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An appeal to Women

  
By:  Vic Eldred  •  4 years ago  •  47 comments


An appeal to Women
“I don’t always agree the way he says things, but it is important to him that he speaks directly to the people he serves

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This past Tuesday a lean, soft spoken woman made her way to the podium. She had overcome Covid and had made the journey to the key battleground state of Pennsylvania on behalf of her husband, the President of the United States. It was Melania Trump's first solo campaign stop.

“I don’t always agree the way he says things, but it is important to him that he speaks directly to the people he serves,” the first lady said.

How many wives can relate to that?  How many women can separate what benefits them and or their families from someone's demeanor?  The difference between style and policy. To be able to say I think the man has done a good job, benefitted America and he was transparent, though crude in his way. Are women able to think for themselves?  Or have they been intimidated?

The not-so soft spoken Tammy Bruce said it another way:

“A Bully’s Deal: If You Ever Think For Yourself and Don’t Conform, We’ll Ruin Your Life.”

This slogan has been operational for a generation. It is shouted at conservative women, gays and other minorities because, you see, today’s Democrats cannot afford to have anyone in any of their protected classes get the idea that they can think for themselves. What would happen should women come to realize conservatives aren’t out to get them, but maybe, just maybe, actually have the plan to make their lives better?

The gobsmacking hypocrisy of liberals and feminists who strut around still claiming to represent women, gays and minorities while being their worst enemy, has been exposed for all to see."

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/26/conservative-women-are-smeared-by-liberals/


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    4 years ago

Four more years, Ladies!



No vile cartoons or caricatures.

 
 
 
lady in black
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2  lady in black    4 years ago

Nope

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3  JohnRussell    4 years ago

Melania Trump lost me forever when she disrespected Christmas

“I'm working…my ass off on the Christmas stuff, that you know. Who gives a fuck about the Christmas stuff and decorations?
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3    4 years ago

Oh, is that what did it for you?  I see....

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    4 years ago

I had no respect for her before that.  That 'who gives a fuck about Christmas . . . ' was just some more icing on the cake.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.1    4 years ago

Evidently, that is where John drew the line.

As for me I draw lines when I hear a woman who went to Ivy league schools say: “For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country”

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    4 years ago

What does former First Lady Michelle Obama have to do with this?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    4 years ago
“I don’t always agree the way he says things, but it is important to him that he speaks directly to the people he serves,”the first lady said.

She doesn't always agree with a pathological liar ?  That sounds like a mighty low bar to clear. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4    4 years ago

You have said that hundreds of times, but have failed to prove it even once.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    4 years ago

You are joking , right Vic ? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.1    4 years ago

I'm deadly serious, John.

Please don't google something. Give us your own example of  "a lie."

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.2    4 years ago

Well , then I feel tremendously sorry for you Vic, how's that? 

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JohnRussell
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4.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.2    4 years ago
Please don't google something. Give us your own example of  "a lie."

No Vic, I am not going to dignify your "game". 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    4 years ago
how's that? 

To me, it means you have no examples.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.4    4 years ago
dignify

That's funny.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.5    4 years ago

It means I am not going to play your game.   I suspect you have seen many examples of Trump lying in the past 5 years,  if you havent processed that material, well, it's not my problem. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.1.8  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.4    4 years ago

In a survey of unbiased opinions, your opinions rarely pass the threshold truth or relevance, and are not taken seriously

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.9  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    4 years ago

Why did you delete the meme Vic ? Are you that scared of the truth ? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.7    4 years ago
I suspect you have seen many examples of Trump lying in the past 5 years

Yet you can't provide a single example?  And you spent most of your time on NT making that claim!

I think you owe this President an apology.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.9    4 years ago
Why did you delete the meme Vic ?

Post # 1 :  No vile cartoons or caricatures.


Are you that scared of the truth ? 

Smears & slogans are not "truth!'  You and other should know better.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.10    4 years ago

lol vic. keep digging. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.12    4 years ago

You can't speak to the article and you can't back up your claims.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.14  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.13    4 years ago

You must be a masochist to keep posting articles that are so easily and so successfully disputed .

How many wives can relate to that?  How many women can separate what benefits them and or their families from someone's demeanor?  The difference between style and policy. To be able to say I think the man has done a good job, benefitted America and he was transparent, though crude in his way. Are women able to think for themselves?  Or have they been intimidated

American woman voters have abandoned Trump in massive droves, according to almost all current polling. The intelligent way to approach it would be to identify what Trump is doing wrong and try to stop doing it. The articles you seed make the assumption Trump is right and all his critics and all his opposition is wrong and or un-American.

You are far right, and you think Trump is doing a great job on policy. Sorry to say, a lot of people oppose a lot of trump's policies and whether or not those policies are "good" is all in the eye of the beholder. 

But Trump is not unfit for office because of his policies (in most cases) , he is unfit for office because he is a horrible human being who can no longer be allowed to represent the people of this country.  He lies, he cheats, he is a crook, he is completely self-absorbed, he has no decency. 

America is tired of the shit we hear constantly from this man's defenders.  He has to go. If he somehow miraculously wins Tuesday we will be heading into uncharted territory of complete national turmoil. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.14    4 years ago
articles that are so easily and so successfully disputed .

I'll let you know if you ever come close.


American woman voters have abandoned Trump in massive droves, according to almost all current polling. 

There are two things wrong with that statement.

A) In the last election Donald Trump was supported by a majority of (at least) white women.

B) In the last election the polling was wrong and to date the pollsters have done little to find out why and/or fix the problem.


You are far right

I disagree. I think I'm where most Americans are at. I think you're far left. I guess we have to disagree on where we are and where the nation is.


and you think Trump is doing a great job on policy.

Yes, you've got me there!


Sorry to say, a lot of people oppose a lot of trump's policies and whether or not those policies are "good" is all in the eye of the beholder. 

Correct!  If you are Conservative you like what he's done. If you are Progressive you don't. That's what it's about, John!


 he is unfit for office because he is a horrible human being

John, that's meaningless.


If he somehow miraculously wins Tuesday

It would be a kind of miracle, wouldn't it? That he could again defy all the forces of the media and the DC establishment, all that Wall Street money now placed on the empty head of Joe Biden, the big blue states that start off every election already colored blue, the censorship by social media of anything that could hurt Biden and let us not forget the epic legal contest that comes with all the mail-in voting promoted by democrats.

Can lightning strike twice, John?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5  Tessylo    4 years ago

The only one the 'president' serves is himself.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5    4 years ago

I guess that settles it.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6  Tessylo    4 years ago

A 'lean' soft spoken woman?  What the huh?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @6    4 years ago

You disagree with that?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
6.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tessylo @6    4 years ago
A 'lean' soft spoken woman?

Well I'm sure he said the same nice things about Michelle Obama, right? /s

'Lean' aka anorexic coke addicted skin mag model.

I love the added "No vile cartoons or caricatures" he added, too bad they did didn't feel the same with the last first lady that they regularly mocked and posted hateful bigoted cartoons of her and her family as apes, dressed in black panther fatigues or pictures they tried to claim showed she had a dick. But when it comes to their Aryan princess they bow to her like servile eunuchs.

It's also hilarious to hear them claim that conservative women just want "to think for themselves" by claiming a woman's place in society is to be subservient to their husbands in all things. It's quite the twisted logic. And the fact is no one is shouting anything at "at conservative women, gays and other minorities" except for conservatives pushing the "conform to our conservative ideals or you're an un-American Godless baby killing heretic" message.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2    4 years ago

"Well I'm sure he said the same nice things about Michelle Obama, right? /s"

Well there's this:  "As for me I draw lines when I hear a woman who went to Ivy league schools say: “For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country”

'Lean' aka anorexic coke addicted skin mag model.

I love the added "No vile cartoons or caricatures" he added, too bad they did didn't feel the same with the last first lady that they regularly mocked and posted hateful bigoted cartoons of her and her family as apes, dressed in black panther fatigues or pictures they tried to claim showed she had a dick. But when it comes to their Aryan princess they bow to her like servile eunuchs.

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2    4 years ago
'Lean' aka anorexic coke addicted skin mag model.

She is lean and she was a model, but the claim that our First Lady was a coke addict requires clear substantiated proof. 

Before you drag a decent WOMAN through the mud, what of her request of women voters?  You know, the topic. I realize you've been spoiled a bit, smearing people as this or that, but how about an honest conversation on, well, anything?


I love the added "No vile cartoons or caricatures"

I'm glad you did. I had a few people in mind when I posted that.


It's also hilarious to hear them claim that conservative women just want "to think for themselves"

I think you mean you are scared of such a thought. Please tell me I'm wrong.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2    4 years ago

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Tessylo
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6.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.2    4 years ago

Decent woman?  That's funny.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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6.2.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.2    4 years ago
the claim that our First Lady was a coke addict requires clear substantiated proof

I didn't call her coke addicted, I said the supposed "lean" look is really that of an "anorexic coke addicted skin mag model", which as anyone can see, it is.

Here's an example...

kate-moss-main.jpg

It's a specific type of "look" that yes, is usually followed by revelations of drug addiction.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.3    4 years ago

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Vic Eldred
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6.2.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2.5    4 years ago
I didn't call her coke addicted

You certainly did:  'Lean' aka anorexic coke addicted skin mag model. 

You clearly made "lean" synonymous with anorexic coke addicted skin mag model.


It's a specific type of "look" that yes, is usually followed by revelations of drug addiction.

Not every model is an addict.  Btw to say that would be a sweeping generalization, right?


The picture comes down because it proves nothing and I asked in Post # 1 that there would be no caricatures, remember?


Any interest in what our First Lady actually said?


 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.2.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.7    4 years ago
Any interest in what our First Lady actually said?

Nope . No more so than I am interested in what any rich, pampered, psychologically isolated person has to say. 

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Dismayed Patriot
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6.2.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.7    4 years ago
You clearly made "lean" synonymous with anorexic coke addicted skin mag model.

Yes. And whoever wrote the above description of her called her 'lean', not I.

Not every model is an addict.

True, but many who look thinner than starving children in third world countries and have that hollow look in their eyes are.

Any interest in what our First Lady actually said?

Her hollow words are just regurgitated conservative hog slop written for her to read off a teleprompter, just like her empty rhetoric condemning bullies while condoning and supporting her husband, the biggest bully in America who regularly throws out personal insults and makes up derogatory names for anyone that displeases him or doesn't bow down to him.

The claim that conservative women are "shouted at" for thinking for themselves is pure twisted conservative propaganda. Where are these people "shouting at" conservative women? Outside Planned Parenthoods? Oh, wait, that's conservative women shouting at liberal and progressive women who are "thinking for themselves". And to try and co-opt the lgtbq community or other minorities in this claim is truly sick. Conservative women, along with their conservative husbands, have been fighting against gay rights for as long as we've been a country and they are still trying to repeal the right of gay marriage, fighting the rights of gays to adopt and fighting for their right to deny gays service in their businesses, yet here they are saying they stand with the gay community? What kind of twisted fucking logic is that?

So no, her message was total bullshit rhetoric penned by bigoted white house staffers who are desperately trying to appeal to "suburban women" by driving a wedge between "centrist white Christian women" and progressive women who fight for equality. They are doing this because they know they are losing and losing big among virtually all women other than that thin slice of ultra-conservative women who were voting the way their husbands told them to because they've been brain washed to think that's what their God wants them to do, it has nothing to do with "thinking for themselves".

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2.9    4 years ago
Yes.

Then end of story!


True

Yup, end of story!


Her hollow words are just regurgitated conservative hog slop written for her to read off a teleprompter, just like her empty rhetoric condemning bullies while condoning and supporting her husband, the biggest bully in America who regularly throws out personal insults and makes up derogatory names for anyone that displeases him or doesn't bow down to him.

We shall see if those words resonate with the targeted audience.


The claim that conservative women are "shouted at" for thinking for themselves is pure twisted conservative propaganda. 

I think women who are pro-Life might agree with me.  Were they allowed in "the women's march?"


 They are doing this because they know they are losing and losing big among virtually all women other than that thin slice of ultra-conservative women who were voting the way their husbands told them to because they've been brain washed to think that's what their God wants them to do, it has nothing to do with "thinking for themselves".

That sounds like another sweeping generalization. Funny how certain individuals who wanted that as part of the Coc, do it so often!

Readers take note.


 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.2.11  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.8    4 years ago

Taunting, trolling, spam [Vic Eldred]

Utterly ridiculous. The meme I posted is a comment on Melania and Donald Trump. 

No one else on Newstalkers tries to control the methods of expression people use like you do. 

And you fail because people do not respect your methods. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.11    4 years ago
And you fail because people do not respect your methods.

I succeed because I'm honest and fair. I've been more than tolerant with the likes of you.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7  Tessylo    4 years ago

You couldn't just say the first 'lady'?  It's odd.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @7    4 years ago

There are a lot of "odd things" happening in these parts, Tess.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1    4 years ago

Which/what 'parts'?  

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Vic Eldred
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7.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.1    4 years ago
Which/what 'parts'?  

Right here in River City

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.2    4 years ago

So is that where you live?  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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8  author  Vic Eldred    4 years ago

Back in a few.

CLOSED until then!

 
 

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