the United States is going to change this government's attitude about the imperative of addressing the climate emergency here.
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One might say we are the laughing stock of the world if this were not such a serious matter (for everyone).
Trump support is irrational, irresponsible, and unpatriotic.
Most nations followed the usual international courtesies. What rarely comes to light is the kind of internal discord exemplified in Scotland's case. More likely it would be even rarer for us to have witnessed the disbelief, laughter and disgust that most likely transpired behind closed doors abroad.
The Prime Minister is correct in that he has to find a way to work with Trump, he nonetheless also publicly recognized the abysmal choice of our electorate:
Yeah, the USA really dealt us a bad hand with Trump, but it is my job to play it.
“…the USA really dealt us a bad hand with Trump, but it is my job to play it.”
Scotland does not have a large stake in the game, but his comments are certainly echoed across the table. The obvious autocratic players are all in. Here’s hoping those with a larger stake call the bluff and make trump show his hand and never fold, as he has an enormous tell. Let the chips fall where they may, as some are playing tiddlywinks…metaphor aside.
It was interesting that he didn't reject the characterization that Harvey makes of Trump in his response. He knows, as does everyone else in the world who doesn't have their head shoved up Donalds dirty balloon knot, that Trump is "a misogynist, a climate denier, a fraudster, a conspiracy monger, a racist, a far-right politician who tried to overturn an election result both covertly and by inciting violence". The Prime Minister is basically just resigned to working with the Mango Mussolini because the US is too important to ignore for four years and the only choice everyone has is to just grin and bear it and hope it's over quickly so we can all get on with our lives and forget about those fucking useless moron MAGA bigots and their fat King rat felon they mindlessly follow.
Well put, but its going to take more than time to get rid of trumpism.
The left's one-trick pony died on Nov. 5th. Flogging a dead carcass will only make the mess worse. The odd thing about the wailing is that the left created the reasons out of whole cloth. Yeah, Trump 45 could have been sold as an aberration. But Trump 47 proves that the left's worldview is myopic, self-serving, and out of touch. And the stench from their trick pony can't be ignored any longer.
Funny how these climate criers always demand that others fix the problem. Shifting the burden is not an attempt to equitably solve the problem. Climate science has only been about the money. Money is always the topic of discussion. And when munificent expectations remain unmet, the shrill threats to drown the puppies only grow louder.
The left doesn't want to cooperate. The left only wants to dictate. And the left wants to be carried piggy-back. The left demonstrates that it's easy to snipe from the peanut gallery. Too bad the left always screw up everything when they're in charge. The left fears Trump because something might actually get done and the left may have to actually share the burden. But they won't get any money for their hardship.
Scotland can't make up it's mind to be independent member of NATO, remain subject of the UK, or just gripe for the sake of griping. One thing is for certain, money is of paramount importance in the halls of ministries in Edinburgh. Culture be damned.
“Culture be damned.”
As some will damn our culture, our history, and our future in sycophantic support of one who has absolutely no understanding of these things in a purely puritanical effort to make it personal.
Putrid.
And what is our culture? Eurocentric traditions have been deemed fascist. Eurocentric traditions are only celebrated by a 'basket of deplorables', or, as Barack Obama stated it, "And it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations".
And even more amazing is the left never, ever considered the possibility of a backlash.
Why should America have special reverence for European traditions? It wouldnt be because of race would it?
“And what is our culture?”
Perhaps it lies in appreciation of the freedoms we collectively enjoy.
Certainly not in some bastardized notion of rugged, and in the next four years, ragged individualism.
What does race have to do with culture? Europe is a continent, not a race. Our worldview has been shaped by European religions, philosophy, law, art, science, medicine, economics, and social organization. That Eurocentric worldview is so attractive, so robust, so influential, so successful that peoples of the rest of the world want to immigrate, emulate, and appropriate European cultural traditions.
If race was that damned important then explain why people of the same race do not share the same cultural traditions.
Because they are from different cultures and religions with different traditions?
As much as some distance themselves from this comment, sometimes it hurts to be right
...."I cannot deny the existence of links between Scotland and the United States and regardless of the president presidential choice in the United States I want to maintain good relationships between Scotland and the United States."
Yeah, that's what it basically boils down to. Aways try to deal with your friends and adversaries in a non-confrontational way, and it might end up with positive results. Continually raging on and on about the collective decision by a very diverse electorate is irrational, irresponsible, and unpatriotic. Time for the lefties to grow up and do some critical thinking about the real reasons why the Dems lost this election so decisively.
And of course you ignore the point.
Trump is a disaster. He is a national embarrassment. World leaders do not respect the buffoon and are undoubtedly working through contingencies for the extemporaneous edicts that Trump will attempt while PotUS.
Supporting this abysmal character is unpatriotic, irrational, and irresponsible.
We don't need his help, especially when Americans go to Europe.
I'm always careful to avoid accusing people who see things differently than I do as "unpatriotic". That sort of rhetoric never ends well.
Irrelevant. We are talking about Trump as the face and voice of the USA.
Supporting an arrogant, vindictive, narcissistic, pathological liar, loose-cannon with a God complex who believes he is always the smartest guy in the room and is above the law for PotUS is unpatriotic.
Completely relevant. He's not the only face and voice. You're trying to establish that he somehow reflects poorly on our nation. You are imagining that viewpoint isn't already prevailing, or that somehow Trump will make that worse. If you knew how bad it already is, you'd laugh at the suggestion.
It's not even unusual. You could say most of all of that about Clinton (either one), Nixon, or LBJ, just for a few. Are we going to call all of Bill Clinton's supporters "unpatriotic"? I don't like where this leads.
Look, I realize you are 200% bought in on the anti-Trump hysteria bandwagon. But that doesn't mean that anyone who disobeys your voting instructions is unpatriotic.
So what? The fact that he is not the only representative of the USA does not change the fact that he is the PotUS and thus the preeminent voice and face for the USA.
I am stating that Trump makes it worse.
Not even in the same ballpark as Trump. You are trying to normalize Trump. Akin to trying to soften Trump's pathological lying by claiming 'all politicians lie'. It is a dishonest tactic and I doubt anyone buys it.
And there you go again exaggerating (and as usual making this personal) in a continuing crusade to excuse Trump's faults.
There has been none, as in no one, even remotely close to the 'ballpark' Trump Frankly Plumps while cooking up more illegal schemes that seem to be the only means this criminal knows, and it does, it truly blows, so i have decided to sit back and watch those like Jack excuse and defend to no end, cause there won't be. Trump will continue to push each and every aspect of a law observing government that he possibly can.
In his latest appointment of Peter Navaro, he again shows US All how picking one fresh out of prison shouldn't be known as 'division', just more patriotic pickenz in a blatant a tempt to bring us all together with one who screamed election steal, without a Happy Meal, to McShove down 'Patriotic" hungry partisans pusses gullets, you know, the ones sportin the mullets and believing all the deceiving they were receiving, cause being duped by a known proven LIAR, ain't exactly Patriotic attire, as worn thin, is the skin of those been rubbed, and over dubbed, because being too stubborn to hear the full story, doesn't bring patriotic glory, it just leaves people who don't get or understand the full story about what transpired, and that is not Patriotism, it is denial.
Nixon hired burglars.
You're trying to incite hysteria about Trump, and you attack any idea that doesn't completely comply with yours. You've now begun the phase of attacking anyone who offers such ideas. They're "dishonest" or "unpatriotic" or "flawed" or "misled" as though they're too stupid to think for themselves.
I'm guessing you miss the irony in the use of "God-complex".
If I do have a continuing crusade, it is simply to remind people that Trump (while definitely flawed) is not the end of the world and his supporters are not inferior human beings, despite ongoing arrogant liberal ideology to the contrary.
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I don't support the man. What I do and will continue to support is the efforts of the right wingers/Republicans/ and yes, even those who to prefer to be called MAGA to turn this country around from the disastrous and destructive policies, programs, and practices the progressives have unleashed across all levels of society.
Greg started it. Maybe you should have addressed his comment and not TiG's similar response?
Why are you ignoring all the whoppers that Biden has told over 50 years of "service"? Or excusing Bill Clinton's bad behavior?
No, Tig started it some time ago....it's become a standard favorite phrase of his, endlessly repeated.
and of course, you being one of the oldest people here, just have to keep setting a great example with all of your hateful partisan rhetoric including the unpatriotic part ?
That's pretty indefensible.
How many years of "service" have you done ?
and who the hell is still mad about Bill Clinton's behavior.
i'll go with Greg
Not in the same ballpark as Trump. Trump tried to steal a US presidential election using fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement. For starters.
Oh stop with the absurd claims. I comment on Trump based on facts. Your try to portray every criticism of Trump as hysteria. That is just your style of apologetics for Trump.
No, Jack, you portray every criticism of Trump as "end of the world" even when the criticism is well-founded and stated in an analytical fashion.
Why drives you to defend this scoundrel?
You might want to read your comments ... objectively.
They will endlessly try to put lipstick on the pig that is Trump. That is what we have now.
Who says that I am? Focus, just a bit Greg. You do not see me making outrageous ... delusional ... defenses for Biden. There is no comparing the level of wrongdoing of Trump to any other PotUS in our lifetimes ... and arguably in our nation's history.
Explain then how it is patriotic, rational, and responsible to support Trump.
This, above all else.
So you didn't vote for trump?
my asz he didn't
You comment on Trump based on your interpretation of the facts, and accept no alternate interpretation.
Your designation of people as unpatriotic because they don't follow your instructions is not a fact.
You mistake calls for reason as a defense of Trump.
There's absolutely nothing well-founded or analytical in doom and gloom, sky is falling, nonsensical assertions like how our international reputation will be damaged or trade partnerships will be ruined simply because a man you despise will be in the White House.
Every Trump appointee is met as though they are some sort of super villain.
It may have escaped your notice, but a strong populist conservative wave has swept across Europe, from Italy to Finland and many points in between. Trump is one of many very controversial world leaders in this new group, and is less conservative than most.
The French government collapsed yesterday, and you imagine that they're somehow concerned about Donald Trump.
It's ridiculous.
I do not agree with everything you write. You will have to learn to deal with that.
My statement is that support of Trump is unpatriotic. I recognize that Trump supporters like you appear to be given your comments will disagree. Does not mean my opinion if incorrect.
You take objective analysis and exaggerate it to a ridiculous level and then criticize your invention. You take reasonable criticism and intentionally twist it into some hysterical variant so that you can pretend to be the wise voice of reason. And even if stroking your own ego is all that you are doing, your words are defending Trump (dishonestly).
A fine example. You characterize as "doom and gloom, sky is falling, nonsensical assertions" my observation that Trump's extemporaneous, gratuitous, ridiculous public threat to Canada, Mexico, and China before even sitting down with these nations privately is a stupid move that poisons international relationships. You go on to exaggerate what I wrote into "our ... trade partnerships will be ruined". Trump's words did indeed damage our international reputation (you cannot see this???) but then you exaggerate into "trade partnerships will be ruined" which is a ridiculous exaggeration on what I wrote. Dishonest and ridiculous.
You can offer no sound reason as to how this was a good move for the USA but instead you argue that since these leaders will meet with Trump that negates my assessment. That is ridiculous ... of course the leaders will meet with Trump ... no matter what the buffoon threatens, they will try to make the best out of a bad situation.
You apparently feel compelled to argue in defense of Trump but to engage in such dishonesty ... to exaggerate what people write and twist it into something hysterical ... is pathetic and further solidifies my view that your comments are not serious, not honest, just intentionally obnoxious.
And here you go again. Now you play games with time and take my comment about Trump and pretend I made it after the French problems hit critical mass and then pretend that I have argued that Trump's rhetoric is currently more important than their crisis. Utterly dishonest. I have made no such argument. But yet again you play fast and loose with strawman arguments. Pathetic.
The reality is that the French government is almost certainly concerned about dealing with Trump but that problem is clearly on the back burner in terms of priorities given Macron's no confidence problems.
The French government and French people are concerned with Donald Trump to the extent that his presidency will effect them. End of story.
Patrick Harvie seems like an incredibly annoying person. He’s exactly the type of hysterical moral scold that got trump elected.
Not the point.
The point is that Trump will be the face and voice of the USA and that world leaders will need to work around Trump's irrational demands and that they are all, quite likely, looking for ways to be less-dependent upon the USA given the American people have proven that we will irresponsibly elect an abysmal character, pathological liar, malignant narcissist, irresponsible, loose-cannon vindictive prick as our PotUS.
Trump thinks he is the king of Canada now.
Or is trolling the Canadian people, which is just as bad.
Some second tier government official insults his government for exercising basic politeness and somehow this is Trump's fault?
Yet again, American progressives will side with foreign leaders no matter how irrational or hostile so long as they attack Trump.
There are millions of MAGA who side with Putin. Who has Scotland killed lately?
Far right nut case Candace Owens has publicly sided with Putin because she says Russia has more freedom for Christians than Ukraine, and , she says, Zelensky is a homosexual.
Dont you ever wonder about the side you are on?
Yes. The criticism is spot on. The fact that it is spot on is Trump's fault.
Do you recognize any faults of Trump?
No, please leave those nice people alone
Lol. A Scottish party leader threw a hissy fit about his government being polite.
What does this have to do with Putin or killing anyone?
Lol. Of course. There's no insult, no pettiness from our supposed allies that a progressive won't justify.
WTF does any of this have to do with the scottish government simply offering perfunctory congratulation on winning an election?
You resort to making things personal in lieu of a rebuttal.
If Trump makes public, arrogant, ill-conceived demands of national leaders is it Trump's fault for doing so or do you merely blame his critics for daring to point out the obvious?
What's there to rebut? A party leader threw a hissy fit over his government acting like an adult and offering a perfunctory, routine congratulations and somehow the left manages to side with the crazy foreigner breaking diplomatic norms in order to attack America.
Nothing else really needs to be said.
akes public, arrogant, ill-conceived demands of national leaders is it Trump's fault
What "arrogant" demands of Scotland has Trump issued since being elected that necessitated a scottish politician throwing a tantrum over engaging in basic diplomatic norms ?
Hervie is acting exactly the way progressives accuse Trump of acting.
“ Do you ever wonder about the side you are on?”
That would take introspection. Won’t happen until the intoxication and hangover wears off. If then.
Oh it's definitely a point. Just not one you'll find convenient.
Harvie is a fringe character representing a fringe party of angry liberals. Of course he's going to say idiotic shit and pretend Trump is the reincarnation of Lord Voldemort.
I see we're still struggling with the concept that politicians say different things in public and in private.
They're all doing that anyway. No nation wants to be dependent on another.
Not THE point. THE point is how Trump is perceived by world leaders.
Dishonest antagonist, personal rhetoric.
Of course, but that missed the point (yet again). Trump changes the weights (think coefficients of a trade equation) which changes the the degree to which they pursue other options. In other words, if a preferred trading partner starts poisoning the relationship, that will encourage more movement to alternatives.
"the presidency of a misogynist, a climate denier, a fraudster, a conspiracy monger, a racist, a far-right politician who tried to overturn an election result both covertly and by inciting violence. "
sounds pretty fact based to me. I know it sounds bad when you string it all together , but then Trump is a bad man.
Why? because you decided it wasn't? [removed] [✘] seriously everybody should put you on ignore until you learn that other opinions are just a relevant as yours.
Do you believe that Trump as the face and voice for the USA will help or hinder our international relationships?
Yes, George, this is MY seed!
(Further it was not the point per the context.)
“..,so long as they attack Trump.”
Good gawd, man…who, what, where and ultimately why are you defending?
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Norms. Congratulating a leader for winning an election is what normal countries do.
Probably hinder some, and help others, just like any other leader.
Not if we're considering Harvie a world leader, it's not.
Where is the data on that?
Well, in the last week, Trump has had "very good" calls or meetings with:
Mexico:
Canada:
So I'm not sure your "poisoned relationship" theory is gaining much support.
is that the whats da Mattrrhorne?
looks like it to me. when did canada buy it and have it moved?
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It stands out to me, as it was my third little beginners hill, where I was still learning to ski, and ski we did, into a cloud that was a white out blizzard, and I had not ski attire, but a most interesting voyage it was for myself and some hard drinking buddies, but like the Scotts take on Trump, cause it's very accurate. I can see Trumps squad, and any attempting to rationalize the one who breaths lies, as having a never ending excuse extravaganza for the next four years, as they said Trump would be no worse than his first trek, and so the endless defense must commence....I almost feel sorry for they, almost, i did say
What do you expect world leaders to do other than try to make the best out of a shit situation with Trump? Of course they will meet with him. Meeting with Trump does not mean that the relationship has not been poisoned by Trump's irresponsible, extemporaneous, outrageous threats.
Worse, that rhetoric has repercussions beyond Mexico, Canada, and China. All trade partners are (almost certainly) factoring in the reality that Trump is going to try to bully partners and make false, demeaning claims on the world stage ... operating the way he has operated in business. And that does not mean that they were unaware of Trump, it means that they are factoring in how he is behaving NOW even as president-elect. Their actions, their plans, will be even more inclined to deal with a USA that cannot be trusted and that will not even operate in even a semblance of good faith.
In addition, this strategically stupid move by Trump quite likely furthers the view that the USA has elected a fool as PotUS.
Bottom line, there is no point in trying to pretend that Trump's irresponsible, outrageous public threat has not damaged international relationships. One does wonder what motivates people like you to defend Trump at every turn.
Nine years later the world is still waiting.
It is evidence to support the idea that those relationships remain intact, which is something your assertions lack.
Your evidence of that?
"Almost certainly"? Certain to whom? Still struggling with the workings of political grandstanding?
Your evidence of that? No? Just inciting hysteria again?
Of course. The sky is definitely falling. We better find Ducky-daddles and Goosey-poosey and let them know.
Sadly, we don't have to wonder about what motivates people to new chapters of over-reaction every time Trump gets out of bed.
Strawman: I made no suggestion that the relationships were severed.
Another lie. It is obvious that when a PotUS extemporaneously threatens an across-the-board tariff of 25% (and 10% for China) before even engaging said partners in a private discussion, that all trade partners will factor that into their strategies. A logical conclusion based on fact and you deem it hysteria. Your comments are not serious.
A fine example of a feeble, unserious defense of Trump against an obvious situation: "Trump's irresponsible, outrageous public threat has damaged international relationships."
You cannot defend Trump's actions so you try real hard to spin every rational criticism as hysteria. Dishonest and pathetic.
We've been through this before. There is zero logic in your conclusions. This is the point. Logic, reason and objectivity are so far in the rear view mirror it would require the Hubble Telescope to see them.
There is nothing logical about taking a histrionic serial prevaricator at his word. Almost everybody in the world is smart enough to understand that. World leaders are most certainly smart enough to understand that. Assuming they are not smart enough to know better is as illogical as believing him in the first place. If you believe any world leader thinks like you or any other regular person, disabuse yourself of that idea now.
They are all in politics. They all say one thing to the voters and something completely different in private meetings.
You've claimed repeatedly that various international relationships have been "poisoned" (although not fatally, apparently), but you have yet to provide any evidence to support this claim. The best you have managed so far is claiming it is "logical" to project your feelings onto people with whom you have nothing in common.
Another bullshit claim.
Strawman: I have already told you (several times now) that I do not presume that trade partners take Trump at his word. The issue is not the likelihood that Trump would be able to pull this nonsense off, it is the demonstration of how Trump intends to operate when he secures the power of the presidency. It illustrates that he is going to try to bully trade partners and will be using his tired tactic of public humiliation and lying. Key point I have made is that Trump did not even engage these trade partners in private negotiation but rather blasted to the world an extemporaneous, irrational threat.
Start with the private meetings, Jack. Not a difficult concept to grasp.
And you deny the obvious. I doubt that Pew is going to take a survey of this.
Poisoning a relationship does not mean severing a relationship ... it means that Trump has unnecessarily harmed a relationship. The idiom "poison the well" conventionally refers to preemptively discrediting a party with negative, prejudicial rhetoric. It does not mean that one kills the party.
I don't think you have any idea how bullying actually works. People actually have to believe you can and will do the thing you're threatening to do.
Not that it matters. This is international trade, it's not middle school.
You still haven't provided any evidence.
Or are we sticking with this ridiculous idea that since you would feel a certain way, other people must also feel that way. Ignoring that those people are smart, savvy and tough enough to become world leaders in completely foreign cultures and you have less in common with them than you do Taylor Swift.
Jack, you are so far off the edge in terms of feeble arguments I wonder how you can even pen this crap. I gave you the definition of bullying days ago (" a person who habitually seeks to harm or intimidate those whom they perceive as vulnerable."). There is absolutely no requirement that the intended victim(s) be actually intimidated for someone to engage in bullying. The concept is solely a function of what the bully does; not how the intended victims react.
Not once have I suggested that. You are just tossing out one feeble dishonest jab after another in lieu of an actual argument.
Gotta love the Scot’s.
I told my kids we were scottish when they were very young. they had a plausible last name and 2 of them were blonde and fair skinned and I didn't feel like boring them with my heinz 57 heritage. I finally spilled the beans because as soon as the sun hits my second son all my paternal grandmother's italian shows up on him. so much so we used to call him juan when he was a kid.
I come from the whitest background ever but I tan very easily where the rest of my family sizzle. Even my own children burn
middle son turns chocolate as soon as the sun hits him. fortunately he looks like me ...
we gave all our kids scotch/irish first names because of my last name.
The daughter has an Irish first name with a Spanish middle name. The boy has an all around American name
Trump isn’t popular in Scotland with his battles about his golf courses there.
trump also has a problem remembering all his strokes ...
I believe that in Scotland Trump is known as a cockwobble.
wee donny shanker ...