'Authorities' panic over COVID protests, dissent – here's why
By: Liz Peek
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'Authorities' panic over COVID protests, dissent – here's why
Challenges to lockdowns and mask mandates have been viewed as undermining society
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What are the "authorities" so afraid of?
Why are Canadian truckers protesting vaccine mandates considered a threat? The Freedom Convoy has garnered enormous popular support but is condemned by the liberal media and dismissed by Canada’s unpopular Prime Minister Justin Trudeau as a "small fringe minority."
Prodded by Canadian authorities, GoFundMe moved to confiscate and redistribute $10 million raised to support the drivers, prompting such outrage that they pivoted to returning the money to the original donors. A like-minded U.S. group, "Convoy to DC 2022," attracted 130,000 members to its Facebook page before it was taken down by the social media giant.
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Meanwhile, Joe Rogan has come under blistering attack for hosting on his podcast a cardiologist and infectious disease expert who questions the efficacy and safety of the COVID vaccines. Rogan is viewed as such a threat that the White House – in effect, the president of the United States – is trying to shut him down.
You have to wonder, why is the establishment in full panic mode every time someone challenges their COVID orthodoxy?
When historians review how our nation dealt with this pandemic, our political leaders will be excused for mistakes made. In responding to a fast-moving once-in-a-lifetime virus that threatened wholesale death, our mayors and governors – and two presidents – made quick decisions based on inadequate information but recommended by health experts who did the best they could. Those will be forgiven.
What is not forgivable and should never be excused is that those same political leaders and medical authorities brooked no dissent, allowed no debate, and by pretending they had unassailable "truths" on their side, undoubtedly caused the deaths of many Americans.
Joe Biden’s White House was reluctant to acknowledge the vaccines’ shortcomings and slow to admit that their efficacy declined rapidly over time
Discussions about possible therapies and treatments have been forbidden, even though creditable doctors have attested to the value of drugs like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, based on their own experience.
When Dr. Simone Gold and her colleagues attested to the success they had treating COVID patients with hydroxychloroquine, she was banned from every major social media site and smeared by the press. But a team at Henry Ford Health System in southeast Michigan announced in July 2020 that a study of 2,541 hospitalized patients found that those given hydroxychloroquine were much less likely to die.
When a Pennsylvania doctor prescribed ivermectin for a patient she was fired. Just recently, clinical trials in Japan suggest the drug inspires an anti-viral reaction and could be a useful remedy for COVID patients.
Similarly, challenges to lockdowns and mask mandates have been viewed as undermining society and those voicing dissent viewed as heretics.
It is not as though the "authorities" have gotten it right. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has been pilloried by the intelligentsia for refusing to impose lockdowns or mask or vaccine mandates, but his state has witnessed fewer deaths per capita from the latest omicron surge than New York, which has required all those supposed preventatives.
A recent Johns Hopkins study concluded that locking down our economy only reduced the COVID death toll by 0.2%, while inflicting grave injury on our country; the authors said the approach should be "rejected out of hand as a pandemic policy instrument."
Joe Rogan’s great offense was to interview Dr. Robert Malone, who challenged the efficacy of the vaccines, points he reiterated in a recent speech in D.C.
"Regarding the genetic COVID vaccines, the science is settled, they are not working."
The Washington Post, reviewing his remarks, thundered that Malone was promulgating "falsehoods" and "misinformation." The Post writers noted that the doctor’s comments came on the heels of a CDC study showing that the vaccines protect against hospitalization from omicron.
That seems true, and incredibly valuable, but it is also true that the vaccines failed to meet their original promise, which was to prevent infection from and transmission of COVID-19. The surge in delta and then omicron cases grew to record numbers in the U.S. even as a growing number of people were vaccinated.
Joe Biden’s White House was reluctant to acknowledge the vaccines’ shortcomings and slow to admit that their efficacy declined rapidly over time. Skepticism over the shots grew; confusion led to the U.S. falling way behind in booster shots, costing many lives.
In issuing an apology about his podcast, Rogan pointed out that "Eight months ago, if you said if you get vaccinated you can still catch COVID and you can still spread COVID – you will be removed from social media … Now, that’s accepted as fact." He is right.
One of the most popular articles at The Hill recently described the CDC’s "finally recognizing ‘natural immunity,"" something that the health agency had previously refused to do. A report from the CDC concluded, based on a review of people in California and New York, that being vaccinated prevented the worst effects of COVID-19, but so did surviving the disease. In fact, the researchers note that "after delta became prevalent, natural immunity was more protective against infection than vaccination."
The Hill author notes that, "Many European countries recognize that immunity due to prior infection is equal to vaccination" and summarizes that, "Not exempting those with prior infection was always unfair; now it is unscientific as well."
Hundreds of thousands of workers have protested the vaccine mandates ordered by Biden; many have argued that because they have already survived the virus, they have natural immunities and need no further protection. The authorities refused to consider their argument, just as they have refused to admit that masks provide minimal benefits to children and in fact could be harmful.
Biden campaigned on the promise that he had a plan to "shut down the virus." The United States now has a higher per capita death rate than any other developed country, which was not the case when Biden took office. Clearly his administration is doing something wrong. But heaven forbid you ask what that is.
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That’s actually a fair point, especially if you have some medical reason to avoid a vaccine (although very few people fall into that category). Even so, the current scientific understanding is that natural immunity is still enhanced with vaccines. Additionally, you can get Covid again. I know a few people who have had it twice, so natural immunity is no guarantee either.
A piece of good news I heard this morning is that people who are getting it for the second time seem to be handling it better the second time around.
Go ahead and ask. I have been plenty critical of the Biden administration. I don’t think it advances the conversation on the pandemic to whine only about pushback on debate. I think it’s far more productive to say the thing you want to say rather than put all your energy into complaining that someone else doesn’t want you to say it. I see that a lot, lately.
I hope the picture of the maskless Stacy Abrams sitting in a classroom with masked kids ends this stupidity. The mandated masks for kids (who generally don't need them), but not elected Democrats should once and for all end this hygiene theatre that only serves to hurt kids.
They demand we take instruction from them then lets. Stacy Abrams and many other Democrats don't feel the need to wear a mask then it's time we all put up the masks and get back to normal. No more fear mongering from the left since we would be following their examples.
Students in California saw their Governor and a big city mayor go maskless recently and now large numbers are copying him at school, much to their teachers unions horror and I’m talking about big urban districts not outlying rural ones that have been mask optional for months.
Good for them. it's time the "Good enough for thee but not me" bs comes to an end. Part of being a leader is setting the example. I haven't seen a single democrat set a followable example in a very long time.
Liberal blue New Jersey ended mask mandates for students and staff today so what they are doing and we are promoting is working.
What is it that you are doing and promoting that is working??????????????????????????????
The panicking of blue city, state, and federal mandate fascists.
The fascists are trying to figure out a way to make themselves look good with regards to all this and failing terribly.
Californication and New York are still trying to make students and teachers wear face diapers
In a nut shell, anybody who speaks out, or acts against the blundering fools in the government and the left are facing scrutiny, up to and including death threats across the board. But don't dare criticize THEM. They'll brand you a "domestic terrorist" and cry, and scream, go at you on social media like a child.
I'm pretty sure the vast majority of those who are railing against Rogan have NEVER heard any of the podcasts they are so upset about. Like many of the things the left gets upset about, they are running off of something a friend told a friend who told a friend.
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Another projection, deflection, and denial 'article'
SSDD
The rebellion against blue authoritarians is on!
I think it was Dana Perino who suggested Covid pandemic will end on March first during the state of the union when Biden announces that thanks to him Covid has been destroyed and people can go back to normal. Then he will forget where he is and promise cancer will be eradicated by July 4th.
Rebellion. How stupid. Completely devoid of common sense.
Well it is a passive peaceful form of civil disobedience. Nothing wrong with that. Other countries are ending all China virus mandates and restrictions and so can we.
No, what you said describes the intellect of the pro mandates side. You define them perfectly!
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You didn't answer the question.
As per my other seed, it’s spreading around the world now
It is a joy to behold, and way past due.
You mean lack of common sense and ignorance is spreading around the world now?
And we will never forget or forgive those who did this to us.
Who did what to you?
The more they try to do the deeper the hole gets. They are too dumb to realize the people that they are energizing against them. Most notable the independents that they will be depending on later this year and in 2024.
Read the article and find out.
Again, no answer
Also again, no question.
Who are you referring to? If nobody knows who you are asking information from you won't get any information.
Seem strange to just post the most random things to no one and expect answers to nothing asked!
Just hoping someone, anyone will respond so it can be argued with?
Probably demanding a link to be ignored on a topic no one is talking about.
If you wait long enough they will start replying to themselves. All the while expecting to be taken seriously.
And when they dont' like the way it goes they will deflect with the normal "but Trummmmmpppp" bs.
The seed here is about blue authoritarian fascists fear of losing control over the masses, not what we are doing. What we are doing around the world is another seed here.
" so what they are doing and we are promoting is working."
So you don't have an answer to 'what we are promoting' is working
What are you promoting?
Ignorance?
Lack of common sense?
No masking in schools????????????????
No masking anywhere???????????????????????
Masks are ineffective...especially on kids
Why are you replying in 7.3 with a statement that was made in 2.2 ? Are you having trouble keeping up with the conversation?
I don't wear a mask any longer. I've been out quite a few times for drinks with friends. I've been to a few concerts (20,000+ maskless audience).
End all China virus mandates now
FOX knows that Canada exists? Too funny. No FOX, the convoy has not "garnered enormous popular support".
Those morons and truckers in Ottawa are a fucking menace.
Who or what are they menacing?
They are menacing to the fascists which is why they are gaining so much support. People are just tired of the "things will be back to normal after one more variant".
Why do you care?
And the ones in capitals all around the world including soon our own…
Inquiring minds want to know!
They seem to be getting enough support so even CNN has to cover it and try to make it something it isn't. I think they have a quote from someone calling it a "threat to democracy". Obviously CNN likes the phrase and will be using it until it has lost all meaning.
It was like they thought the truckers were Jan 6 all over again .
It's quite ignorant to throw the word fascist(s) around.
I'm not referring to you hallux.
Leftists throw the term fascist at us conservatives and trump supporters with reckless abandon and only now when it’s directed at your side of the aisle you complain?
Yes, yes ... reading your propaganda seed once was enough ... and especially Jay Cameron's 'I'm a lawyer and you are not' style of over the top verbiage.
I think one of the main issues is a lack of goal therefore there is no end in sight. The goal has been everywhere from two weeks to flatten the curve to no one can get sick (or die) from Covid and all points in between. The goal is different depending on who you talk to or how someone wants to spin the science du jour. There is not a good way to determine how many in the hospital are there due to covid or just with covid so there is no way to actually tell how we are doing with regards to hospitalization. Everything is a game of one mask, two mask, red mask, blue mask. They are lumping in kids with adults with regards to results data and mandates even though Covid does not see them as equals in terms of sickness or death. What is the acceptable rate of death? What is the acceptable hospital rate or the rate of transmission? What is an goal vaccination rate? What is the goal for herd immunity? With no good answers or consensus on anything it is no wonder more and more people are just raising there hands and saying "That's it, I am out of your game".
Control was always their goal no matter the tool used to get it.
I don’t do propaganda. That is a tool of the secular progressive urban elites
Either control or just total incompetence. I am still waiting to hear that my free covid tests are in the mail after the government has been telling us how important testing was for the past 2 years.
Good point. They are incompetent and use authoritarian control tools to “mask” that fact.
I saw evidence to the contrary over the weekend.
How many, roughly? I’m not asking for an exact number. Just ballpark it. I mean, if it’s “undoubtedly” they should be able to give us a number on the deaths and also some genuine cause-and-effect evidence for how these deaths were caused. I don’t think that’s asking too much. I also don’t think there’s an answer forthcoming.
Because they’re trying to save lives. Duh. Isn’t that worth a strong reaction?
I’m all for dissent and debate. I do not support censorship. However, if you are going to say irrational shit that endangers public health, expect to be challenged on it.
Unfortunately, that study had some critical flaws. Specifically, there was no control (placebo) in the study and the patients were also taking a corticosteroid, which has been shown to be of some benefit to Covid patients. Without these flaws, other researchers have been unable to reproduce the Ford findings - and several have tried. Believe me, if I thought there was a pill I could take to keep Covid from killing me, I’d take it.
Heretics? Undermining society? That’s not quite true - at least not on any large scale that I have seen. Lockdowns (such as they are) and mask mandates are not about religious orthodoxy or morality. They’re about protecting public health. There’s nothing more to it than that.
Now, have people been characterized as being a danger to that public health? Absolutely. But that goes both ways. The people who whine about the negative characterizations have no problem at all accusing those who disagree with them of being fascists.
What promise? This is a straw man. No one - not even the manufacturers themselves - have ever said the vaccines would function at 100% efficacy to prevent infection and transmission. They were announced at being 94-95% effective against the original virus, but also that they might function less well against variants. This has always been how the vaccines were represented.
But even this straw man misses the point. Whether it’s 95% or 5%, that’s still better than 0%.
None of these measures (vaccines, lockdowns, masks, social distancing) were supposed to end the pandemic by themselves. It’s supposed to be all of these factors working together that do it. But even then, the initial goals were never to end the virus (though that would be wonderful), but rather to limit infections so as to allow our healthcare systems to respond effectively to sick people without being overwhelmed, and to give medical science more time to pursue even more effective treatments.
We have not locked down our economy. We have done many things to inhibit the spread of disease by limiting some activities, but the economy was never locked down. Some people might call it a “lockdown” but that don’t make it so.
Yeah, well, he was full of shit on that point. Biden made Covid a political football as much as anyone else.
The question is now that people are engaging in long term protests in different places around the free world, Will the bi coastal secular progressive urban elites make enemies of the farmers that feed them and truckers who supply them? Will they literally bite the hands that feed them? Will the blue elites domestically remove all mandates and return to normal or will they crack down on us hard enough to basically end the republic to maintain control. Those are now the two choices they/we face.
In many places where the Ds control, the mandates and restrictions from the first year or so were rescinded when the numbers went down around June of 2021. So, I would say the answer to your question is “yes.”
That sounds pretty dramatic. How, exactly, do you think that will go? How do Covid restrictions cause Democrats to maintain control of anything in particular?
Oh, I could see them try to run certain states elections in November the way they did the run up to nov 2020 and use the virus as the rationale again…
Meaning what? Are you arguing that the election was stolen for Biden because of Covid changes only in places controlled by Democrats that made it easier to vote?
There were changes that per each state’s constitution should only have been made by the legislature that during the pandemic were done by the sec of state or the Governor instead in all of the half dozen hotly contested close states that as a result all went Bidens way,
That’s a pretty incredible coincidence. OR it says something pretty significant about Trump that if more people have a chance to vote, he loses the election. Not really something to be proud of.
It’s not a coincidence at all.
So how do you explain Georgia? Arizona? States with Republican governors that went for Trump. How can it be some kind of Democratic conspiracy when they aren’t even in charge?
Please don’t answer. The question is rhetorical. You know your conspiracy theory is nonsense.
Wimpy state sec of state gave in to a class action lawsuit letting them get all they wanted and then some. He’s done in November