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What If I Were to Tell You COVID Cases Would Be Declining Nationally If Not For One State

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  4 years ago  •  50 comments

By:   Matt Vespa

What If I Were to Tell You COVID Cases Would Be Declining Nationally If Not For One State
COVID cases nationally would be declining if it weren’t for one state: California. Both New York and California have become the Mecca and Medina for this virus. New York, by far, has a higher death rate and the number of infections than the red state outbreaks that the media tries to pass off as similar in size and scope. It’s not. For starters, in most red states, their COVID outbreaks are part of a first wave that never touched them back in the spring.

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So if not for California covid cases would be declining nationally.  California and New York are the hardest hit places.  Total cases in California and total deaths in New York top those lists. The irony is that the places with the most demanding of mask mandates and the harshest lockdowns are the hardest hit by the China Virus .  In California the rural areas got hit by our first wave of the virus and just as we were going to go to purple and have the state come down upon us for our anti mask anti lockdown attitude but the big urban areas got hit by the 2nd wave and are far worse off than we are so they have to take care of the big cities and we escaped their control. 


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We had a spike in COVID cases over the Thanksgiving holiday. No shock due to the millions who traveled to see their families, which is not an act of evil, a narrative the liberal media peddled for days. People were going to travel, folks. We’re pandemic-fatigued. And it’s Thanksgiving. This was bound to happen. So, now that the holiday season is drawing to a close—are we still in the midst of a COVID spike? If you watch CNN and MSNBC, well, you’d think half the population contracted it over Christmas. Not the case, in fact, COVID cases nationally would be declining if it weren’t for one state: California. 

Both New York and California have become the Mecca and Medina for this virus. New York, by far, has a higher death rate and the number of infections than the red state outbreaks that the media tries to pass off as similar in size and scope. It’s not. For starters, in most red states, their COVID outbreaks are part of a first wave that never touched them back in the spring. At the same time, that doesn’t mean as a governor you don’t force facilities housing those who are most susceptible to die from COVID to accept such patients, which led to the deaths of thousands of people. Almost half of all COVID deaths in the US come from nursing homes.

And this isn’t conservative media or Fox News making this point about California. It’s the Mercury News :


As other regions of the country finally see some relief from the insidious coronavirus, California’s surge has grown so large it now claims a dark distinction in the nation’s outbreak: Without the Golden State, U.S. numbers would be dropping.
That’s according to The COVID Tracking Project at The Atlantic, which analyzes data from across the country.

Politico has more on the spike: 


America's most populous state has become one of the nation's worst epicenters for the disease, setting new records for cases, hospitalizations and deaths almost every day. Things are so bad in Southern California that some patients are being treated in hospital tents, while doctors have begun discussing whether they need to ration care.

The turnabout has confounded leaders and health experts. They can point to any number of reasons that contributed to California's surge over the past several weeks. But it is hard to pinpoint one single factor — and equally hard to find a silver bullet.

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“If we have a surge on top of a surge," she added, "we will definitely break."

At more than 100 new daily cases per 100,000 residents, California’s case rate is second only to that in Tennessee, according to the nonprofit tracking site Covid Act Now — though it's a state that does not mandate mask wearing and allows indoor gatherings of up to 10 people. The website Covid Exit Strategy shows a 97 percent rise in Covid throughout California, which has gone in the opposite direction from its West Coast counterparts, Oregon and Washington.

In Los Angeles, officials have said all along that people were gathering too often. They blamed celebrations and postseason viewing parties when the Dodgers and Lakers won championships this fall.

Some have blamed the strict rules themselves, saying that cooped-up Californians couldn't take it any longer and decided they need to live their lives. Others have said congregant settings remain a severe concern in a housing-constrained state, especially in low-income communities where residents live in tight quarters and must continue to work in-person to survive.

Again, it’s an airborne virus. It will spread. But we’re missing positives here. Besides California, cases are dropping. It’s still a virus where the vast majority, 90+ percent, will recover—and that’s across all age groups .

I contracted COVID in late November. It was no picnic, but I got better. Some people only have a runny nose. Some go to the hospital, unfortunately. 

Myles Garrett, defensive end for the Cleveland Browns and the number one overall pick in the 2017 NFL Draft, had a horrible bout with the virus. Chris Collingsworth noted that he was working with a respiratory therapist to get his lung capacity back to pre-COVID levels for good reason; the Browns season isn’t done. They have a shot to make the postseason. 

And then, there’s Baltimore quarterback Lamar Jackson, who rushed for 94 yards against the Dallas Cowboys in his first game back on December 8. He accounted for nearly one-third of the rushing yards the Ravens had against the Cowboys. They ran all over them. Jackson did say in the post-game interview that he still couldn’t taste or smell. It impacts everyone differently, but the good news is most will recover. 

Also, and I don’t mean to marginalize the tragedy that has befallen the families of the 300,000+ Americans who have died from COVID, but a huge chunk of the fatalities would have died from something else in the very near future. Now, a new study suggests that’s not the case. I’ll let you all debate that, but the prolonged lockdown measures and their impacts have killed more people than COVID. The liberal media hysteria has been more damaging than the virus as well.

Go down the line. Every bit of advice, or warming, has been wrong. The mask advice was botched from the start. Contracting it through surfaces has vanished from the news cycle. Schools will become mini mortuaries as reopening schools is akin to the Death March to Bataan. All wrong. 

Bars and restaurants account for only 1.4 percent of COVID spread in New York. We have two vaccines now. They’ve been approved and are being distributed. Light is at the end of the tunnel and we can thank President Donald Trump for that. 


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    4 years ago

It impacts everyone differently, but the good news is most will recover. 

Also, and I don’t mean to marginalize the tragedy that has befallen the families of the 300,000+ Americans who have died from COVID, but a huge chunk of the fatalities would have died from something else in the very near future. Now, a new study suggests that’s not the case. I’ll let you all debate that, but the prolonged lockdown measures and their impacts have killed more people than COVID. The liberal media hysteria has been more damaging than the virus as well.

Go down the line. Every bit of advice, or warming, has been wrong. The mask advice was botched from the start. Contracting it through surfaces has vanished from the news cycle. Schools will become mini mortuaries as reopening schools is akin to the Death March to Bataan. All wrong. 

Bars and restaurants account for only 1.4 percent of COVID spread in New York. We have two vaccines now. They’ve been approved and are being distributed. Light is at the end of the tunnel and we can thank President Donald Trump for that. 
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XXJefferson51
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1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    4 years ago

Sad but true...

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CJZUl-_n-2u/?igshid=1j1y2h0ifjlc0

 
 
 
Kavika
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2  Kavika     4 years ago

Yesterday in the US we had 201,555 new COVID cases, 3725 deaths, and 125,000 hospitalized with COVID.

Congressman-elect (R) Luke Letlow died from COVID, he was 41 years old with no known underlying conditions. 

Florida had 12,075 new COVID cases and 105 deaths. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Kavika @2    4 years ago

Yes it’s still bad.  But this time we have more methods of treatment and the vaccines are already here.  

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    4 years ago
But this time we have more methods of treatment and the vaccines are already here.

Approximately 3,000 people per day are dying from COVID. Treating the virus is not enough.

Vaccine rollout by Operation Warp Speed is an abject failure.  They, themselves, said 20 million vaccines by the end of December, in reality we are looking at 2.1 million.

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.2  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    4 years ago
Yes it’s still bad.  But this time we have more methods of treatment and the vaccines are already here.  

It's very bad and it will probably get worse. Vaccines are here but the distribution is lacking. (that is being kind)

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.1    4 years ago

It is the states that are doing the distribution with in each one, according to their priorities and rules.  Maybe in three weeks Biden can try to federalize the distribution process and really screw it all up. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Veronica @2.1.3    4 years ago

Too late for that deception. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.6  Ozzwald  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.4    4 years ago
It is the states that are doing the distribution with in each one, according to their priorities and rules.

You haven't looked into it, have you?  Your statement is the height of ignorance.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.7  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.6    4 years ago

Actually I have, thus what I wrote above.  

 ... Part of the explanation for the significant difference between the number of vaccine doses distributed and administrated is due to reporting delays. Obviously, federal authorities do not administer the shots. Local health bureaucracies do it. And they are not always reporting in a timely fashion.

But given everything that we’ve seen this year, is it possible that Democrat states like California, Illinois and Michigan are slow walking the administration of the vaccine to promote the left’s narrative of Trump’s incompetence?  Will they miraculously speed up vaccinations after the inauguration so that Biden gets the credit?

I hate to be so cynical, but that seems like a plausible explanation to me.

Yesterday, White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany responded to the criticism, saying:

“President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed has developed safe and effective vaccines 5 times faster than any similar effort in history, and he has already made the vaccines free for all Americans. Nearly 20 million first doses have been allocated to states for immediate delivery and administration at their direction. . .

“The President has used the Defense Production Act 18 times in connection with Operation Warp Speed and will continue to employ it wherever possible to accelerate vaccine manufacturing and save lives.”

Every year since 1946, Gallup has asked Americans to name the man they most admire.  For the past 12 years, it has been Barack Obama.  This year, America’s most admired man is President Donald Trump.....

read more: https://dailysurge.com/2020/12/why-delays-gripes-about-vaccine-distribution-arent-white-houses-fault/

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.8  Ozzwald  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.7    4 years ago
Yesterday, White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany  responded  to the criticism, saying: “President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed has developed safe and effective vaccines 5 times faster than any similar effort in history, and he has already made the vaccines free for all Americans. Nearly 20 million first doses have been allocated to states for immediate delivery and administration at their direction. . .

1st lie.  “President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed has developed safe and effective vaccines".  Trump administration did not do anything to develop a vaccine, and in fact Pfizer did not even accept any "Operation Warp Speed" money.

Just another instance of Trump trying to steal credit.

2nd lie:  "he has already made the vaccines free for all Americans", you already said that this was up to the states, make up your mind.

Every year since 1946, Gallup has asked Americans to name the man they most admire.  For the past 12 years, it has been Barack Obama.  This year, America’s most admired man is  President Donald Trump  .

Is that why he is imagining himself as Time's "Man of the Year" and proclaiming that he has won 1 (maybe 2) Nobel Peace Prizes?

The problem with the vaccines is that Trump is more than willing to throw billions of dollars to the pharmaceutical companies, but refuses to assist the states, who with their limited budgets, have already been shouldering most of the costs since the federal government has refused to take any steps in this pandemic.  In case you have forgotten, this pandemic has been declared a national emergency, that means the federal government is supposed to step in and assist the states.  The closest Trump has gotten is paying Florida millions of dollars for his frequent golfing trips.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.1.9  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.7    4 years ago

More parroting from a biased site I see. I wonder if you're capable of producing anything objective or original?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.10  TᵢG  replied to  Gordy327 @2.1.9    4 years ago

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Gordy327
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2.1.11  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.10    4 years ago

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Tessylo
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The Trump Administration Shut a Vaccine Safety Office Last Year. What’s the Plan Now?

The office was dedicated to the long-term safety of vaccines. Experts say plans to track coronavirus vaccines are fragmented and “behind the eight ball.”

President Trump and the Health and Human Services secretary, Alex M. Azar II, who disbanded the National Vaccine Program Office last year. Credit... Al Drago for The New York Times

By  Carl Zimmer

  • Oct. 23, 2020

As the first coronavirus vaccines arrive in the coming year, government researchers will face a monumental challenge: monitoring the health of hundreds of millions of Americans to ensure the vaccines don’t cause harm.

Purely by chance, thousands of vaccinated people will have heart attacks, strokes and other illnesses shortly after the injections. Sorting out whether the vaccines had anything to do with their ailments will be a thorny problem, requiring a vast, coordinated effort by state and federal agencies, hospitals, drug makers and insurers to discern patterns in a flood of data. Findings will need to be clearly communicated to a distrustful public swamped with disinformation.

For now, Operation Warp Speed, created by the Trump administration to spearhead development of coronavirus vaccines and treatments, is focused on getting vaccines through clinical trials in record time and manufacturing them quickly.

The next job will be to monitor the safety of vaccines once they’re in widespread use. But the administration last year quietly disbanded the office with the expertise for exactly this job, merging it into an office focused on infectious diseases. Its elimination has left that long-term safety effort for coronavirus vaccines fragmented among federal agencies, with no central leadership, experts say.

 
 
 
Kavika
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4  Kavika     4 years ago

One fuck up after another by this administration.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Kavika @4    4 years ago

All the screw ups came from China, not from our President.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.1  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1    4 years ago
All the screw ups came from China, not from our President.  

The President's dismal response and attitude towards Covid is his screw up, not China's!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @4.1.1    4 years ago

Wrong...

QUOTE

My Administration will stop at nothing to save lives and shield the vulnerable.

President Donald J. Trump

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

  • Took early action to cut off travel from China
  • Built the world’s leading testing system from nothing
  • Enacted mitigation measures to slow the spread
  • Mobilized public and private sectors to secure needed supplies
  • Took action to protect vulnerable Americans
  • Launched effort to deliver a vaccine and therapeutics in record time
  • Provided support to workers and businesses
  • Paved way for reopening to get America working again
  • Surged resources to hot spots as they arose
  • Confronted China as origin of the virus while Democrats and media cowered
At the outset, President Trump took action to stop travel from China to stem the spread to the United States as long as possible.
  • While Democrats were focused on their impeachment sham, President Trump took swift and decisive action to stop travel from China in January and enhanced airport screenings to help stop cases from coming into the United States as long as possible.
  • In his February 4th State of the Union address, President Trump pledged to “take all necessary steps to safeguard our citizens from the virus,” while the Democrats’ response made not a single mention of the virus or even the threat of China.
President Trump built the world’s leading testing system from nothing, based on a virus we have never faced before.
  • In order to accurately trace and combat this virus, President Trump set out to build the world’s best testing system, and that’s exactly what he did.
  • We have already conducted more than 65 million tests, far outpacing any other country.
As soon as cases began to rise, President Trump released guidance to slow the spread.
  • President Trump released guidance recommending mitigation measures critical to slowing the spread of the virus, and the American people stepped up to do their part.
  • Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx have attested to the fact that President Trump took action as soon as the data was presented to him.
In order to secure the supplies needed to confront the surge in coronavirus we faced, President Trump led the largest mobilization of public and private sector resources since WWII.
  • The President directed his Administration to secure and distribute needed medical supplies to states in need – resulting in billions of PPE delivered so far.
  • At the President’s urging, private companies shifted production to supplying masks, ventilators, hand sanitizer, testing supplies, and more.
  • President Trump has acted under the Defense Production Act more than 30 times to ensure we have the supplies we need.
  • When we faced a potentially catastrophic shortage of ventilators, President Trump took action to produce 100,000 ventilators and ensure no patient who needs one goes without a ventilator.
President Trump moved swiftly to protect vulnerable communities.
  • The Administration quickly established guidelines for nursing homes and expanded telehealth opportunities to protect our vulnerable seniors.
  • The President took action to ensure that uninsured Americans are able to get the COVID-19 care and testing they need.
  • President Trump directed Secretary Carson to focus the White House Opportunity and Revitalization Council on underserved communities impacted by COVID-19.
  • The Administration is investing approximately $2 billion in community health centers, helping their 28 million patients in medically underserved areas receive the care and testing they need.
Early in the fight against the virus, President Trump launched a historic effort to develop a vaccine and therapeutics in record time.
  • President Trump understood early on that in order to defeat this virus once and for all and protect Americans, we need a vaccine and therapeutics.
  • President Trump revolutionized the clinical trial process to ensure Americans get a safe vaccine as quickly as possible, by providing unprecedented investments in leading vaccine candidates to simultaneously produce them as they are tested and developed.
  • Thanks to President Trump’s efforts, coronavirus vaccine trials have progressed at record speeds, with multiple candidates already in or near the final stage of clinical trials.
President Trump responded to the devastating toll the virus took on our businesses and workers and secured unprecedented financial support.
  • The President negotiated and launched the Paycheck Protection Program – helping save 51 million American jobs.
  • President Trump secured direct payments to help the countless Americans who are hurting due to the pandemic.
  • President Trump took executive action to give tax relief to workers, ensure unemployment benefits for those out of work, prevent families from losing their homes to eviction or foreclosure, and provide student debt relief for Americans already hurting due to the virus.
Understanding the harmful toll a never-ending shutdown would have on our Nation, President Trump provided support to help states safely reopen as soon as they were able.
  • As we built out our critical medical supplies, flattened the curve, and rapidly expanded testing, states across the country were able to safely move towards reopening.
  • President Trump ensured they had the data and resources to reopen on the correct timeframe.
As hot spots have emerged, President Trump has surged resources to impacted areas while enabling us to prevent another nationwide shutdown.
  • The President has provided support to states facing new emergences of the virus, including surging testing sites, deploying medical personnel, and advising on mitigation strategies.
While the media and Democrats refuse to do so, President Trump has called out China for its actions to ensure we prevent a similar threat from arising again.
  • President Trump has rightly called out China’s handling of the virus for refusing to be transparent and failing to contain the virus before it spread.
  • The President held the WHO accountable for its egregious bias towards China that jeopardizes the safety of Americans.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-trumps-historic-coronavirus-response/
 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.1.3  Snuffy  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.2    4 years ago

yep. It's sad that the left cannot acknowledge any of the good that the Trump administration has done for the pandemic. But unfortunately that's the way this country has split, if you are not 100% for my side then you are 100% wrong. There's no acknowledgement of grey.

For all the right things that the Trump administration and President Trump has done,  there are a few things IMO he could have done better.

  • He could have not tried to downplay it so much. I understand the attempt to not cause a panic but he could have presented common-sense approaches to protect oneself without causing widespread panic.
  • He could have pushed more social distancing and masks. While a mask is not 100% effective I feel the need to steal a line from the left. If it saves just one life isn't it worth it?
  • He should have communicated to the public better on what the federal government can do and what each state government needed to do. IMO the way this was communicated was a mess and allowed states to play partisan politics with the situation. 
  • He could have been more upfront and transparent in his communications to Congress in any negotiation dealing with the pandemic. President Trump is not an effective public speaker in this regard and there were too many mixed messages which allowed Congress to devolve into partisan politics. I feel that if he were a better communicator and had people who also worked at effectively communicating to the people that more pressure could have been brought on Congress to work for the American people rather than their special interests.
  • I feel his habit of punching back got in the way on his communications also. His constant bashing of China got in the way of effectively communicating to the American people. 
  • He allowed MSM to frame the public interactions. This also goes back to his poor communication skills. The daily Covid briefings were turned into self-promotion stops. If he could communicate better he could have spoken to the American people more effectively. He also should have known when to step back and let the team talk. 

Those are just my thoughts. I still feel that President Trump did a lot of right things in the fight against this pandemic and I feel it's a shame that partisan politics has gotten so large that we can no longer talk about things. Too many people want to just sound important I guess.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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4.1.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.2    4 years ago

Took early action to cut off travel from China

Only Chinese nationals were cut off.  US citizens were allowed to return home, bringing the virus with them.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.1.5  Snuffy  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @4.1.4    4 years ago
US citizens were allowed to return home, bringing the virus with them.

Considering our Bill of Rights I think any administration would have a very tough time (and eventually lose in court) if trying to prevent citizens from returning back into this country. I mean, hell, if he had tried to prevent citizens from coming back into the country then he would have been that dictator that some have accused him of trying to be.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Snuffy @4.1.5    4 years ago

Ah yes, the dictator that set up federal guidelines and let each state respond as they saw fit and even now distributed the vaccine to the states where they decide priorities as to how to distribute it.  Such a federalism dictator!   

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5  seeder  XXJefferson51    4 years ago

So if not for stupid California,  covid cases would be declining nationally.  That’s a hopeful sign. California and New York are by far the hardest hit places.  Total cases in California and total deaths in New York top those lists. The sad irony is that the places with the most demanding of mask mandates and the harshest lockdowns are the hardest hit by the China Virus .  In California the rural areas got hit by our first wave of the virus and just as we were going to go to purple and have the state come down upon us for our righteous anti mask anti lockdown attitude, but the big urban areas got hit by the 2nd wave and are far worse off than we are, so they have to take care of the big cities and we escaped their iron grip Orwellian control. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5    4 years ago
The sad irony is that the places with the most demanding of mask mandates and the harshest lockdowns are the hardest hit by the China Virus .

That is not irony.   Use your brain ... the places with the highest concentration of people (and thus the greater likelihood of infection) will naturally have the strongest push for precautions.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @5.1    4 years ago

And the majority of cases occur at home which is where the pro lockdown fanatics want to force us to stay.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.1    4 years ago

What kind of bizarre logic is this ... are you trying to argue that it is safer if people interact with others in public and spend less time at home?    Think about what point you are trying to make and let's see if you can articulate something sensible.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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5.1.3  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.2    3 years ago
What kind of bizarre logic is this

It's non-logic. It's just downright stupid.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gordy327 @5.1.3    3 years ago

Are you both in denial that over half of all covid cases are initiated at peoples own homes?  

 
 
 
Gordy327
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5.1.5  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.4    3 years ago

Evidence?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.4    3 years ago

Big surprise that you missed the point again.   The point is that you seem to be arguing that it would be healthier for society if people steered clear of their homes:

MAGA @5.1.1And the majority of cases occur at home which is where the pro lockdown fanatics want to force us to stay.

Now that is some screwed up reasoning.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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5.1.7  Gordy327  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.6    3 years ago
Now that is some screwed up reasoning.

No, I would call that just plain paranoid delusion.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.8  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.6    3 years ago

It’s called the truth!  Indoor dining and church attendance are far safer places to not get the disease transmitted than our own home is.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.1.9  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.8    3 years ago

So we should all live in restaurants and churches, eh?   Absolutely brilliant MAGA!   I wonder why Trump (the biggest brain) has not suggested this.

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.2  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @5    4 years ago

Florida recorded 17,192 new COVID cases and 132 death yesterday. The cases and deaths have been climbing every fricking day for the last three weeks. We are now back to where we were this summer. 

Another ignorant article and comments from the author and seeder.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Kavika @5.2    4 years ago
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.@GovRonDeSantis visited Delray today where seniors took their first dose of the Moderna vaccine. Thank you Governor for putting seniors first!
 
 
 
Kavika
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5.2.2  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.2.1    4 years ago

You can't or won't reply to my stats, typical of you MAGA. 

Here is what is happening in Florida. I live here MAGA so don't try to bs me what is happening in Fl.

BTW, DeSantis put seniors (over 65) before essential workers of course that is against CDC guidelines. Over 75 years old was supposed to be the first seniors to get it since they are by far the most vulnerable but DeSantis moved it back to 65 so over 75 will be mixed in the those that are not as vulnerable. 

Florida's first-come, first-serve Covid-19 vaccination plan for the elderly leads to scramble

They had five areas open for vaccines and each only had 300 doses. 

The rollout in some parts of Florida has been a fiasco. 

There are some front-line health care workers that have not received their vaccines. 

In my county as of Tuesday afternoon at 2pm 25,000 seniors have signed up. There are only 3,000 doses available. I don't know how many had signed up as of today. Hopefully the roll out fiasco from the feds will improve. 

Once again you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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5.2.3  Raven Wing  replied to  Kavika @5.2.2    4 years ago
Over 75 years old was supposed to be the first seniors to get it since they are by far the most vulnerable

I wish that applied here in SoCal. They don't tell the Seniors where or how to get the vaccine. Not even the Doctors nor clinics know. Thus, it is useless info. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.2.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Kavika @5.2.2    4 years ago

Hospital and medical workers are first along with skilled care nursing home residents and staff.  I support Florida and Texas and others doing so in giving all over age 65 the vaccine ahead of younger other essential workers.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.2.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Raven Wing @5.2.3    4 years ago

My mom is over 80 and a diabetic and over weight, non self ambulatory.  She’d be in a nursing home if not for a relative and in home services.  I can’t get her the vaccine.  If she were already placed in a convalescent hospital, she’d have already been vaccinated.  

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.2.6  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.2.4    4 years ago

I gave you a link that states that not all healthcare workers have received the vaccine. 

You can support that the hell you want you don't live in Florida and you are not over 75. 

Fricking idiotic comments by someone that has no idea of what is happening in Florida and trying to pretend that they do. Classic.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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6  Paula Bartholomew    4 years ago

I am in CA and am sick to death of the selfish assholes who are infecting the state just to party.  We deserve every adverse comment we get on this one.  At least now we are making arrests and cutting off the utilities at known party houses.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6    4 years ago

All hail the big brother police state! jrSmiley_12_smiley_image.gif

At least in the part of California where I live we are mostly free.  Our law enforcement provides educational services to citizens and businesses.  There is no mask enforcement, no business closure enforcement, no curfew enforcement.  God bless the Shasta County Sheriffs Department and Redding Police Department.  We back the Blue!  

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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6.2  Raven Wing  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6    4 years ago
I am in CA and am sick to death of the selfish assholes who are infecting the state just to party. 

Same here Paula. I live in SoCal, east of Los Angeles out Riverside way. and the a-holes who are trying to recall Gov. Newsome for issuing rules and restrictions that will help keep the virus from spreading and hopefully saving lives.   

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Raven Wing @6.2    4 years ago

I’m about 600 freeway miles away from you in this state and I signed the recall Newsom petition back in August during a local We Back the Blue rally that also served as a keep the economy open and pro Trump event.  Yes,  a Pro Trump region of California!  

 
 
 
Kavika
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6.2.2  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2.1    4 years ago

You supporting a loser is perfect and fitting.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.2.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Kavika @6.2.2    4 years ago

I live in an area that strongly supports keeping the economy open, strongly supports our law enforcement, and voted 2-1 for Trump over Biden.  In this part of California Teump is the most popular political leader since Reagan.  

 
 
 
Kavika
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6.2.4  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2.3    4 years ago

He may be popular in your area but he is a loser to the majority of the country. 

So you keep right on supporting a loser, it puts you in poor company.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.2.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Kavika @6.2.4    4 years ago

I saw the by county maps of 2020 red vs blue and most of the country is red.  We even took back four congressional districts we lost in 2018  in California.  

 
 

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