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TRUMP IS NOT REAGAN; HE'S LINCOLN

  
Via:  Vic Eldred  •  5 years ago  •  23 comments


TRUMP IS NOT REAGAN; HE'S LINCOLN
Lincoln united his party and saved America from the Democrats for the first time. Can Trump—and we—come together and save America for the second time?

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Originally posted at   American Thinker   by James Arlandson.

In an article titled   The Lincoln Model: How Trump Can Shut Down the Democrat Plantation , which must be considered the most insightful – or the boldest – of the year so far, Dinesh D’Souza links Lincoln and Trump. Who knew?

First, D’Souza has to allay the fears of conservatives who yearn for the days of gentlemanly politics during the Reagan administration. This yearning is not realistic today and will get us nowhere, because “we are where we are.” It is time to fight. Yes, Reagan fought the left, but the Democrats were saner back then, seen by Tip O’Neill, who was willing to work with Reagan.

I came of age in the Reagan area, and I too prefer a more civil political climate. But that is not the America we live in now. Reagan’s policies and style were perfectly calibrated to deal with the specific problems and specific political environment of the late 1970s. Today, however, a good deal of Reaganism is obsolete. Not only has stagflation disappeared and the Soviet Union collapsed but Reagan himself would be a fish out of water in the dark, roiled currents of today.

But Lincoln wouldn’t. His political environment was even more roiled than the one we have now. And Lincoln would have seen that, in this environment, an environment made by a gangster clan of Democrats like Obama and Hillary, you don’t get very far with Reagan’s gentlemanly style. In short, Trump is the man of the hour, not Reagan. Trump has the chance to do what Reagan never even dreamed about, taking a page from Lincoln and smashing the Democratic plantation.

When President Trump first announced his candidacy, I yearned for him to leave. It was a publicity stunt. However, the outcome on the election day and, most importantly, his policies outcomes proved me wrong (to date). I misjudged the times we are living in now – with gangsta Democrats. They are the one who have “roiled” American politics, and by comparison, the GOP were the only gentlemen and gentlewomen left. Too polite, too courteous, however. Admirable qualities, but still they must fight – fight while smiling and saying, “Thank you,” and “God bless you,” as they debate and rip the Democrat’s head off.

For D’Souza, where Lincoln and Trump align is on two issues: tariffs and immigration. Lincoln favored protecting a young America’s interest as this nation launched out into the oceans. Trump does, too, and recently scored a victory for our side when Europe blinked. As for immigration, D’Souza has to say Lincoln favored freeing the slaves at the start of the Civil War and only gradually favored extending civil rights to them. From this fact – or his interpretation of this belief about Lincoln – he concludes that Lincoln would have been a strong proponent of limiting immigration. That is a leap – but is it a leap too far?

The most striking paragraph is this one, in which he mentions the Stockholm syndrome among conservative intellectuals.

For too long conservatives and Republicans have allowed big lies to take over the culture and, in some cases, their minds. This progressive cultural hegemony has polluted our education system and our media with fake narratives and fake history. It has also created a kind of Stockholm syndrome among conservative intellectuals. “In our hearts we know we’re wrong.” But we’re not wrong. We’ve been lied to. It’s time for us to stop apologizing – we have nothing to apologize for – and go on the offensive. Truth is our deadliest weapon, if we will deploy it.

When I was putting myself through graduate school, I wrestled with conservatism and liberalism. I never left conservative philosophy, but I may have been suffering from a minor case of Stockholm syndrome. “In my heart I know I’m wrong about conservatism.” Or “In my heart conservatism makes the most sense of the world.” Mental tennis match. Progressive cultural hegemony polluted my mind, up to a point. I returned to conservatism long ago.

To key off what D’Souza wrote, I was wrong about Trump – or I let his deficient personality and rhetorical skills blind me to what conservatism really needed: a fighter. I caught a glimpse of it when he climbed a fence and stomped through sage brush to get to an arena, because the howling left had blocked his limo during the campaign. But I dismissed this gesture. Maybe Reagan would have done it, because he did walk on to a University of California campus when protesters were there. But they kept silent and made a path for him. Would he have stomped through the brush? Tough to say. But one gets the impression that Lincoln would have – since he had lived a hardscrabble life.

To sum up, one area where Lincoln and Trump are definitely aligned is that they are both fighters. Lincoln was willing to sacrifice thousands and thousands of lives to preserve the Union. Thankfully, Trump does not have to wage a military civil war, but he is preserving the Union in small ways and big ways: SCOTUS nominees, tax cuts, reining in the bureaucracy, being tough on Russia (he really is), and negotiating with a man-child named Kim.

D’Souza capitalized on this similarity, too.



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Dinesh D'Souza



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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    5 years ago

This article was published on July 28, 2018. I will leave it out over night, to be filed away later for the group.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    5 years ago

Great article from a great source and author.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    5 years ago

D'nesh D'Souza is probably the worst "historian" alive. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2    5 years ago

I kind of knew you were going to say that!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    5 years ago
Dinesh Joseph D'Souza is an Indian-born American conservative political commentator, author, filmmaker, and conspiracy theorist, often described as a far right provocateur by media sources.
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    5 years ago

Any thoughts on the premise of the article?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    5 years ago

8%, 4% , and 0%.  Do you know what those are Vic?  Those are the Rotten Tomatoes ratings for D'Souza's last three 'documentaries'. 

He is about as factually accurate as Trump. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    5 years ago
Any thoughts on the premise of the article?

Do you mean beyond "ludicrous" ? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.5  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.4    5 years ago
Do you mean beyond "ludicrous" ? 

How so?  Or are you only up to trashing authors and articles without any discussion of content?

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.1.6  1stwarrior  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.5    5 years ago

And, you expected what else????

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.1.7  cjcold  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.5    5 years ago

By all I have read, Lincoln was an intelligent thoughtful man. Trump has neither intelligence or a thoughtful personality. He is an ignorant, nasty fool.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.8  XXJefferson51  replied to  1stwarrior @2.1.6    5 years ago

I expected absolutely nothing else.  

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.2  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @2    5 years ago

Ahhhh - by whose standards other than yours, John?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    5 years ago
A long time ago, I thought Dinesh D'Souza was just wrong about some things -- that he was in possession of a rascally mind that enjoyed reflexive contrarianism. I reviewed his book  Illiberal Education: The Politics of Race and Sex on Campus  in 1991 and found some of it persuasive. He seemed a bright and provocative writer, a conservative voice with an edge, perhaps more interested in political polemics than he pretended but firmly grounded in the world of facts.

But somewhere in the intervening decades he revealed himself as a partisan hack prepared to do anything to curry favor with a certain underserved segment of our society, the perpetually aggrieved and paranoid who tend to believe in wide-ranging "liberal" conspiracies, faked presidential birth certificates and the virtue of Donald J. Trump. Somewhere along the line D'Souza became a celebrity and a culture war mascot Twitter-shaming the Parkland High shooting survivors. Whatever talent he may have had he long ago betrayed.

D'Souza once seemed courageous for challenging the assumptions of a smug majority; now he produces dubious history for those who need alternate facts to help them sleep. And the saddest thing is that he's not very good at it: his latest "movie" is risible, landing dangerously close to the sort of skewed reality parodies Sacha Baron Cohen produces. Were it funnier, we might take it for a comedy.

As it is, it presents as a  Drunk History  version of a bitter junior college political science adjunct's screed about how the Democrats -- and the Illuminati -- have always been the source of America's problems. In D'Souza's telling, Franklin Roosevelt and Adolf Hitler were members of a mutual admiration society, the Ku Klux Klan is to the Democrats what the Brown Shirts were to Hitler and Trump is Lincoln-esque and might once again save America from the Democrats.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3    5 years ago

I was hoping you could speak for yourself tonight. Was I expecting too much?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    5 years ago

You admit that the article is from 2018. In fact , the article is an excerpt from D'Souza's book "Death Of A Nation"  which itself was a companion to his movie of the same title.  That would be the movie which has a 0 % rating on Rotten Tomatoes.  Are you seeing how I AM on topic yet Vic? 

You seeded something that was roundly dismissed as laughable. 

(Bolding by me)

But natural rights are not the same as civil rights. Civil rights are the product of living in a particular community. The community is a social compact between the citizens who have formed that community. These existing citizens have the right to decide who gets to be a member of their club, and on what terms.

For this reason, Lincoln insisted that opposition to slavery and the extension of civil protections to blacks were two separate issues. Before the war Lincoln was committed to fighting only for the former; only after the war did he move tentatively in the direction of the latter.

It follows from this that Lincoln would have agreed with Trump that natives are prior to immigrants, and that natives are the ones who get to decide who is allowed to immigrate, and in what number, and on what conditions. This, by the way, applies to decisions both about legal and illegal immigration.

But hold it, the progressive will say. “America is a nation of immigrants. Immigrants are the ones who made America.” Actually, this is only a partial truth. As the founders and Lincoln all recognized, the first Americans were not immigrants. They were settlers. There’s a difference.

Lincoln's belief that blacks were not worthy of full rights in our society is widely considered to be his greatest failing as a leader and as a humanitarian.  D'Souza takes this obvious and sad failing of Lincoln's and uses it as a reason and rationale to prevent immigration in 2018.  To say that is a jaw dropper would be puting it mildly. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    5 years ago

Admit?

Like he ever denied it?

Look at post #1.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.3  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    5 years ago

Absolutely yes!  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    5 years ago

Most people would be ashamed to post a seed based on a D'nesh D'Souza movie or book, but we are not that lucky. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4    5 years ago
Most people

Who are most people?  The radical left?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    5 years ago

Is it just me, or does the air seem rather heavy with irony tonight?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5  seeder  Vic Eldred    5 years ago

Be back in a few. Maybe somebody will be interested in the historical comparison.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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6  Perrie Halpern R.A.    5 years ago

Vic, I am closing this article since the American thinker is does not fall out on the main line of the MBFC. Please feel free to post another article. 

 
 

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