MAGA Republican Pledges "End of Democracy" to Rabid Cheers at CPAC | The New Republic
By: Tori Otten (The New Republic)
"Welcome to the end of democracy. We are here to overthrow it completely"
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Republicans at CPAC 2024 are openly vowing to take down democracy.
Conservative activist Jack Posobiec joyfully hailed the "end of democracy" at the Conservative Political Action Conference, further emphasizing Republicans' apparent desire to completely overthrow America as we know it.
Posobiec, who helped popularize the "Pizzagate" conspiracy theory, appeared at CPAC's opening day on Wednesday. He spoke during a panel moderated by former White House adviser and white supremacist Steve Bannon.
"Welcome to the end of democracy. We are here to overthrow it completely," Posobiec said as the event began.
"We didn't get all the way there on January 6, but we will endeavor to get rid of it and replace it with this, right here," he said, gesturing to the crowd and holding up his fist.
As he spoke, Bannon laughed and said, "Amen!"
Jack Posobiec at CPAC: "Welcome to the end of democracy. We are here to overthrow it completely. We didn't get all the way there on Jan. 6, but we will endeavor to get rid of it."
Trump's Republican Party openly wants to end democracy. We must stop them. pic.twitter.com/UITxEth0im — Republican Accountability (@AccountableGOP) February 22, 2024
Posobiec then said, to cheers from the audience, "All glory is not to government. All glory to God."
Republican primary front-runner Donald Trump has repeatedly indicated he intends to embrace authoritarianism if he is reelected to the White House. Trump has paraphrased Adolf Hitler, floated horrifying and fascistic policy ideas, and joked (so he says) about being a dictator on the first day of his new term.
Trump's closest allies in Congress have also indicated they would be willing to throw out the rulebook for him. Senator J.D. Vance and Representative Elise Stefanik, both reportedly on the shortlist for Trump's running mate, have said they would have carried out a coup on January 6, 2021, to keep Trump in power.
Posobiec's comments, even delivered in a lighthearted tone, are a chilling reminder that Trump and his supporters are not speaking rhetorically. They mean everything they say.
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Today's Republican Party.
To paraphrase the late, great Maya Angelou: When they tell you who they are, believe them.
Do not forgive them Father, for they know what they do.
History will record this as the era of the complete and total degradation of the Republican Party. We can only hope that it doesn't lead to the decimation of the American way of life.
good riddance to maga rubbish...
GOP = groupies of putin
It has fallen to "US" to see that democracy outlives Trump and his MAGAs. No offense, MAGAs, but no we will not follow you; obey you; or longer serve you. Conservatism of old in the U.S. is deceased!
Exactly, CB.
Sane and decent people have had enough, long ago had enough, of the magats and their dear turd leader.
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This should help Jack Smith I'm thinking.
How so?
"Welcome to the end of Democracy. We didn't get all the way there on January 6th, but we will endeavor to get rid of it."
Posobiec is calling for theocracy.
The GOP has lost its mind.
I remember an old article where the writer expressed dismay at how far to the extreme right CPAC went in 2018 compared to 2010.
We are now presumably over the horizon comparing 2024 to 2018
CPAC 2018's extreme message proves the GOP has embraced its far-right fringe (nbcnews.com)
‘What An Embarrassment’: Left and Right Skewer CPAC For Low Attendance At MAGA Dominated Event (mediaite.com)
LOL, I've seen a bigger audience at a city council meeting...
Standing room only here and it's all GOP infighting.
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Is that where they had the 1/6 insurrection pinball machine?
It appears that there is no one left in the gop/gqp with any shred of sanity or decency or dignity.
I really like it when rwnj's go internecine...
They eat their own . . . I bet they taste like shit
They're nucking futs. Long past losing their minds.
I have had it with the GOP/MAGAs. I have watched the evangelicals make complete fools of. . . Jesus' message in the Gospel.
They didn't read the Sermon on the Mount
I'm not sure that's accurate. Low attendance and little in the way of congressmen or representatives showed up. It doesn't sound like a lot of enthusiasm for what they were selling. I'm not really familiar with who puts on CPAC but the light reading about how it's changed over the years indicates to me it's losing the influence it once had. Less serious players seem to be getting involved, possibly because it has gone too far into what some call MAGA territory. The fact that names one would expect to be there from the GOP were not should at least be considered as possible evidence that the GOP has not, collectively, lost its mind.
It seems to me this article was posted to warn of the threat from the extreme right, but it seems to me it does the opposite. The more extreme the message at CPAC gets, the less the serious players get involved with it. I find that encouraging.
Trump is almost certainly going to be the GOP nominee. There is the proof that the GOP has lost its mind.
CPAC is all for Trump. In that critical regard they are representative of the greater GOP mindset. And the religious vote is a highly significant piece of this. One of many ... "Why Evangelicals Went All In on Trump, Again" —
My mistake. I thought we were talking about the CPAC article.
I don't follow the reasoning. How do you reach that conclusion given the lack of anyone of real note other than Trump attending and low participation? I could grant your point had it been otherwise. Since it wasn't. it suggests to me that most GOP members of any real relevance distanced themselves from the event. Even those Republicans that support him, reluctantly or enthusiastically, did not show up. I have to ask myself why.
From the TIME article link:
And the so-called, Evangelical "People of God" love him, because, as they put it, "He does a lot of nice things for us!'
What has become laughable is these "people of God," no longer pay homage to God to do "nice things for them." That is, instead of looking for God and angels to 'attend' their needs. . . Evangelicals are consorting with a demon and a spawn of the Devil.
It's disgusting. Puke-worthy.
And just today a viable anti-Trump candidate struggled to get out of the political 'death-grip' of the Evangelicals. .. . a 'clean' candidate named Nikki Haley and she has been spurned by the people she know and loved in her state—for a 'demon' parading around as a man.
From the Time article (again). . .
I remember back to the 2016 election when evangelicals called candidate Trump their "King Cyrus of Persia" of the Old Testament. King Cyrus was a good man/king and a secularist. . .and, as I recall he did not have any dangerous 'skeletons' in his royal closet or stuffed under his royal bed. Anyway, evangelicals make a sophistic mess of themselves when they make comparisons of Cyrus of Persia to Donald Trump. Trump is no "savior.' Now, the Evangelical conservatives have exposed their 'backside' to the world and we see it is not clean.
Evangelicals on the Right did not ask God for help; they did not wait on God for aid for their proposals—instead they sought this Donald, this creature, and brought it out into the public where it promptly commenced its shtick and own them over—more.
And as is his norm, Donald Trump instantly set about showing his ass, breaking customs, disregarding traditions, and ruining professional and ordinary careers, lying on friend and foe, risking lives of other people in a pandemic, and so forth and so on.
Donald Trump is every bit a menace and diabolical creature now as he has been since before 2015! And MAGAs want it. I repeat-Trump IS what MAGAs want without a doubt.
And as long as Nikki Haley stays in this race for the GOP/MAGAs' primaries and caucuses, it become explicitly clear that MAGAs are looking for a toxic male presence to sent back into the White House (a demonic presence) and not a "child of God" as the propaganda makes it out.
Can you believe it: "Children of God" calling a demonic spirit: "Savior." It is shameful and will be placed on the accounts of the shameless!
You replied to my comment and I gave you a further explanation of it.
The GOP is, in aggregate, all-in for Trump. CPAC is a microcosm of the GOP that is also, no surprise, all-in for Trump.
I am past the point of being surprised when a Trump supporter makes crazy comments.
My statement:
Is not difficult to understand. And certainly not difficult to corroborate given the GOP is all-in for Trump when they have Haley as a very good potential nominee who would clearly beat Biden and would give the GOP the historical mark of being the party of the first female PotUS.
But, no, the GOP has lost its mind and are going to nominate Trump.
Generally true. However, be that as it may, they are not "all-in" for the same reasons.
What isn't generally true, in my opinion, is that CPAC is today a microcosm of the GOP. It was, once but not today, I think. CPAC may have gone too far to the right.
No, I understand well enough how you see it. However, I think you're completely wrong about Haley's chances of becoming President, even if the GOP nominates her. The voters who support Trump will write him in if they have to and that will keep Biden in the White House. I don't think the GOP chose Trump. I think his supporters chose him for them and they see this. It's either Trump or they might as well not bother. The GOP hasn't lost its mind. It is doing what is politically necessary.
Of course not. Why are you stating the obvious?
A pointless debate. The GOP as a whole has lost its mind. I am not interested in opinions that engage in splitting hairs on the relative rightness of CPAC.
Of course you do.
An act of futility and stupidity. That makes it likely to happen yet NOT likely that they realize the consequences of their actions (which is the key problem).
That is what I mean by the GOP. The reason Trump is going to be the nominee is because of those who will vote for him. Not the GOP as (strictly) an organization.
I disagree. I think that the GOP is going to miss a great opportunity to get back on track. Instead they will nominate Trump and he will likely NOT win in the general ... even against Biden.
They have lost their collective mind if they think that Trump is their best shot.
I guarantee the repetitive face plants by maga radicals in the next 6 months will be hilarious, especially in the vast amount of damage they can do to their party.
You sound just like an evangelical.
I think Haley would suck as president. Considering she kisses the former 'president's' ass, I don't trust her one bit. She would probably pardon his big fat ass, if possible.
They have lost their collective mind and you are defending the indefensible.
I guarantee when she announces she's out of the race, her trump endorsement will follow in the next breath...
Yes because no other politician has ever done this
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. . . give the gop the historical mark of being the party of the first female potus . . .
I don't get this at all. Why you give them and her any deference whatsoever. They don't deserve it and have not earned it. I know you don't give this deference to the gop but her. I. JUST. DON'T. GET. IT.
She talks out of both sides of her mouth. How she/they suck his mushroom makes no sense to me.
She is in the right age range, intelligent, experienced, grounded, and a person who would be presidential.
Regarding the first female PotUS, I was speaking in terms of net advantage to the party. In essence I am pointing out how strategically stupid the GOP currently is by taking Trump over Haley.
I agree to disagree. She doesn't appear presidential at all.
In your opinion is there any republican that does look presidential?
Consider this scenario.
You have opined your disdain for both Trump and Biden, however, you have also opined your support for Biden under certain circumstances.
You have also stated that Haley would be better than either of them.
It is highly likely that Trump will be the R nominee and probably president for another 4 years. If Trump were to pick Haley as his running mate (doesn't matter if it is likely or not), would you vote for Trump knowing the following.
Haley would be in a far better situation to becoming president under 2 options.
1. Trump becomes ill or otherwise and Haley will have to step in, or,
2. Trump will have another successful 4 years, putting Haley in great positioning to take his place in 2028, ESPECIALLY if the Ds put forth someone as crappy as Biden in 2028, and you would have yet another chance to vote for her as president.
Despite the right wingers' fevered dreams, the real indications are the Biden will beat Trump, again.
At what? His presidency was a disaster, an American nightmare, his businesses are failing and he is losing in the courts.
Which are?
"His presidency was a disaster, an American nightmare"
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"his businesses are failing and he is losing in the courts."
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OK...can you defend your position?
I will not vote for Trump under any circumstances. And if Haley were to accept a V.P. slot, she will have disqualified herself in my eyes.
My comments are objective regarding facts and very strong evidence.
I have stated that both are unfit and that Trump is an order of magnitude worse for the nation than Biden. Biden's biggest negative is his age. His biggest political negative is his inexplicable inaction on illegal immigration. Trump, in contrast, is a demonstrable traitor. He is a vindictive, irresponsible, narcissist, demagogue asshole who is the only PotUS in our history to try to steal a presidential election through fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement. An individual who could very well be a convicted felon by inauguration day. It is a profound failure of reason for anyone to even consider such a scoundrel, much less flock to him.
This vindictive, cash-challenged, morally bankrupt individual with the powers of the presidency would be terrible for the nation.
To me that is, IMHO
Probably the best indicators are that since 2018 Democrats have been winning elections and special elections all over the country, even the Republican 2022 victory in the House was a mere Red Trickle, plus the surging strength of the economy, Trump's relatively weak showing in the Republican primaries to date with one third or more Republicans voting against him, the fall out from the Dobbs case and the abortion issue, and Trump's malevolent personality and absolute insanity in his public statements.
AFAIC, haley has said many times she would pardon trump if he was convicted, which I consider to be giving aid and comfort to an insurrectionist, disqualifying her from my vote. in the maga primaries, the fix is in with trump's rule changes. only some type of catastrophic change between now and the last super tuesday will alter the inevitable. to me, haley exhibits no inherent leadership qualities and her response(s) to the IVF question suggests she gets very poor campaign advice for botching that missed opportunity to attract independents by letting a potential campaign message difference with trump be wasted. with trump now taking full credit for the repeal of RvW, not only could she have directly opposed him, but also could have peeled off more reluctant trump voters in 2 camps.
We are likely no more than a couple weeks away from Nikki Haley telling us what a wonderful guy Donald Trump is
There is no perfect candidate.
She has stated she would approve a pardon for Trump so as not to divide the country. But, Trump is an opportunist. He will take her pardon. . .and then dismiss her as a fool for granting it to a him (a snake that will bite and poison her as they wade across the 'Deep.')
I take strong exception to a Haley presidency pardoning Donald Trump. Because it is time he pay for his bad acts with consequences. Else, he will 'be back' in a new iteration of, 'I did not complete my mission' and he would 'pepper' Haley's presidency ceaselessly for at least three of her four years. (Transacting one year grace-period for her granting him a pardon.)
Others feel differently. That what differing opinions are for.
"Biden's biggest negative is his age. His biggest political negative is his inexplicable inaction on illegal immigration. "
To this we agree
Until democrats see the failure of Biden with this, his approval will go down even further that it is now. The highly publicized stories of crimes committed by illegals will push even more independents from him, giving Trump an even better chance at a second term
"He is a vindictive, irresponsible, narcissist, demagogue asshole"
Yea, but he is an order of magnitude better than Biden as president. That is what matters most to most voters, not the personality.
"who is the only PotUS in our history to try to steal a presidential election through fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement."
Until he is convicted of such crimes, this is only an opinion. The court of public opinion does not count.
"This vindictive, cash-challenged, morally bankrupt individual with the powers of the presidency would be terrible for the nation."
Correct, however, I don't think Biden is cash strapped as evidenced by the millions he has taken in over the years using only his name as a brand. The rest I agree.
So. . . since Biden has not been convicted. . . you must mean Biden is alleged to have millions from his name as a brand. . . . in the court of public opinion.
Remember that many democrats are able to switch parties the day of voting and vote for a republican. It is documented that many have done just that ONLY to make it look like Haley is more popular. In four years, she will have a much better chance. I honestly think Trump will get more votes this year than he did in 2020. Biden's crappy performance, which has brought buyers remorse from many that voted for him just because he is not Trump will go back to Trump. That, and the invasion at the southern border are indicators that I am correct.
BTW...Trump had nothing to do with the 2022 midterms.
"the fall out from the Dobbs case and the abortion issue,"
Only in the liberal ranks.
"and Trump's malevolent personality and absolute insanity in his public statements. "
It's not what a person says that matters, it's what that person does.
OK...I can see that.
However, because liberals have not actually seen video of Biden taking envelopes of cash, they believe there is zero proof, but hearing Trump say "gather peacefully and patriotically" means he tried an insurrection.
The lunacy.
Correct. I don't think anyone has suggested different.
Thus Haley's imperfections are not necessarily a disqualification.
Follow the context. My statement was not made in response to someone claiming that there is a perfect candidate.
The sum of the message from Trump is on video-tape. He is not alleged to have said what he said (and meant) in totality (and continues to reiterate). Moreover, I am not looking to condemn Trump as a political matter. The man is an insult to the senses (of a liberal) and when told about it (the problem) he never ceases to make matters worse.
That is the lunacy.
Which apparently is very fragile.
"and when told about it (the problem) he never ceases to make matters worse."
I don't think he cares about the senses of a liberal
Never said it was. I responded directly to your post, in which I am correct.
The wonder is you evidently took my statements about Trump personally and chose to feel offended. I won't ask why.
There is absolutely nothing here anyone says to me on here I take personally.
Then it serves no useful purpose to lash out at liberals for calling out a former president who willingly behaves as a vengeful person against people trying to find common ground with him (Trump) but he won't have any of it.
Who might that be?
To most, either you support him or you hate him with every being of your body only because he sent out mean tweets,
"Mean tweets" is a misrepresentation of what principles Donald Trump invoke in liberals, Bugsy.
That is a ridiculous conclusion. You actually believe that the bulk of opposition to Trump is simply because he "sent out mean tweets"?
Nice underhand shot, but meh.....expected
"ou actually believe that the bulk of opposition to Trump is simply because he "sent out mean tweets"
Pretty much how it started. That and beating queen Hillary.
You have a great day.
Trump literally whines and cries about everything... "The media is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO unfair to me!!!!" He whines like a little bitch but liberals are snowflakes? Please, save it...
1. Large percentages of moderates (69%) and independents who voted in the South Carolina Republican primary voted against Trump. Trump can't possibly win without the support of both of those group of voters.
2. Biden's record as President is vastly superior to Trump's. Trump campaigns on his personal grievances and mentions nothing about his presidency. Why? Because he has nothing to run on. Oh, well there were massive tax breaks for billionaires.
3. Trump endorsed numerous candidates in the 2022 mid-term elections and they underperformed significantly vs. non-Trump endorsed candidates. Trump's endorsement was a drag on candidates, not a benefit.
4. The majority of Americans support womens' reproductive freedom and vote accordingly. Voters in several Red States have approved recent legislative and constitutional provisions in favor of womens' right to choose, including voters in Kansas, Kentucky and Ohio. So much for "only in the liberal ranks".
5.
Campaign rhetoric is a fundamental element influencing voters' choice. As mentioned above, Trump has no record of accomplishments to run on so his candidacy is based on selling his personal grievances and sowing division. He is destined for another loss and further repudiation by the American people.
it isn't going to matter very soon. the same person that has built his 8 year political career as the alleged victim of rigged elections, has rigged the republican primary to his advantage.
Yes, he has rigged the republican primary with the complicity of the RNC.
next up, looting the RNC bank account...
watching trump throw the entire GOP under the bus ton save himself will be epic...
This is and has been taking place for almost a year now.
It sickens me to see how many of our fellow citizens believe what this scoundrel says and (worse) know that Trump is a scoundrel yet vote for him nonetheless.
And the apparent naivety (and ignorance) of far too many in the electorate.
knowing who supports trump is a great litmus test for americans that don't...
I told all my maga friends I turned independent because of trump. they don't call me as much as they used to...
I can't think of a better thing for the RNC to spend their money on. I'm sure all the down ticket GoP candidates will be thrilled!
what down ballots? when trump wins, who needs anymore elections?
I'm looking forward to watching autocrats and theocrats suffer for their willful ignorance....
the more graphic the better...
“That what differing opinions are for.”
they'll all deny voting for trump a year from now...
Can you imagine the right wing feeding frenzy if Biden called his wife "Janice"? But trump calls his wife Mercedes and they are totally cool with it.
Oh my!
When I read that he was calling for the end of democracy I immediately asked "and replace it with what" and then he said the magic word...God.
Posobiec wants to replace our democracy with a theocracy but he'd better think hard about that. The leading candidate is no more a Christian than I am and I'm an agnostic. I really don;t think the American people will stand for it unless they have the detention camps already in place
disarming the populace may prove to be problematic for them...
That's the first thing that autocrats do....take away people's guns
they might need oven mittens for mine...
one end could be white hot...
Where was CPAC held this year, in Russia?
The GOP confirms once again that they are without a doubt mindless.
This stuff scares the SHIT outta me....
Hi Veronica: Don't let it scare you. . . be sure to Vote and take everybody you know to vote this fall.
Posobiec and Bannon are both auditioning to be Trump's Secretary of Retribution.
Perfect. This would be, god help us all, the Revenge and Retribution Criminal Enterprise administration.
they'll be caught together at some rundown hotel off the interstate between DC and NYC...
Fuck god. Why would glory be given to an entity who is so clearly mythical as to be 100% incapable of defending itself despite being supposedly omnipotent, infallible, and omnipresent? Yeah, let’s follow the pizzagate guy into that rabbit hole. We are doomed as a species.
Hi Hal! We will win this fall with your vote and the vote of your friends and family!
Help save the species from doom!
Against what do you think He needs to defend Himself? Just curious.
If it had any honor then it shouldn’t be letting me run around all my life calling it out as a pathetic fraud. There’s a very obvious reason that it acts exactly as it would if it did not exist at all.
An interesting reply but I wonder at the reasoning behind it. Thanks for the answer, though.
There’s nothing to wonder about. God is the definition of nothing.
I wasn't referring to your non-belief in God. I was referring to what you apparently consider evidence for that non-belief. Specifically, that because God does not behave as you would expect him to, He therefore does not exist. When I responded with wondering at the reasoning behind it, you responded with the above, which answers my question. You included the conclusion in your premise. Again, thanks for answering.
God is a man made fairy tale for the purpose of controlling large masses of people, especially women and the poor. If there truly is a God I feel pretty confident that he/she would not approve of organized religion and how they have bastardized his/her name to advance their evil agenda.
Haven't seen you in a long time, good to see you.
because God does not behave as you would expect him to, He therefore does not exist.
Lol, as I would expect? Too funny. Your God acts as if most people should expect your Satan to act. Nonreligious people everywhere are leading good and comfortable lives at the same rate as religious ones, and suffering at the same rates as well. What kind of careless piece of shit god does absolutely nothing to affect its creation? I am under no illusion that this reality will break through your lifelong obsession with rationalizing the supposed actions of your supposed god, but you deserve to be reminded of this reality every once in awhile.
I don't understand. Are these not your words?
According to this you seem to expect that God would behave a certain way, defend Himself in this case, if He really existed. You pretty much restate it again in your last post when you say...
Again, because He doesn't meet your expectations, you conclude that He doesn't exist. My original question was, from where do you get these expectations? You don't really answer that.
As for the rest of your post, I won't bother. I understand it is just a rant intended to offend.
"god" is a figment of mythology and superstition.
God is what folk created to absolve their sins.
god was invented to scare the ignorant enough to keep them from butchering the wealthy.
If you're referring to the first monotheistic religion, Judaism, your explanation makes no sense. Throughout ancient history Egyptian, religion was polytheistic. The rich Egyptians didn't invent Judaism.
Holy shit, they're not even trying to hide it anymore.
My publisher would have trashed me for writing something like that as being unbelievable. I guess reality is actually stranger than fiction.
There was another article earlier this last week talking about known Nazis were rubbing elbows with high profile Republicans at CPAC this year.
Unbelievable.
The enemy within.
I listen to rwnj radio sometimes, just to keep my attitude towards them fine tuned.
How has this craziness gotten this far..... I wish I could say I was surprised but this has been in the works for quite some time.
It's nice to see you here PJ
Since Murdoch and Fox at the least.
OFFICAL NOTICE: MAGAs have infected and overrun the GOP/REPUBLICAN PARTY! Time to call on 'Old School' republicans to come off the sidelines and submit their party to inoculation with a cure for MAGAs.
So we have Posobiec at CPAC, the Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Tom Parker quoting scripture in his IVF decision and the freaking Speaker of the House quoting scripture at a House GOP meeting. This will be a problem for the GOP. These 7 Mountain people are fucking nuts. They don't want to govern, they want total control and it won't end well for them.
Far right wing fascism is not likely to end well for anyone!
But still, the fight must be fought. Just like we all fought Hitler.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil in this world is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke.
The Evil in the modern world is Trump and MAGA fascism who support Putin in his war against democracy.
no worries, they're still mortal...
In summation, False Churches, Bigotry and Greed !
Hard core fascism aka Hitler.
Where is a tactical nuclear bomb when you really need one?
"where are they when you need one ?" All nations signatory to the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty have them . The only "non-signer" in possession is Israel .Could be N. Korea and Iran have them, but it's only speculation and accusation now. Speaking for myself, I'm so damn tired of being threatened by authoritarian shit-heels around the world, I say "Let's get it on ass-holes ! " Give Ukraine and Taiwan first strike capability ! Don't threaten anymore! You want to burn this world to a cinder, let's get it done ! Send the evangelicals, the MAGA pukes to their god. Call them out, force their hand,they are all cowards, they won't do shit ! This would apply to all these ass clowns in country here, you want a civil war ? Let's get it on !
america, fuck yeah!
Maybe just a tiny fuel/air device for the next Cpac orgy.
Invite the other girl friend of D.J.T. Let little Kim serve his favorite cocktails, learned from the master chef Putin . I believe they are called "Twilight in the Gulag" .
This has been obvious for a couple decades.