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Trump Plans to Sue Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg, Twitter's Jack Dorsey After Ban - Bloomberg

  
Via:  Devangelical  •  4 years ago  •  44 comments

By:   Naomi Nix (Bloomberg. com)

Trump Plans to Sue Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg, Twitter's Jack Dorsey After Ban - Bloomberg
Former President Donald Trump sued Facebook Inc., Twitter Inc., Alphabet Inc.'s Google and their chief executives, raising the stakes in his battle against social media giants who have blocked him.

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gee, I thought mango unchained was going to have his own social media company up and running by now. I guess that's probably happening in 2 weeks too. 


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Former President Donald Trump sued Facebook Inc., Twitter Inc., Alphabet Inc.'s Google and their chief executives, raising the stakes in his battle against social media giants who have blocked him.

Billing the effort during a Wednesday press conference as a move to defend First Amendment rights, Trump filed three separate class-action lawsuits in federal court in Florida against the tech giants and Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg, Twitter's Jack Dorsey and Google's Sundar Pichai.

The lawsuits seek court orders to restore his social-media accounts, along with punitive damages, to ensure other users can't be banned or flagged by the tech giants. The legal team is being led by John P. Coale, a trial attorney involved in lawsuits against big tobacco companies.

"We're going to hold big tech very accountable," Trump said during the press conference at his Trump National Golf Club Bedminster in New Jersey. "If they can do it to me, they can do it to anyone."

Twitter permanently banned Trump in January for his role in stoking the mob that attacked the U.S. Capitol Jan. 6 in a deadly riot to stop the counting of Electoral College votes for President Joe Biden. Facebook last month said Trump would remain suspended from its networks for at least two years, with the possibility of being reinstated in 2023 if risk to public safety has subsided.

YouTube, Google's giant video service, also froze Trump's account following the Jan. 6 riot. The former president's videos are still accessible, but he isn't permitted to post new videos. Susan Wojcicki, YouTube's chief executive, has said that the company will reverse its policy when it decides that the "risk of violence has decreased," without providing details.

Facebook, Google and Twitter declined to comment on the suits, which were criticized by tech-funded advocacy groups. NetChoice, whose members include Amazon and other tech companies, said the action shows a "deliberate misunderstanding of the First Amendment" and is without merit.

"President Trump has no case," NetChoice CEO Steve DelBianco said in a release. "The First Amendment is designed to protect the media from the President, not the other way around."

Trump is seeking to overturn a federal law that shields internet companies from liability for content posted by users. Section 230 of the 1996 Communications Decency Act protects social media platforms from lawsuits accusing them of unfairly removing posts or accounts, among other legal challenges. The First Amendment prohibits the government from forcing tech companies to leave up or take down certain categories of posts.

In the lawsuits, Trump argues the liability protections under Section 230 means social media companies should be considered government actors that can be sued.

The banishment of Trump by major tech platforms reignited Republican calls to revoke the legal shield, arguing that it has enabled social media platforms such as Facebook and Twitter to censor conservative viewpoints.

The lawsuits aren't the first time Trump has taken aim at Section 230. While in office, he tried to get Congress to repeal Section 230 by threatening to veto a Defense Department spending bill. Democrats have also proposed bills to curtail the legal shield to encourage tech companies to more aggressively rid their platforms of bigotry, abuse, and harassment.

Tech companies have largely resisted changes to the law, fearing that the proliferation of lawsuits will force them to clamp down on the free-flowing user-generated content. However, both Zuckerberg and Dorsey have expressed openness in recent months to Section 230 reforms.

Without access to the broad reach afforded by social media giants, Trump has struggled to maintain an online presence. He shut down his blog-like "From the Desk of Donald J. Trump," though he frequently sends out several press statements a day -- often targeting fellow Republicans he believes are insufficiently loyal.

Trump recently stepped up his public activity by restarting rallies and making a trip to the southern U.S. border last week to criticize Biden's immigration policies. He's backing candidates in the 2022 midterm elections and actively opposing others. He has also held out the prospect of running again for president in 2024.

The former president has been teasing that he'll launch a new platform that can't remove him. He said on Dave Rubin's "Rubin Report" podcast on June 25 that "there's a lot of platforms out there, that's what we're looking at, getting the right platform, a perfect platform, and I think you'll see something fairly soon."

During his presidency, Trump used Twitter for everything from insulting rivals to major policy announcements, and he relied on Facebook especially to raise money from small-dollar donors.

A Florida law prohibiting social media platforms from suspending the accounts of political candidates was blocked by a federal judge earlier this month. Likening the state's law to "burning the house to roast a pig," U.S. District Judge Robert Hinkle in Tallahassee said the legislation passed by a Republican legislature and a priority of Governor Ron DeSantis, violates the companies' free speech rights.

The case is Trump et al v Twitter Inc et al, 21-cv-22441, U.S. District Court, Southern District of Florida (Miami).

— With assistance by Mark Bergen, and Nico Grant

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devangelical
Professor Principal
1  seeder  devangelical    4 years ago

oh look, another legal fund raising scam perpetrated on his more than willing and gullible sycophants.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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1.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  devangelical @1    4 years ago

they deserve to lose their damn mo9ney

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  igknorantzrulz @1.1    4 years ago

don't forget to vote this seed up. I'm getting buried by trumpsters on the front page.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.3  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    4 years ago

thank you for your patriotism.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2  Trout Giggles    4 years ago
gee, I thought mango unchained was going to have his own social media company up and running by now. I guess that's probably happening in 2 weeks too. 

"It will be the bigliest most beautifullest social media platform EVER! YUGER than Face Book and Twitter put together!"

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @2    4 years ago

those social media muzzles are killing him, financially. bwah ha ha ha, loser!

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
3  Kavika     4 years ago

The mostest, bigly, covfefe social network ever will be up and running in two weeks. 

Right along with his infrastructure and medical/health care plans.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.1  Ender  replied to  Kavika @3    4 years ago

Let's see, coming on five years every two weeks the republicans had some great healthcare plan...

Now it is always some new social media platform...

They have gone from, try to silence me I will make my own to I will sue to get back with you all.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    4 years ago

start the video at the 1:00 mark and watch trump babble. he's off the teleprompter. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.2  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @4    4 years ago

may I quote Donald Trump

"when I said it , it was like a weapon went off. A major weapon. I won't use the word weapon. "

If Biden said that today Fox News would be talking about it for weeks. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.1    4 years ago

He did. I think he was alluding to the possibility of nuking China if he gets back in office. jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.2    4 years ago

Oh ferfucksakes and Jesus H Christ!

Some of us would like to leave Planet Earth intact for our grandchildren!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.2.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.2.3    4 years ago

I was just teasing about nuking China.  I think. Who knows what the hell Trump was talking about when he mentioned "nuclear"? He was babbling. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.2.5  seeder  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.4    4 years ago

that would really show iskanka and all her registered chinese trademarks!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.2.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.4    4 years ago

ok...whew!

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
5  Gsquared    4 years ago

When Trump loses his lawsuit... not "if", "when"... the winning defendants would be able to go after him to recoup their costs, and possibly, their attorneys' fees.  

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @5    4 years ago

gee, you'd think such a successful businessman would have a better grasp of the first amendment. /s

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
5.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  devangelical @5.1    4 years ago

If the lawsuit is not instantly dismissed, the defendants' lawyers will be able to take Trump's deposition and ask him all about his activities regarding January 6th.  That would be fun.  Regardless, the lawsuit will be dismissed.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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5.2  pat wilson  replied to  Gsquared @5    4 years ago

How did he find lawyers to work for him ? They must not care about getting paid.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  pat wilson @5.2    4 years ago

Maybe they're hacks who've been trying to pass the bar for the last 10 years

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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5.3  Thrawn 31  replied to  Gsquared @5    4 years ago

His problem is that he is used to suing people who can’t fight back. You know, the blue collar workers that don’t have daddy’s money to fight it out in court.

Apparently he doesn’t realize that all of these companies are far more massive and wealthier than his, and several of these individuals can buy his entire life 10+ times over. He is not intimidating and he can’t wait them out, so his usual tactics will fail laughably.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
7  Ender    4 years ago

Whah! Whaaa!  They took my twitter. I am going to sue.

My God what a big baby. He is just pissed he is not the center of attention.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
8  Ender    4 years ago

If they can do it to me, they can do it to anyone....

Of course they can you complete jackass. It is a private company.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
9  Ender    4 years ago

So let me get this straight. According to some a company has the ability to deny gay people service. Gets to pick and choose its clientele. Then donald gets suspended and the faithful all jump up and down and say a company cannot discriminate against him. Meanwhile still keeping their idea of every other company being able to discriminate.

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Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
9.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @9    4 years ago

You have to ignore the hypocrisy. It's mindboggling

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
9.1.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.1    4 years ago

that's where that whole imperial presidency comes in so handy for them. the constitution or the 10 commandments don't apply to them when they're engaged in a holy war against the libs.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
9.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @9.1.1    4 years ago

I think the trumpettes want an Il Duce, Mein Fureher, or a an El Presidente

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
9.2  Gsquared  replied to  Ender @9    4 years ago

All they have to do is say the two magical words... "religious freedom".  

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
10  Thrawn 31    4 years ago

“Raising the stakes” is a rather strong way of putting it. These suits have already failed considering the law, SCOTUS precedent, and the Constitution are all lined up against them. Like always with Trump this is all for show and has no teeth.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
10.1  Ender  replied to  Thrawn 31 @10    4 years ago

What worries me was McConnell stacking the courts for the last four years.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
10.1.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Ender @10.1    4 years ago

Eh, not me so much. I would be astounded if they started ruling that corporations cannot enforce their policies on their own property.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
10.1.2  Ender  replied to  Thrawn 31 @10.1.1    4 years ago

I am gonna have faith in ya and what ya say.   Haha

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
11  JBB    4 years ago

A free press means private media controls content.

The government cannot force private companies to give a voice to any content they disagree with, much less hate speech, disinformation or harmful foreign propaganda.

This is 5th Grade Social Studies material here folks!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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11.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JBB @11    4 years ago

In Canada, the courts can order in view of trivial claims or the likelihood of non-payment of court costs in the event of a plaintiff losing his case that the plaintiff must post a bond with the court to guarantee payment of costs including defendants' costs in the event the plaintiff loses.  Trump has already been accused of stiffing rally sites and musicians for use of their music, besides his history of stiffing contractors on his realty projects.  I think the defendants in this case should make that demand if American law permits it. 

If as expected, this claim gets laughed out of the lower courts and appeals reach the SCOTUS it will be interesting to see how a Trump-stacked SCOTUS will deal with it.

 
 

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