Trump supporters call for riots and violent retribution after verdict
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May 31 - Supporters of former President Donald Trump, enraged by his conviction on 34 felony counts by a New York jury, flooded pro-Trump websites with calls for riots, revolution and violent retribution. After Trump became the first U.S. president to be convicted of a crime, his supporters responded with dozens of violent online posts, according to a Reuters review of comments on three Trump-aligned websites: the former president's own Truth Social platform, Patriots.Win and the Gateway Pundit. Some called for attacks on jurors, the execution of the judge, Justice Juan Merchan, or outright civil war and armed insurrection. “Someone in NY with nothing to lose needs to take care of Merchan,” wrote one commentator on Patriots.Win. “Hopefully he gets met with illegals with a machete,” the post said in reference to illegal immigrants. On Gateway Pundit, one poster suggested shooting liberals after the verdict. “Time to start capping some leftys,” said the post. “This cannot be fixed by voting." Threats of violence and intimidating rhetoric soared after Trump lost the 2020 election and falsely claimed the vote was stolen. As he campaigns for a second White House term, Trump has baselessly cast the judges and prosecutors in his trials as corrupt tools of the Biden administration, intent on sabotaging his White House bid. …
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the trump or death flag being flown out in front of trump tower has to be gratifying to that unamerican and autocratic POS...
I'm sure it strokes his ego, bigly.
Their 'egos' sure require a lot of stroking
... short strokes.
but of course -lol
that's why they're always so angry - like the former 'president' - they feel cheated for getting the short stick
That was the comment that was so frightening to me Sandy. And it's claimed that the left/democrats/progressives are the violent ones by these scum.
Thank you for posting this.
Credit goes to you for finding it, Tessy.
Why is it that violence is always the first resort with the 'right'?
To be fair, I don't think it is for the vast majority.
But Trump has a knack for motivating the worst of his extremist supporters to commit violence for him.
It's sad, really. They risk a lot for him, and he risks practically nothing. And then, when they're sitting in jail, or out on bail, expecting a pardon from their ringleader...crickets.
And then the inauguration went on, anyway. They accomplished nothing except to make criminals of themselves, for a criminal who doesn't give two shits about them.
True, for his cult, the hard core, most definitely.
How many riots have gone down?
How many buildings have been looted/burned?
How many people have been shot and killed as a direct result of the verdicts?
Must have been leftys that posted that to stir up shit since they are the ones most familiar with doing everything above.
I believe this is what writers call "the pregnant pause."
Enjoy your evening.
You have proof of that? Or was that just an unfounded allegation?
I see you forget January 6th.
So answer the question.
Where are all of the riots by pro Trump supporters?
Seems you forgot the Summer of Love and the Pro Hamas riots.
Jan 6th was one damn day; and not even a full day of rioting at that.
Do not presume to give orders. I never said there were riots.
'and not even a full day of rioting at that'
so no biggie, right?
What the fuck???????????????
Never said you did. The point is conservatives do not destroy property every time something does not go their way, much like many on the left do.
Except many did, on January 6th, so your statement is false.
I see you have forgotten the actions of the left in 2016 and early 2017 when Hillary lost. The riots then were happening nation wide and for much longer than what occured in January 6.
I never said a word about the left.
bugsy, however, made a false statement about conservatives.
Wasn't even a whole day. It was only about three or four hours. Liberal riots go on for weeks.and cause much more damage.
That is false. Re read what I said.
The point is conservatives do not destroy property every time something does not go their way, much like many on the left do.
This was at the Trump trial. Trump supporters got violent, and destroyed property. As reported by Fox News.
And, as the article states, it's Trump supporters calling for violence.
So you hold that 'conservatives' destroy property on certain occasions.
But you believe 'the left' does it every time something does not go their way.
What a bizarre alternate reality you have devised.
Another point. Why is it that some are constantly viewing reality in terms of groups (labels)? Everything to some is a stereotype. 'Conservatives' behave one way. 'Liberals' behave some other way. 'The left' (whatever you have imagined that to be) behaves a certain way too.
That is naive and faulty. All conservatives do NOT have the same mind and same behavior. Same for 'the left'. Stereotypes are an excellent way to grossly oversimplify reality and impose confirmation bias through the use of labels.
It is cheap and errant analysis which leads to routinely getting things wrong.
Are you implying that liberal protests nearly always turn violent and destructive or were ever as big and as impactful as was Trump's January 6th 2021, "Save The Steal Rally and Insurrection"? GOOH!
OOOOOHHHH...tore a sign up. Such a violent act s/. Maybe that person should have attempted to burn down the courthouse to be on par with a liberal.
"it's Trump supporters calling for violence."
Calling for and acting on it are two different things. The left is well known for the latter.
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"But you believe 'the left' does it every time something does not go their way."
Pretty much. Can't think of any time they haven't.
"What a bizarre alternate reality you have devised."
The bizarre reality is not seeing that reality that is right in front of their faces.
"All conservatives do NOT have the same mind and same behavior. Same for 'the left'.
Very good. That is why I did not say "all".
Your prejudices and outdated preconceived notions about hippies and liberals and any unfounded fear of ANTIFA, BLM and PETA (/s) have zero zip nada nothing to do with the very real threats posed to Trump's judge and jury now being threatened by violent MAGA!
trump = convicted felon
reality that is right in front of trumpsters faces...
Was the sign property?
It was.
Was the Capitol building property?
It was.
you implying that liberal protests nearly always turn viole
almost Four years to the day progressives attacked the White House injuring dozens of secret service and police….
Then you have a reality filter that you should lose.
Recently, the SCotUS denied Jack Smith's request to rule on Trump's immunity claims because he predicted this would end up in their laps eventually. (He was correct.) The SCotUS required this to first be handled by the DC Court of Appeals. So, after the lower court ruled (not in Trump's favor), this matter came back to the SCotUS. Instead of accepting the lower court ruling that of course Trump is not 100% immune, the SCotUS decided now to take the case. They heard it 6 weeks later and we are still waiting for them to state the obvious: Trump (no PotUS) is 100% immune from prosecution for his actions while PotUS.
This (I am very disappointed to say) is the SCotUS (which used to be our last bastion of objectivity) intentionally delaying the Jan 6th case just like judge Cannon is intentionally delaying the classified documents case. Both agents will likely prevail and the US electorate will not know if the GOP nominee is guilty of the crimes outlined in the respective indictments before they consider their vote.
Where is 'the left' rioting and storming buildings (e.g. the Supreme Court building)?
Here is one recent and critically important case where 'the left' "havent't".
Criminals who still cannot understand the charges against them despite those charges being explained repeatedly to them and sitting though their own trial and being convicted are what?
Insane? Mentally ill? Brain damaged? Total complete bonkers?
What Bugsy?
Today Sean! Who is advocating violence against who today?
That remark is as moronic as ronin's and it wasn't a riot, it was an armed insurrection incited by the former 'president' who did nothing to stop it - just watched for more than three hours while his incited mob wrought death and destruction
It's ALWAYS the supporters of the former 'president' calling for violence, including this article.
boo hoo hoo, it's all the commie leftist democrats fault that republicans are led by a convicted criminal that's an unamerican scumbag fascist... boo hoo hoo...
then be a good trumpster and force it's birth...
Never been to Gateway Pundit. No CoC there?
That brings back memories! I didn't know he was still around...
Long ago I used to be active on Charles Johnson's "Little Green Footballs" site. And often a troll from another site would try to infiltrate and spew hatred-- that was "Gateway Pundit". "Gateway Pundit" was a real nutcase....
The normal people have to stop engaging with these lunatics on forums and social media with the hope they can be "persuaded" by logic, facts, or anything else. All we can do with them is defeat them at the ballot box and in the court of public opinion .
There are millions of people in this country who are too far gone to be reasoned with.
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Democrats?
I would say leftists in general.
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Which is why I don't
but it's fun humiliating the willfully ignorant...
Fun but futile in the long run.
It's impossible to educate those who are incapable of learning.
The vast majority of conservatives flunked out of various schools.
Their hate of the elite is actually their hate of the educated.
The vast majority of conservatives flunked out of various schools.
Proof?
Here's a guy that explains why. (Its Instagram-- click on speaker icon on lower right for sound))
Who should you hate?
So does that mean that you are saying that the folks who engage them on NT are not "The normal people"?
From the article:
This is the state of MAGA: Paranoid Schizophrenic
Not fair to paranoid schizophrenics - these scum are way outside of the Diagnostic and Statistical Journal of Psychiatric and Mental Disorders, there are volumes to be written regarding this disorder.
Psychobabble, Alan Parsons Project
Again. Are you talking about Democrats? Sure sounds like it.
mass hysteria among the mentally defective...
Is anyone surprised? They rioted after he lost the election, too.
Not especially. Appalled, but not surprised.
my source in DC says that local and federal agencies have a coordinated plan to deal with any insurrectionists post election...
Of course, after the former 'president' incited failed insurrection and the threats (even HERE, can you fucking believe it??) of another insurrection which the former 'president' has been inciting for HOW MANY YEARS NOW???????????????????????????since he lost bigly????????????????
Hope so.
No second try at the Beer Hall Putsch?
the heritage foundation's project 2025 is the blueprint for the 4th reich...
My source, that little voice in the back of my mind says "be prepared".
I was a boy scout, until 1 scoutmaster decided give "how to be a man" lessons while the other embezzled all of our dues collected in our camping trip account.
Exactly!
In fact, my sources in DC says that your source is correct!
“One thing I do is, any student that protests, I throw them out of the country. You know, there are a lot of foreign students. As soon as they hear that, they’re going to behave,”
- DJT 5/14/24
Sounds like a good plan. It is a good plan for any foreigner that causes such mayhem and those that are here illegally in the first place.
Very much agree.
They did? Where? When? I seem to recall democrats rioting and having screaming fits and the like when Hillary lost.
Good Lord. Don't bring that up, you'll really get people all riled up saying that never happened and/or it was all caused by the righties!/s
That's the truth - there were no riots by the lefty's and any violence was right extremist plants.
If you say so.
See how quickly they have forgotten Portland and the summer of love? Those certainly were not conservatives torching Portland and setting up their free zones.
Actually, it was false flag fascists burning those cars.
Proof?
A few of them even burnt themselves up with their own Molotov cocktails and were bitching about liberals in the burn ward.
That's usually the case, as we know cj, that 99.99999999999% of the time, that is the case when Leftists/Democrats/Progressives protest.
Proof of this?
And the police precinct and multiple businesses as well? And who set up the illegal free zones as well?
"Sources" are saying it!!!
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A bad move as violence just begets more violence and nobody wins. Those advocating violence need to shut up and let higher courts settle this.
no time in the SCOTUS schedule for that now...
The higher courts settle this?????
Those in the pockets of the wealthy??????????? Excluding those few who are not bought and paid for scum????? like ginni, I mean clarence, and whatever alito's wife's name is????????????
Then what is your solution?
they want to put everything they disagree with in front of SCOTUS, now that 6 justices are bought and paid for...
Not for the 'higher courts to settle this'
Are you then disagreeing with Joe Biden who said that Trump should be given the opportunity to appeal his conviction? You do understand that any appeal will go to the New York Court of Appeals first. That is considered a higher court than the court that found him guilty. He can also appeal up the ladder, all the way to the Supreme Court if he wants to. That is the hallmark of the American legal system.
Strange that you would disagree with Biden.
I didn't say that. Don't lie.
Yes you did. You stated very clearly :
The State of New York has three levels. The trial court where Trump was found guilty is a trial court. As Biden said, Trump can appeal that decision to a higher court. Not sure why you disregard this.
You did not answer my question. So what is your solution to settle this, if not the courts?
I DID NOT SAY THAT,
DON'T LIE.
I don't answer to you.
It's been fucking settled, The turd is guilty on all counts. What should the higher courts decide??????????????????????
JFC - the turd is found guilty on 34 counts by a jury of 12 and the former 'president' who has been inciting violence ever since he lost - 1/6 - and continues to incite - his magats call for riots and violence and retribution against the left - because he was found guilty on all 34 counts - and you all want the supreme court to settle what?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I merely asked you a reasonable question. I never stated you answered to me. My apologies if that offended you. Have a good evening.
... while you flag her comments.
No, you did not.
No worries, they are just some wacko tourists.
called to action by a traitor...
incited
same difference though, right?
Name one person that has been even indicted for treason much less tried and convicted.
It's unprecedented but thanks to your former 'president', not anymore. He's the first traitor and first to try to overthrow Democracy as 'president'
Again show when and where he has been indicted,tried and convicted of treason
How many times must this be explained?
One need not be convicted of treason to qualify as a traitor.
The word ‘traitor’ is a normal English word with colloquial meaning.
Resently, It has been overused and misused so much that it has lost much of the original meaning Like many words now days.
No, it has not. It fits the former 'president' and all those involved on 1/6 in trying to overturn a free and fair election, an attack on our DEMOCRACY.
The word is in the dictionary and is easily understood.
Trump supporters want to redefine the word to only mean ‘convicted of treason’ as yet another lame defense of the indefensible.
Correct. Using the colloquial meaning leaves it up to the individuals opinion. Almost anyone can be accused of being a traitor using the colloquial definition, even Joe. That is why it really doesn't mean squat to most level headed folks.
Oh, you mean the only one that really matters and is not just opinion.
... uh, not by some trumpsters apparently...
Let me repeat right here what I have said elsewhere:
Anyone who is a supporter of former President Trump and commits an act of violence against the government will be caught immediately and prosecuted in a way that no other violent protestor ever has. You are all being watched on social media and everywhere else.
Don't do it.
Interesting that you give a warning that includes a pre-emptive defense for potentially violent supporters - basically "don't do it because you're being watched and will be persecuted" rather than "don't do it because it's wrong."
We have seen plenty that was morally wrong in the past week.
So, upholding the law = immoral.
Engaging in violence because the law has been upheld = not immoral.
Noted.
When the conviction is overturned (it is not if), what will you say about the morality of that DA and judge then?
Will you finally admit they committed a terrible wrong that has undermined the justice system?
When the conviction is NOT overturned (it is not if), what will you say about the morality of the appellate courts and Supreme Court, if it gets there, for not ruling as you wish? That would be interesting to know.
No. Becaue it wasn't. There were laws. He broke them. He was convicted of breaking them. Trump is not above the law.
There's a concept. Above the law. Let's take Trump out of it to calm people down.
Imagine a world where "judges" are given power to enforce vague, elastic rules that are almost entirely discretionary and subjective. The judges are very loyal to their partisan team while claiming to be objective. They use their powers to charge any behavior that is even an arguably an infraction by those not on their team. The Judges only charge the most egregious, inarguable violations by their own team. Some members of the team are so protected that they are never cited, no matter how blatantly they violate the rules. When the judges do cite their own team they then charge them to the least extent possible. An objective study of the numbers of citations demonstrates a clear bias, with judges either only citing members of the other team or a token amount so no objective person can dispute the lopsided nature of justice in this world.
So , in this world, when the judges charge their opponents with subjective violations with no objective standards while ignoring similar and much more egregious behavior from their own team, are they actually showing that that their opponents aren't above the law, or are they just engaging in unequal justice?
Why would we take the former 'president' out of this?
His magats - he has been inciting his magats - ever since he lost the presidency the first time and now since justice has been served for once against his big fat crooked ass, 'trump supporters call for riots and violent retribution after verdict'
and now some are saying - like with all the right wing violence that is supported and incited and enabled by the former 'president' that it's leftys
We leftys aren't calling for the death of the righties
What the huh is that rambling nonsensical garbage?
How has a terrible wrong been committed when justice is served?
Who is this 'we' you keep speaking of????????????
It wasn't vague, Sean. I know you choose to think so, but it is an easily-read, easily-interpreted law. And he broke it. And was convicted of doing so. The prosecution presented the evidence, the evidence persuaded the jury, and the law applied to Trump's actions.
The judge didn't charge Trump. He presided over the trial.
Trump is a convicted felon, in violation of the law multiple times. Why do you object to the law being upheld?
It wasn't vague, Sean
Of course it is, which is why New York has never prosecuted anyone under it before despite countless opportunities. Elastic, subjective laws let the Javert's of the world run rampant and wield what power they have to enforce personal and political vendettas. That's indisputable.
o, but it is an easily-read, easily-interpreted law.
The fact that not a single progressive here was able to even correctly articulate the prosecution's theory (until today) as to what crime Trump committed no matter how many times they were asked and given that information belies that point.
hy do you object to the law being upheld?
I support just laws being upheld and object to the unequal application of badly written ones.
So what exactly was the felony he was charged with?
This information has been provided multiple times across the site. Asking for what has already been provided is trolling, and further requests will be deleted as such.
Sorry you think it's difficult to read, Sean.
orry you think it's difficult to read, Sean.
Lol. A perfect example of my point. thanks.
I'm not the only one who thinks so, Sean.
You repeatedly saying otherwise doesn't make it so, nor does your objection to its application render it illegitimate.
Yeah, you got me:
So another link that confirms what I've said. It's never been used to prosecute anyone in the history of the state despite countless opportunities. So much for equal justice.
The law is on the books and enforceable. If it really bothers you that much, you should petition to get it overturned.
Why? that's what going to happen during the appeal process.
They're going to overturn the law itself?
On what basis?
Vagueness, overbreadth
According to you. Sorry, that's not enough.
I believe the term/s is potential "prosecutorial misconduct" on the part of DA Alvin Bragg and the presiding judge.
when will trumpsters admit their hero is a common criminal?
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Remember Al Capone was a first time nonviolent offender whose only conviction was a politically motivated tax charge that nobody else would probably ever even be prosecuted for! Am I right?
You still haven't figured that out?
Yes I have reminded quite a few people of the comparisons to Al Capone and the governments failures to
convict him for murder, bootlegging, false bookkeeping before finally putting together what amounted to just
tax evasion based on his own bragging and attempts to cut a deal on the taxes.
It may confirm what you believe but not what you said.
You should not state what you cannot prove. What year was the law enacted and why? It wasn't written as casually or as easily as a murder statue. Obviously some group of legislators thought it a good law and a Governor signed it.
SMH
Some memes really do say thousands of words. This one does!
You should not state what you cannot prove.
Of course I can. It’s been posted any number of times by numerous authorities, including those cited by Sandy above. It’s basic knowledge.
Feel free to prove me, and every legal authority that’s commented on the case, wrong. .
Obviously some group of legislators thought it a good law and a Governor signed it.
so what? That’s true of Jim crow laws and every other law. That has zero to do with anything I wrote and has no relevance.
It’s simple, if I’m wrong prove it by citing the case.
Once again, there is a term, a legal defense, for those poor damaged individuals who cannot understand the crimes they were indicated for, are being tried for and wete convicted of commiting. It is called, "Innocent By Reason Of Insanity!
Butt, that prevents Trump from running!
He's not Biden. The prosecutor actually found him competent.
You seem to think that this vile human being can be put back in office and all will be right with the world. It is not going to be like that.
Yet you don't understand Trump's charges!
Now that's funny.
Feel free to tell me what I've gotten wrong.
Even if that is true, what crime is having "contempt for women"
This is nuts.
seem to think that this vile human being can be put back in office and all will be right with the world. It is not going to be like that.
You seem to think engaging in unprecedented lawfare to put another vile human (who's also senile) back in office will make all right with the world. Sorry.
Should someone who has "contempt for women" be president of the United States ? Lets call that a yes or no question.
The hush money case has been considered to be the weakest of the four criminal cases, yet he was convicted in a day and a half of jury deliberation. You know why? BECAUSE THE FACTS ARE NOT IN DISPUTE ! He did it. When he is convicted in the other three cases you will have a new set of excuses. Lawfare 2.0, 3.0 ,and 4.0, I supppose.
Meanwhile Trump is the same piece of shit he is every day of his life.
You dont get it.
Of course not. But you posted a pundit claiming that having "contempt for women" is a crime and that they should be "legally accountable" for it.
What crime is contempt for women?
BECAUSE THE FACTS ARE NOT IN DISPUTE ! He did it
Of course they aren't. Nothing he did was illegal. That's the issue.
hen he is convicted in the other three cases
But by convicting him in a bullshit case that was cobbled together just to "get" him, Democrats have undercut the legitimacy of those prosecutions. That's just common sense. And by not prosecuting Hillary Clinton or Biden for mishandling classified documents while prosecuting Trump for the same crime, they'll just make that impression stronger.
Prosecuting a political opponent should be done for legitimate crimes where selective prosecution isn't an issue.
Democrats have completely screwed that up.
That's a false statement.
You seem to think that none of this means anything because you find problems with how he was prosecuted in New York.
Fuck that.
Nope, and a competent court will show that.
When we are talking about why he was prosecuted in New York, that's all that matters.
Under our system, you aren't supposed to get convicted of a crime because your are a bad guy.
He was prosecuted in New York because he is a criminal. It is the tip of the iceberg.
But you will put him back in office.
So you keep saying, but the only reason you can come up with is "I don't like it! It's not fair!"
Yes and everyone knows, "Ignorance of the law is no defense".
Not being able to understand the law is mental incompetence.
That's on you if that's what you believe.
You just gave up a thumbs up to a claim that Trump wasn't charged with conspiracy, so.....
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The law has been shown to you over and over. You don't even disagree that he falsified business records, as far as I can tell, and that falsification is illegal in and of itself.
Are you telling us that he didn't participate in the falsification of business records, Sean?
Yes, and in every single incidence falsifying those businesses records required that Trump conspire with others and order specific crimes be committed by others with Trump's full knowledge!
No shit. yet you gave up a thumbs up to a claim that Trump wasn't charged with conspiracy yet, you yourself, posted the specific conspiracy statute, so I'm not sure if you are just trolling, and when you think my objections boil down to "I don't like it," it make me think I'm wasting time bothering to respond.
rticipate in the falsification of business records, Sean?
I don't think the prosecution proved Trump had that the necessary intent to defraud by creating the records (even if they are false, which is arguable)
Lol. No they don't.
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This is just laughable at this point.
Why in the world do you think the payment to Daniels was made by Cohen, instead of Trump, the Trump Foundation, or his campaign directly?
To hide the source of the payments, of course. That's defrauding, intentionally.
Really, the lengths you have to go to in order to deny the truth are absurd.
Thanks for acknowledging what we have all seen week in and week out.
You quote two opinions from an unlinked article and claim them to be factual proof that there was never a case based on this law and two unnamed professors who professed to agree.
Feel free to prove your case definitively with facts not opinions.
And to what end? How does this accomplish anything? It amazes me that some will spend entire days arguing in futility while denying the obvious.
The jury, which actually heard the evidence, thought they did and that's what counts.
Arguable in the same way as whether the sun rises in the east is arguable.
Actually Trump seems to be getting worse both Physically and mentally.
you're not the only one that's noticed. why do you think there's so many VP candidates in the GOP now? it's not like any of them could get elected to the office, they'd have to drop into that job by default...
What its like trying to reason with a person that hates trump
Have you completely missed the emotional / irrational rhetoric and 'arguments' made by Trump defenders ... especially since the guilty verdict?
You simplify this down to mere hatred of Trump and totally miss the point that Trump is bad for this nation and that is far beyond being unfit to serve as its president.
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His cognitive impairments appear to be rapidly worsening and he is obviously experiencing a steady decline.
his brain will be gray tapioca by the convention...
Biden's already is!
He will still be more aware and competent than Biden.
liar, fraud, racist, convicted felon, traitor...
trump represents his supporters perfectly...
Not by a long shot.
Trump is completely out of touch and totally incompetent (and a convicted felon, of course). Biden is quite the opposite.
Really?
I will bet Trump knows knows the difference between the leaders of Egypt and Mexico are. I'll bet he knows that Francois Mitterand and Helmit Kohl are dead. Trump does not need a bunny rabbit to follow him around to keep him from saying things he shouldn't. He doesn't call paralyzed and dead congresspeople to stand and take a bow at his rallies. Trump hasn't fell up the stairs to his plane. A bag of illegal drugs were never found in the White House when Trump was president.
The former 'president' doesn't know dick about anything except what benefits himself. He is IMHO a functional illiterate and a proven fucking moron.
He is a demented moron thug.
All the things I mentioned are absolutely true. Each of them have occurred and are well documented. Can you provide documented cases of anything Trump has done recently to bolster your claim. [deleted][✘]
Witnessed my mom go down the tubes to dementia. Very sad.
So glad that she wasn't the leader of the free world!
Yes, really. I will bet Trump couldn't find Mexico or Egypt on a map, or Canada for that matter. I'll bet he has no idea who Francois Mitterrand and Helmut Kohl were, where they were from or what they did. Trump called Victor Orban from Hungary "the great leader of Turkey". Trump needs a muzzle of some sort to keep him from saying all the ridiculous things he shouldn't. He called McCain a loser and said he wasn't a hero. He called the dead American war heroes buried in France losers and suckers and refused attend a ceremony at the cemetery where they are buried. He didn't want wounded veterans to participate in a parade because "No one wants to see that." Trump said the Continental Army took over the airports from the British during the Revolutionary War. Trump testified in a deposition that a photo of E. Jean Carroll was his wife Marla Maples. Want more? Because there are hundreds of them. Trump's dementia is severe and worsening rapidly.
Asked immediately after whether his newly announced tariffs on Chinese goods would hike consumer prices, Biden confused the names of the leaders of America’s two great foreign adversaries .
“No, because here’s the deal. There’s a difference. I made it clear to Putin from the very beginning that — I’m not, we’re not engaging in,” Biden answered before trailing off briefly.
It's almost laughable that people pretend Biden is competent. Almost
that sweet stench of maga desperation and vitriol as trump's polling numbers enter the slow spiral of electoral irrelevance. 35 days until he has to face the judge for the conviction of 34 felonies and a dozen counts of gag order violations, without any show of remorse or contrition, and a whole history of personal insults directed towards that judge and his family... sucks being maga...
Gettysburg WOW!
don't forget intimidation by proxy
I can't believe those spineless dickless impotent hateful weasels aren't being held accountable for their part in pissing and shitting over the Justice System
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It wasn't the comeback you were aiming for, Ed.
Worked for me, but to each their own. Just another matter of perspective.
He has a plethora of extremely bad qualities.
How do? Is being energy independent a bad thing? Is nominating three excellent choices for Supreme Court Justices bad? Is securing the southern border to stop illegal immigrants and drug smugglers and terrorists from coming across bad?
Tell me what's bad. Is that he is conservative? Is it that he does believe in giving away free stuff? I will agree he has a shitty personality but that does not make him bad for the country.
It seems some folks are incapable or unwilling to separate the two.
He has absolutely no redeeming qualities.
Of course not. Only hard core leftist liberals are allowed to have any redeeming qualities? If not than who else is?
It didn't happen under Trump.
Trump nominated three right wing judicial activists to legislate from the bench. Their opinions to date have largely been far outside the mainstream of American society.
It didn't happen under Trump.
Only if you change the definition of "conservative" as it has been recognized for the last century in American politics.
That's something we can ALL agree on.
Tone down your stereotype. You presume waaay too much.
I am not talking about his policies but rather he demeanor, character, integrity, honesty, responsibility, and basically fitness for office.
No point repeating all the bad about Trump yet again since Trump supporters ignore any bad of Trump.
Okay, Ed, you clearly are referring to me.
It takes no mental effort to view Trump in terms of policies and Trump in terms of the human being occupying the office of the presidency. I rarely have criticized his policies (although I certainly could ... top of the list is his irresponsible climate and energy policies). My criticism has focused on his fitness to hold the office.
As with you, I will NOT vote for someone who is so utterly unfit to hold the office of the presidency. Seems to me you liked his policies yet have stated you will not vote for him. But you apparently do not think I am capable of making that same separation.
Why, given the context of your comment was my comment, would you imply that I cannot see the difference between policy and person?
No he wasn’t. He was clearly responding to tessylo.
Insanity. Two of the Judges are the most moderate on the court and the most "conservative, " Gorsuch, votes with the most liberal member more than 2/3 of the times.
The idea that the three Trump justices are out of the mainstream is pure propaganda.
Yes, your comment did, as you correctly prefaced it, devolve into insanity.
The idea that Trump's Federalist Society appointees are not engaging in right wing judicial activism out of the mainstream is propaganda in its purest form.
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Yes, isn't it.
Your comment is a Goebbelsian perversion of the truth, propounding fraudulent attacks in the tradition of the worst of neo-Fascist propaganda, in a transparent effort to disguise that your claims about Trump's Supreme Court appointees are verifiably false and incompatible with objective reality.
Only just saw your response a few moments ago. Sparty was correct in that I was not referring like to you. I did like Trump in the first year or so of his term, but as time went on I realized he was not the right person for the big chair in the Oval Office. If I offended you, that was absolutely not my intention.
You replied to arkpdx who was targeting me.
I take you at your word, but note that when someone is challenging an individual, an affirming reply on the challenge post also naturally applies to that individual.
You have a quote of Tessy saying that?
Makes no sense.
Yet you will support and vote for Biden who is clearly unfit for the office.
How many times must one explain this basic logic: Trump is an order of magnitude worse for this nation than Biden. The best way to use one's vote against Trump is to vote for Biden.
Fine if you disagree, just pay attention enough to comprehend the concept.
A million times wouldnt even put a dent in it.
Of course not.
Opinions do vary
What is the best way to vote against Biden and still vote for someone who mayne able to win? No matter what you say I will not now or ever vote for Biden.
Of course, you are voting for Trump. We all know that and also know that nothing will ever change your mind.
Why bother stating the obvious?
Where did I say that. You don't like it and get all pissy when you think others are putting words in your mouth what makes you think you can do it
You deny that you are voting for Trump?
there's some bookmark potential...
Those were questions not statements. I guess you missed the question marks.
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Your question implied that Tessy had said something she hadn't, and attributes to her views she has not expressed. If you're going to make that accusation, and that is what it was, expect to be called on it.
By your logic, I could put a lot of nasty words in your mouth, and weasel my way out of them by putting a question mark at the end. "You think it's ok to kick puppies?"
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Progress. So you agree your comment makes no sense
Don't forget to eat your tapioca pudding.
Was it jello last night?
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In your own words:
I don't answer to you.
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I just heard, I think someone else may have mentioned it, that the former 'president' could lose his secret service security detail? That would be awesome. Why can't mr. alleged billionaire pay for its' own security?
Who in their right mind would take a bullet for him?
You should try talking with more informed people. You might also brace yourself for the disappointment that you will feel on 11 July.
try using google to translate your comments into latin...
'when will trumpsters admit their hero is a common criminal?'
for the majority of its' life
the US gov't should be monitoring domestic terrorists/insurrectionists that conspire against our democracy and the constitution...
The FBI states that domestic far right-wing hate groups are at the top of their watch list. Which means some here should pack their bags.
plenty of room, since there's no balls in them...
like a certain person hereabouts who seems to have a hard on for a certain person hereabouts, follows me everywhere
Great advice, very patriotic indeed. As long as you're being watched, don't do the crime, but if they are not watching go for it.
I'm more of an advocate of ''don't commit the crime if you can't do the time''....
oh man, now where are they going to go to wear sheets, burn crosses, wave dumb ass flags, and goosestep around in formation?
'you are al being watched on social media and everywhere else'
'don't do it'
Political psychopaths tend not to have that sort of foresight.
Harrison, Arkansas
too bad it's not as unhealthy being a white supremacist as it was 165 years ago...
The former 'president' convicted felon on 34 counts should have thought of similar words before doing the crime
'don't do the crime if you can't do the time'
Is that a bad thing? Do you disapprove?
... only if they're trump voters, apparently.
Like on 1/6? Over 1,400 tried and convicted so far - one scumbag supporter of the former 'president' just got 12 years 'for committing violence against the government'
Don't do it
And Trump told them to. Why isn't Trump in prison?
Exactly what did he say to them to get them to storm the Capitol?
Yes, incited his magats ever since he lost bigly and on the day of the incitement, 1/6
Do cite where he invited anybody to violence on Jan 6.
INCITED
OK. When did he incite anyone to violence be specific and post links.
since I said it started and it continues to this day
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The fact that you do not recognize Trump’s incendiary language even now means that you likely never will.
Right when he said " "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.". Somehow or other that means "Go take over the Government and make me King"
want to see some more clips of trump's speech, speeches of his sycophants, and inaction of trump that day to help build some context? yeah, probably not ...
You forgot mean tweets.
"WE KNOW THEY ARE LYING
THEY KNOW THEY ARE LYING
THEY KNOW THAT WE KNOW THEY ARE LYING
WE KNOW THAT THEY KNOW THAT WE KNOW THEY ARE LYING
AND STILL THEY CONTINUE TO LIE."
ALEXANDER SOLZHENITSYN
Yes, the "In Your Face" of MAGA lies is SHAMELESS.
It isn't subtle. They flaunt it, strut those lies around!
party at my house when that steaming POS ultimately turns hard from natural causes. sorry, you're not invited, but have fun at the wake and parade...
BUT DO YOU KNOW THAT THEY KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT THEY KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE LYING?
Then I guess you are not invited to my streaming Bidens best brain dead brain farts and sharts. Of course it is over 12 hours and growing every day.
... bummer, but you and all your friends have fun there... /s
“…have fun at the wake and parade...”
When the day eventually comes it will be interesting to see his funeral procession and where he will be laid to rest.
Who will walk behind his limousine driven casket? Who will recite the apologetic eulogy? Will the presidential library have a single book? Will anyone really care?
Hopefully they will be subjected to the cruelest type of torture for a few days preceding their actual "punishment'!
And what "way", exactly, would that be?
Perhaps water boarding? being skinned alive? Mass rape?
Perhaps having to watch endless loops of trump speeches where he criticizes the size of Rubio's hands, etc?
The last I think is the worst
his moronic supporters lap that shit up...
The party of "law and order"..
defenders of the constitution... LOL...
and don't forget family values
mob family values ...
aka maga family values...
My view from afar...
So after a democratic prosecutor with the help of a democratic activist judge in a heavily democratic jurisdiction convicts the Republican frontrunner for a crime for which no one has ever been convicted there is no violence from Republicans. Trump just campaigns and raises money.
Guess we see, again, who the party of norms is.
No, just calls for it.
The party of norms is the one without the convicted felon at its helm.
gee, over half a century of political humiliations, and now a convicted felon as their presumed presidential candidate...
Republican elected leaders trash our judicial system while some unstable individuals call for violence. This Party has been led away from being the Party for Law and Order. Just like Trump led them away from fiscal responsibility, fair trade and international stability.
He has split the Party by dismantling its ideology and assisted electing individuals that have no interest or ability in governing.
It’s been around 175 years since major political parties have imploded but I think that I will see one before I die.
the GOP didn't implode, it was a hostile take over by maga morons, from the cowards that chose a paycheck over patriotism.
All true.
In addition:
... our election system, our educational system, our regulatory system, the free press, unions, our intelligence agencies, our military and our foreign allies/alliances just to name a few.
It has become a pernicious force and a profoundly anti-democratic entity.
Far right-wing hate filled fascists going up against inclusive liberals?
Perhaps as long as they keep their group identity.
I have to advise my 'dual citizenship' son who lives in Milwuakee that if he's ever called for jury duty to find some, ANY, excuse not to serve. He needs to realize he's not in Canada any more.
This American told them that I hate fascism. Wasn't picked for jury duty.
no worries. they don't pick people our age any more, because they have to pay us...
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I just tell them that I hate everybody and that I am incontinent.
hanging's not good enough for 'em!
They don't pay younger people?
you only get mileage if employed, employer pays your wages. otherwise jury duty pays $50 plus mileage per day, last I heard...
Actually, now that I think about it, it also depends upon what type of jury duty. There's a jury in a Federal courts system. But also the state system-- wouldn't that very significantly from state to state?
(IDK-- I'm not a lawyer-- and neither do I POOTV).
Aside to Buzz (who can't access YouTube). . . "Unimportant But Interesting":
1. That links to a video (nowadays AKA a "reel") on YouTube that shows the opening credits from an ancient TV show called "LA Law".
2. "POOTV" is an MLA from the early days of the Internet. Originally there was a MLA of "INALB" which was short for "I'm not a lawyer but"... later sometimes expanded to "INALBIPOOTV" meaning "I'm not a lawyer but I play one on TV".
Ah-- those were the daze!!
(And don't get me started on "Miami Vice". ...)
I am waiting for them to arrest and charge Stormy Davis with prostitution. She did admit to having sex and getting paid for it
I've heard of a Storm Davis ... was he plying his other trade in the bullpen?
who's stormy davis?
Davis is the guy who sang Stormy Leather.
Ok I screwed up. Stormy Daniels. She still should be a charged with prostitution and extortion. They just brought my dinner and I was in a hurry
but, but, but, what about charging her "john"? ... don't forget to eat all the jello.
That's the only way the loser gets laid is to pay for it.
$130K = $1.5K per second or $5K per hump...
that's what he leaves on Melania's dresser after finishing
she's selling his DNA to maga bimbos...
oh dear gawd....
no worries, she's keeping it in a regular freezer, in tupperware...
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So arrest every porn star on the planet? You should kick in the NFL.
I have no problem with that one way or the other.
And how about all those sexploiters on OnlyFans?
(I actually met one of them in a course I was taking...never would've guessed she did OnlyFans if she hadn't mentioned it). Never did any actual physical contact though-- so I suppose that's not considered prostitution?)
She extorted him for money. The NDA was the extortion payment.
Trump the victim. Good grief.
It's clear from her lawyer's taped conversations she extorted Trump.
Imagine thinking Strormy Daniels is some sort of victim. She's a sex worker who blackmailed her john.
Defending a lifetime scoundrel, exploitative con-man by claiming he was extorted.
How special. Poor Trump, an altruistic, innocent, decent man being so terribly mistreated by life.
There seems to be no end to the level of absurdity Trump supporters will go to nowadays.
Oh, right. I forgot. Once progressives deem someone a "bad man" they are guilty of everything and everything that happens to them is justifiable.
Just like how dirty cops justify torturing confessions out of gang members. They are bad people and guilty of something, so how could they ever be the victim.
Classic authoritarian thinking.
More ridiculous hyperbole ignoring all facts and logic to spew emotional rhetoric.
Live by the sword, die by the sword
Exactly
Lol. Your facts and logic consists of "orange man bad" therefore he can't be the victim, ever.
Pure projection.
'. . .if they do this to me, they can do this to you. . .' I'm paraphrasing of course
Yes, they can do this to me if I try to cover up paying off a porn star I shtupped to keep it from the missus at home with new born Barron and a Playboy bunny out of the tabloids to so a lot of those who voted for the scumbag may not have due to this.
And if I was President and tried to overthrow the results of a free and fair election with my incitement of an armed insurrection with the BIG LIE and the fake electors scheme
And if I keep Top Secret and Classified Documents and refused to return them and told his attorneys to say that everything was returned and obstructed and attempted to tamper/destroy evidence of his aides moving Top Secret and Classified Documents that I understand not all documents have yet to be returned
And Georgia
And ...
When we/any of us - do these things - yes - they can do this to you - find you guilty of the crimes you have committed
Trump is always the victim!
Aren't you aware of the fact that the most discriminated-against type of people in America today are " White Christian Men "?*
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*Although some would argue about whether or not Trump is actually a true Christian....but let's not go there!
in for a penny, in for a pound...
Prostitution is illegal, pornography is a legal business.
she was auditioning for the apprentice...
Like Kamala auditioning for AG under Willy Brown or VP under Joe.
like melania auditioning for first lady...
lol - the former 'president's' convicted felon of 34 counts reality show
Having sex for money is by definition prostitution. By trying to get more money after the fact is extortion and blackmail.
Where and when did I say it wasn't?
so the former 'president' was her john then
Let me guess, the NDA was her idea too? LOL Are you serious?
Yes, of course it was. This was all in the trial. She hired a lawyer to shop her story to various outlets and her lawyer reached out to cohen and was caught on tape telling cohen how obsessed Daniels was with getting as much as money possible and exploiting the leverage she had.
Yet, Trump is still denying he ever tapped that...
I'm sure he's lying. Doesn't really have anything to do with Stormy Daniels going after him for more money years after having sex with him for money.
Not if you merely "ask nicely"....
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Why would she need an NDA? Was she running for president? Was she the one cheating on her spouse? Yea, ok...
So SHE wanted an NDA, then in the next sentence you say she wanted her story, 'out there'..
I'm pretty sure trump wanted the NDA, not her.
Watched the KC Chiefs at the White House the other day.
Biden made a great speech and played around with Kelce.
He gave Kelce the mike. Kelce said he didn't want to be tased by Mahomes.
The Chiefs gave him a helmet and Biden put it on.
No report yet as to whether Andy snuck down to the WH kitchen again.
Seems the White House and the Chiefs are getting comfy with each other.
Who knows what hijinks will ensue next year after the 3peat.
did their thumper kicker show up?
... or was he at home putting a few more thru the uprights?
Karine emphasized that ALL Chiefs were invited to the WH. He was there.
A president Trump would have banned him. President Biden didn't.
Seems that Biden and Kelce are becoming good friends.
Wouldn't surprise me if TnT were invited for dinner at the WH soon.
So Buttkiss was there. .
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Almost a week and no widespread rioting or violent retribution .,,,,,, DOH!
Hang in there. Any day now you will see a post of someone in a Maga hat stealing an apple at a farmers market with a headline of trump inspired insurrection 2.0.
I guess that most folk realize that Trump is an insane nobody now.
Good guess. Any facts to support it?
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a never ending ranting raving shitshow/freakshow/demented circus act
Only vile shit online.
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A group of left wing protesters vandalized monuments outside the white house, called for jihad and the murder of Jews while waiving pro-Hamas banners , and attacked a park ranger.
No one was arrested. (the cops tried but the mob"liberated" him. The President is silent. The Media largely ignored it. The DOJ isn't going to spend years tracking these people down and send them to jail for years. Some calls for violence (and actual violence) are more equal and protected than others.
Is the democrats true fear that Trump is going to get sentenced to four years of community service starting in January 2025?
... as long as he loses all ex-POTUS benefits and he tours the US picking up trash along the highways, shackled (prison inmate rules), while wearing a GPS tracker showing his 24/7 location by app for those 4 years ...
yeah, I'm good with that...
let's all refer to the former 'president' as #34 rather than #45
let's all refer to the former 'president' as #34 rather than #45
including loss of secret service detail
i'm cool with that too
To get cool, you’ll need to revise the Former Presidents Protection Act of 2012. It provides lifetime Secret Service protection.