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Haley has 17-point lead over Biden: WSJ poll

  
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By:   Kellie Meyer (NewsNation)

Haley has 17-point lead over Biden: WSJ poll
A WSJ poll shows Nikki Haley leading President Biden by 17 points in a hypothetical matchup.

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(NewsNation) — Former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley has a 17-point lead over President Joe Biden in a hypothetical matchup presented in a new Wall Street Journal poll.

The WSJ poll also shows Haley almost surpassing Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis for the spot behind former President Donald Trump.

Haley has enjoyed a recent rise in several polls as her presidential campaign gains momentum.

"On any given day, Trump and Biden are even. On a good day, he's up by two, he might be up by four. It's all margin of error. In every one of those polls, I was up by 10 to 13. Now I'm up by 17 points," Haley said at a recent rally.

Haley's campaign team is now focusing on independent voters, particularly in New Hampshire, hoping to win over voters with lackluster support for Biden and Trump.

Meanwhile, Biden is reaching the lowest polling numbers of his presidency following his response to the Israel-Hamas war and his overall job performance.

Despite Haley's spike in polls, Trump maintains a significant lead over Republican candidates, expanding his lead in Iowa with just five weeks until the crucial caucuses. More than half of likely Iowa caucus-goers say Trump is their first choice.


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Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    last year

And there you go...........................

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    last year

This will make the dems vote for Trump in the primaries they can vote in.  Then the pussy hats will be out in full force when they realize they played a part in Trump being elected.  I can't wait to see the exploding heads on CNN and MSNBC on election night 2024.  I still watch the 2016 coverage when I need a good laugh.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    last year

That's good, she's got my vote if nominated.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2  Greg Jones    last year

The brain dead Dems are quickly running out of time to pick someone to replace old and senile pedo Joe....the "Hawkeye Caucci" is set to come up in just 34 days on Jan 15. New Hampshire follows closely behind on Jan 23.

They can't say we didn't warn them!!!  We'll finally see how strong Trump's support is.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @2    last year
We'll finally see how strong Trump's support is.

This seed is talking about Haley's matchup against Biden.   Would you prefer Trump as the GOP over Haley??

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3  Sean Treacy    last year

She’s not going to win the republican nomination. If she does, Biden will drop out for health reasons.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    last year

Of course he would................

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
3.2  Hallux  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    last year
She’s not going to win the republican nomination.

Is she too diverse?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hallux @3.2    last year
s she too diverse?

Lol. Race on the brain, eh?

 

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
3.2.2  Hallux  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.1    last year
Race on the brain, eh?

Seems to be the case with many around here every time a black woman is elevated to a position of prominence ... AGs, Judges, presidents of whatnot, VPs, poll workers ...

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.2.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  Hallux @3.2.2    last year
Seems to be the case with many around here every time a black woman is elevated to a position of prominence .

Like in 3.2

That might be why the dems  don't like her though.  Many seem to hate strong women of color that broke out of the plantation.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
3.2.4  Hallux  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.2.3    last year
Like in 3.2

No, as in all the comments about she "checked all the boxes".

If Nikki falls short it won't be because of the left but because far too many on the right gaze upon Aaron's 'gift' in heels up disillusioned wonderment. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.2.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  Hallux @3.2.4    last year
No, as in all the comments about she "checked all the boxes".

I must have missed those.  I wasn't aware it was repubs that picked people based on the number of boxes checked

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
3.2.6  Hallux  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.2.5    last year

Save it for those that swallow that shyte.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4  JBB    last year

Too bad the gop is bound and determined to nominate Trump.

Trump is leading both Desantis and Haley by over fifty points... 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @4    last year

She will kick Biden into the dark ages where he was born.

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JBB
Professor Principal
4.1.1  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1    last year

Here we go. Last week it was Desantis. Next it will be Christy.

Everyone knows the gop is going to nominate Trump, again...

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1    last year
She will kick Biden into the dark ages where he was born.

Not if Trump is the GOP nominee.   Those who say they will vote for Trump if he is the nominee are helping him become the nominee.

Instead of voting for Trump if he is the nominee, those loyal Rs should be actively pushing for Haley to be the nominee and pushing Trump out.

But they are not doing so.   In result, the GOP will be stuck with Trump as their nominee and these 'loyal' Rs will be stuck voting for Trump and then trying to live down their irrational, irresponsible and unpatriotic act.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.2    last year

I saw a video by the never Trumper Tim Miller. He thinks the idea that Haley has a chance is wild wishful thinking.  The majority of Republicans LIKE Trump, and would never accept Haley as a substitute. The only way they MIGHT accept her is if Trump wasnt running. 

She has zero chance to beat Trump in a primary election. Her only hope is that Trump for some reason drops out. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.4  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.2    last year
irrational, irresponsible and unpatriotic act

Opinion only.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.2    last year

IMO it seems more dems have buyers remorse for biden in 2020 than reps have for trump in 2016. 

 They probably won't think there act is irrational, irresponsible or unpatriotic or care about any opinion that says they are.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.5    last year

Do you think it is wise to make Trump the nominee for the GOP?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.4    last year
Opinion only.

Why is it that some feel compelled to tell others that a comment in a social media forum is opinion when it obviously is an opinion?   Is that really the very best 'rebuttal' you could offer?

The fact that I offered an opinion does not make it false.   Especially since I can make a sound argument supporting my opinion.

Trump is the only PotUS in our history who has tried to steal a presidential election.   He is a traitor who attempted to stay in power through coercion, lying, fraud, and incitement.   He violated his oath of office by trying to circumvent the CotUS and attempted to violate the foundation of our democracy — the votes of the electorate.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.4    last year

Truth

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.7    last year
Why is it that some feel compelled to tell others that a comment in a social media forum is opinion when it obviously is an opinion? 

Could be because many folks seem to believe their opinion is fact or truth.   It is hard to be sure unless IMO is in the post.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.10  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.9    last year

256

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.9    last year

Some have to have something to type, even if it is just a continual regurgitation of things commonly known and accepted or repeating comments here.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @4.1.1    last year
Everyone knows

Who is everyone?  No one asked me what I know.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
4.1.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    last year
She has zero chance to beat Trump in a primary election.

I thought the only things you could be sure of were death and taxes.  Are you adding a third?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.14  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.12    last year

"Everyone knows".

Be mindful what Reagan told us about liberals who 'know'.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.15  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.8    last year
Truth

Or Consequences.  A great game

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.16  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.14    last year

One of my favorites

quote-the-trouble-with-our-liberal-friends-is-not-that-they-re-ignorant-it-s-just-that-they-ronald-reagan-24-11-94.jpg

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.17  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.11    last year
repeating comments here.

You mean like rephrasing the same question then getting mad when the answer doesn't change?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.18  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1.17    last year

I have vowed to not answer any more silly questions.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.19  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.16    last year

That's the one!

And many liberals are being very helpful in still proving him right.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.20  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.7    last year

Lets face it Tig, some people will go to any lengths, DAY AFTER DAY, to defend Donald Trump. And these are often the same people who say they will never vote for him. It doesnt compute. It is nonsense . Its embarrassing to say they support him so they do a tap dance and in the meanwhile defend him every day. This is all totally transparent. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.21  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.20    last year

Some folks confuse support for Trump with people just asking for a little common sense to be employed instead of constant attacks 24/7--most of which have been repeated ad nauseum here daily.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1.22  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.9    last year

I think it is fair to presume that most people who are thinking rationally believe that their opinion if more likely true than false.

It would be irrational to express an opinion that you believe is more than likely false.

Do you believe your opinions are likely true?    

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1.23  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.10    last year

When you opine, do you believe you are stating that is likely true or likely false?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.24  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.21    last year
Some folks confuse support for Trump

If you are not running around with your hair on fire then you support Trump.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
4.1.25  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.23    last year

Yes.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.26  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.20    last year

It must be infuriating to some when some people won't drink the cool aid they are consistently offering that they feel the need to make up things about them.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1.27  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.25    last year

Then why would you attempt to criticize me for opining ("Opinion only") and for believing that what I write is likely more true than false (@4.1.140)?

What in your mind is wrong with offering an opinion that one believes is likely true?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.28  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.22    last year

I didn't say more likely.

I said some people feel their opinion is fact, not more likely.   

Why do you feel the need to change the meaning of what I stated?

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1.29  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.28    last year
I said some people feel their opinion is fact, not more likely.   

Who do you think believes their opinion is absolute 100% fact?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.31  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.29    last year
Who do you think believes their opinion is absolute 100% fact?

Why do you feel the need to change the meaning of what I stated?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.32  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.28    last year
Why do you feel the need to change the meaning of what I stated?

Easier that way.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.33  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.32    last year

The cynical me would say it is an attempt to get someone to defend what they never said and then try to deflect away from it when called out on it but it is almost Christmas so I will try and be good.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1.34  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.32    last year

This:

RDtC@4.19 ☞ Could be because many folks seem to believe their opinion is fact or truth.

Could be interpreted fairly or could be taken (absurdly) literally.

I gave RDtC the benefit of the doubt and did not take his use of the word 'believe' to mean 100% certainly.   Most people hold beliefs with various levels of confidence.   I think most rational adults would state that when they believe something to be true that they are not 100% certain.

But I guess RDtC wants us to interpret his comment as if he wrote:

Could be because many folks seem to believe know that their opinion is fact or truth.

In that case, I think that might be true for theistic gnostics (gnostic theist, gnostic atheist) and nutcases like Trump, but most people do not live on the 100% extreme edge.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1.35  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.31    last year

I do not feel that need.

see @4.1.34

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
4.1.36  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.27    last year
likely true or likely false

And I replied yes. It could be true, it could be false. Thus the "yes" answer.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1.38  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.36    last year

You dodged the questions.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.39  Texan1211  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.36    last year

[Deleted]

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.40  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.34    last year

As much as I love to reread everything written all over again, I got it the first time I read it.

Nothing in your post changes mine.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
4.1.41  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.38    last year

Your opinion.......of course I would think it true but am totally open to someone trying to convince me it is likely false. Therefore, once again, could be true, could be false. It may evolve.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1.42  TᵢG  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.41    last year

Normal discourse:   One states one's opinion.   That opinion is accepted or rejected.   If rejected (and challenged) then the 'opiner' has the option to support their opinion with an argument.

In short, we lead with our opinions.   Those of us who think things through before opining are ready to back up our opinions with a sound argument based on credible evidence.

Seems to me that there are far too many tossing out 'opinions' (and quips) who, when challenged, realize that they do not actually know what they are talking about.   Thus instead of rising to the occasion and supporting their opinion with an argument, they dodge and/or engage in dishonest tactics.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.43  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.35    last year
I do not feel that need.

Yet you did it anyway

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.44  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.40    last year

Looks like the cynical me was right.  Almost Christmas.  Bah Humbug

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.45  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.42    last year

[Deleted]

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1.46  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.43    last year

I did not.   That is a lie.   I explained @4.1.34 that I interpreted your comment fairly rather than take it (absurdly) literally.   I did not change the meaning, I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you were not trying to make a ridiculous statement.

You are complaining that you expected people to take this comment from you:

RDtC@4.19 ☞ Could be because many folks seem to believe their opinion is fact or truth.

... and have it literally mean ...

Could be because many folks seem to believe know that their opinion is fact or truth.

A belief typically includes some measure of uncertainty; the word 'know'  (clearer is the phrase 'be absolutely certain') is typically used to connote fact / truth.


Given you want your words interpreted in an extreme (absurd) sense, I ask you this question:

Who do you think believes their opinion is absolute 100% fact; no element of uncertainty?   

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
4.1.47  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.9    last year

As the great baseball hall of famer Yogi Berra famously said "It ain't over till it''s over!". I will still vote for Haley over Trump any day.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.1.48  TᵢG  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.1.47    last year

While I wholeheartedly agree with you, it is over unless Trump is somehow forced out.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.49  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.1.47    last year

Yep. You never know. Hopefully as it gets closer to primaries and people start to take it seriously more will see 3 of the 4 others are worth listening to. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
4.1.50  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.40    last year

Every some odd years I reread the foundation trilogy by Asimov.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
5  Ronin2    last year

The Democrats aren't afraid of Haley.

She has proven to be Establishment enough that if elected that the past seven plus years of FBI/DOJ/Democrat abuse of the system will be swept under the rug. 

Their will be minor procedural changes in the way the FBI/DOJ do business- and we will be assured "That this will never happen again"; and the government will get back to what it does best. Democrats and Republicans taking pot shots at each other in the media; and the only time they agree to pass anything it will be to screw the average American over and enrich themselves and their benefactors.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Silent
6  mocowgirl    last year

I wonder how accurate their polling is vs what we experienced in 2016?

Survey finds Hillary Clinton has ‘more than 99% chance’ of winning election over Donald Trump | The Independent | The Independent

Survey finds Hillary Clinton has ‘more than 99% chance’ of winning election over Donald Trump

A survey from the   Princeton Election Consortium   has found that Hillary Clinton has a 99 per cent chance of winning the election over Donald Trump.

Three days before the election, Ms Clinton has a projected 312 electoral votes, compared to 226 for Mr Trump. A total of 270 electoral votes are needed to win.

and Time Magazine had so much faith in the polls that they actually printed the edition proclaiming Clinton as POTUS while only doing a mockup in case Trump won.

'Madam President' Hillary Clinton Newsweek Cover | Snopes.com

At this time, I can't imagine the Democrats choosing a worse candidate for POTUS than Biden, but Haley's ties to the war industry probably won't endear her to enough voters to defeat whoever the Democrats National Committee finally chooses as their candidate.  I don't know enough about Haley to highlight other possible drawbacks.  If the Republicans are playing to win, I don't believe that Haley will be their candidate. 

 
 

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