Not really, there will always be moronic incels like this guy. they need the power of religion to get woman to listen to them, because they simply lack.
thumpers will be the lowest hanging fruit when maga over reaches their constitutional authority. their false prophets and saviors won't protect them or their clubhouses of hypocrisy. keep a running list of clergy and churches that promote unconstitutional and unamerican ideas, they'll come in handy later, when freedom loving americans get their historic turn at culling the thumper herds.
I would also say I'm not sure "so it begins" is an appropriate headline.
Since it is my blog, I think it is - if you don't like it write your own.
As for the rest of your statement - if only not attending his church would save women's rights & lives - take a look at women's health care in mainly red states if you do not think women are taking a beating - not to mention some states want to get rid of no fault divorces which will most likely increase domestic violence.
I was once a registered libertarian but only because of that legal weed thingy. Then I started understanding what they were really about (selfishness) I left the party. Not all are bad, but I thought libertarians were the live and let live type, ya know...you do you and I'll do me
Why do you do this? Do you argue just for the sake of argument?
It's a political forum on the internet.
I don't see anything constructive in your comments.
I don't see anything constructive in some sort of nonsensical lament pretending the comments from some clergyman are somehow indicative of some nefarious new trend of men "wanting women to be property again".
I was once a registered libertarian but only because of that legal weed thingy. Then I started understanding what they were really about (selfishness) I left the party. Not all are bad, but I thought libertarians were the live and let live type, ya know...you do you and I'll do me
I'm trying to not do me, but I can't find any takers.....
Seriously, though, lower case "l" libertarians are the "You do you, I'll do me," type. It is when the party politics take over that things start getting weird. Then again, libertarians, at least the types who have come to the realization that they are libertarians through thought and discourse, are as diverse a group as any other manufactured grouping of people. There are staunch, right-wing libertarians that have a somewhat constrained opinion of what libertarians are (IMO), all the way across the spectrum till you get to someone like me: A liberal libertarian.
If you will please pardon me for saying, you joined the Party because of what you thought it stood for, not what it actually did. Kudos for splittin' when you saw the truth.
(This was written under the influence of good music, good pot, and I take no responsibility for it, ...ppphhht! It's all mine!)
There are staunch, right-wing libertarians that have a somewhat constrained opinion of what libertarians are (IMO), all the way across the spectrum till you get to someone like me: A liberal libertarian.
So a classical liberal then? That would put you in roughly the same company as many of our countries’ founders or influencers of the founders, like John Locke, Benjamin Franklin, or Thomas Paine, and later other political thinkers like Friedrich Hayek?
I consider myself in roughly that same category to the extent that I can find practical application for the principles in a world where we seem to have forgotten the value of such principles.
Libertarianism is rooted in the concept of individualism and the importance of individual rights, but not to the extent of “selfishness” in my opinion. It is more aptly described in a societal setting as the mutually agreed upon pursuit of rational self-interest. You do you, I do me and we agree to share our individual skills for our mutual advancement, multiplied by as many of us who wish to work and play together.
once alleged libertarians put the corporate dick in their mouths, they're no longer libertarians ...
If they do it to get elected or play favorites then perhaps you have a point with respect to staying out of the way of, or not manipulating, free market competition. So, do Republicans and Democrats who do that cease to be Republicans or Democrats, or is the title more important than the damage they do?
Try these on for size:
once alleged regulators put the corporate dick in their mouths, they're no longer regulators ...
once alleged elected officials put the corporate dick in their mouths, they're no longer elected officials ... They are bought officials whether they be Libertarian, Democrat or Republican.
These are much more accurate statements and easier to explain.
Libertarianism is rooted in the concept of individualism and the importance of individual rights, but not to the extent of “selfishness” in my opinion. It is more aptly described in a societal setting as the mutually agreed upon pursuit of rational self-interest. You do you, I do me and we agree to share our individual skills for our mutual advancement, multiplied by as many of us who wish to work and play together.
It is that last part that some people forget about.
Once upon a time I was an Ayn Rand "Virtue of Selfishness" follower, but then I grew facial hair and actually lived in the world a bit. With time, I saw that the individual, in order to live in a society, must make decisions to be a part of that society. These decisions would directly conflict with the Randian philosophy. But, by giving just a little, the opportunity to make not just your own little situation but that of the society at large better was magnified by cooperation with society. And that is the extremely shortened version of "how I cam to agree with the statement bolded above."
These (sharing, cooperation) are not the ideals of Trump, his cohorts, or his followers. They, IMO, are takers. They take whatever society can give to them and just keep coming back, demanding more. This is destructive to society, but I guess it makes people vote for them, because their myopic view of strength is based on this destruction.
It is that last part that some people forget about.
Perhaps, but I think some people forget about the other parts too. Like the "rational" in rational self-interest. Or the "you do you, I do me" part without enlisting and growing a central power that incrementally eats away at that freedom and autonomy.
Once upon a time I was an Ayn Rand "Virtue of Selfishness" follower, but then I grew facial hair and actually lived in the world a bit.
Understood. I too read much of Rand's works, and others like Murray Rothbard. It took me forever to get through Atlas Shrugged because it was so boring I kept dropping the book on my face as I read it before bedtime. The anarcho-capitalist end of the Libertarian spectrum (more Murray, less in Rand's case) is a bit much to swallow, and difficult to implement when you are talking about societies of millions or billions of people. At some point we absolutely need to work together as you indicate, and I don't think even the most extreme on the Libertarian spectrum would disagree with that.
With time, I saw that the individual, in order to live in a society, must make decisions to be a part of that society. These decisions would directly conflict with the Randian philosophy.
Rand's philosophy, including Objectivism, did not discourage people from working together or forming societies. She simply felt that the pursuit of rational self-interest and the minimization of force between participants in that society was the best way to build a productive and happy society. She felt that individual rights were of primary importance and that a republican form of limited government and a free capitalist economy were most conducive to the preservation of individual rights and liberty. Her thoughts along those lines, not much different than our founders. Remember she came from Russia under Lenin and understood the dangers of an authoritarian state, especially those that go overboard with the supposed emphasis on collectivism, at the expense of individual liberty.
These (sharing, cooperation) are not the ideals of Trump, his cohorts, or his followers. They, IMO, are takers. They take whatever society can give to them and just keep coming back, demanding more.
Perhaps. But do you really think they are the only ones?
Perhaps. But do you really think they are the only ones?
Not at all. But their positions of power place them in a much stronger position to act badly in pursuit of what they want compared to the average person.
when I was at my peak in sales, I completely ignored the sales manager's demands to attend weekly sales meetings, salesperson networking events, and sales motivational speaking tours. since myself and another sales person were responsible for 30% of gross sales in a 40 member sales team, it just seemed counter productive to us. we'd schedule our own morning sales appointments the same day as the weekly 3 hour sales meeting, that we weren't getting paid to attend as 100% commission sales reps, and stroll in with contracts in hand at the end of the meetings. nobody in management ever said one fucking thing to us in the beginning, and the one month the sales manager made a big stink about it and threatened us with retaliation, we conspired with each and both scheduled week long vacations separately thru HR for the beginning of peak season. management didn't realize we had done it until we were both gone. we came back to a new sales manager and new rules for top performing sales reps. greed always has a price ...
But if someone doesn't see it-- does that necessarily mean its not valid?(Curious minds want to know!)
Depends on which part of it we're talking about.
On the one hand, you have this guy saying things reminiscent of a time when women actually struggled for equal rights. So I think it is definitely valid to notice that and to do whatever an individual person can to make sure we don't return to the era of women needing their husband's permission to get a credit card or not being able to attend Ivy League schools, etc.
On the other hand, we have the suggestion/belief that this kind of thing is being brought about by a (very slight) shift in the American political landscape, or that this "begins" in conjunction with an election or even that these people are somehow more emboldened now than they were 6 months ago. There is no validity in any of that. These people have been singing this same song since the 1960s or before. This is like hearing "Can't Buy Me Love" and proclaiming the Beatles are new.
So does this particular tribe of religious fundamentalists maintain the fantasy that we should all going to "go back" to this hyper-idealized time of Ward and June Cleaver that only ever existed on television anyway? Sure. Is that new? Absolutely not.
There is another idea at play here, where people presume that these conservative religious views that are seen as oppressive to women are not also driven by them. That stubbornly ignores not only the prevailing data points but the historical development of religion in America (and earlier).
Sounds like the traditional paternal cultural beliefs found in Muslim countries, India, and to, some extent, in Southeast Asian and Eastern European democracies.
Countries that choose to be more open to cultural exchange and immigration, of necessity, must be more accepting and tolerant of the traditional beliefs and customs of those allowed into the country. Why would it be surprising that open-border countries would gradually appropriate and adopt these traditional beliefs?
So one idiot spouts off and all men automatically believe this?
Well this male atheist hates kids and will never have any- so that rules out 2,3,6,7,& 8 for me
I will never get married (Any woman crazy enough to want to ever marry me I will be running far, far, away from. Because the only women that seem to be interested in me want to change everything about me. If I am ever fortunate to meet a woman that doesn't want to change me; and that I am interested in- then she won't want to get married either anyways. My parent's marriage soured me the idea. You don't need to be married to be together and happy.)- so that rules out 4 & 5
I am sure there are some pleasant sane feminists out there. Not the ones that are running around shaving their heads; stocking up on birth control and morning after pills; even though they are threatening to never have sex with any man again since Trump won.
I am sure there are some pleasant sane feminists out there. Not the ones that are running around shaving their heads; stocking up on birth control and morning after pills; even though they are threatening to never have sex with any man again since Trump won.
Have you ever considered hanging out with a different crowd?
Not the ones that are running around shaving their heads; stocking up on birth control and morning after pills; even though they are threatening to never have sex with any man again since Trump won.
Well, at least you're not into stereotyping (nor being overly judgemental!!!)
I would call this an extremist religious (biblical) outlook.
How does this enter into politics? I saw an article just a few minutes ago that says that 16 of the 17 most religious states in America are red states. The one "blue state" on the list is Virginia.
You could call this nonsense about trad wives the counterpoint to "wokeness". Yet I doubt we will hear the MAGA leaders condemning it.
No surprises there but I was surprised PA wasn't on there. It really is a very rural state like Ohio. It only has 2 major cities and the area between them are "fondly" called Pennsyltucky
this month would have been my 46th (51st), but I did too good of a job at turning a gullible bleach blond nymphomaniac into an independent thinker and self sufficient woman. I did a much better job at turning my daughter into a 100 pound bully in the construction industry that cowers millionaire vendors, but she still likes me ...
If my late wife had not passed away after 42 years of marriage in December of 2016 we would have celebrated 50 years last year. Always treasure those you have now, for you never know when you will lose them. We did not have the perfect marriage but we made it work for us and were happy.
I'm sorry, Ed. My parents had 50 years together before my dad passed. Mom passed only a few months after that. I know it sounds stupid but I think she died of a broken heart
My feeling is that I got left on this Earth for one reason and that is to make sure my granddaughter was taken care of and to be there as a father figure that she needs. Her biological father died when she was 6 months old.
Cheese burger that's Macca's crap... wouldn't even give it stomach room..
If you have a hamburger you get one with the lot from a fish and chip shop...
Toasted bun without sugar in it... BBQ sauce... lettuce cheese egg bacon a real meat patty tomato beetroot onion and for the adventurous a slice of pineapple...
And you really do need two hands to eat it..
Sigh..not my photo...and no you don't need fries with it...
... you're bloody bonkers mate. french fries are chips, cookies are biscuits, and potato chips are crisps. then to top it all off, you smear refrigerated grasshopper food on toast and call it breakfast, while tossing a fried egg on every entree served from lunch to dinner.
you'll notice how many popular english restaurants there are here in the states, and the alleged chain of oz restaurants are barely one rung above having a drive up window. it makes a sane person wonder about any kind of cuisine that comes from a large island.
Hate to tell you but have never ever heard of blooming onions..never seen them here and no one would even know what they were...seems this mob don't have a clue and make it up as they go..
I had to google it and pass.. wouldn't eat it if you paid me..heart attack waiting to happen..
Authentic Aussie food is nothing like the tucker you mob seem to cop over there..
The closest we have is onion rings which I don't eat..
there used to be a burger stand in a sketchy neighborhood here a few decades ago that had the best onion rings in a 500 mile radius. 4 or 5 rings was a meal by itself.
I feel nothing (absolutely zero) for these women who voted 'away' their ability to secure a path in life for themselves. The problem comes that such women feel nothing about dragging down their 'sisters' of a different worldview! (And before anybody asks: I feel nothing (absolutely zilch) for blacks who vote away their freedoms, rights, liberties, and opportunities to 'right' the metaphorical boat either.)
'Next' up?
Getting rid of the domestic violence act ASAP. And, then it will be legal to beat the hell out of "her" at will. And, rebuilding of so-called, "affordable housing" AKA: the Projects/Ghettos.
Friend cjcold, I perceive you are being sarcastic (though the tag is missing). That said, things may have actually been more simpler for some people who can speak to it. 'Back then' was living in a version of Hell forpeople trapped in marginalized groups and circumstances where racists and some conservatives directed and controlled their access to freedoms, rights, and privileges. :)
I feel nothing (absolutely zero) for these women who voted 'away' their ability to secure a path in life for themselves.
Wow! Please tell me I’m misunderstanding your meaning here.
I think we all agree that the author of the subject tweet is a piece of shit for insisting he knows with authority what should make women happy. As if women can’t decide for themselves what makes them happy and have the autonomy to make any other decisions that they feel are right or best for them.
Yet here it appears you are berating, or expressing “zero” regard for, some women for how they voted and insisting that your feelings about what they’ve done based on your worldview supersedes their personal decision or reasons for it. What makes you think they voted away their ability to secure the path in life that THEY want? Why do you even presume to know or assume what any woman’s path in life should be? Honestly, how is that attitude any better than the tweeter’s?
I'm too lazy to try and think for someone else and run their lives for them. My wife and I are on our 25th year together and we still have our own bank accounts.
I'm too lazy to try and think for someone else and run their lives for them. My wife and I are on our 25th year together and we still have our own bank accounts.
You are missing the fact that nobody gives a shit what you or me or anyone else thinks will make ladies happy in 2025. What really matters is what each and every woman thinks will make her happy in 2025, and that she will be able to make her happiness a reality.
Milton Berle (born July 12, 1908, New York, New York, U.S.—died March 27, 2002, Los Angeles, California) was an American comedian who, as a popular entertainer in the early days of television in the United States, came to be known as “Mr. Television.” Berle first appeared on the vaudeville stage at age 10.
Really? Is that your idea of respect for women, their right to choose what makes them happy, and their individual autonomy to make their own decisions? How is that any better than the asshole who wrote the text that is the subject of this thread?
Hard to conclude that you really care about this subject when you say something like that about a woman who you don’t think meets your standard for what a woman should be, or how she should think.
it may be a woman's right to be submit to 2nd class status, but yeah, I have zero respect for any women that willingly subject themselves religious subservience, and I'll use my right to express that here in the US.
It is a woman's right to submit to being a 2nd class citizen, but any woman who expects ME to submit to being a 2nd class citizen is displaying internalized misogyny, and can be expected to be called out on it.
Does any one really care?
Not really, there will always be moronic incels like this guy. they need the power of religion to get woman to listen to them, because they simply lack.
thumpers will be the lowest hanging fruit when maga over reaches their constitutional authority. their false prophets and saviors won't protect them or their clubhouses of hypocrisy. keep a running list of clergy and churches that promote unconstitutional and unamerican ideas, they'll come in handy later, when freedom loving americans get their historic turn at culling the thumper herds.
I am a man and have never considered any woman property.
Seems a few exes wanted me to feel that way. To be owned?
Many women have tried to treat me as property. Didn't take.
Guess at 70 I'm still just a child of the 60s.
I guarantee organized religions that lean right will pay a very high price for their attempts to make women 2nd class citizens.
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Tell that to women of republican run states that have outlawed (for the most part) abortions. How many of those republicans have been re-elected?
In my state?
All of them.
women that vote republican are telling men how they want/expect to be treated ...
Well, that's not a misogynistic comment at all...
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Sad but true.
it was pretty fun during the bush administration ...
I'm still in the closet, but some people are urging me to come out.
Well if that's true-- then what are women who vote democratic telling men?
they're telling maga men to go jerk off ...
what a popular comment ... /s
What a pathetic attempt...
Not at all.
He's a pastor. If you disagree with him (as I do), then don't go to his church.
I would also say I'm not sure "so it begins" is an appropriate headline. These guys have been saying this for decades.
Since it is my blog, I think it is - if you don't like it write your own.
As for the rest of your statement - if only not attending his church would save women's rights & lives - take a look at women's health care in mainly red states if you do not think women are taking a beating - not to mention some states want to get rid of no fault divorces which will most likely increase domestic violence.
Just because you're just now noticing something doesn't mean it's new. These guys have been at this for decades.
Are we trying to say that what this dipshit posts on Twitter is somehow endangering women's rights & lives?
Take a look at men's health care in those places. It isn't any better.
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Why do you do this? Do you argue just for the sake of argument? I don't see anything constructive in your comments.
He is a libertarian. Enough said.
I was once a registered libertarian but only because of that legal weed thingy. Then I started understanding what they were really about (selfishness) I left the party. Not all are bad, but I thought libertarians were the live and let live type, ya know...you do you and I'll do me
in the last several decades libertarian-ism has morphed into something a bit different ...
It's a political forum on the internet.
I don't see anything constructive in some sort of nonsensical lament pretending the comments from some clergyman are somehow indicative of some nefarious new trend of men "wanting women to be property again".
No, but I voted for one this time.
Because the first step to re-establishing women as property is to appoint one to the Supreme Court?
I'm trying to not do me, but I can't find any takers.....
Seriously, though, lower case "l" libertarians are the "You do you, I'll do me," type. It is when the party politics take over that things start getting weird. Then again, libertarians, at least the types who have come to the realization that they are libertarians through thought and discourse, are as diverse a group as any other manufactured grouping of people. There are staunch, right-wing libertarians that have a somewhat constrained opinion of what libertarians are (IMO), all the way across the spectrum till you get to someone like me: A liberal libertarian.
If you will please pardon me for saying, you joined the Party because of what you thought it stood for, not what it actually did. Kudos for splittin' when you saw the truth.
(This was written under the influence of good music, good pot, and I take no responsibility for it, ...ppphhht! It's all mine!)
So a classical liberal then? That would put you in roughly the same company as many of our countries’ founders or influencers of the founders, like John Locke, Benjamin Franklin, or Thomas Paine, and later other political thinkers like Friedrich Hayek?
I consider myself in roughly that same category to the extent that I can find practical application for the principles in a world where we seem to have forgotten the value of such principles.
Libertarianism is rooted in the concept of individualism and the importance of individual rights, but not to the extent of “selfishness” in my opinion. It is more aptly described in a societal setting as the mutually agreed upon pursuit of rational self-interest. You do you, I do me and we agree to share our individual skills for our mutual advancement, multiplied by as many of us who wish to work and play together.
I called myself a liberal libertarian once in another forum and got laughed at. Them people weren't as smart as they thought they were
once alleged libertarians put the corporate dick in their mouths, they're no longer libertarians ...
No then they become corporatists
fake libertarians want physical and communal infrastructure without having to pay taxes for it ...
They want to personally own it so they can charge you to use it
Maybe they just want the rich to pay their fair share. OOOPS, that would make them democrats.
Never mind
If they do it to get elected or play favorites then perhaps you have a point with respect to staying out of the way of, or not manipulating, free market competition. So, do Republicans and Democrats who do that cease to be Republicans or Democrats, or is the title more important than the damage they do?
Try these on for size:
once alleged regulators put the corporate dick in their mouths, they're no longer regulators ...
once alleged elected officials put the corporate dick in their mouths, they're no longer elected officials ... They are bought officials whether they be Libertarian, Democrat or Republican.
These are much more accurate statements and easier to explain.
It is that last part that some people forget about.
Once upon a time I was an Ayn Rand "Virtue of Selfishness" follower, but then I grew facial hair and actually lived in the world a bit. With time, I saw that the individual, in order to live in a society, must make decisions to be a part of that society. These decisions would directly conflict with the Randian philosophy. But, by giving just a little, the opportunity to make not just your own little situation but that of the society at large better was magnified by cooperation with society. And that is the extremely shortened version of "how I cam to agree with the statement bolded above."
These (sharing, cooperation) are not the ideals of Trump, his cohorts, or his followers. They, IMO, are takers. They take whatever society can give to them and just keep coming back, demanding more. This is destructive to society, but I guess it makes people vote for them, because their myopic view of strength is based on this destruction.
I don't care anymore who laughs at me. Stick to your guns, girl.
Welcome to the Internet!
I'm more mature and stronger now
for some adherents, their libertarianism seems to evolve with net worth ...
Perhaps, but I think some people forget about the other parts too. Like the "rational" in rational self-interest. Or the "you do you, I do me" part without enlisting and growing a central power that incrementally eats away at that freedom and autonomy.
Understood. I too read much of Rand's works, and others like Murray Rothbard. It took me forever to get through Atlas Shrugged because it was so boring I kept dropping the book on my face as I read it before bedtime. The anarcho-capitalist end of the Libertarian spectrum (more Murray, less in Rand's case) is a bit much to swallow, and difficult to implement when you are talking about societies of millions or billions of people. At some point we absolutely need to work together as you indicate, and I don't think even the most extreme on the Libertarian spectrum would disagree with that.
Rand's philosophy, including Objectivism, did not discourage people from working together or forming societies. She simply felt that the pursuit of rational self-interest and the minimization of force between participants in that society was the best way to build a productive and happy society. She felt that individual rights were of primary importance and that a republican form of limited government and a free capitalist economy were most conducive to the preservation of individual rights and liberty. Her thoughts along those lines, not much different than our founders. Remember she came from Russia under Lenin and understood the dangers of an authoritarian state, especially those that go overboard with the supposed emphasis on collectivism, at the expense of individual liberty.
Perhaps. But do you really think they are the only ones?
Not at all. But their positions of power place them in a much stronger position to act badly in pursuit of what they want compared to the average person.
that's just human nature. case in point ...
when I was at my peak in sales, I completely ignored the sales manager's demands to attend weekly sales meetings, salesperson networking events, and sales motivational speaking tours. since myself and another sales person were responsible for 30% of gross sales in a 40 member sales team, it just seemed counter productive to us. we'd schedule our own morning sales appointments the same day as the weekly 3 hour sales meeting, that we weren't getting paid to attend as 100% commission sales reps, and stroll in with contracts in hand at the end of the meetings. nobody in management ever said one fucking thing to us in the beginning, and the one month the sales manager made a big stink about it and threatened us with retaliation, we conspired with each and both scheduled week long vacations separately thru HR for the beginning of peak season. management didn't realize we had done it until we were both gone. we came back to a new sales manager and new rules for top performing sales reps. greed always has a price ...
But if someone doesn't see it-- does that necessarily mean its not valid?
(Curious minds want to know!)
Depends on which part of it we're talking about.
On the one hand, you have this guy saying things reminiscent of a time when women actually struggled for equal rights. So I think it is definitely valid to notice that and to do whatever an individual person can to make sure we don't return to the era of women needing their husband's permission to get a credit card or not being able to attend Ivy League schools, etc.
On the other hand, we have the suggestion/belief that this kind of thing is being brought about by a (very slight) shift in the American political landscape, or that this "begins" in conjunction with an election or even that these people are somehow more emboldened now than they were 6 months ago. There is no validity in any of that. These people have been singing this same song since the 1960s or before. This is like hearing "Can't Buy Me Love" and proclaiming the Beatles are new.
So does this particular tribe of religious fundamentalists maintain the fantasy that we should all going to "go back" to this hyper-idealized time of Ward and June Cleaver that only ever existed on television anyway? Sure. Is that new? Absolutely not.
There is another idea at play here, where people presume that these conservative religious views that are seen as oppressive to women are not also driven by them. That stubbornly ignores not only the prevailing data points but the historical development of religion in America (and earlier).
... civil and social
Sometimes the wrong people are billed.
... sometimes?
Can't ignore that there are women who would jump at that.
... and they're easy to spot. they have drink holders and ashtrays built into the tops of their maga hats ...
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Sounds like the traditional paternal cultural beliefs found in Muslim countries, India, and to, some extent, in Southeast Asian and Eastern European democracies.
Countries that choose to be more open to cultural exchange and immigration, of necessity, must be more accepting and tolerant of the traditional beliefs and customs of those allowed into the country. Why would it be surprising that open-border countries would gradually appropriate and adopt these traditional beliefs?
What is an "Open border country"?
So one idiot spouts off and all men automatically believe this?
Well this male atheist hates kids and will never have any- so that rules out 2,3,6,7,& 8 for me
I will never get married (Any woman crazy enough to want to ever marry me I will be running far, far, away from. Because the only women that seem to be interested in me want to change everything about me. If I am ever fortunate to meet a woman that doesn't want to change me; and that I am interested in- then she won't want to get married either anyways. My parent's marriage soured me the idea. You don't need to be married to be together and happy.)- so that rules out 4 & 5
I am sure there are some pleasant sane feminists out there. Not the ones that are running around shaving their heads; stocking up on birth control and morning after pills; even though they are threatening to never have sex with any man again since Trump won.
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He's just repeating what the bible says, so yes all christian bible thumping men believe him.
99.99% of thumpers that wear their religion on their sleeves wouldn't make the armageddon cut ...
Have you ever considered hanging out with a different crowd?
... the church crowd?
Well, at least you're not into stereotyping (nor being overly judgemental!!!)
I would call this an extremist religious (biblical) outlook.
How does this enter into politics? I saw an article just a few minutes ago that says that 16 of the 17 most religious states in America are red states. The one "blue state" on the list is Virginia.
You could call this nonsense about trad wives the counterpoint to "wokeness". Yet I doubt we will hear the MAGA leaders condemning it.
You think MAGA leaders should condemn women for choosing how to live their lives?
They already do.
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Are you kidding me? They do exactly that right now.
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well, you know, except for that bodily autonomy thing ...
... and freedom from religion.
and equal treatment as an american ...
17 Most Religious States in America
No surprises there but I was surprised PA wasn't on there. It really is a very rural state like Ohio. It only has 2 major cities and the area between them are "fondly" called Pennsyltucky
not too shocking that almost all of those states are gullible maga states also ...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't "woke" mean that one is just a student of history?
And those who are not woke try to rewrite it?
I'd rather be woke than a f'n maga sleepwalker ...
aka moron ...
I've seen this. My response? Fuck that. I will never submit to a man. I love my spouse but we are equals.
Same here & we are working on 40 years of wedded bliss.
We just passed our 35th
this month would have been my 46th (51st), but I did too good of a job at turning a gullible bleach blond nymphomaniac into an independent thinker and self sufficient woman. I did a much better job at turning my daughter into a 100 pound bully in the construction industry that cowers millionaire vendors, but she still likes me ...
Then why did you let her go?
I've always given her what she wanted.
the question is: Did he have a choice?
If my late wife had not passed away after 42 years of marriage in December of 2016 we would have celebrated 50 years last year. Always treasure those you have now, for you never know when you will lose them. We did not have the perfect marriage but we made it work for us and were happy.
I'm sorry, Ed. My parents had 50 years together before my dad passed. Mom passed only a few months after that. I know it sounds stupid but I think she died of a broken heart
My feeling is that I got left on this Earth for one reason and that is to make sure my granddaughter was taken care of and to be there as a father figure that she needs. Her biological father died when she was 6 months old.
That is so sad. I'm glad you're there for her
Congratulations. Our 35th is this year.
Thanks! Congrats on yours!
Bingo! The women I have loved; we were equals.
Happy New year..2025 already and we are off and running..
Mmmhhh easy fix with those options..bump the sod off..
Hmm what's for breakfast?..what could I possibly have for my first 2025 brekkie..
Happy New Year!
Creamed beef over toast aka SOS
she already has the oz version of shit on a shingle ...
What's the Oz version? Vegemite on toast?
Morning...
You're simply the best..
Better than all the rest..
And we are off for a flying start to 2025..
wishing you the happiest of a new year in oz ...
it almost sounds more appetizing as SOS ...
Morning... Happy New Year to you and the rest of the mob across the Pacific...🦘🦘
Wishing you a HNY from the land of Oz.
I approve of the English Muffins
Morning... can't have one with out the other..
It's like having a pie without tomato sauce.. absolute sacrilege here..
Or worse a bbq snag (sausage) onion is optional, without sauce... that could just about cause a riot or WW3...
None of this mustard stuff that you mob seem to plaster on everything... from hot dogs to hamburgers..
ketchup on a hotdog is sacrilege. it only belongs on cheeseburgers ...
Cheese burger that's Macca's crap... wouldn't even give it stomach room..
If you have a hamburger you get one with the lot from a fish and chip shop...
Toasted bun without sugar in it... BBQ sauce... lettuce cheese egg bacon a real meat patty tomato beetroot onion and for the adventurous a slice of pineapple...
And you really do need two hands to eat it..
Sigh..not my photo...and no you don't need fries with it...
Except for the egg on top that looks like an awesome burger (although I'd likely sub relish and mayo in and lose the BBQ sauce)
... you're bloody bonkers mate. french fries are chips, cookies are biscuits, and potato chips are crisps. then to top it all off, you smear refrigerated grasshopper food on toast and call it breakfast, while tossing a fried egg on every entree served from lunch to dinner.
you'll notice how many popular english restaurants there are here in the states, and the alleged chain of oz restaurants are barely one rung above having a drive up window. it makes a sane person wonder about any kind of cuisine that comes from a large island.
Arvo..Oz restaurants??
No doubt some American creation after Croc Dundee was shown..and you fell for it..😁
Better than putting flipping pickles and gerkins in everything you mob can get your hands on...gross..
You want Vegemite with that ..🤣
... bloody right. outback steak house or bloomin' onions ring any bells?
Never heard of it.. outback steak house??
American created Australian themed.. enough said..founded in Florida..
So other words American through and through..not even the flies would be genuine..
If it was real Aussie they would have Vegemite..
Vegemite.. I don't think They have that
But they have great steaks, awesome rolls, blooming onions and cold beer
Hate to tell you but have never ever heard of blooming onions..never seen them here and no one would even know what they were...seems this mob don't have a clue and make it up as they go..
I had to google it and pass.. wouldn't eat it if you paid me..heart attack waiting to happen..
Authentic Aussie food is nothing like the tucker you mob seem to cop over there..
The closest we have is onion rings which I don't eat..
I think that's what they use to lubricate any kitchen machinery here in the US ...
See you got an Aussie tang to your food and you didn't even know it..
The US today tomorrow the world..🦘
mmmmmmmmmmmmm, onion rings....
there used to be a burger stand in a sketchy neighborhood here a few decades ago that had the best onion rings in a 500 mile radius. 4 or 5 rings was a meal by itself.
I love a good onion ring. Can't remember the last time I had one
they were worth catching a slug back in the 80's, in the daylight ...
Me neither and now I have a hankering for some. Think I'll drop into the Dairy Queen for an order tomorrow
Do they have real onion rings? Burger King has awful rings. They're just minced onion mixed in a batter
the proliferation of fake onion rings is why I never order them anymore ...
smart
Lol real enough to give you 2nd degree burns as the hot onion slice slips out of the ring and lands on your lower lip and chin
Yeah I'm not a fan of those either, even the batter tastes odd
... chips
I also don't eat onion rings. I've never liked them, but I love the smell while they're cooking, which seems kinda weird.
I had Onion Rings last night and they were da-bomb!
Freshly cut and battered, and fried to order
Yuuuuumm-yuuuumm
Yes onions on a Barbie will bring people around like blowies (blow flies) to and outside dunny..(toilet)..
Lol that's what popcorn is for me, love the smell can't stand the taste
Popcorn is my favorite snack. Once I smell it, I gotta have it.
What am I missing? THIS!!!
I feel nothing (absolutely zero) for these women who voted 'away' their ability to secure a path in life for themselves. The problem comes that such women feel nothing about dragging down their 'sisters' of a different worldview! (And before anybody asks: I feel nothing (absolutely zilch) for blacks who vote away their freedoms, rights, liberties, and opportunities to 'right' the metaphorical boat either.)
'Next' up?
Getting rid of the domestic violence act ASAP. And, then it will be legal to beat the hell out of "her" at will. And, rebuilding of so-called, "affordable housing" AKA: the Projects/Ghettos.
Yep. Things (and minds) were so much simpler back then.
Friend cjcold, I perceive you are being sarcastic (though the tag is missing). That said, things may have actually been more simpler for some people who can speak to it. 'Back then' was living in a version of Hell for people trapped in marginalized groups and circumstances where racists and some conservatives directed and controlled their access to freedoms, rights, and privileges. :)
Wow! Please tell me I’m misunderstanding your meaning here.
I think we all agree that the author of the subject tweet is a piece of shit for insisting he knows with authority what should make women happy. As if women can’t decide for themselves what makes them happy and have the autonomy to make any other decisions that they feel are right or best for them.
Yet here it appears you are berating, or expressing “zero” regard for, some women for how they voted and insisting that your feelings about what they’ve done based on your worldview supersedes their personal decision or reasons for it. What makes you think they voted away their ability to secure the path in life that THEY want? Why do you even presume to know or assume what any woman’s path in life should be? Honestly, how is that attitude any better than the tweeter’s?
I'm sure lots of people would opt for 2nd class citizenship if given the choice. look at how many voted for a criminal/traitor ...
Men wanting women to be property once again & to be happy that way.
That is so broad a generalization as to be absolutely meaningless
A misguided miscreant preacher hardly qualifies as "Men"
Yeah fuck him and the horse he rode in on.
Lol, given his opinion (beliefs) he likely rode in on a dinosaur
I hope his wife cleans his clock in divorce court after he gets caught doing something almost predictable ...
... in the church basement or after bible study group.
Happy New Years to all NT members wherever in the world you may be located!
I'm too lazy to try and think for someone else and run their lives for them. My wife and I are on our 25th year together and we still have our own bank accounts.
Indeed, same here after 36 years!
His last line in the tweet
Allow me to answer.
You are missing the fact that nobody gives a shit what you or me or anyone else thinks will make ladies happy in 2025. What really matters is what each and every woman thinks will make her happy in 2025, and that she will be able to make her happiness a reality.
We make our own happiness
And our own sorrows. It's all a state of mind.
We make our own happiness.
Yup:
“The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven..”
― John Milton, Paradise Lost
No relation to Milton Berle BTW:
uncle milty liked to perform in drag, which those that are most offended by the genre have forgotten ...
Amy Coney Barrett
mackerel snapping brood mare ...
Really? Is that your idea of respect for women, their right to choose what makes them happy, and their individual autonomy to make their own decisions? How is that any better than the asshole who wrote the text that is the subject of this thread?
Hard to conclude that you really care about this subject when you say something like that about a woman who you don’t think meets your standard for what a woman should be, or how she should think.
it may be a woman's right to be submit to 2nd class status, but yeah, I have zero respect for any women that willingly subject themselves religious subservience, and I'll use my right to express that here in the US.
Quick! While it lasts...
It is a woman's right to submit to being a 2nd class citizen, but any woman who expects ME to submit to being a 2nd class citizen is displaying internalized misogyny, and can be expected to be called out on it.
it's just another intellectual fence that most mentally ill-equipped maga choose to straddle, with hilarious results ...
I guarantee that I'll be exercising my first amendment rights as long as I'm breathing ...
There will be Brownshirts to manage the "breathing" part...
I'm not worried bob. I'm a week back into carrying full time and going to an indoor range twice a week.
I wish I could say you're doing the wrong thing... but sadly no.