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The Kushner Plan; Fatal Flaws

  
By:  Vic Eldred  •  5 years ago  •  23 comments


The Kushner Plan; Fatal Flaws
"The President asked me to work on this topic," Kushner said. "This isn't one of the topics that I came to Washington to work on."

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On Tuesday Jared Kushner briefed Senators on an immigration proposal he has been working on. 

First, let me dispense with the idea that this plan or any other immigration plan is going to be adopted by Congress in the near future. There are just too many reasons why our elected officials will not do a thing to solve the immigration crisis on the southern border. Everything from Corporate America's constant pressure on our representatives for cheap labor, to democrats desire for replacing the American voter, to using the issue for political purposes, right up to democrats refusal to work with the President on anything. 

So, what purpose is there for an immigration plan? 

Supposedly a starting point for whenever the day finally comes when congress faces up to this enormous problem!


Here are the two main goals contained in the "Kushner Plan" (I'm using CNN BTW) ( https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/24/politics/kushner-immigration-plan/index.html)

"The first part of the proposal deals with border security. This would include constructing physical barriers where needed and modernizing ports of entry in the north, south and on the coasts -- so that every person, vehicle and cargo container is scanned to prevent anything illegal from coming into the country, and that trade is facilitated more quickly. This proposal, the official said, would protect rights and respect due process while also preserving the right to detain, adjudicate and remove any individual if need be, especially people trying to circumvent the legal system."

Strike 1........More money, yet no mention of congress changing immigration law!   How about a Constitutional Amendment denying a required hearing for a non-citizen? Or at the very least requiring those seeking assylum file for it in the US Embassy within their own country?


"The second part of the proposal asks what should legal immigration look like. With 185 different kinds of visas, the system right now is easy to game, the official said. This proposal would for now keep the level of immigration at the same level it is currently, and work toward a merit-based system based on the Canadian, Australian and New Zealand systems."

Strike 2........Keep the level of immigration the same?  What about the millions of people who came into the country illegally?  Isn't it time for a halt to ALL immigration!

A merit based system is welcome, but that's not what big business wants.


Kushner says the details are coming. The President has yet to see them.


Based on the main goals as presented by CNN, I think Jared best turn it all over to Steve Miller and go home to Ivanka where Jared can do something good.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    5 years ago

To be filed under "A fools errand"

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    5 years ago

Please stop hitting on me Vic.  I'm not interested.  Stop flirting with me/hitting on me through private messaging.  

Thanks!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1    5 years ago

I'm not doing anything of the kind. Stop messaging me on the not so private messaging

Thanks!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    5 years ago

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JBB
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2  JBB    5 years ago

It is about time the damn gop started eating their own. Good Job! Keep it up...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @2    5 years ago

Over here we can think for ourselves.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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2.1.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    5 years ago
Over here we can think for ourselves.

If that were true, your Shitbag of a "president" would not have been.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @2.1.1    5 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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3  XXJefferson51    5 years ago

The plan seems to be a good one to me as long as all that follows is dependent on the wall being built. As to legal immigration, we need to have it. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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3.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3    5 years ago
The plan seems to be a good one to me as long as all that follows is dependent on the wall being built.

Lemmeesee----um, checking the agenda calendar here.  Ah, yes--that will happen on Monday, the 21st of WhenHellFreezesOver. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @3.1    5 years ago

The bottom line is that there are a lot of things I’m open to considering or even supporting regarding immigration and immigration reform. In fact I’m likely more liberal on the issue than most of the other conservatives here.  The bottom line though #1 has to be completed and a wall that is satisfactory to all conservatives has to be built before I’ll agree to any of the other.  I could see lots of reforms and dealing with illegals here now who are working, going to school, not broken other laws, learning English, short of giving them citizenship like say permanent resident alien status, but not without the wall and port of entry improvements.  Without those, the illegals can be in limbo and subjected to random ICE raids anywhere any time forever more.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3    5 years ago

Lindsey Graham has a good plan, but as i said before, Congress is a long way from fixing the problem.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
3.2.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2    5 years ago
Lindsey Graham has a good plan

The only good plan that back-stabbing coward could come up with at this point would be to walk into a starving tiger's cage at the zoo.  It would be the only real service to the nation he could ever hope to provide. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.2.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2    5 years ago

The President just announced a new plan.  I’ll look into it. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.2    5 years ago

Thanks, I'll take a look as well

 
 
 
livefreeordie
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4  livefreeordie    5 years ago

It’s a weak plan and will never pass

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  livefreeordie @4    5 years ago

It could be a great plan and it wouldn't pass!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5  Sean Treacy    5 years ago

It really doesn't matter what Trump proposes. It won't get through the house, which would could off its metaphorical nose to spite Trump. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    5 years ago

The Dems have already shown that they are willing to keep the entire immigration issue in limbo if that is what it takes to stop Trump from protecting America’s and Americans security.  

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
5.1.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1    5 years ago

Dems will do everything they can and should to stop Shitbag from treating immigrants, particularly asylum seekers, as subhuman and subject them to Gestapo tactics like family separation which has resulted in the kidnapping and permanent theft of some children from their true parents.  This case is what I'm talking about:

Immigrant Mom Loses Effort to Regain Son Given to US Parents

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @5.1.1    5 years ago

Lindsay Graham has a bill before congress that would require asylum seekers file for asylum within their own countries. It would also allow for illegals to be detained as a family unit for up to 100 days. You can't get more humane than that.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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5.1.3  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.2    5 years ago
Lindsay Graham has a bill before congress that would require asylum seekers file for asylum within their own countries.

The can already to that but you might ask yourself why that wouldn't be a wise thing to do--I mean, be seen walking into the US Embassy or Consulate if you're under threat from the regime or drug cartel. Our laws right now give asylum seekers to cross the border at any fucking point -- without losing the right to have the asylum claim vetted.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @5.1.3    5 years ago

I'm sorry for them, but we have a crisis on our hands and we can't absurd the entire population of central America.


Thanks to all who were civil

 
 

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