Election 2024

  
By:  Vic Eldred  •  2 weeks ago  •  135 comments


Election 2024
“Our voters need to vote early,” McDaniel told Fox News. “I have said this over and over again. There were many in 2020 saying, ‘Don’t vote by mail, don’t vote early.’ And we have to stop that and understand that if Democrats are getting ballots in for a month, we can’t expect to get it all done in one day.”

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I know that I can't restrict comments, but this article is primarily for our more Conservative members and our loyal readers. We are moving into election season and though it is always said that the next one is the most important, the 2020 election may have already been the final nail in the coffin for America. That election left the most radical revolutionary group of people in power in the nation's history. Our institutions are dominated by radical left ideologues with a Soviet style police force operating at the federal level. As we turn our attention to the next election, we ask ourselves how we can turn it around?

On the democrat side we can expect a repeat of the 2020 campaign, which will feature a hidden away Joe Biden and the outsourcing of the campaign, once again to Silicon Valley titans and the dishonest left-wing media. Of course the left now has perfected the use of voting process over political issues, which is the hallmark of a banana republic. The way they are handling Trump is to launch a series of indictments during the entire campaign season, which intended or not, have gained him empathy and raised his poll numbers. Their plan depends upon Trump becoming the nominee, at which point we will again get the 24/7 smearing.

Thus we are left with the RNC and who Republicans can nominate. On one side we have the doctrinaire Republicans led by Nikki Haley. This would include Asa Hutchinson and a long list of potential candidates. Then we have the flip side, which is where the Republican Party really is in 2023. We have Trump, DeSantis and Ramaswamy. It is very early, but at the current time the GOP dilemma is that the man who can clearly beat Biden is trailing Trump in the primary and the man who currently looks like the nominee can't beat Biden.



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Donald Trump: He is facing the prospect of Alvin Bragg dragging out a bogus case that only the most partisan Trump haters could defend. That is followed by the sexual harassment civil case from ages ago, totally unsupported, that has been appealed and may likely wait until after the election for a final verdict. Then another NY DA will hit him with his Real Estate portfolio. Then there will be the GA phone call. All of it will be coordinated to keep it in the news throughout the campaign.

In the meantime, Trump attacks his most likely GOP opponent from the left, saying things like DeSantis was against social security etc. The media has played along portraying Trump as reasonable in this regard and clearly working to get Trump the nomination. Right now Trump has received a lot of support via empathy. How long that lasts may seal his fate.


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Ron DeSantis: This is the man that the left really fears. Trump gets angry but DeSantis gets even. As Governor, DeSantis has shown that he knows how to be effective, and it is clear that he knows what America's problem is. He has gone right after woke policies. He focuses & fixes problems. He is only 44 and is more of an ideologue than Trump and has none of the baggage of Donald Trump. Although I once heard a leftist analyst (I don't recall who) say that we can do the same thing to DeSantis as we did to Trump, in reality it will be a lot harder for them to do it to DeSantis. I'm sure the democrats will try to smear DeSantis. After all they have learned nothing, nor have they forgotten anything.


The unforeseen: One thing we know about elections is that there are surprises that enter in. We all recall 2008 when the Financial/Housing Crisis hit. With the democrats early voting that has less impact now, but one can imagine something like the death of Trump or the launching of, let's say, Joe Manchin deciding to run as a "No Labels Party" candidate.  Those would certainly affect the outcome. Last night Sean Hannity berated Ronna McDaniel for not making the GOP conform to the new voting procedures put in place by democrats in 2020. That is an absolute must. Republicans will have to learn how to beat democrats at their own game and it needs to be done soon.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

One thing is for sure:

The left will again fight with all the money, power and resources that they have.

 
 
 
Thomas
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1.1  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 weeks ago
One thing is for sure:
The left will again fight with all the money, power and resources that they have.

Wow. That is quite the revelation there, Vic. I am just going to assume that the right will do that, too.

I wish that some good politicians (I know, that is an oxymoron) would give up the fringe, or better yet start with a concept of how people in the middle, centrists, see themselves. I think they would find that it is not necessary to pander to the  fringe of one side or the other to gain the most votes. 

 

 
 
 
JBB
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2  JBB    2 weeks ago

original

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @2    2 weeks ago

Yup, that's the empathy bump that Trump got thanks to all those bogus criminal & civil cases the democrats lined up.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.1  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    2 weeks ago

The gop is going to nominate Trump, again, and Biden is going to whoop him badder...

Probably by twenty million votes this time!

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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2.1.2  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    2 weeks ago

“…the empathy bump…”

If anyone, anywhere, at anytime can muster empathy for this most dangerous, dysfunctional, divisive of characters, then the results of him somehow remaining relevant lie solely on them. 

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.3  JBB  replied to  afrayedknot @2.1.2    2 weeks ago

We are in an upside-down world when a self-admitted serial abuser of women has been unanimously found responsible of sexually assaulting a woman and then assassinating her character is admired and rewarded by any voters. Even voters who are mired in the no good low down nasty messed-up gop of Trump's MAGA!

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.1.4  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @2.1.1    2 weeks ago
Probably by twenty million votes this time!

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Brandon has a record this time around. He can hide in the basement; but the disaster he has turned this country into will be used against him.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.5  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.4    2 weeks ago

Yet only US citizens can vote for President or in any statewide or national elections...

Why do you say such outrageous things?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @2.1.2    2 weeks ago

You being with the majority of progressives who simply hate Trump.

Sorry, I have to judge a statement from whence it comes.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.6    2 weeks ago
You being with the majority of progressives who simply hate Trump.

Do you really think that the opposition to Trump is merely personal hatred?   

Do you dismiss that Trump has demonstrated, especially with his Big Lie campaign, that he should never be allowed political power ... much less the presidency?   Do you not know why someone would hold that position?

IMO hatred is NOT the driving factor for the super majority of those who oppose Trump.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.7    2 weeks ago

MAGA creates an alternate reality. This has been obvious for 8 years. When is this country going to wake the hell up? 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.9  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.8    2 weeks ago
When is this country going to wake the hell up? 

It is indeed surreal.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.10  Jack_TX  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.7    2 weeks ago
Do you dismiss that Trump has demonstrated, especially with his Big Lie campaign, that he should never be allowed political power ... much less the presidency?

No.

But let's not ignore the fact that the hyper extreme opposition to Trump started long before 2020.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.11  TᵢG  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.10    2 weeks ago
But let's not ignore the fact that the hyper extreme opposition to Trump started long before 2020.

Apparently, rightly so.   But that does not matter.   In a nation of our size there will of course be those who are entirely emotional about Trump (both emotionally for and emotionally against).   Given.

Do you think that current opposition to Trump for PotUS is predominantly emotional — they do not want him for PotUS merely because they 'hate' him — or based on facts (e.g. he irresponsibly lied about the US electoral system being rigged, voters being disenfranchised and denied the legitimacy of Biden as PotUS ... and more)?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.12  Jack_TX  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.11    2 weeks ago
Do you think that current opposition to Trump for PotUS is predominantly emotional — they do not want him for PotUS merely because they 'hate' him — or based on facts (e.g. he irresponsibly lied about the US electoral system being rigged, voters being disenfranchised and denied the legitimacy of Biden as PotUS ... and more)?

Actually yes.... the operative word being currently.

The people currently focused on the presidential election 18 months away are definitely more emotional than rational.  Most of those people have heated opinions about a guy who isn't even an actual candidate, so yeah, it's all about emotion right now.

As we get closer to the actual event that will change.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.13  TᵢG  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.12    2 weeks ago
The people currently focused on the presidential election 18 months away are definitely more emotional than rational. 

Well I am focused on Trump being the likely nominee and my issue is entirely rational.   I do not hate Trump (as an individual, he is irrelevant); but I do deeply care about the precedent he set as PotUS and the fact that he is likely to secure the GOP nomination.   I doubt that I am in the minority.

Most of those people have heated opinions about a guy who isn't even an actual candidate, so yeah, it's all about emotion right now.

Trump is a candidate.   He is currently the front-runner.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2.1.14  Jack_TX  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.13    2 weeks ago
Well I am focused on Trump being the likely nominee and my issue is entirely rational.

I'm not sure how rational it is to focus on any particular Republican nominee when one of the major prospects hasn't even declared yet. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.15  TᵢG  replied to  Jack_TX @2.1.14    2 weeks ago
I'm not sure how rational it is to focus on any particular Republican nominee when one of the major prospects hasn't even declared yet. 

I assure you that it is perfectly rational to form a position on an extremely well-known candidate with profound baggage who should never be allowed public office yet — in spite of said baggage — has a commanding lead in the polls.

One can rationally conclude that Trump having a chance at the GOP nomination is bad for our nation (and horrible for the GOP) without hating Trump.   Facts and logic alone illustrate this ... no emotion required.

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Tessylo
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2.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @2.1.3    2 weeks ago

The former 'president' is also a lifelong thug, grifter, conman, crook, scumbag who ran a criminal enterprise of an 'administration' while 'president' and who is still fleecing his supporters/enablers as he 'campaigns' for 2024 and who is facing many 'bogus' criminal and civil cases - lofucking-l

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.1.17  cjcold  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.4    2 weeks ago
Really counting on those illegal immigrants

Counting on even more women voting against him this time.

Counting on even more folk who are just sick and tired of his lies.

Counting on him being convicted of even more crimes by then.

Counting on Putin being dead and RT not lying for Trump this time.

Counting on Trump just eating himself to death by then.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @2    2 weeks ago

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JBB
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2.2.1  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2    2 weeks ago

Really into making false accusations huh?

The same information is easily available...

You reallt should be ashamed for yourself.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @2.2.1    2 weeks ago

No link to prove it's factual so I can only assume you made it up.  You know, like much of what you claim.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.2.3  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.2    2 weeks ago

What in the hell are you babbling about?

Trump leads DeSantis for the gop's nod...

You really need to get outside that bubble.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @2.2.3    2 weeks ago

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JBB
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2.2.5  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.4    2 weeks ago

You are the one making false accusations!

Photoshop? Have you no decency? No shame? No honor? No obligation to behave and act in an honest adult manner?

You can see the pyramids from that river...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @2.2.5    2 weeks ago

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JBB
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2.2.7  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.2.6    2 weeks ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @2.2.7    2 weeks ago

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JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

Ron DeSantis doubled down yesterday with his support for a ban on early term abortions (6 weeks).  This will essentially doom him in a 2024 general election. 

The right is not going to learn their lesson. Women in swing states will come out in great numbers in order to prevent such an anti-abortion crusader from becoming president. 

If DeSantis had a 50% chance of winning before this , that has gone down to 15% or 20% now. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @3    2 weeks ago

Republicans have to catch up to Democrats on ballot harvesting. 

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.1  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1    2 weeks ago

Because the gop winning fair is impossible?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @3.1.1    2 weeks ago

PROJECTION

Never forget: Elias & Zuckerberg....and the FBI...and the media

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @3.1.1    2 weeks ago
ecause the gop winning fairly is impossible?

They just won a majority of house votes despite Democrats ballot harvesting operations. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @3.1.1    2 weeks ago
Because the gop winning fairly is impossible?

No that was the dems in 2020. Mail in got more votes off the couch and they knew it.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.5  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.4    2 weeks ago

Voting by mail is legal and not harvesting!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @3.1.5    2 weeks ago

No shit? Well color me shocked..........oh and where the hell did I say it wasn't?

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.1.7  MrFrost  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.4    2 weeks ago
Mail in got more votes off the couch and they knew it.

Not the Dems fault that a lot of repubs are too lazy to get off said couch and fill out a simple form to vote. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3    2 weeks ago

You may have a point, John.

If abortion is now more important than inflation and a coming recession, open borders, CRT and Trans BS being taught to children, a radicalized DOJ/FBI and unknown individuals having to handle our foreign policy, this country is flat out destined to the dustbin of history.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2    2 weeks ago

The reason why the right to choose has not being perceived as more important than many other issues is because that right was not in jeopardy for 50 years. Look at the recent Wisconsin Supreme Court election. The Democrat won largely because of the fear that electing the Republican would have solidified an anti-abortion majority on the state Supreme Court. 

I cant stand DeSantis, but I'll give him some advice. Stop talking about abortion, period. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    2 weeks ago
Look at the recent Wisconsin Supreme Court election.

You mean where the same Republican candidate lost by the same margin he did before Dobbs 4 years ago? 

 
 
 
George
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3.2.3  George  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.2    2 weeks ago

Obviously a referendum on abortion if you are a partisan driving an agenda.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.2    2 weeks ago

Keep hiding your head in the sand. It will ensure a Democratic victory if DeSantis is the nominee. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    2 weeks ago
The reason why the right to choose has not being perceived as more important than many other issues is because that right was not in jeopardy for 50 years.

First of all John, we are a democracy and the population of each state gets to vote on it.

Second of all John, the reason it was a matter of national law for 50 years was because 7 Justices made a ruling, they had no right to make. Abortion is not covered by the Constitution. You do believe in the Constitution?  Or is it just an obstacle for the left?


 Look at the recent Wisconsin Supreme Court election. The Democrat won largely because of the fear that electing the Republican would have solidified an anti-abortion majority on the state Supreme Court. 

Yes John, that was one of the takeaways from that vote. The other was the influence of the very young voters in that vote. That is probably why GOP candidate Ramaswamy is running on making the minimum voting age 25.


I cant stand DeSantis, but I'll give him some advice. Stop talking about abortion, period. 

I'm sure you can't stand him. He's against all the radical ideas that destroyed the country. As for the advice, it may be too late. He at least stood by his views.

My warning to democrats:  Be very careful: DeSantis knows how you think!

 
 
 
JBB
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3.2.6  JBB  replied to  George @3.2.3    2 weeks ago

A referendum Democrats lead by 61%/37%.

original

 
 
 
charger 383
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3.2.7  charger 383  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2    2 weeks ago

Overall, Abortion restrictions will lose more elections than they will win

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.5    2 weeks ago

Nothing you just said will help DeSantis.  He has appeal to MAGA, I will give you that. There is no reason to believe his extremist views will have a nationwide appeal to a majority. His ideas have not even been given national scrutiny yet. He is a Christian nationalist and I would hang that around his neck like an anchor. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  charger 383 @3.2.7    2 weeks ago

Up until now democrats have owned the narrative. Most Americans are in favor of abortion with reasonable restrictions. That is the case that should be made. You don't let democrats who believe in abortion on demand, right up until birth do all the talking.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.10  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.4    2 weeks ago

It will ensure a Democratic victory if DeSantis is the nominee.

Odd then, that Democrats are spending so much time, effort and money to keep him from winning. 

They just spent 50 millon dollars promoting the most Trump aligned candidates in 2022, now DeSantis (who won a former Obama voting swing state by 20 points) is the one who is bad for republicans? 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.9    2 weeks ago
You don't let democrats who believe in abortion on demand, right up until birth do all the talking.

Yeah, Democrats free abortions until birth for any reason is just as unpopular as total abortion bans. 

A ban after 12 -15 weeks is probably the sweet spot for voter preferences, but few people are one issue voters and those who are already vote accordingly.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.8    2 weeks ago

He is currently running for the GOP nomination (though still not a declared candidate).

If he does win the nomination he will have to shift to a wider audience. I know he can do that, which is something Trump refused to do.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @3.2.6    2 weeks ago

That is without specifics. How do democrats do when they run on unlimited abortion?

And please tell us what happened to "rare safe and legal?"

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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3.2.14  afrayedknot  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.9    2 weeks ago

“Most Americans are in favor of abortion with reasonable restrictions.”

Indeed.

The gop, in their religious fervor, is destined to lose as reasonable is not medically nor politically nor socially in their vocabulary. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  afrayedknot @3.2.14    2 weeks ago

"Rare, safe and legal."

Hit them over the heads with it!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.16  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.5    2 weeks ago

DeSantis and other conservative leaders such as   Rep. Lauren Boebert   and   Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene , have recently touted   Christian nationalist   ideas – a political ideology that asserts an intrinsic connection between being American and being Christian.

The influential daily newspaper, one of the most  widely read  in the state, points to DeSantis' invoking of Christian war imagery, as he said in a recent speech: "Put on the full armor of God. Stand firm against the left's schemes."

Republicans such as DeSantis have found a "political gold mine" by pitting Christians against the "so-called evils of the left," such as LGBTQ people and "woke" teachers, the paper says.

But, the newspaper's editorial board warns that Christian nationalism can have dangerous appeal beyond just religion.

"We cannot overlook the overlap between Christian nationalism — and its nostalgia for our "Anglo-Protestant" past — and white supremacy," the editorial says, noting that many devout Christians enslaved Black people centuries ago.

The article also cites recent  data , laid out by Robert P. Jones, the head of the Public Religion Research Institute, which suggests that "the more racist attitudes a person holds, the more likely he or she is to identify as a white Christian."

Christian nationalism is also not just about religion, according to Ryan Burge, an Eastern Illinois University professor who studies the intersection between religion and political behavior.

Burge told the paper that its appeal also related to nostalgia for the days when traditional values weren't questioned – when "a woman was a woman and a man was a man," a popular gripe amongst conservatives.

The paper suggested that DeSantis' embracing of Christian nationalism hints at him eyeing 2024 GOP presidential primary voters, as Florida, which he won by a "razor-thin" margin in 2018, has long been considered a purple state.

The paper also criticizes Democrats for failing to come up with an effective counter-narrative to politicians like DeSantis that does not demonize religion or come across as proselytizing.

"If DeSantis is telling his followers to go fight to shape the nation to their religious liking, the counter-narrative should be that this rhetoric could not only incite violence, but it also undermines Christianity itself," the editorial says.
 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.17  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.16    2 weeks ago
and its nostalgia for our "Anglo-Protestant" p

Ah Yes, the Catholic nostalgia for Protestantism.  

Who proof reads this nonsense? Talk about trying to force a  square peg into a round hole. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.18  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.10    2 weeks ago

You have a now long lasting obsession with what the Democrats do.  How about the Republicans, the MAGA primary voters. What will be their responsibility for it if Trump wins the nomination ? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.19  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.16    2 weeks ago
The influential daily newspaper, one of the most  widely read  in the state, points to DeSantis' invoking of Christian war imagery

How does one conflate the news end of a newspaper with its editorial page?


And as to Robert P. Jones:

"Jones constructed his index by scoring how individuals answered certain   questions . For each question, there was a binary scoring: One set of answers signals racist views while the other set signals non-racist views. Yet on a number of these questions, other surveys indicate that a sizeable share of black respondents gave the racist answer.

Respondents were asked: “Do you think most white Americans have benefitted from racism against minorities?” Answering “Have not” was scored the racist answer. Yet in a   CNN-sponsored survey , among blacks and Hispanics surveyed, 27 and 39 percent, respectively, answered “Have not.” Does this make these respondents racist against themselves?

Let’s look at the question on Confederate monuments: “Do you see monuments to Confederate soldiers more as symbols of Southern pride or more as symbols of racism?” Answering “pride” was scored as racist. In a Huffington Post  questionnaire , only 58 percent of blacks surveyed answered that it was racism; 17 percent were unsure, and 25 percent believed it reflected either pride or some factor other than either race or pride.

A question concerning past immigrant success was also included: “Irish, Italians, Jewish and many other minorities overcame prejudice and worked their way up. Blacks should do the same without any special favors.” An affirmative answer was scored as racist. But when black Americans were asked the same question, Matt Yglesias   reported   that only about a third disagreed.

Jones’s questionnaire also included a question about work ethic: “It’s really a matter of some people not trying hard enough; if blacks would only try harder they could be just as well off as whites.” An affirmative answer was scored racist. But again, the CNN survey indicated that this is exactly how a substantial share of black Americans answered. Specifically, 42 percent of black respondents believed lack of motivation and willingness to work hard was a major problem, 35 percent believed it was a minor problem, and only 21 percent believed it was no problem at all.

Jones’s survey also covered police actions: “Do you think recent killings of African American men by police are isolated incidents or are they part of a broader pattern of how police treat African Americans?” Answering “isolated” was scored racist. There are two problems with this framing. First, a respondent might think killings are isolated but also believe there is discriminatory use of nonlethal force, leading to support for a broad range of police reforms. Should a person with these views be deemed racist?

Second, there may be credible empirical support for claims that there is no racial bias in the police use of lethal force and killings of unarmed black Americans are isolated. The   Washington Post   has   reported   the following number of unarmed blacks killed by police in recent years: 23 in 2018, 14 in 2019, and 10 in 2020 through October 28. Moreover, Harvard economics professor Roland Fryer analyzed police shootings in California, Colorado, Florida, Texas and Washington State. He   found   no racial differences in shootings overall, in any city in particular, or in any subset of the data. Recently, he   noted ,

Several scholars have rightly pointed out that these data all begin with an interaction, and suggested that racist policing manifests itself in more interactions between blacks and the police. The impact of this hypothesis in our shootings data seems minimal. The results on police shootings are statistically the same across all call types—ranging from officer-initiated contact with a suspicious person (where racism in whom to police is likely paramount) to a 911 call of a homicide in progress (where interaction with the potential suspect is more likely independent of race).

If Jones’s constructed index is so defective, how could much of the media so unquestioningly embrace it? Does it reflect animus towards those who do not support liberal social-justice narratives? At the very least, it suggests that Jones began with a view that racism is the only explanation for any unwillingness to support his visions of white supremacy. As Michael Powell deftly   points out , white supremacy is ill-defined and too often stifles an ability to understand the persistence of racial disparities.

While there is no denying the persistence of racism, it alone cannot explain the gun violence that harms too many black neighborhoods and the weak academic skills of too many black ten-year-olds. To combat these serious problems, we have to move past white racism to identify the most effective policies. Only by improving black neighborhoods and black early age education can we significantly reduce the persistent large racial disparities that plague our society."

Robert Jones's Racism Index Is a Deeply Flawed Measure | National Review

 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.20  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.18    2 weeks ago
now long lasting obsession with what the Democrats do

You literally just said Republicans will lose if they nominate DeSantis. I was responding to your obsession with Republicans, and the palpable efforts of Democrats to ensure DeSantis isn't nominated. A successful govenror of a purple state who isn't senile is too much of a contrast for Democrats to handle.  Hence the desperation. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
3.2.21  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.19    2 weeks ago

Jones is a left wing kook. Anytime he appears, you know the author's agenda. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.22  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.21    2 weeks ago

I think we should all construct a test of what we think is racist and put it out there.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.23  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.22    2 weeks ago

Test - Do you own and wear a MAGA hat?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.2.24  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.20    2 weeks ago

The Republicans will lose no matter who they nominate, as long as the Democrats are aggressive.  There is no majority in America for Republicans social policies. "Anti-wokism" is a loser at the ballot box in the swing states. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
3.2.25  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.24    2 weeks ago
ere is no majority in America for Republicans social policies.

Do you think a majority of Americans support men participating in women's sports, mutilating and castrating minors, governmental discrimination on the basis of race, reparations, open borders etc?

Democrats have figured out majority support for policies don't matter. Cater to the special interests that the base cares about and majority opposes to ensure 100% support from the base come hell or high water.  Once the policies are enacted pivot to demonizing the Republicans. That's all they do.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.2.26  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.25    2 weeks ago

The majority of Americans give very little thought to "men participating in women's sports" since it is very rare.  Keep pressing your "anti-woke" agenda all the time and see where that gets you. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
3.2.27  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.26    2 weeks ago
Keep pressing your "anti-woke" agenda all the time and see where that gets you.

Do you think Americans spend all their time obsessing about race like the Democratic base does? 

 
 
 
George
Freshman Guide
3.2.28  George  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.25    2 weeks ago
reparations,

We don't use the "R" word anymore, democrats just told us that calling a old rich white woman a liar was worth 2 million but African Americans don't deserve anything from California. 

So we need to avoid using the R word.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.2.29  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.27    2 weeks ago

I dont think the majority of Americans spend their time obsessing about anything. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.30  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @3.2.23    2 weeks ago
Test - Do you own and wear a MAGA hat?

Nope. It's one of the most dangerous things one could do.

Test - Are you a member of antifa?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.31  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.27    2 weeks ago

It isn't Democrats flying Confederate flags!

 
 
 
George
Freshman Guide
3.2.32  George  replied to  JBB @3.2.31    2 weeks ago

Democrats are the party of the Klan and the confederacy, of course they proudly fly their flag.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2.34  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @3.2.31    2 weeks ago

but Democrats were responsible for Jim Crow!

how proud you must be!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
3.2.35  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.29    2 weeks ago
I dont think the majority of Americans spend their time obsessing about anything.

Which is why its so silly to think DeSantis is somehow unelectable in a world where Biden is President. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.36  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.30    2 weeks ago

Fighting Fascists is not a trait of racism!

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2.37  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @3.2.36    2 weeks ago

and who are you imagining is doing that??

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.38  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.35    2 weeks ago

Biden won easily without winning Floriduh!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.39  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.37    2 weeks ago

Anti-Fascists!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2.40  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @3.2.39    2 weeks ago

imaginary!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.2.41  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.35    2 weeks ago

The majority of Americans are not familiar with DeSantis views. DeSantis had a campaign ad in 2022 where he is portrayed as having been chosen by God to be the leader.  Thats not going to work in a national election and even if he doesnt play it again the democrats should. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
3.2.42  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @3.2.23    2 weeks ago

Test - Do you introduce race into every discussion- no matter the topic? Do you instantly label anyone that doesn't agree with you a racist? Do you have no problem calling minorities that become Republicans/Conservatives "Uncle Toms" or "tokens". Do you think this statement is perfectly fine, "“You got more questions. If you have a problem figuring out if you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.43  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2.42    2 weeks ago

Dude! I was responding to Vic's comment!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3.2.44  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ronin2 @3.2.42    2 weeks ago

3.2.43 sounds like he's saying "yes" to all your questions.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.45  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.44    2 weeks ago

No it does not. So quit trolling me, fella...

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3.2.46  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @3.2.45    2 weeks ago

Then answer the questions.  It's not hard.  They're simple "Yes" or "No".

 
 
 
Wishful_thinkin
Freshman Silent
3.2.47  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.46    2 weeks ago

You can't answer simple questions, yet you demand the same of others.  How hypocritical of you.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3.2.48  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @3.2.47    2 weeks ago

For me to answer a question, one must be ask.  Of which you haven't done.

 
 
 
Wishful_thinkin
Freshman Silent
3.2.49  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.48    2 weeks ago

Wrong.  I've asked you questions and you always give a run around and never actually answer questions, and I'm not the only one you fail to give answers to.   

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3.2.50  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @3.2.49    2 weeks ago

You're whining about something from another article?  Seriously?

 
 
 
Wishful_thinkin
Freshman Silent
3.2.51  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.50    2 weeks ago

Nope, I'm pointing out your hypocrisy for asking people to do something that you refuse to do yourself over and over again (and not just on one article, it's a pattern with you). 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
3.2.52  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @3.2.51    2 weeks ago

Ok.  Try to keep up. In 3.2.49 you stated:

I've asked you questions and you always give a run around and never actually answer questions, and I'm not the only one you fail to give answers to.   

Up to this point, you have not ask me a single question on this article.  You hadn't even directed a comment toward me.  On other articles you have.  So in this article you are whining about something on another article.  In essence, being a troll.

 
 
 
Wishful_thinkin
Freshman Silent
3.2.53  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2.52    2 weeks ago

If that's the way you perceive it, then that's a you problem.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.2.54  Jack_TX  replied to  charger 383 @3.2.7    2 weeks ago
Overall, Abortion restrictions will lose more elections than they will win

Probably so.

But most people don't base their vote on that issue.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
3.2.55  charger 383  replied to  Jack_TX @3.2.54    2 weeks ago

I know several people that is the issue they vote on,  

 
 
 
Jack_TX
PhD Quiet
3.2.56  Jack_TX  replied to  charger 383 @3.2.55    2 weeks ago
I know several people that is the issue they vote on,  

I don't doubt it.

But statistically, most people don't.  Gallup says only 2% of Americans list that as their most important issue.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.57  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.29    2 weeks ago

No, that would be those who support/enable the former 'president'

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Expert
3.2.58  MrFrost  replied to  George @3.2.32    2 weeks ago
Democrats are the party of the Klan and the confederacy

Then why is the KKK and people flying the confederate flag almost exclusively right wingers? 

512 512

 
 
 
George
Freshman Guide
3.2.59  George  replied to  MrFrost @3.2.58    2 weeks ago

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Joe Biden on African American mothers: it’s not that they don’t want to do a good job, they just don’t know what to do. 

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Nerm_L
Professor Principal
4  Nerm_L    2 weeks ago

It's pretty clear Democrats won't be running on Joe Biden's popularity and celebrity status.  Biden doesn't have coattails.  So, even if Biden can win reelection that won't help down ballot.  And the down ballot elections will be more important in 2024 than the White House.  The Democrats' campaign strategy will focus on a party platform and policy agenda.

Republicans can't win down ballot with a rockstar Presidential candidate.  For 2024, the White House is the booby prize.  Republicans need to control Congress and statehouses.  And the only way to be successful down ballot is with a party platform and policy agenda.  Piecemeal diatribes by a rockstar candidate won't provide leadership and guidance for down ballot candidates.  Whining about what is happening won't cut it with independents.  The only way Republicans can compete down ballot is with a plainly stated and concise message for what they'll do about it.

The era of warm, fuzzy Obama catch phrase politics is over.  It's time to put rubber on the road.  And, right now, Republicans don't have tires on their campaign wagon.  America won't work if Republicans refuse to.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
4.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Nerm_L @4    2 weeks ago

 The Democrats' campaign strategy will focus on a party platform and policy agenda.

I doubt it. Expect it to be a doubling down on the 2012 "kill Romney" strategy. 

"Barack Obama’s aides and advisers are preparing to center the president’s re-election campaign on a ferocious personal assault on Mitt Romney’s character"

There's no positive case to be made for Biden's reelection on any front. The only hope is through fear and demonizing the Republican.  Expect more ads of senior citizens being murdered. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1    2 weeks ago
I doubt it. Expect it to be a doubling down on the 2012 "kill Romney" strategy. 

We already got a sampling:

They hoisted and promoted a Russia/Collusion hoax that encompassed multiple investigations and after it was proven to be a hoax, they took a deep breath and launched two fake impeachments. They have done every dirty thing one could do to a human being ever since. So, we know what is coming.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    2 weeks ago
They hoisted and promoted a Russia/Collusion hoax that encompassed multiple investigations and after it was proven to be a hoax they took a deep breathe and launched two fake impeachments. They have done every dirty thing one could do to a human being ever since.

Do you seriously think you could win a presidential election using such a ridiculous theme?  Keep going. You and people like you will dig the GOP's grave. 

You have this idea that if only people realized how badly Trump has been treated (a ludicrous idea by the way) they would rally around the GOP message.  Its a non starter. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.2    2 weeks ago
Do you seriously think you could win a presidential election using such a ridiculous theme? 

Why do you think Trump's poll numbers have risen recently?


You have this idea that if only people realized how badly Trump has been treated (a ludicrous idea by the way) they would rally around the GOP message.

No John. I want reasonable people to make this election to be a referendum on the policies of the incumbent president. It is that simple.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Principal
4.1.4  Nerm_L  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1    2 weeks ago
There's no positive case to be made for Biden's reelection on any front. The only hope is through fear and demonizing the Republican.  Expect more ads of senior citizens being murdered. 

Sure there is.  Biden ain't Trump.  You see, Biden can play all the dirty tricks he wants because he's not very important for down ballot races.  Down ballot Democrats won't be latching onto Biden's coattails.  That's why down ballot is far more important than the White House for the 2024 election.

Republicans can nominate a rockstar and try to make the election a referendum on Biden.  But down ballot Democrats have the luxury of distancing themselves from Biden.  Down ballot Democrats can run on issues.  Democrats want to regain control of Congress and statehouses.  That's the trouble spot for Democrats' policy agenda.

Abortion is being determined in statehouses.  Immigration is becoming an issue in statehouses.  Gun control has become statehouse initiatives.  The kerfuffle over state legislators being expelled and censured tells us that statehouses have become important targets for the Democratic Party.

How long have Republicans been yammering about states rights?  Well, today's political landscape is all about states rights.  The current SCOTUS has shifted to strengthening states rights.  Republicans peeing down their legs about Biden will only give them wet socks.  The White House is a booby prize in the 2024 election.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.3    2 weeks ago

You cant beat something with nothing. There might be a couple Republicans who could win solely by running against the Biden administration, but i cant see who they might be. All of the contenders can be tied one way or another to keeping trumpism alive (and Trump as a politician). They all have that as a big black mark against them.  This election is not going to be solely about Biden. Not a chance in hell. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Principal
4.1.6  Nerm_L  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    2 weeks ago
They hoisted and promoted a Russia/Collusion hoax that encompassed multiple investigations and after it was proven to be a hoax, they took a deep breath and launched two fake impeachments. They have done every dirty thing one could do to a human being ever since. So, we know what is coming.

So, why focus on the hoax and ignore the implications?  The Russia/Collusion hoax is plain evidence that big government central planning is imploding.  There's no denying that big government has resorted to circumventing the Constitution to sustain itself.  The only way to revitalize the republic is to return to the principles of decentralized government.  

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
4.1.7  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.5    2 weeks ago

It should be about Democrats destroying this country.

It should be about inflation, gas prices, crime, the economy, the border crisis, government corruption, and never ending foreign wars. None of which Democrats have a leg to stand on. 

Instead we will get the Democrat and their media sycophant attack machine no matter who the Republican nominee is. While Brandon hides in his basement again.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.1.8  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @4.1.7    2 weeks ago

I hear Biden made it rough for Russians...

Times are tough when you're losing wars.

 
 
 
George
Freshman Guide
4.1.9  George  replied to  JBB @4.1.8    2 weeks ago
I hear Biden made it rough for Russians...

I hear Biden likes it rough from Russians.  Fixed it.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Principal
4.1.10  Nerm_L  replied to  Ronin2 @4.1.7    2 weeks ago
It should be about Democrats destroying this country.

It should be about inflation, gas prices, crime, the economy, the border crisis, government corruption, and never ending foreign wars. None of which Democrats have a leg to stand on. 

Instead we will get the Democrat and their media sycophant attack machine no matter who the Republican nominee is. While Brandon hides in his basement again.

So, what are Republicans going to do to change direction?  You cite numerous examples and they're valid gripes.  But none of this happened because Biden had a wild hair that needed scratching.  Democrats, up and down the ballot, have been forcing the country in this direction.

Democrats have an agenda that serves as a navigation chart for the country.  What's the Republican alternative?  Big government is already imploding and can't get anything done so there's no need to drown it in a bathtub.  Tax cuts won't build factories and revive the middle class.  American capital running to China to make a quick buck isn't investing in America's future.  And war drums to send the military into every little stinkin' shithole doesn't defend the United States.

How are Republicans going to change the direction for the country by only griping about Democrats?  Let Democrats defend their agenda against a better alternative.  And if Republicans can't explain why their direction is better, in plain language, then why bother voting for Republicans.

 
 
 
Thomas
Junior Guide
4.1.11  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.1    2 weeks ago
They hoisted and promoted a Russia/Collusion hoax that encompassed multiple investigations and after it was proven to be a hoax...

It was not proven to be a hoax. It was not established, which is a different thing altogether than finding it to be a hoax.

 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Thomas @4.1.11    2 weeks ago
It was not proven to be a hoax.

Absolutely it was.

 
 
 
Thomas
Junior Guide
4.1.13  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.12    2 weeks ago

No, it wasn't. You can say it all that you want but that still doesn't make it factual. I call bullshit. Prove that it was a hoax. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Thomas @4.1.13    2 weeks ago
Prove that it was a hoax.

 
 
 
Thomas
Junior Guide
4.1.15  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.14    2 weeks ago

If you posted that link thinking that it somehow proved your point, it didn't. And if you posted it so that I would have a copy, thank you, but I already have my own. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.16  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Thomas @4.1.15    2 weeks ago

You ignore facts. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.17  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.16    2 weeks ago

you ignore facts

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.18  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.17    2 weeks ago

There are few people who still deny that the Russia/Collusion hoax was a hoax.

I call them fact deniers

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.19  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.18    2 weeks ago

You must include yourself in the fact deniers 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.20  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.19    2 weeks ago

Let's find out.

Did the FBI have a predicate to investigate Donald Trump?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.21  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.20    2 weeks ago

Of course. The FBI probe began on July 31st, 9 days after it was revealed that Russia had hacked the DNC and four days after Trump asked Russia to "find" Hillary's emails. After Trump's idiocy, the Australians notified American intelligence of the Popodopolous statements. Putting two and two together they started Hurricane Crossfire. 

The idea that there was no basis for investigating Trump is an insult to everyones intelligence. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.22  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.21    2 weeks ago
Putting two and two together they started Hurricane Crossfire. 

That is not a predicate for launching an FBI investigation


“Neither U.S. law enforcement nor the Intelligence Community appears to have possessed any actual evidence of collusion” between the Republican’s campaign and Russia.

Durham report shows the FBI threatened democracy as much as Capitol rioters did (yahoo.com)

In other words, those in charge at the FBI had the same ideology that you have and that is what they acted to nullify the 2016 election.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.23  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.21    2 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.24  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.23    2 weeks ago

I suppose that's why he felt the need to answer the question I asked you.

How about this one:

What happened to the guy who destroyed Hillary's subpoened server?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Expert
4.1.25  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.21    2 weeks ago
Putting two and two together they started Hurricane Crossfire. 

So the FBI has been lying?  That's what you are now arguing? 

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Participates
5  pat wilson    2 weeks ago
I know that I can't restrict comments, but this article is primarily for our more Conservative members and our loyal readers.

Then why didn't you post it in one of the closed conservative groups ?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  pat wilson @5    2 weeks ago

We don't believe in safe spaces.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6  TᵢG    2 weeks ago
Our institutions are dominated by radical left ideologues with a Soviet style police force operating at the federal level. 

jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif    Hyperbole is never wise.

Of course the left now has perfected the use of voting process over political issues , which is the hallmark of a banana republic

jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif    Yet again.

It is very early, but at the current time the GOP dilemma is that the man who can clearly beat Biden is trailing Trump in the primary and the man who currently looks like the nominee can't beat Biden.

Agreed.

Easy solution (in principle) is to stop defending / supporting Trump.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
6.1  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @6    2 weeks ago

Pointing out the corruption and failures of the Democrats is not equivalent to supporting or defending Trump

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
6.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @6.1    2 weeks ago
Pointing out the corruption and failures of the Democrats is not equivalent to supporting or defending Trump

Correct.   Why did you write this?    I have never suggested that pointing out corruption and failures of the Ds is equivalent to supporting / defending Trump.

Just to be crystal clear, supporting / defending Trump means making excuses for Trump (excusing the inexcusable), be willing to vote for Trump if he is the nominee, etc.    Criticism of the Ds has absolutely nothing to do with supporting or defending Trump.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.1    2 weeks ago

I like it.  Excusing the inexcusable = defending the indefensible

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Guide
7  Greg Jones    2 weeks ago

"Ron DeSantis: This is the man that the left really fears. Trump gets angry but DeSantis gets even. As Governor, DeSantis has shown that he knows how to be effective, and it is clear that he knows what America's problem is. He has gone right after woke policies. He focuses & fixes problems. He is only 44 and is more of an ideologue than Trump and has none of the baggage of Donald Trump." 

After the pandemic and the lockdowns and the ongoing inflation that that shows no signs of abating, the American people are looking for an extended period of what could be called normalcy. They've come to realize that the Dems can't keep their promises. The majority of them do not embrace progressive policies that continue to divide the country. The awakening that happened in Florida will spread nationwide once he actively starts to campaign.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

"A rematch of the 2020 election next year, pitting President Joe Biden against former president Donald Trump, would hurt down-ballot Republicans, a new poll has found.

If Trump is at the top of the ticket, Democrats would have a five-point advantage in the generic congressional ballot, leading Republicans 47 to 42 percent. Without Trump, Democrats and Republicans are deadlocked at 44 percent, according to the survey from WPA Intelligence released Wednesday and obtained by   National Review ."

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9  author  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

Guess which Democrat hellhole this one is?

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Thrawn 31
Professor Guide
10  Thrawn 31    2 weeks ago

Polls should be open for an entire week.

 
 

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