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'Red Sea moment': Johnson likens himself to Moses, tells Christian nationalists God paved his path to speaker - Alternet.org

  
Via:  Gsquared  •  5 months ago  •  133 comments

By:   David Badash (Alternet. org)

'Red Sea moment': Johnson likens himself to Moses, tells Christian nationalists God paved his path to speaker - Alternet.org
Mike Johnson, delivering the keynote address to a far-right Christian nationalist group Tuesday, likened himself to Moses and declared God had charted his path to become the Republican Speaker of the House, after telling him in his prayers to prepare. Speaker Johnson, a Christian nationalist who fals...

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Mike Johnson, delivering the keynote address to a far-right Christian nationalist group Tuesday, likened himself to Moses and declared God had charted his path to become the Republican Speaker of the House, after telling him in his prayers to prepare.

Speaker Johnson, a Christian nationalist who falsely claims the Constitution's separation of church and state is a "misnomer" and has declared the United States is not democracy but a "biblical" republic, is an attorney who once worked for a far-right organization that has since been designated an anti-LGBTQ extremist group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Johnson was the lead sponsor last year of a federal "Don't Say Gay" bill and has bragged that he and his teenaged son are accountability partners in a no-porn pledge that includes installation of monitoring software on all their devices.

"I'll tell you a secret since the media is not here," Speaker Johnson said at the National Association of Christian Lawmakers (NACL) Gala (video below), where he was honored with their American Patriot Award for Christian Honor and Courage, as Right Wing Watch reported.

"Thank you for not allowing the media in, I'll tell you a secret because they wanted to come because they wanted to, you know, take my comments out of context as they've been doing with with great joy for the last few weeks," Johnson charged, not specifying which of his remarks he believes have been taken out of context.

"The Lord impressed upon my heart a few weeks before this happened, that something was going to occur," Johnson continued. "And the Lord very specifically told me in my prayers to prepare, but to wait. 'Prepare for what?' I said to the Lord. You know, I had this sense that we were going to come to a Red Sea moment in our Republican conference and the country at large."

"And look, I'm a Southern Baptist, I don't want to get too spooky on you. Okay, but you know, you know okay," he continued. "All right. But you know, the Lord speaks to your heart. And He had been speaking to me about this and the Lord told me very clearly to prepare and be ready. Be ready for what? Okay, I don't know. We're coming to a Red Sea moment. 'What does that mean, Lord?' And then when the Speaker's race happened."

He said, "the Lord began to wake me up through this three-week process we're in in the middle of night and to speak to me and to write things down plans and procedures and ideas on how we could pull the conference together."

"Now at the time I assumed the Lord is going to choose a new Moses. And oh, thank you the Lord. Lord, you're gonna allow me to be Aaron to Moses," Johnson told the attendees.

Johnson reminded his audience of the Speaker's debacle, going down the line of friends who he tried to help become Speaker, acknowledging that all of them failed.

He continued, explaining that "at the end, when it came to the end, the Lord said, 'Now step forward.' 'Me? I'm supposed to be Aaron.' Now the Lord said, 'Step forward.' Psalm 77 speaks of the Exodus in the 14th chapter of Exodus and it says, 'Only God saw the path through the roiling sea, we could not see it, men could not see it.' And I believe deep in my heart, is my core conviction, that God wants us to seek Him for the path through the roiling sea."

As Right Wing Watch reports, after Johnson's speech, "NACL founder Jason Rapertpresented Johnson with the Honor and Courage award, along with a piece of a destroyed Ten Commandments monument that Rapert had placed in front of the Arkansas state capitol in 2017."

"'It's very obvious to see, you're one of us,' Rapert told Johnson."

Rolling Stone adds that Johnson's speech Tuesday is "just the latest evidence that the politician who is now second in line for the presidency views himself as on a divine mission."

Watch the video of Speaker Johnson below or at this link.


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Gsquared
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1  seeder  Gsquared    5 months ago

Second in line to be President talks to God who awakens him during the middle of the night for their chats.

He claims to be a Christian, but if he is supposed to be Aaron or Moses, wouldn't that make him Jewish?

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @1    5 months ago

nah, he's just another unamerican christo-fascist and dominionist...

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.2  cjcold  replied to  Gsquared @1    5 months ago

Anybody who claims to have conversations with "god" is insane.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.2.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  cjcold @1.2    5 months ago

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Gordy327
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1.2.2  Gordy327  replied to  cjcold @1.2    5 months ago

He sure sounds insane. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Gordy327 @1.2.2    5 months ago

He's fucking nuts.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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1.2.4  Gordy327  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.3    5 months ago

That is an understatement. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  Gordy327 @1.2.4    5 months ago

I just saw something about yet another gop official involved in a sex scandal while preaching family values - the chair of the Florida republican party, Christian Ziegler, is being accused of rape by the woman he and his wife sometimes have sex with.

He's being called 'a paragon of conservative virtue by republicans/alleged conservatives.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.5    5 months ago

When asked to resign, "He cited trump values (oxymoron) as new republican standard"

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.7  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.6    5 months ago

whataboutism is their first reflex ...

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.8  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @1.2.7    5 months ago

... then deflection.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.9  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @1.2.8    5 months ago

projection...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.10  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @1.2    5 months ago

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Buzz of the Orient
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1.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gsquared @1    5 months ago

When do you think the crucifixions will start.  Besides the extent of gun violence and extent of homelessness, it would be another reason why I can't understand why so many migrants want to come to the USA.  Wait a second, maybe that would be an intended method to limit them. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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1.3.1  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.3    5 months ago

It's more likely they will be burning people at the stake.  Crucifixion was a Roman form of punishment.  Christians liked to burn heretics, apostates and non-believers.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.3.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gsquared @1.3.1    5 months ago

Ah yes, you're right.  I guess i was confused by America's Ku Klux Klan with their burning crosses.   But didn't they drown witches in Salem?

 
 
 
Gsquared
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1.3.3  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.3.2    5 months ago

I thought the witches got hanged.  Wasn't there a water test to determine if they were really witches?  Something to research in my spare time.

 
 
 
JBB
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1.3.4  JBB  replied to  Gsquared @1.3.3    5 months ago

Yes, suspected witches were weighted with stones and sank in a river or pond. If they lived they were obviously witches and would be hanged. If they died they were declared to be innocent corpses...

 
 
 
Gsquared
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1.3.5  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  JBB @1.3.4    5 months ago

That makes sense.  Who said the Salem witch hunters weren't reasonable.

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.3.6  Krishna  replied to  Gsquared @1.3.1    5 months ago

It's more likely they will be burning people at the stake.  Crucifixion was a Roman form of punishment.  Christians liked to burn heretics, apostates and non-believers.

During the recent attack on Israel (October 7th) some of the terrorists took babies and burnt then to death in ovens in kitchens of the Kibbutz (and made their parents watch before torturing the parents then murdering them).

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.3.7  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JBB @1.3.4    5 months ago

I'm surprised Hamas hasn't thought of that yet.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.3.8  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @1.3.6    5 months ago

Don't forget the gouging out of their eyes, the slicing off of their breasts and cutting open pregnant women and stabbing the fetuses.  The UN won't talk about that, but the JOOZ.....

 
 
 
Gsquared
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1.3.9  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Krishna @1.3.6    5 months ago

That's sickening.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.3.10  TᵢG  replied to  Gsquared @1.3.3    5 months ago

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.3.11  Krishna  replied to  Gsquared @1.3.9    5 months ago
That's sickening.

Definitely.

And on another level, while not as horrendous as that, I find it sickening that most American media has not mentioned it-- or when mentioned they leave out relevant facts.

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.3.12  Krishna  replied to  Gsquared @1.3.9    5 months ago
That's sickening.

The Israelis and Hamas have been involved on other military conflicts. But the Israeli response to Hamas' aggression has never been as strong as it is this time.

(Now you know why).

 
 
 
Kavika
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2  Kavika     5 months ago
He claims to be a Christian, but if he is supposed to be Aaron or Moses, wouldn't that make him Jewish?

I don't think so, G. I believe that it makes him part of the secret race known as the Aryan Race. I'll have to confirm that with one of our NT members who belongs to that secret race of Aryans. 

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1  JBB  replied to  Kavika @2    5 months ago

I have noticed a rightwing member admires these mythical Aryans. That he identifies with them. Some nonsense about racial superiority...

Purity? 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.2  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Kavika @2    5 months ago

Well, if he's Aaron or Moses he is definitely not "Aryan".

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.2.1  Krishna  replied to  Gsquared @2.2    5 months ago
Well, if he's Aaron or Moses he is definitely not "Aryan".

Ironically, two ancient things were appropriated by Hitler:

1 . The Swastika ,which is a very positive ancient symbol used by various ancient indigenous peoples in different parts of the world. (For example,by Hindus as well as some American Indian tribes. Also by Falun Dafa and of other groups-- the Swastika was a very positive symbol).

Hindu Temple, Rajasthan State India :

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Not only is it a a graphic symbol...but its also an actual  Yoga pose called "Swastikasana": or "Auspicious Pose".

2. Aryan: The original meaning of the word is not widely known today. In more modern times it was appropriated by the Nazis to mean a "superior race',  "The White Race". But the original meaning is different-- and in fact some would say that the original Aryans were "Brown-skinned people"-- not "Whites".  It meant peoples from Northern India and Persia!

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.2.2  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Krishna @2.2.1    5 months ago

From the Holocaust Encyclopedia of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum:

Origins Of The Term    Aryan

Nineteenth-century European scholars used the term    Aryan    to identify the Indo-European or Indo-Germanic peoples who settled throughout India, Persia (Iran), and Europe thousands of years earlier. The classification originally described the similarities between most European languages, as well as Sanskrit and Persian (Farsi). At the same time, European scholars also identified Jews and Arabs as Semites to describe the similarities between Hebrew, Arabic, and other related languages. Later, this linguistic category was reinterpreted incorrectly as referring to ethnicity or race. Writers like    the French racial theoris   t Arthur Gobineau (1816-1882) specifically used the term    Aryan    as a racial category. They also posited that Aryans were superior to other peoples. This racial use of the term promoted a widespread, but false concept of the existence of an "Aryan race." 

Use In Nazi Germany

In the early twentieth century, scholars and many others continued to use the term    Aryan      as a racial grouping of peoples, even though the original definition was based on the study of language structure. Some thinkers, such as Houston Stewart Chamberlain (1855-1927), promoted the idea that Aryans were racially and culturally superior to other groups of people. 

in the 1920s,   Adolf Hitler   and the ideologues of National Socialism promoted this concept. They  adapted, manipulated, and radicalized the unfounded belief in the existence of an "Aryan race" and its superiority to fit their   ideology   and policies. Nazi officials used this concept to support  the idea that Germans belonged to a "master race ." Furthermore, they specified that “non-Aryan” applied foremost to Jews, who were identified as the main racial threat to German society. The term was also applied to   Roma   (Gypsies) and   Black people  . 

 

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.2.3  Krishna  replied to  Gsquared @2.2.2    5 months ago
In the early twentieth century, scholars and many others continued to use the term    Aryan      as a racial grouping of peoples, even though the original definition was based on the study of language structure.

One of the more misleading belief some people have is that the term "Semites" refers to a race. But of course it is a linguisitic group (a language family). There are "romance Languages" (Spanish, Italian, French, etc-- Languages mainly based on Latin).etc. Slavic Languages and so on.

"Semitic" refers to a language group-- Aramaic, Arabic, Hebrew, They are all somewhat similar (if you can understand Arabic you can understand much of Hebrew and  Aramaic). Similarly if you understand Italian, , you can understand most Spanish-- same language group)..  

I used to think Aramaic was a "dead language" but a while back I discovered there was a small group ("Assyrians") who spoke it. But they are small in numbers IIRC they live in Iraq).

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.4  JBB  replied to  Krishna @2.2.3    5 months ago

Semitic Semantics? 

You might be surprised how little respect republican politicians have for the vast majority of LIBERAL American Jews...

By the standards of the far rightwingers around here nearly every Jewish Member of Congress must also be antisemitic. 

Oddly, or not, all of the Jewish Senators and nearly all the Jewish Members of Congress are Democrats. No surprise that nationalist MAGA crapola is a fail with Jewish voters.

Been there done that...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.2.4    5 months ago

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JBB
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2.2.6  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.5    5 months ago

Why do you believe American Jewish voters are overwhelming Democrats?

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.2.7  cjcold  replied to  Krishna @2.2.1    5 months ago

The angles point in different directions.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.8  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.2.6    5 months ago

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cjcold
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2.2.9  cjcold  replied to  JBB @2.2.4    5 months ago

Right wingers have no respect for anybody.

Not even themselves.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.10  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.8    5 months ago

Typical...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.2.11  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  cjcold @2.2.7    5 months ago

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.2.12  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @2.2.6    5 months ago

Pew Research Center surveys, including the 2020 study, show that Jews are among the most consistently liberal and Democratic groups in the U.S. population. Seven-in-ten Jewish adults identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party, and half describe their political views as liberal.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.13  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.2.10    5 months ago

typical for Jews to vote Democratic?

Wasn't that your "point"?

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.2.14  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  JBB @2.2.4    5 months ago
You might be surprised how little respect republican politicians have for the vast majority of LIBERAL American Jews...

Not surprised at all.  We hear it from them often.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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2.2.15  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.2.12    5 months ago
Pew Research Center surveys, including the 2020 study, show that Jews are among the most consistently liberal and Democratic groups in the U.S. population. Seven-in-ten Jewish adults identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party, and half describe their political views as liberal.

And we are very proudly so.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.16  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.13    5 months ago

No, typical is that you claim to "not care" about the political views of American Jewish voters while you simultaneously spout declarations regarding them as if you were their official chosen spokesmodel.

Thanks though, for illustrating my point! 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.17  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.2.16    5 months ago

what point did you make again?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.2.18  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @2.2.1    5 months ago

It was also used in ancient China - as seen in this photo I took at the Annual Peony Festival in Luoyang, Henan Province, many years ago.

800

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.19  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.2.16    5 months ago

and actually, I said specifically that I didn't know or care why they vote Democratic Party.

Don't get it twisted.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.20  Texan1211  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.8    5 months ago

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Texan1211
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2.2.21  Texan1211  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.20    5 months ago

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devangelical
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2.2.22  devangelical  replied to  JBB @2.2.4    5 months ago
how little respect republican politicians have for the vast majority of LIBERAL American Jews...

their bible says nothing about saving any american jews for their big end times kneel or die dominionist final solution for civilization and the planet. the end of the road in their "believe in our loving god and do what we say, or risk oppression and death" religious fantasy...

 
 
 
JBB
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3  JBB    5 months ago

Sounds like Johnson suffers vain glorious delusional of grandeur...

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1  devangelical  replied to  JBB @3    5 months ago

he's probably sexually frustrated, now that the media spotlight is on him, and can't slip away with a pre-teen boy from church.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @3.1    5 months ago

Spends lots of time on his knees 'repenting'.

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.1.2  cjcold  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.1    5 months ago

Seems many ex-altar boys have much to regret.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  cjcold @3.1.2    5 months ago

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cjcold
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3.1.4  cjcold  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.3    5 months ago

Catholic fascism annoys me.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  cjcold @3.1.4    5 months ago

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Tessylo
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3.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  cjcold @3.1.4    5 months ago

I don't know what Johnson is, but it's not Catholic.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.7  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.6    5 months ago

he's southern baptist. they're like regular baptists, only their geezus allows them to use him as an excuse when they want to persecute minorities, LGBTQ's, other people's children, and women that want bodily autonomy and their fair share of individual freedom.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.8  bugsy  replied to  devangelical @3.1.7    5 months ago

You do realize that most southern Baptists are black, right?

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.9  JBB  replied to  bugsy @3.1.8    5 months ago

That is FALSE! A LIE! Of about 15 million Southern Baptists only about one million are black and fourteen million are white. The Southern Baptists Convention renounced slavery and segregation in 1995...

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.10  bugsy  replied to  JBB @3.1.9    5 months ago

[(Deleted)]

I concede that I was incorrect with my comment.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.11  JBB  replied to  bugsy @3.1.10    5 months ago

Gotcha!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @3.1.11    5 months ago

Isn't it great when someone admits they are incorrect?  [deleted]

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.13  bugsy  replied to  JBB @3.1.11    5 months ago
Gotcha!

Childish!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  JBB @3.1.9    5 months ago
The Southern Baptists Convention renounced slavery and segregation in 1995...

It took them that long????

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.15  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.14    5 months ago

it took god that long to find one of the people claiming to talk to him that was also listening.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.1.16  Ozzwald  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.14    5 months ago
It took them that long????

It's tough when their holy book supports slavery.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.17  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @3.1.16    5 months ago

Most societies supported slavery at one time.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.18  Vic Eldred  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.17    5 months ago

I'll bet that's not in US history books.

 
 
 
charger 383
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3.1.19  charger 383  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.17    5 months ago

In the long history of the world, not having slaves is a relativity new thing

 
 
 
mocowgirl
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3.1.20  mocowgirl  replied to  charger 383 @3.1.19    5 months ago
In the long history of the world, not having slaves is a relativity new thing

There are still countries where slavery is legal.

Probably a lot of the "cheap" goods that US import were made by slaves.  I had discussions about this topic on NV.  It seemed most people either did not want to know or did not want to discuss it because it might have an adverse effect on their profit sharing or stock market returns.  When having ethics cost money, well the ethics have to go.

I will note that the US prisons for profit could be viewed as forced labor (slavery).

Countries that Still Have Slavery 2023 (worldpopulationreview.com)
  1. India   - 7,989,000
  2. China   - 3,864,000
  3. North Korea   - 2,640,000
  4. Nigeria   - 1,386,000
  5. Iran   - 1,289,000
  6. Indonesia   - 1,220,000
  7. Congo (Democratic Republic of) - 1,045,000
  8. Russia   - 794,000
  9. Philippines   - 784,000
  10. Afghanistan   - 749,000

India has the highest number of slaves in the world. This is partly because India is one of the two most populous countries on Earth and partially because all forms of modern slavery exist in India, including forced child labor, forced marriage, commercial sexual exploitation, bonded labor, and forced recruitment into armed groups.

China, the Earth's most populous country, has the second-highest number of slaves at more than 3.8 million. While China does not display the save diversity of slavery. Other countries with significantly high slave populations are Russia, Nigeria, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Indonesia,   Egypt ,   Myanmar , Iran,   Turkey , and   Sudan . On a continental level,   Asia   has not only the highest overall population but also the highest total number of slaves. However, the total number of slaves is only one way to measure the level of slavery in a country. Consider the following list:

Top 10 Countries with the Highest Prevalence of Modern Slavery (by slaves per 1000 residents) - Global Slavery Index 2018:

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Quiet
3.1.21  mocowgirl  replied to  mocowgirl @3.1.20    5 months ago
When having ethics cost money, well the ethics have to go.

More information on the modern practice of slavery.

Countries that Still Have Slavery 2023 (worldpopulationreview.com)

Government Efforts to Combat Modern Slavery

Many governments and aid organizations have taken steps to raise awareness about   the signs of modern slavery . For instance, the   United Kingdom   passed the Modern Slavery Act 2015, and at least six other   G20 countries   have passed bills aimed at combating slavery in recent years. Additionally, the United Nations has designated December 02 as the   International Day for the Abolition of Slavery .

That said, other organizations are calling for more. A detailed 2020 report released by the   University of   Nottingham   Rights Lab   determined that all 193 United Nations member states have prohibited laws that legalize slavery—however, only half (51%) have laws that specifically prohibit slavery and the slave trade. What's more, only two of 193 have laws that specifically criminalize modern slavery as well as the four slavery-adjacent practices: serfdom; debt bondage; sale, transfer, or inheritance of a bride/wife/widow; or delivery of children for exploitation.
 
 
 
mocowgirl
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3.1.22  mocowgirl  replied to  mocowgirl @3.1.21    5 months ago

Below is a more contemporary list that includes the United States.

The US economy benefits from slave labor within and outside of its borders.

Would the US be an economic super power today within modern slave labor?

Mapped: The countries where modern slavery is most prevalent (axios.com)

Where it stands:   Countries with the highest prevalence of modern slavery — North Korea, Eritrea, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Tajikistan, the United Arab Emirates,   Russia ,   Afghanistan   and Kuwait — share "some political, social, and economic characteristics, including limited protections for civil liberties and human rights," the report notes.

  • The countries with the lowest prevalence were Switzerland, Norway, Denmark, Germany, the Netherlands and Sweden.
  • Nations with the highest number of people living in modern slavery included India,   China , North Korea, Pakistan, Russia, Indonesia, Nigeria, Turkey, Bangladesh, and the United States. Six of those countries are in the G20.

Between the lines:   The majority of modern slavery occurs in lower-middle and upper-middle-income nations, but it's "deeply connected to demand from higher-income countries," the report says.

  • G20 countries import $468 billion of at-risk products annually, according to Walk Free.
  • "The purchasing practices that happen within [wealthier] countries are actually increasing the demand for goods that is fueling exploitation in countries that are sitting at the frontline of global supply chains," says Joudo Larsen.
  • The highest-value at-risk products imported by G20 nations included electronics ($243.6 billion), garments ($147.9 billion), palm oil ($19.7 billion), solar panels ($ 14.8 billion), and textiles ($12.7 billion).
 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.1.23  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.14    5 months ago

reckon it's better late than never, y'all...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4  JohnRussell    5 months ago

I still have faith that most Americans do or will consider Mike Johnson to be an unacceptable religious fanatic. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5  Trout Giggles    5 months ago

I would like to tattoo across his fore head that the USA NOT A BIBLICAL REPUBLIC

I am so sick and tired of his kind

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @5    5 months ago

I'm pretty sure that getting nailed to a cross is those thumpers end goal...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @5.1    5 months ago

Oh, hell, no! They don't want to die! They don't want to sacrifice themselves for their Lord and Savior...the real Jesus....not the orange con man. They would die for him.

Anyway...why do you think they so adamant about keeping their firearms? They are the shoot first and take names later crowd because they will do anything to save their own necks. They would probably sacrifice their families before they would take a bullet

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.1    5 months ago

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.2    5 months ago

He isn't the Messiah no matter what those Christian fakes say

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.1    5 months ago
They would probably sacrifice their families before they would take a bullet

their imaginary friend comes before their own families.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @5.1    5 months ago

What a freakshow.  I was reading about some of the cases he defended as attorney and they're doozies.

One that he didn't defend, but was a friend of, was some other freakshow preaching on family values and caught masturbating near a playground. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.5    5 months ago

I forgot to mention

- caught masturbating in a van near a playground - I believe the freak was arrested - maybe he was caught before nabbing a little kid to molest.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.2    5 months ago

Freaks!  Good Lord, they hold him to no standards whatsoever.  Unfreakingbelieveable.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.2    5 months ago

Thanks for sharing that John.  I love Jordan Klepper.   These freaks are so not self aware, it's unreal.  

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5.1.9  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.5    5 months ago
What a freakshow.  I was reading about some of the cases he defended as attorney and they're doozies.

Do you want defense attorneys to get much more picky about who they will defend?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5.1.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.7    5 months ago

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Gsquared
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5.1.11  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.2    5 months ago

Great video.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.12  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.6    5 months ago
I believe the freak was arrested - maybe he was caught before nabbing a little kid to molest.

maybe he couldn't wait for sunday, school...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.1.13  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.1.9    5 months ago

Reputable people and reputable entities always seek out reputable attorneys...

Judges know. Jurors know. It's how it is!

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
5.1.14  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.1.9    5 months ago

Johnson dedicated his legal career to representing Christian nationalists and theocrats attempting to impose their religious doctrines on the rest of society.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
5.1.15  cjcold  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.1    5 months ago

This liberal centrist would prefer to keep my firearms.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.1.16  Trout Giggles  replied to  cjcold @5.1.15    5 months ago

Same here. My shotgun may come in handy again some day. Great for scaring vultures off your property

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.17  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.6    5 months ago

He was arrested and his fellow freakshow friend Johnson declined to represent him.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Quiet
5.2  mocowgirl  replied to  Trout Giggles @5    5 months ago
I would like to tattoo across his fore head that the USA NOT A BIBLICAL REPUBLIC I am so sick and tired of his kind

To my way of thinking, Johnson and his ilk fall into two camps - the conman and the conned.

Decent people don't need a religion to have ethics and morals. 

Conmen need religion to convince the gullible that they have a mandate to rule.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
6  seeder  Gsquared    5 months ago

800

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
6.1  Split Personality  replied to  Gsquared @6    5 months ago

The Law and Order Party, led by Speaker Johnson, now wishes to only release the J6 tapes if they can blur the faces to protect the individuals shown from being prosecuted by the DOJ?

Besides the fact that that is pretty much how the DoJ already identified and prosecuted many of them,

that just indicates a new level of stupidity by Johnson.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @6.1    5 months ago

meh, he was already complicit in the attempt to obstruct the constitutional mandate to transfer power.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @6.1    5 months ago

I heard about that - and I was in the middle of something else - and it never hit me until I read your comment SP -- I don't believe stupidity is the word.  He's so complicit in the whole goddamned thing it's sickening, this alleged religious 'man'.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
6.1.3  seeder  Gsquared  replied to  Split Personality @6.1    5 months ago

Johnson said he wants to blur the tapes to prevent people from being identified and prosecuted for their criminal misconduct on January 6th.  That was just a day or two after he called the republicans the law and order party.  It's not his stupidity at work here.  It is something far worse, although I believe that the DOJ already has those tapes.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
6.1.4  Split Personality  replied to  Gsquared @6.1.3    5 months ago

Yes, most of the prosecutorial work was generated by those tapes and others.

Over 1,033 arrested so far and 378 completed convictions so far. 

The horses have long left the barn on this one.

Kudos to Mr. Johnson.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.4    5 months ago

The morons provided their own evidence that day.  A lot of the morons posted on social media also.  A lot of the morons were turned in by family members, girl friends or boy friends, husbands or wives.  MORONS.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
8  Krishna    5 months ago

likened himself to Moses and declared God had charted his path to become the Republican Speaker of the House

Well everybody makes a mistake every now and then-- even God! But I have a feeling She may correct that mistake in the near future.  jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif  

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
9  Tacos!    5 months ago

It’s one thing to be super religious. Even in a politician, that’s fine. A messianic complex is a sign of a problem.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
9.1  cjcold  replied to  Tacos! @9    5 months ago

Believing in mythology and superstition is insanity.

Believing in christianty is superstition and insanity.

Jesus never actually existed. Jesus was a construct.

Yet many on this planet are insane.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @9.1    5 months ago

So, how do you justify voting for what you consider insane people?

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
9.1.2  Krishna  replied to  cjcold @9.1    5 months ago
Yet many on this planet are insane.

In my experience, of the insane group-- some are religious and some are not.

And then there's the whole other issue of people who say they don't like any religion-- rather, they are "spiritual"

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
9.1.3  cjcold  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.1    5 months ago

The lessor of the evil.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
9.1.4  cjcold  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.1    5 months ago

Never have and never will.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
9.1.5  Krishna  replied to  cjcold @9.1    5 months ago
Jesus never actually existed.

I'm not familiar with that part of history. Has there ever been any significant evidence that Jesus existed (or that he didn't?).

Mohammed came later-- I think he did exist (?).

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Quiet
9.1.6  mocowgirl  replied to  Krishna @9.1.5    5 months ago
Has there ever been any significant evidence that Jesus existed (or that he didn't?).

Yeshua was a common name back in the day.

A google search might lead you to the information that there was a rabbi named Yeshua that the Jesus figure is probably based on.  

There is zero evidence that a Yahweh exists outside of ancient religious myth.  Likewise with his son, Yeshua, that some people have renamed as Jesus.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Quiet
9.2  mocowgirl  replied to  Tacos! @9    5 months ago
A messianic complex is a sign of a problem.

It only becomes a problem because enough people believe they are a messiah and do their bidding.  Examples:  Jim Jones or the Ayatollah - Religion. Hitler - Political.

Currently, we have a worldwide movement where a large number of people are convinced that men, who say they are women, are women.  This is despite there is absolutely no biological basis for the claim unless we redefine accepted biology differences of male and female.

Do these ill-informed folks have a messianic complex or are they following a messiah?  They are not following science.  They are silencing the biologists and the scientists.

Whether it is religious based propaganda or political propaganda - it is still propaganda.  

It all becomes a problem when enough people follow the Piped Piper to their doom.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
9.2.1  Krishna  replied to  mocowgirl @9.2    5 months ago
Currently, we have a worldwide movement where a large number of people are convinced that men, who say they are women, are women.  This is despite there is absolutely no biological basis for the claim unless we redefine accepted biology differences of male and female.

Monty Python addresses the issue: "I Want to be a Woman"

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Quiet
9.2.2  mocowgirl  replied to  Krishna @9.2.1    5 months ago

Symbolic of his struggle against reality. - Summed it up nicely.

The reality of this is that women are losing their positions in sports and job fairs to men.

It is ironic that many of the people demeaning religious folk for believing in a sky fairy are the same people who believe that men are women

Below is a prime example of a trans woman that some people support being in girl's restrooms and sports.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
9.2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  mocowgirl @9.2    5 months ago

I'm a let live kind of person. But transgender women have no place in women's athletics. That swimmer who won all kinds of meets after she transitioned has since been stripped and the medals given to the woman who came in "second". I applaud that decision

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Quiet
9.2.4  mocowgirl  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.2.3    5 months ago
I'm a let live kind of person.

Me, too.  And I believe that the majority of people are until an issue becomes radicalized by some psychopath/narcissist figure for political or religious gain.

Caitlyn Jenner speaks out against the radical men claiming they are actual women on a regular basis.  I read another Jenner interview in the Daily Mail today.

Caitlyn Jenner slams the 'radical rainbow mafia' in interview with John Cleese and claims 'crazy people' have 'taken over' the LGBT community | Daily Mail Online

Caitlyn Jenner   has slammed the 'radical rainbow mafia' and has claimed that 'crazy people' have 'taken over' the   LGBT   community.

In an interview with   GB News '   John Cleese , Jenner said: 'I mean, take trans people, I think they've taken the   woke   ideology and are just taking it to the max and worse.'

She said she calls these people the 'radical rainbow mafia'. Jenner also claimed that the LGBT community, particularly the trans community, had been 'taken over ... by a small group of highly woke, crazy people'. 

'They're not good for trans people in general, because they're so outspoken and say "trans women are real women" and they're yelling at people, and you're not going to get anywhere like that,' she explained.

She also said social media gave this small group of people a 'big, loud microphone' to voice their controversial opinions, which she believes they do to get famous.

The former Olympic gold-medallist also shared her opinion on trans women competing in women's sports as she said it made trans people look 'selfish' and 'self-indulgent'.

She said for trans women competing in women's sports, it's all about them rather than the women they are beating, making themselves out to be the victim in the situation. 
 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
9.2.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  mocowgirl @9.2.4    5 months ago

My respect for her just went up ten fold

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  mocowgirl @9.2    5 months ago

What the hell are you talking about?  

Transgenders are not the problem you/many are claiming.  This paints targets on the backs of all transgender folks.  I imagine Johnson shares similar views.  He wants to criminalize homosexual behavior and is claiming schools are turning kids gay, or some other such ignorant bullshit.  

That is massive deflection from the evil of Johnson and his kind.  The worst kind of scum.  

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
9.2.7  JBB  replied to  Tessylo @9.2.6    5 months ago

Seven trans boys and girls applied to participate on gender affirmative intermural sports teams in Missouri in 2022...

None are standout athletes so they really do threaten few.

Yet, for those few, this is the defining issue of our times...

I have even heard it called "The End Of Female Athletics"!

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
9.2.8  Krishna  replied to  mocowgirl @9.2    5 months ago
It all becomes a problem when enough people follow the Piped Piper to their doom.

Some people might disagree-- and think that it only becomes a problem when those kind of people stop following that person to their doom. 

When they actually survive-- and some even vote!

(And that too many of them also may reproduce! jrSmiley_5_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
9.2.9  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @9.2.8    5 months ago
Some people might disagree-- and think that it only becomes a problem when those kind of people stop following that person to their doom. 

And then there are The Darwin Awards!

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Quiet
9.2.10  mocowgirl  replied to  JBB @9.2.7    5 months ago
I have even heard it called "The End Of Female Athletics"!

Eventually, it will be as more biological males are allowed to play sports as if they had been transformed into biological females.

I really don't understand why anyone supports this at all.

Trans need their own sports or compete in open categories if they can't compete or won't compete with biological males.  This is the only fair solution that does not discriminate against biological females.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
10  Krishna    5 months ago

The way he said "Red Sea Moment" shows he's living in the past.

If someone like Moses had God part the Red Sea so the Jews could pass through-- in today's world it would look more like this:

256

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Quiet
11  mocowgirl    5 months ago

Denmark just re-instated blasphemy laws.  Wonder when Johnson and his ilk will attempt the same in the US?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
11.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  mocowgirl @11    5 months ago

I suppose if their are a lot of Muslims rioting over people burning Qurans, like in Denmark, progressives here might pass hate speech laws to try and forbid it,  as in Denmark.  

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Quiet
11.1.1  mocowgirl  replied to  Sean Treacy @11.1    5 months ago
I suppose if their are a lot of Muslims rioting over people burning Qurans, like in Denmark, progressives here might pass hate speech laws to try and forbid it, as in Denmark.  

A free nation does not silence anybody.  It is one way to separate the crazies from the craziest.  Without censorship, people freely express their thoughts on the internet on a regular basis.  It is up to the security agencies to try to evaluate who is most likely to go on a killing spree or commit assorted atrocities in the near future.  

In the case of Johnson and his ilk, I was referencing the Christians who believe their belief system and its inane rules, promises and predictions should not be mocked and ridiculed.  

It is the Christians that would like to silence people like George Carlin.  I do find it very amusing that Christians promote their religion as all about love, kindness and forgiveness, but then they take joy in saying everyone they dislike will "rot in Hell for eternity".   

Religion is basically evil because it is a pyramid scheme where the men at the top use and abuse the people at the bottom.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
11.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  mocowgirl @11    5 months ago

So basically this law is more or less driven by the Koran burnings.

Muslims need to get a grip and understand that all religions are mocked equally. They are not any more special than any other religion

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Quiet
11.2.1  mocowgirl  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.2    5 months ago
Muslims need to get a grip and understand that all religions are mocked equally. They are not any more special than any other religion

True.

Eventually, their leaders will have to conform like the Christians did by infiltrating secular governments and putting their reps in leadership and judicial systems like what is currently happening in the United States as we see women's rights decrease by small increments in favor of Catholic based laws that ban birth control and funnel billions of taxpayer dollars to the Catholic Church to run charities, schools, hospitals, etc.  This was made legal by GW Bush in 2004 with a stroke of the pen - no government votes and no government oversight.  Every president since Bush has followed suit.  

The Muslims need to educate themselves by watching how the Catholic Church has managed to overturn the separation of church and state in the US without rioting and without raising public alarm.  The ACLU did a token resistance in 2004 and have remained silent ever since.  Why?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
11.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  mocowgirl @11.2.1    5 months ago

Oh hell. I just opened up a can of worms...

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Quiet
11.2.3  mocowgirl  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.2.2    5 months ago
Oh hell. I just opened up a can of worms...

Not at all.

The men, who are Hellbent on achieving power and wealth, spend their time working toward their goals.  The men, in the Catholic Church, controlled the European governments conquered by the Roman Empire for well over a thousand years.  The only world power that comes close to this type of thinking and domination might be the men in Chinese government because I have read that they are future thinking.

I believe they should be recognized for their achievements as they gain their power and wealth, so their power can be resisted before it becomes impossible to do so.

The RCC is smart enough to allow the mouthy Baptists to take the heat for being the religious zealots that are to be feared for changing laws, but the Baptists do not have the numbers or the wealth or the reps in government office to be a real threat to our secular government at this time.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
12  cjcold    5 months ago

Those whom god would destroy he first deprives of reason.

 
 

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