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Haul Newsom And Other Blue State Pandemic Tyrants To Congress For Hearings

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  2 years ago  •  33 comments

By:   I&I Editorial Board

Haul Newsom And Other Blue State Pandemic Tyrants To Congress For Hearings
Some learned from their mistakes and released their captives. But others wielded raw power as long and hard as they could. These are the offenders who should be forced to explain why they detained tens of millions, chose to preserve their emergency powers when they weren’t needed, and in general behaved like monarchs rather than the public servants they’re supposed to be. The lineup at the congressional dock should start with California Gov. Gavin Newsom, the “King of Sacramento,” and...

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This is an awesome idea!  Set them up in the same manner as the Jan. 6 house committee and grill the ones listed above in the same manner with the same contempt of congress options for non cooperation.  It will be great watching these power hungry control freaks be questioned as the public servants that they are rather than as the pseudo royalty the presumed themselves to be in their state or county or city.  


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Haul Newsom And Other Blue State Pandemic Tyrants To Congress For Hearings




April 19, 2022


February 10, 2022

What is happening to the people of Shanghai is an atrocity. China’s zero-COVID policy has literally imprisoned millions in their own homes in that nation’s most populous city. Police beatings have been reported, as have cases of extreme hunger, and “​​constant mental anguish and anxiety.” Don’t think that could never happen in America. We, too, have tyrants in government. And every one of them should be compelled to sweat under the hot lights of a congressional investigative hearing.

Maybe then they would not be so eager to put Americans under house arrest again.

We now have two reports confirming what so many of us already knew: lockdowns were a colossal mistake. The first analysis, a meta-study of dozens of other studies, found that “lockdowns have had little to no public health effects,” and “​​should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument.” The second discovered that the states with the most laissez-faire pandemic policies fared better than the COVID police states.

The public officials, both elected and unelected, who in essence caged their states, counties and cities, knew better. It was clear early on, and shown later , that few were at serious risk of death from COVID-19. Yet entire populations were told to stay inside and businesses were forced to close. Policymakers treated us all as if were at equal risk of death.

Some learned from their mistakes and released their captives. But others wielded raw power as long and hard as they could. These are the offenders who should be forced to explain why they detained tens of millions, chose to preserve their emergency powers when they weren’t needed, and in general behaved like monarchs rather than the public servants they’re supposed to be.

The lineup at the congressional dock should start with California Gov. Gavin Newsom, the “ King of Sacramento ,” and several others from California, including Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti and Los Angeles County Public Health Department Director Barbara Ferrer (who is not a physician, but has a doctorate in social welfare, and along with Garcetti seemed to enjoy making residents of the largest county in the country miserable).

Others who deserve the worst Congress can dish out include Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, Oregon Gov. Kate Brown, former (and still disgraced) New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, and a grim host of federal and local officials.

Of course there are more who should feel the wrath of the people through their representatives, so many that Congress would have little time to take care of other business (which in itself would be a blessing – just ask Will Rogers ).

It’s unlikely that a Congress under control of the party dedicated to lockdowns would be amenable to investigative hearings. But the Republicans, who at least have a tie in the Senate and could make some noise there, should be making threats that they will back up come January 2023, when — if the midterm elections go as expected — they will have majorities in both chambers. GOP candidates could even run on the promise they will ensure public officials will never again exercise tyranny over a free people, that the U.S. will never follow the lead of the communist regime in China.

Americans have had enough of the-beatings-will-continue-until-morale-improves governance favored by Democrats.

— Written by the  I&I Editorial Board









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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    2 years ago
Don’t think that could never happen in America. We, too, have tyrants in government. And every one of them should be compelled to sweat under the hot lights of a congressional investigative hearing.

Maybe then they would not be so eager to put Americans under house arrest again.

We now have two reports confirming what so many of us already knew: lockdowns were a colossal mistake. The first analysis, a meta-study of dozens of other studies, found that “lockdowns have had little to no public health effects,” and “​​should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument.”

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    2 years ago
The second discovered that the states with the most laissez-faire pandemic policies fared better than the COVID police states. The public officials, both elected and unelected, who in essence caged their states, counties and cities, knew better. It was clear early on, and shown later, that few were at serious risk of death from COVID-19. Yet entire populations were told to stay inside and businesses were forced to close. Policymakers treated us all as if were at equal risk of death.

The methods of punishment for these individuals should be what was common punishments at our nations founding bit we will settle for chants of lock them up as they leave to go outside from the hearing

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
1.1.1  SteevieGee  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1    2 years ago

Seems like a kinda harsh and unchristian thing to do to a Governor who was elected twice for the same term while in the middle of doing all the horrible stuff you're alleging.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    2 years ago

Are you still touting those bogus economic studies?

How many times do we have to debunk them?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.3  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    2 years ago

Investigational hearings for WHAT?

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2  Snuffy    2 years ago

This is a concern that I have after the mid-terms.  If, as expected, the Republicans take control of the House and by some chance get 60 seats in the Senate the last thing I want them to do is go crazy with hearings nnad investigations.  I'm very concerned that someone will push to impeach Biden, others will push for their issues and it will all appear that the Republicans are just trying to punish the Democrats as much as they can.  That IMO is how the Republicans fuck up a win in the mid-terms.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Snuffy @2    2 years ago

I agree with no impeachment of Biden part.  That would only get him sympathy support and votes if any aspect of it was deemed by the msm or seen by the public as an overreach or revenge.  As to the blue city, county, and state leaders, their actions are worthy of oversight.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    2 years ago
That would only get him sympathy support and votes if any aspect of it was deemed by the msm or seen by the public as an overreach or revenge.

So . . . Not because it’s wrong. You oppose it because it seems like a risky tactical move ahead of the next election?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Snuffy @2    2 years ago
I'm very concerned that someone will push to impeach Biden, others will push for their issues and it will all appear that the Republicans are just trying to punish the Democrats as much as they can. 

It's an important question. Should one political party govern with grace and decency while the other destroys all norms as they demonize, smear and try to prosecute their opponents?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2    2 years ago
the other destroys all norms as they demonize, smear and try to prosecute their opponents?

dont talk about the GOP like that

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.2.2  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2    2 years ago

It’s all they got Vic.

Pretty sad isn’t it?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    2 years ago

It is the democrat party that is guilty of all that Vic mentioned and more.   

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sparty On @2.2.2    2 years ago

It is sad and your Governor and mine are/were two of the worst offenders 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2.2.5  Sparty On  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2.4    2 years ago

You’ll see her in a future liberal admin.    She punched her crazy liberal tickets just like our current Sec of Energy.    One of the least qualified for that post.

And it shows now with record energy prices ....

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2    2 years ago

The Democrats are the party of grace and decency.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.7  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.6    2 years ago

It shows / S

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.8  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.7    2 years ago
It shows / S

well said.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3  Tacos!    2 years ago
These are the offenders who should be forced to explain why they detained tens of millions, chose to preserve their emergency powers when they weren’t needed, and in general behaved like monarchs rather than the public servants they’re supposed to be.

I kind of doubt that would happen. While the power of Congress to investigate and issue subpoenas is very broad, it does not have the power to investigate matters that are under the authority of some other branch of government - i.e. the executive or judicial branches. 

Therefore judges and executives (i.e. the president and governors) are not required to explain their decisions - exercised under their authority - to Congress. If a governor wants to testify on that topic, he or she is, of course, free to do so. But what a colossal waste of time!

Did this idea really come from the party of limited federal power and states’ rights?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @3    2 years ago

Congress does have oversight over federal executive agencies and can make people related to those agencies testify in committees/hearings all the time.  Also if the purpose of a hearing has a legitimate legislative purpose, congress can call people to testify.  It would be great to hear certain mayors and county supervisors and governors explain their actions and decisions on certain matters regarding federal constitutional rights particularly under the bill of rights.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1    2 years ago
Congress does have oversight over federal executive agencies and can make people related to those agencies testify in committees/hearings all the time.  Also if the purpose of a hearing has a legitimate legislative purpose, congress can call people to testify.

You're telling me truths that have nothing whatsoever to do with the proposal and are totally non-responsive to the comment you replied to.

It would be great to hear certain mayors and county supervisors and governors explain their actions and decisions on certain matters regarding federal constitutional rights particularly under the bill of rights.  

No, it would be ridiculous. Just imagine if Congressional committees spent all day long interrogating executive branch officers from all over the country about why they made decisions they are empowered to make. The wheels of government would seize up like a neglected car engine. The proposal makes no sense under our separation of powers.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @3.1.1    2 years ago

It makes sense to attempt to check the power of wannabe tyrants and tin horn (democrat) dictators to rule over us by decree and forever hang on to such powers bitterly clinging to them far longer than need be.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
3.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.2    2 years ago
It makes sense to attempt to check the power of wannabe tyrants and tin horn (democrat) dictators to rule over us by decree and forever hang on to such powers bitterly clinging to them far longer than need be.  

They’re not “wannabes” if they were elected. Nor are they tyrants and dictators when they were elected and can be removed by another election or the state legislature. Unconstitutional actions can be blocked by judges. So we all have the “Check” we need.

to rule over us

Unless you live in their state, they don’t “rule over” you at all. For you and me that limits us to worrying about Newsom. Period. End of Story, and end of our right to complain. What the governors of Oregon, Washington, Michigan, or New York do is none of my business in terms of a Congressional response.

How can you call yourself a conservative and have so little regard for the Constitution, State sovereignty, Separation of Powers, and the democratic process? Even if you think an individual governor is ignoring those things, that doesn’t give you or anyone else the right to ignore those things.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @3.1.3    2 years ago

We won’t ignore the abuses of power committed by any level of government.  There has been an over abundance of such on the blue side of the aisle…

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
3.1.5  Tacos!  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.4    2 years ago

Great. Be sure to vote. That’s the system.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @3.1.5    2 years ago

No, we need to uncover and expose the great abuses of power and the dictatorial misuse of it by blue city mayors and blue state governors before courts or votes of the legislature or the people finally stopped them.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
3.1.7  Tacos!  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.6    2 years ago

Let’s agree to disagree then. I believe in Democracy, Justice, and the Constitution, and you believe in something resembling McCarthyism or whatever it is that keeps Russia, China, and North Korea “stable.” I have my way and you have yours.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.1.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tacos! @3.1.7    2 years ago
something resembling McCarthyism or whatever it is that keeps Russia, China, and North Korea “stable.”

Perhaps you’re to young to know what McCarthyism was, else why would you think that it has anything to do with the stability of Russia, China or NK?

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
3.1.9  Tacos!  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.1.8    2 years ago
Perhaps you’re to young

You flatter me. I do have pretty good skin, though. But in any event, I am at least old enough to know what the word “OR” means. As in:

something resembling McCarthyism or whatever it is that keeps Russia, China, and North Korea “stable.”
 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.10  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @3.1.7    2 years ago

You simply support protecting those on the blue side who created virtual McCarthyism here with their medical bio police state and used it to crack down upon dissent and the liberty, freedom, and rights of all who dared to disagree with fascist Fauci and his regime as enforced through blue city mayors and blue state governors.  Calling them to account for their crimes against the constitution and all it stands for must be prevented at all costs even if it means keeping the full democrat agenda in place forever more in order to do so.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
3.1.11  Tacos!  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.10    2 years ago
You simply support protecting those on the blue side

What a childish comment. Did you forget “nanny nanny horsey” was available?

My comments have not been partisan, but rather have been rooted in the Constitution and our systems of government. Address your comments that way.

Calling them to account for their crimes against the constitution and all it stands for must be prevented at all costs even if it means keeping the full democrat agenda in place forever more in order to do so.

You have made it clear that you aren’t interested in hearing about the Constitution because I have referenced it several times and you have ignored me. So it makes no sense for you to invoke it now. Just claiming you care about the Constitution is disingenuous if you can’t talk about how it directly supports your position.

If you can find a part of the Constitution that says Congress can subpoena governors at will and force them to explain their actions taken as governor, then I am willing to hear it. But I warn you, you are wasting your time. If Congress could demand that the other branches explain everything they do under authority that does not come from Congress, no one would ever get anything done.

As I have said, I have no problem with officials being held accountable so long as that accountability is rooted in the law. Governors are accountable to their voters, and held in check by legislatures (via impeachment power) and the courts (via judicial review) of their own states. Their power derives from the constitutions of their respective states. They are not empowered by Congress and therefore don’t have to explain shit to them. Nor can Congress punish them for the work they do as governors.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.12  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @3.1.11    2 years ago

Who said anything about congress punishing anyone for what they did as Governor or mayor?  

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
3.1.13  Tacos!  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1.12    2 years ago
Who said anything about congress punishing anyone for what they did as Governor or mayor?

Holy God, are you serious?? Are you joking? 

YOU DID!!!!!

YOU said they should be punished @1.1

The methods of punishment for these individuals should be what was common punishments at our nations founding bit we will settle for chants of lock them up as they leave to go outside from the hearing

It’s also all over this seed.

These are the offenders who should be forced

deserve the worst Congress can dish out

there are more who should feel the wrath of the people

Republicans . . . should be making threats that they will back up

GOP candidates could even run on the promise they will ensure public officials will never again exercise tyranny over a free people
 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.14  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @3.1.13    2 years ago

Lock them up then!  Or just chant it as they leave.   Blue state governors and blue city mayors deserve public mocking and humiliation for what they did then.  That will be punishment enough.  Never again! Should they be allowed to do what they did.  Otherwise they will next go all Australia, New Zealand, or even China on us all

 
 

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