How do we as a nation take that righteous anger that we are feeling and do something that will make a difference?

First, by praying.

While modern culture is quick to dismiss prayer as weak and ineffective, it is rather a powerful tool. Prayer moves God’s hand.

It offers encouragement, changes circumstances, brings peace, delivers those in need, builds hope, cements courage, and draws us to God.

Prayer has also played a huge part in our nation’s history.

Prayer was the key to breaking a 5-week stalemate in the writing of our founding documents and the creation of our nation’s framework.

In response to the floundering efforts and disagreement, Benjamin Franklin challenged his fellow founders in the Continental Convention of 1787, declaring, “And have we now forgotten that powerful Friend? Or do we imagine we no longer need His assistance? I have lived, sir, a long time and the longer I live, the more convincing proof I see of this truth—that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, it is probable that an empire can rise without His aid?” 

After the period of prayer and fasting, our Constitution was authored—an inspired document that is the longest ongoing Constitution in the history of the world.

The impact of prayer is woven into the fabric of the American people, and that continues to this day. Millions of Americans have been praying for Afghanistan as they’ve watched the events spiral out-of-control, and we’ve seen the power of prayer at work. Stories are emerging on social media of people passing a Taliban checkpoint unchallenged or hiding unnoticed in a building crawling with Taliban. These stories are a testament to God at work.

But in addition to prayer we need to seek ways to take direct, physical action.

The Bible gives us examples of combining prayer and direct action. A very applicable example is found in the book of Esther. When the Jews were in danger of slaughter from the evil plans and deceit of Haman, Esther employed prayer and fasting, then took action to appeal to the King, ultimately saving the Jewish people.

Prayer often tills the soil for direct action to take root. So, let’s pray, but let’s also take action that the world can see.

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This is our time to rise and be the people of prayer and action that America needs.

yeah... so the maga-faithful keep telling us... go for it...

We will do that.  

Prayer and 'action' - whatever that means - doesn't mean/do diddly squat.  

Prayer and 'action' - whatever that means - doesn't mean/do diddly squat.

Indeed. It just makes one feel like they're doing something.

What we need are less assholes on the political right. 

What we need are less assholes on the political right.

I think we need fewer assholes, period.  It just so happens that the vast majority fall on the political right.

The Christian and political right are the salvation of America in theses dark times as we call the nation to reject secularism and its advocates as the enemy of Americas future that they are and return to our founding and to the principles of our founding and exceptional nation through its documents, history, culture, and tradition.  

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The Christian and political right are the salvation of America in theses dark times as we call the nation to reject secularism and its advocates as the enemy of Americas future that they are and return to our founding and to the principles of our founding and exceptional nation through its documents, history, culture, and tradition.  

Change the words christian and America, to muslim and Iraq, and it would work just as well.

No, it would not.  

No it’s not.  There is no invitation to join or become part of anything here.  Besides that term is nothing more than a censorship tool hate filled bigots who walked away from God use to silence the expression of those of us who believe.  With 9-11 20th anniversary coming up there will be many calls for prayer and a return to our roots and foundation both religious and political as a nation and I endorse those calls.  

With 9-11 20th anniversary coming up there will be many calls for prayer and a return to our roots and foundation both religious and political as a nation and I endorse those calls.  

And on 9/12, nothing will have changed. It'll be business as usual.

With 9-11 20th anniversary coming up there will be many calls for prayer and a return to our roots and foundation both religious and political as a nation and I endorse those calls.

What roots are we returning to?  Slavery roots?  Women as 2nd class citizen roots?

Both? After all, slavery and treating women as second class citizens is ok according to the bible.

After all, slavery and treating women as second class citizens is ok according to the bible.

And the original Constitution.

Yeah, with 911 coming up we must be told why the Saudis were allowed to escape.

       "Esther employed prayer"

Not in the Hebrew Bible, any prayers Esther may have delivered were added by the Greeks in the 2nd or 1st centuries BCE as icing. One wonders if these Christians you seed have ever studied let alone read the Bible. If you are any example my guess is not.

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This video is proselytizing. 

Un huh ... God who wrote the Bible said darn and came back 400+ years later to rewrite it because He had a Bidenlike brainfart and left out all the praying to Him parts. No XX, the prayers were not lost in subsequent translations, they were added.

He never wrote the Bible other than the 10 commandments. He inspired the writers of the Bible as His love letter to humanity over time.  The Bible was written in Hebrew Greek and Aramaic and different accounts in Gods message were written at different times.  The Bible, the pointing of the way to salvation was inspired over a long period of time.  The Bible is as God intended it to be.  Period.  

Not in the Hebrew Bible, any prayers Esther may have delivered were added by the Greeks in the 2nd or 1st centuries BCE as icing.  

What you are referring to is that, in the Hebrew (Masoretic) text, there is no text of a prayer by Esther recorded, whereas in the Septuagint and other Greek translations, such texts appear. However, pointing out this fact doesn’t discredit the quote from the article you pointed out because even in the Masoretic text, while a specific prayer is not recorded, it would be understood without question by any Jew or Christian who studied the Bible that Esther employed prayer. Your error is you didn’t consider enough of the text you quoted. To properly quote the article so as not to change the context it should have been... 

Esther employed prayer and fasting... 

While one could pray without fasting, fasting was never done without prayer. Fasting was done in aid of prayer and, in fact, would be pointless without it. So, even in the Masoretic text, we see that not only did Esther pray, she did so for three days and nights.  

One wonders if these Christians you seed have ever studied let alone read the Bible. If you are any example my guess is not. 

Some points for you to consider. 

1. Old Testament portions of Protestant Bibles are based on the Masoretic text, therefore, the extra six chapters that appear in the Septuagint do not appear in them. 
2. Old Testament portions of Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches are based on the Septuagint and, therefore, have the extra six chapters. 
3. A little bit of research reveals that the author of the article is a Protestant and so would ascribe to the Masoretic version of Esther.  
4. One bio of him reveals that he authored a book on prayer so it would be a strain on credulity to think he isn’t aware that prayer and fasting go together. 
5. The Masoretic text makes it clear that Esther fasted for three days and nights, which any student of the Bible would understand as including prayer.  
6. Based on the points above, any misunderstanding concerning the Book of Esther or what was said in the article seems to be mostly on your part rather than on the author's or Jefferson's part.  

Thanks for adding this .  I appreciate it!  

You're welcome. 

Fasting?

More 1776 BS?

The Constitutional Convention

The Constitutional Convention assembled in Philadelphia in May of 1787. The delegates shuttered the windows of the State House and swore secrecy so they could speak freely. Although they had gathered to revise the Articles of Confederation, by mid-June they had decided to completely redesign the government. There was little agreement about what form it would take.

One of the fiercest arguments was over congressional representation—should it be based on population or divided equally among the states? The framers compromised by giving each state one representative for every 30,000 people in the House of Representatives and two representatives in the Senate. They agreed to count enslaved Africans as three-fifths of a person. Slavery itself was a thorny question that threatened to derail the Union. It was temporarily resolved when the delegates agreed that the slave trade could continue until 1808.

Writing the Constitution

After three hot summer months of equally heated debate, the delegates appointed a Committee of Detail to put its decisions in writing. Near the end of the convention, a Committee of Style and Arrangement kneaded it into its final form, condensing 23 articles into seven in less than four days.

On September 17, 1787, 38 delegates signed the Constitution. George Reed signed for John Dickinson of Delware, who was absent, bringing the total number of signatures to 39. It was an extraordinary achievement. Tasked with revising the existing government, the delegates came up with a completely new one. Wary about centralized power and loyal to their states, they created a powerful central government. Representing wildly different interests and views, they crafted compromises. It stands today as one of the longest-lived and most emulated constitutions in the world.

Ratification

The founders set the terms for ratifying the Constitution. They bypassed the state legislatures, reasoning that their members would be reluctant to give up power to a national government. Instead, they called for special ratifying conventions in each state. Ratification by 9 of the 13 states enacted the new government. But at the time, only 6 of 13 states reported a pro-Constitution majority.

The Federalists, who believed that a strong central government was necessary to face the nation’s challenges, needed to convert at least three states. The Anti-Federalists fought hard against the Constitution because it created a powerful central government that reminded them of the one they had just overthrown, and it lacked a bill of rights.

The ratification campaign was a nail-biter. The tide turned in Massachusetts, where the “vote now, amend later” compromise helped secure victory in that state and eventually in the final holdouts.

The Constitution: How Did it Happen? | National Archives

Great job...they codified slavery as 3/5 of a person, legal through 1808.  Angels on their shoulders?

These people were

all three bottle a day alcoholics of legendary status ( because it was safer than drinking the water )

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Were The Founding Fathers Alcoholics? Here’s Their INSANE Bar Tab From 2 Days Before Signing The Constitution

All the way back in 1787, two nights prior to signing the Constitution, 55 delegates went out drinking and because we here in America have a great history of keeping copies of  outrageous bar tabs  for the public record we know just how much booze those 55 delegates drank that night before signing the Constitution two days later.

How do we know the founding fathers as a group drank a lot? Well, for one thing, we have records of their imbibing. In 1787, two days before they signed off on the Constitution, the 55 delegates to the Constitutional Convention partied at a tavern. According to the bill preserved from the evening, they drank 54 bottles of Madeira, 60 bottles of claret, eight of whiskey, 22 of porter, eight of hard cider, 12 of beer and seven bowls of alcoholic punch.

That’s more than two bottles of fruit of the vine, plus a few shots and a lot of punch and beer, for every delegate. Clearly, that’s humanly impossible. Except, you see, across the country during the Colonial era, the average American consumed many times as much beverage alcohol as contemporary Americans do. Getting drunk – but not losing control – was simply socially accepted.

Were The Founding Fathers Alcoholics? Here's Their INSANE Bar Tab From 2 Days Before Signing The Constitution - BroBible

8 Founding Fathers’ Insane Drinking Habits

George Washington

Washington was a regular drinker -- oftentimes a bottle of Madeira at night, accompanied by rum, punch, or beer -- though that was relatively temperate for those days. But he could bring it when it counted. He once consumed enough “Fish House Punch” that he couldn’t bring himself to even mention it by name in his diary for three days. His expenditures for alcohol in 1775 were 1,000% higher than the average upkeep for the habit. He spent a full 7% of his income while in office on booze. His infamous farewell party tab totaled over $15,000 present-day dollars. He had to change out his teeth because they would become stained with brandy and wine. His estate, according to the estimable Modern Drunkard , was at one point America’s biggest whiskey producer, bottling (barreling?) an astonishing 11,000 gallons in 1799 alone.

read more at

Drinking Habits of Founding Fathers of America - Thrillist

In response to the floundering efforts and disagreement, Benjamin Franklin challenged his fellow founders in the Continental Convention of 1787, declaring, “And have we now forgotten that powerful Friend? Or do we imagine we no longer need His assistance? I have lived, sir, a long time and the longer I live, the more convincing proof I see of this truth—that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, it is probable that an empire can rise without His aid?” 

After the period of prayer and fasting, our Constitution was authored—an inspired document that is the longest ongoing Constitution in the history of the world.

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we the people praise and thank God for all He did to bring our exceptional Christian nation into being!  

Christian nation

The concept of a "Christian nation" is a falsehood promoted by theocratic dominionists who seek to impose their religion as the law over our secular country.  It is an expression of total bigotry.  Very Taliban-like.

It was founded as a Christian nation with a God affirming founding document and a neutral between the religions secular government.  Without a just and religious people our government and our republic will fail as the founders said.  As soon as we cease to be a religious nation we cease to be an exceptional nation and may very well be gone under as Reagan said.  Our country if it ever actually abandons religion and walks away from God and His values will no longer deserve to be blessed or to even exist.  It will change greatly in its nature before the end of time and we are fighting a loosing battle to buy time for people to deal with it before tribulation comes.  

It was founded as a Christian nation

Demonstrably false!

Without a just and religious people our government and our republic will fail as the founders said.

We did have a civil war, didn't we. Funny how most people at the time were likely relgious.

As soon as we cease to be a religious nation we cease to be an exceptional nation and may very well be gone under as Reagan said.

So you believe that simply because Reagan said it?

Our country if it ever actually abandons religion and walks away from God and His values will no longer deserve to be blessed or to even exist.  It will change greatly in its nature before the end of time and we are fighting a loosing battle to buy time for people to deal with it before tribulation comes.

Paranoid delusion. 

It was founded as a Christian nation

Absolutely false.  That comment is historical revisionist propaganda in support of theocratic dominionist tyranny.

As for the rest of Comment 6.1 2, Gordy stated it accurately:  Paranoid delusion.

That comment is historical revisionist propaganda in support of theocratic dominionist tyranny.

It's also a flat out lie. And I thought religious people were supposed to be honest.

It is most certainly a flat out lie.  Extremist propagandists who make religious appeals are not generally recognized as honest.

They were a mixture of deists, Free Masons and Christians. There is a movement among Hebrew scholars to "clarify"

Alexander Hamilton's Jewishness.

Secular progressivism is the American Taliban.  They are more discriminating against, intolerant of, and censoring of American Christians than the Taliban itself is. 

The secular progressive left are to American Christians what the Taliban is to that nations Christians.  

and yet here you are...

No large group of people are killing large groups of people in this country over religious beliefs

or lack there of,

PLEASE

stop making ignorant comparisons of alleged victimization.

Your very own soul's afterlife may depend on it.

"With 9/11 Coming Up, Americans Need Prayer, Fasting And Direct Action"

Isn't that exactly what caused 9/11? Just a different faith praying to the other side of the same God and taking "direct action" in his name?"

Just a different faith praying to the other side of the same God and taking "direct action" in his name?"

Isn't that the root cause of many instances of terrorism?

We will promote our founding fathers, our 1776 founding, the founding documents, and our exceptional nations history and traditions as long as we have this republic.  Despite not being perfect they were very enlightened and moved us in a great direction and gave us the tools to build a more perfect Union.  They did rely upon prayer to resolve impasses which was very wise on their part.  God has richly blessed the exceptional nation they founded by His divine Providence.  

The difference is that we Christians are not advocating violence as part of direct action unlike the Islamic fascist extremists American secularists make excuses for and accuse other Americans of being like.  

The difference is that we Christians are not advocating violence

Yet many of you cling to your guns and often proclaim "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

We saw a mob of right wing conservative Christians attack our Capital on January 6th, attacking police with flag poles and pepper spray. And many conservative right wing tweets and social media posts have advocated violence against their fellow Americans simply because they didn't share your faith or ideology.

"unlike the Islamic fascist extremists American secularists"

There is no such thing as a religious fascist "secularist", that is a complete contradiction of terms.

However, I have heard many right wing religious conservatives even here on NT, some closer than you might think, advocating violence against "secularists" or calling them some combination of "evil" or "Satan" which obviously invites violence from religious extremists.

"We will promote our founding fathers, our 1776 founding"

Ah, of course, because it's so much more convenient for right wing fascist conservative pieces of shit to ignore any prior American history that doesn't praise them and suck their shriveled white Christian balls.

They did rely upon prayer to resolve impasses which was very wise on their part.

Relying on Christian prayer gave us the Salem witch trials.

"God has richly blessed the exceptional nation they founded by His divine Providence."

Sure, sure, your "God" blessed the genocide of native Americans, slavery, Jim Crow laws and the segregation of non-whites for the majority of American history, misogyny, bigotry, and worthless fucking pieces of shit who imagine themselves better than other Americans because they pray to a specific unproven deity. Try proving your God exists before giving him any credit, because frankly, I don't think the God of the bible would ever want the credit you're trying so hard to give it. It's far more like to say ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ - Matthew 7:23

I ama proud American Patriot, dismayed by the folly of its secular progressive left 

I ama proud American Patriot,

That's not a glowing review of our nation.

dismayed by the folly of its secular progressive left 

Sounds like your problem then.

Nope.  Openly mocking and calling out the ridiculous, the innate stupidity, and raw bigotry that is the secular attitude to toward the believer is a worthwhile endeavor.  Their treatment of and intolerance toward the believer is worthy of a Counter offensive.  

Nope.  Openly mocking and calling out the ridiculous, the innate stupidity, and raw bigotry that is the secular attitude to toward the believer is a worthwhile endeavor.  

Oh, so you admit to trolling then? Got it.

Their treatment of and intolerance toward the believer is worthy of a Counter offensive.

More persecution nonsense and playing the victim. 

Right-wing extremist propaganda often makes an appeal based on a pretense of victimhood.  Comment 7.3.4 is an excellent example.

I admit to no such thing.  I do stand tall for what it is that motivates me in my life even if secularists and progressives lose all sense of rationality and objectivity over it. That’s their bigotry at ply and not my issue.  The persecution of believers by secularists and the targeting of the expression of Why we believe and say what we do is quite real in this world.  

The persecution and censoring of religious words and expressions being brought up is not right wing or extremist.  It’s simply exposing and calling out secular progressive bias for what it is.  

I admit to no such thing.

You don't have to. Your comment clearly demonstrates it.

I do stand tall for what it is that motivates me in my life even if secularists and progressives lose all sense of rationality and objectivity over it. That’s their bigotry at ply and not my issue.

That makes no sense.

The persecution of believers by secularists and the targeting of the expression of Why we believe and say what we do is quite real in this world.  

What persecution? Oh right, only what you imagine in your mind.

The persecution and censoring of religious words and expressions being brought up is not right wing or extremist.  It’s simply exposing and calling out secular progressive bias for what it is.

Nonsense and playing the victim is what that is!

The bias being displayed is the extreme bias and bigotry of the theocratic dominionists attempting to impose their religion as the law.

There is no greater bigot more hate filled and intolerant than an insecure in their emotional well being, ready to lash out,  and in need of control than a militant secularist here in America with any power at all over others who dare to express disagreement with them.  The American Taliban indeed.  

Many Presidents in our history have called for national days of prayer and of fasting.  Now like in Lincoln’s day we need to add humiliation and repentance as well.  Our secular movement has given God good reason to repent of us.  

Psychobabble

It’s the truth.  It’s in the historical record except the last sentence which is in the process of becoming true that’s to the militant secularists in this nation that would prefer our ruin over restoration of the condition of restoration is the people all returning to God 

Incoherent psychobabble

Speaking from personal experiences in such utterances again?  

Dear God, I know this will fall on your deaf ears, but please stop needlessly killing children with disease.  Thanks in advance should you choose to finally lift a finger to help (other than your usual middle finger).

Stop blaming God for the actions of those rebelling against him from the leaders to the followers fighting a losing war to the bitter end.  God did not create disease.  Disease is one of many natural consequences of the rebellion.  

Stop blaming God for the actions of those rebelling against him from the leaders to the followers fighting a losing war to the bitter end.  God did not create disease.  Disease is one of many natural consequences of the rebellion.  

Stop making excuses for god. Your god knew about, allowed it to happen, and does nothing about it. So god shares the responsibility and the blame. After all, the buck stops with god, right?

I didn’t make excuses at all.  I simply said to not blame God for something He didn’t do or cause.  Ultimately for the things that are evil or bad that happen the buck will stop with those responsible for making the the choice to do bad things.  The rebellion and all of its bad side effects will all end.  

I didn’t make excuses at all. I simply said to not blame God for something He didn’t do or cause.  

If god knows everything and allows it to happen, then god is ultimately the cause.

 Ultimately for the things that are evil or bad that happen the buck will stop with those responsible for making the the choice to do bad things.

Sounds like an excuse. Especially since there is no "choice" that god doesn't know about and allows to happen anyway.

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Fasting will do what exactly?

Make one feel hungry. That's about it.

This article is so very right about what it says.  Our current political leadership has made a mess of our nation.  According to the big government, the deep state, the dystopian regime, and their alliance with big tech social media, the mainstream media, academia, militant secularists and their version of science there should be no place in America for Christian conservatives or the expression of our ideas, or our actions.  Truly it is time for believers as we have through all history but more than ever for a season of prayer for our exceptional America now being depleted by the Biden/ Pelosi regime.  

"We saw a mob of right wing conservative Christians attack our Capital on January 6th, attacking police with flag poles and pepper spray. And many conservative right wing tweets and social media posts have advocated violence against their fellow Americans simply because they didn't share your faith or ideology."

They are America's right wing domestic terrorists - more of a threat than any other foreign terrorists.