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'Absolute Insanity!' MSNBC's Morning Joe Rips Republicans for Trying to Take Elections Away From Voters

  
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By:   Travis Gettys (The New Civil Rights Movement)

'Absolute Insanity!' MSNBC's Morning Joe Rips Republicans for Trying to Take Elections Away From Voters
MSNBC's Joe Scarborough reacted to the news that nearly half of Republicans say it would have been appropriate for state legislatures to overturn Donald Trump's election loss. A recent poll found 46 percent of Republicans would support a substantial departure from democratic norms to keep their party in power, which GOP-led state legislatures are trying …

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MSNBC's Joe Scarborough reacted to the news that nearly half of Republicans say it would have been appropriate for state legislatures to overturn Donald Trump's election loss.

A recent poll found 46 percent of Republicans would support a substantial departure from democratic norms to keep their party in power, which GOP-led state legislatures are trying to codify into law, and the "Morning Joe" host was stunned.

"It's absolute insanity that we're talking about it in the greatest country in the world," Scarborough said. "But there are actually people who are talking about that, and want to depart from 240 years of American exceptionalism. It's crazy."

Trump's election lies undermined Republican trust in democracy, despite all evidence showing last year's vote was the most secure in history.

"I voted in Florida this past year," Scarborough said. "It was, without a doubt, the most efficient election I've ever seen in my life. I'm a politician — it's like once a politician, always a politician — [on] Election Day, I nervously go and go from one precinct to another, and I just love to see it, I love to see how many people are there, how long the lines are — ghost towns everywhere, because everybody had already voted. You could literally go up and every precinct I went to, you could go up and just vote, and I sat there going, 'My gosh, this is extraordinary how efficient Florida is, we knew who the winner was, even though the networks didn't call it. We knew the winners by 8:00, 9:00 at night, and yet the legislature and governor feels a need we must reform our election system."

"That's like Steve Jobs, a year after the iPhone, 'I must reform the iPhone,'" he added.


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Trout Giggles
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1  seeder  Trout Giggles    3 years ago
A recent poll found 46 percent of Republicans would support a substantial departure from democratic norms to keep their party in power, which GOP-led state legislatures are trying to codify into law, and the "Morning Joe" host was stunned.

Emphasis mine

 
 
 
Hallux
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1.1  Hallux  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    3 years ago

Don't you know that Joe has been pussy-whipped by Mika into becoming a RINO. @!@

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    3 years ago

This is one of the reasons why I do not agree with working for bipartisanship with them. 

Bipartisanship will end up normalizing all the crap the Republicans pull. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @2    3 years ago

Bipartisan is the only way to go. You have radical ideas and ideologies on both sides and somewhere in between would mellow out both extremes. You act as though working for bipartisanship is only going to be the radical ideas of the GOP and if that were the case, I would be more worried about the fact that if that happens, it means the democrats gave up and let them have their way. Is THAT what you are afraid of? Sure sounds like it.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1    3 years ago

But with the gqp it's my way or no way.  So excuse me for calling bullshit on your 'bipartisan is the only way to go' when the gqp/repukes refuse to COMPROMISE ON ANYTHING A DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT PROPOSES - ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING!

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.1    3 years ago

give those assholes what they want and they'll still vote against it. it's been that way for 13 years.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.1    3 years ago
So excuse me for calling bullshit on your 'bipartisan is the only way to go' when the gqp/repukes refuse to COMPROMISE ON ANYTHING A DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT PROPOSES

Your comment makes absolutely no sense. If the dems can't get them to the table, that is a failure on their part. Also, if no discussion or talks of compromise takes place, whatever the subject, is dead on arrival. And if it were really imperative to the well being of the country, you can bet they'd both jump on. Problem seems to be pet projects and shoving shit down the throats of the citizenry for "see what we did" self aggrandizing. Like a recent discussion about voter id. There was other shit in there that the GOP wasn't about to fall for and therefore not a single one voted in favor........and some people insist on using that against them as hypocritical when indeed they were paying attention and not opening the door for the fox to infiltrate the henhouse.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.3    3 years ago

It makes perfect sense.  Repukes won't compromise with Democrats.  Fuck 'em!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.5  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.3    3 years ago

But what if they keep trying to compromise with them until eventually it's all watered down, republican bullshit and the repubs STILL won't come to the table?

I'm really starting to think that the repubs will never compromise with the dems because they want to make the dems "cry" and then point at them and say "See what a bunch of cry babies they are?"

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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2.1.6  Thrawn 31  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1    3 years ago

And if the GOP had seriously engaged in an actual bipartisan effort in the last 10 years I would agree with you. But we haven’t seen anything serious from them in at least that long. Look at the last relief package, you do t go in offering less than 1/3 of what the other party is looking for if you are serious. 

The ACA is another great example, the Dems watered that motherfucker down like nobody’s business for republicans, Boehner even commented that they got 98% of what they wanted (pretty sure that was the ACA), and I. The end I think it was only 1 republican voted for it. That kinda shit sends a very clear message that your party has NO interest in bipartisanship and just dangle the idea in an effort to delay. But there are 2 Dems dumb enough to still fall for it.

 
 
 
evilone
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2.1.7  evilone  replied to  Thrawn 31 @2.1.6    3 years ago
But there are 2 Dems dumb enough to still fall for it.

Those 2 aren't falling for shit. They are Dems in conservative states and going too far to the left will get them primaried at best. At worst the Reps turn those seats. Either way they lose so no... they know how to play the game.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.8  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  evilone @2.1.7    3 years ago

Joe Manchin is a good example

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Thrawn 31 @2.1.6    3 years ago
"And if the GOP had seriously engaged in an actual bipartisan effort in the last 10 years I would agree with you. But we haven’t seen anything serious from them in at least that long. Look at the last relief package, you do t go in offering less than 1/3 of what the other party is looking for if you are serious.  The ACA is another great example, the Dems watered that motherfucker down like nobody’s business for republicans, Boehner even commented that they got 98% of what they wanted (pretty sure that was the ACA), and I. The end I think it was only 1 republican voted for it. That kinda shit sends a very clear message that your party has NO interest in bipartisanship and just dangle the idea in an effort to delay. But there are 2 Dems dumb enough to still fall for it."

THANK YOU!

The TRUTH!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.10  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.5    3 years ago
But what if they keep trying to compromise with them until eventually it's all watered down, republican bullshit and the repubs STILL won't come to the table? I'm really starting to think that the repubs will never compromise with the dems because they want to make the dems "cry" and then point at them and say "See what a bunch of cry babies they are?"

Well this should rain on that parade........And I am glad this worked out. For you  and JR

"President Biden and a group of centrist senators agreed to a roughly $1 trillion infrastructure plan, securing a long-sought bipartisan deal on overhauling the nation’s transportation, water and broadband infrastructure that lawmakers and the White House will now attempt to shepherd through a closely-divided Capitol Hill.

“We had a really good meeting and to answer the direct question, we have a deal,” Mr. Biden told reporters at the White House. “We’ve all agreed that none of us got what we all would have wanted.”

“I clearly didn’t get all I wanted. They gave more than I think they were maybe inclined to give in the first place,” he added."

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.11  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.10    3 years ago

Well, good. I'm glad to see bipart working somewhere

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.12  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.11    3 years ago

And then you get shit like this that tells you even though it was good, it was bad..........to some twits.......

"Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Thursday criticized an all-white group of senators who reached a bipartisan deal on infrastructure legislation, pointing out the group's lack of diversity and arguing it excluded marginalized communities.

"The diversity of this 'bipartisan coalition' pretty perfectly conveys which communities get centered and which get left behind when leaders prioritize bipartisan dealmaking over inclusive lawmaking (which prioritizes delivering the most impact possible for the most people)," the New York Democrat tweeted alongside a photo of the group of lawmakers with President Joe Biden outside the White House on Thursday.

"This is why a bipartisan [package] alone isn't acceptable," Ocasio-Cortez went on to say. "The exclusion & denial of our communities is what DC bipartisan deals require. That's how you get GOP on board: don't do much/any for the working class & low income, or women, or poc communities, or unions, etc. We must do more."

Gotta have something to be offended by and create angst no matter what I guess. Plus the extra 15 minutes of fame this week...................

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.13  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.12    3 years ago

She'll grow up someday. Hopefully

I really don't spend a lot of time on AOC since she's not my rep

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.14  JBB  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.13    3 years ago

Chances are people never heard of yours or Jim's Representative in Congress. Who has not heard of AOC? In national politics that means she is a lot smarter than your reps...

We love her in The Bronx. That's what matters.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.15  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.12    3 years ago

I would worry a lot more about the big olde ugly dumbasses MGT and Bobert in your own jaundiced eye instead of the beautiful young Congresswoman from the Bronx...AOC!

A party of Louis Gohmert has no room to talk.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.17  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  JBB @2.1.14    3 years ago

You're right. People don't know who Rick Crawford is because he never does anything

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @2    3 years ago

Damn, John! You're making me defend Jim below.

I think bipartisanship is the only way, also. The Democrats did compromise on the Voter ID bill which the Repubs have been yammering about over the last 20 years and still it wasn't good enough for them

 
 
 
Veronica
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2.2.1  Veronica  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2    3 years ago
bipartisanship is the only way,

This will work only if SANE people are elected.  Ones who are actually looking out for the betterment of the country & it's people, not their pockets and their special interests.  Lately I see that is completely lacking in our governments (federal & state).

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.2  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Veronica @2.2.1    3 years ago

And Veronica hits it out of the park!

If we could get sane people to actually run...

 
 
 
Veronica
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2.2.3  Veronica  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2.2    3 years ago
If we could get sane people to actually run...

I know - talk about slim pickins

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2    3 years ago

I would make some bipartisan deals without saying I am embracing bi-partisanship.  An embrace of bi-partisanship at this point will just make the assholes think they have won.  We have seen this movie before. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.5  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.4    3 years ago

I get what you're saying...bait and switch or something like that. It could work. But so what if they feel like they won? It's about the American people and winning for them

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2.3  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JohnRussell @2    3 years ago

How best to describe the modern American version of bipartisanship …. hmmmm

384

 
 
 
JBB
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2.3.1  JBB  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.3    3 years ago

That is it! Exactly the gop's go-to dirty trick...

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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3  Paula Bartholomew    3 years ago

Have the R's considered with their attempts at voter suppression that it includes their own base(s)?  They will alienate their own so much that they will vote against them once they are able to vote.

 
 
 
JBB
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4  JBB    3 years ago

This thang just shows how dishonest the damn gop is!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5  seeder  Trout Giggles    3 years ago

Here's a good question for the conservatives/republican/right wing members of NT:

What would it take for you to come to the table and play nice with the Democrats? What are you willing to compromise on? What do you want the Democrats to compromise on. I've admitted that I think only bipar is the way to go and so has Just Jim. But what about the rest of you? 

Pick any subject: Voter rights, infrastructure, health care, Jan 6 commission...anything you like

p.s. only serious discussion will be considered. Maybe a bit late in the game but here is a Red Box Rule for this thread: No trolling, no taunting, no off-topic, and no meta.

 
 
 
JBB
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5.1  JBB  replied to  Trout Giggles @5    3 years ago

It is like Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown, every time, at the very last moment. Every proposed compromise is just a fade, a dirty trick...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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6  Buzz of the Orient    3 years ago

It's kind of amusing that Americans crticize a country where the people can't vote while doing their damndest to prevent Americans from voting.  The interesting thing is, which nation is moving forward faster...infrastructure, eradication of poverty, containment of the virus, booming economy....

 
 

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