Ammon Bundy Refuses To Wear A Mask, Ruins High School Football Game | Talking Points Memo
By: Matt Shuham (TPM)
Anti-government activist Ammon Bundy ruined a high school football game in Idaho Friday night by refusing to wear a mask, leading school officials to cancel the leading school officials to cancel the game at halftime.
These people openly challenged
Federal law enforcement. There
were no consequences for them.
Of course... they're White
ultra-conservatives, so they get
kid-glove treatment.
Imagine if they were Black...
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Anti-government activist Ammon Bundy ruined a high school football game in Idaho Friday night by refusing to wear a mask, leading school officials to cancel the game at halftime.
Ammon Bundy, the leader of an anti-government militia... An armed anti-government militia group continues to occupy the Malheur National Wildlife Headquarters
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After school officials repeatedly insisted that he put on a mask while on school property, to no avail, they called the game.
Bundy hung around afterward, outside the stadium, and arguing with attendees about history and his right not to wear a mask.
In a video after the game was called off, Bundy compared himself to Jews in Germany in the 1930s and Black people in the Jim Crow South.
"When I was standing there and my family was standing there, I honestly could imagine, accurately I believe, what a Jewish person felt in the 30s in Germany," he said. "Especially the beginning, how they were discriminated against, they were told that it was a health crisis to have them in their society because their genes were inferior."
The right-wing activist, who in 2016 led an armed multi-week occupation of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon, has in recent months taken up the cause of opposing public health orders to stem the spread of COVID-19. He was arrested twice at the Idaho state legislature last month and was subsequently barred from the capitol grounds for a year.
On Friday, according to Bundy and local reports, Caldwell School District shut down the game after Bundy refused to wear a mask on school grounds. Video from Bundy shows a coach from Emmett asking Bundy to cooperate with the school. The game's cancellation, the coach said, "is going to harm a lot of people."
"You know what's going to harm more people? Allowing this stuff to go on," Bundy replied. "You know that coach!"
Caldwell Police Department spokesman Joey Hoadley subsequently said, "Canyon County dispatch began receiving multiple calls from unidentified callers threatening acts of violence at the game stemming from the dispute over masks, at which time the decision was made to cancel the game for the safety of students and fans."
Bundy posted several videos of the night, including one showing parents and students leaving the stadium at Caldwell High School.
"I'm furious, this is bullshit," Bundy filmed one woman telling him. "These are kids, if you can't just keep your mouth shut, stay home."
"I don't give two shits what you have to say, you've ruined it for everybody!" the woman added, as Bundy tried to explain his position.
Emmett led the game 35-0 at the half, KTVB noted.
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He cost his kid the game!
He didn't cost the kids the game. The school and pandemic however did.
The mask Nazi's strike again!
I am so sick to death of you anti-maskers
Helluva guy, eh, Sparty?
What's that got to do with this seeds topic? Nothing and yet it stays in this group considering the people who posted it.
That said your "gotcha moment" falls flat on its face. I could care less what this guy thinks about those things or for that matter if he pisses sitting down. That's his business, not mine or yours.
But you appear to want to make it your business ...... which is just said .
Plurals NEVER take an apostrophe! For God's sake, PLEASE learn English!
I always know when I've got your goat.
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According to what I've read, the game was ended because unidentified callers to 911 were making threats, not because Bundy was present without a mask. The nature of the threats was not disclosed.
Further, I would be interested to know if the players and field officials were wearing masks. I doubt that they were.
Interesting thought and good catch. If school policy is a mask on school grounds, and they weren't wearing, this whole thing would be kind of a moot point. Goose/gander thing. And they would have been a hell of a lot closer to others than some guy in the outer extremes of the end zone.
More or less my thinking on this. I'm not anti-mask, even though I have some skepticism concerning its efficacy. Even so, I wear one when I'm around others in public, both out of politeness and the sense that it can't hurt. But, I'm totally against blind, slavish obedience to mask wearing simply for the sake of a rule. Or put another way, wearing a mask "because you're supposed to", even though common sense says it's pointless.
In this case, it doesn't make much sense to me to have a cow about what Bundy was doing if the players, along with the refs, weren't wearing masks, either. Having a bunch of heavy breathers in close proximity for a few hours sort of makes all the mask wearing in the stands pointless, since most of those are going to be friends and, more importantly, family of the players. If there is infection there, wearing the masks aren't going to make much, if any, difference. The players will infect each other and bring it home to all the mask wearing family members in the stands.
Since this seems rather obvious, the kerfuffle with Bundy isn't about safety, but seems more like scene from the movie, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, where the non-conformists are screeched at as not being part of the collective. That's what I really hate about things like this. Not being allowed to use common sense, but rather, having to slavishly obey some rule simply for the sake of following the rule. It considers us too stupid to use common sense on our own so we have to let someone else do our thinking for us.
How dare he compare himself to Jews in Nazi Germany!
Does Ammon Bundy really strike you as someone who has the least understanding of history?
Uh, no. He's that guy in my 11th grade history class who was more concerned about the next party than actually participating in class
That woman deserves an ice cream cone with sprinkles
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So he was denied entry and watched from behind the end-zone.
What's the problem?
According to the article the problem was he was still maskless on school property
Yes. Of course... to know that, one would have to actually read the article... as one agreed to do when joining this Group.
I get the impression that some people joined without paying any attention to the rules....
Shocking, isn't it??
If that is really the case fair enough but my point is how draconian was the schools reaction. Was he "socially distanced" enough that a mask wouldn't be reasonably required?
My guess is that he was and the school still reacted the way they did.
Wrong, reference 4.1.2 and talk amongst yourselves .....
Based on... ?
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He was outside the end zone. Lots of people watch the game from outside the endzone do they?
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Dunno. Never been there.
Why do you imagine that I would know?
They did when my son played many moons ago. They used to set up lawn chairs.
They did in my home town as well but my point was most HS football fields have no stands in the endzones. None in our area do. It's usually not stadium or bleacher seating like is typical on each sideline. Easily social distanced.
People have more to worry about at the gas pump or grocery store than outside the endzone of a HS football game.
BUT when asked to put it on he should have put it on or left SINCE it was the policy of the school. Hie attempt at martyrdom is asinine.
Schools reactions has been draconian for a while now. Draw a picture of a gun and you get suspended. Chew your poptart into the shape of a gun and you get suspended. Over-reaction is the rule of the day.
With that said, the end zone was on school property so they have the right to require a dress code. This is really no different that the signs in restaurants citing "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service". The school has a requirement that all people on property must wear masks then he really only had 2 choices. Wear a mask and stay or not wear a mask and leave. If he wants to fight the mask requirement there is a process for that but it is not done in the middle of the game like that.
Opinions do vary
The public school is on its way out. Just like the bricks and mortar colleges. Both are antiquated and ineffective business models.
Liberals are going to have to find a new method to brainwash kids in the future.
My son got in trouble for sword fighting with pencils when he was in first grade. My reaction was "c'mon! These are little boys, that's what they do!" But then I remembered all the other crap in school so I just sucked it up and counseled him about it
So would be ok to stand outside the endzone and smoke?
Please don't go so far off-topic.
Yeah....even as bold as I can be at times, even I wouldn't try to pull that one off
Me neither... but I wouldn't go someplace requiring a mask without one either.
Well, to answer that i should clarify my stance on what happened here as most people posting here were too busy with their "smart-assed" retorts to bother asking. If the school required masks on school property, as the article alludes, then his action were clearly self centered and thoughtless of the schools rules. Same goes for your smoking question i assume.
That said, if i were king i'd let people make these decisions for themselves and assure that government and municipalities don't try to legislate behavior in every little aspect of our lives. Mask rules where people gather? Great! Mask rules where people can reasonably socially distance? Not so good.
I assume outside the end-zone meets the socially distanced criteria in this case. I could be wrong but not in my experience as i've noted previously. That is if it didn't already get censored out .....
School officials asked him to mask up - guess that should be the clue that it is policy. Most schools have on school property mask up regardless of the distance - same with the hospital I work at.
You wouldn't like to know what I would do if I were queen...
Unless others were there also...and not accepted per school policy.
Again and as noted, opinions do vary on policy.
You clearly wouldn't like it if i were King either so we are even on that one.
You could be correct Sparty but rules is rules even if they sometimes suck
Wearing a mask on school property is a requirement. Whether he was socially distanced is moot. His refusal to comply with the rules is the point. Despite Bundy's personal opinion of himself, he is NOT a special snowflake with special rights.
Ah yes, another fine example from the ''Bundy Bunch''.....
Bundy arrested at Idaho Statehouse for second time in 2 days
At the risk of a spamming ticket, I pulled this out of your link:
Quoting the seed is NEVER a ticket.
My guess is that if he can get the cops defunded, he'll have almost all the guns in the neighborhood. I wonder what he's do then...
I did use this quote up thread to make a point. That's what I meant by spamming.
I was hoping that someone would read the link and pick up on that. It's just too damn funny.
Good job Trout.
A mask requirement is not the equivalent of Jews being forced to wear a yellow star on their clothes or blacks being denied service at lunch counters. Those things were directed to a specific segment of the population, the mask requirement applies to everyone.
It is ironic if that Trump loses, I think that the ridiculousness of his supporters refusing to wear protective masks that help stop the spread of the virus will have played a part in Trump's defeat.
Which is why I was so outraged when I read this
Ammon Bundy Has Just Been Banned from the Idaho State Capitol for a Year
Ammon Bundy of Emmett was arrested at the Idaho Capitol on Tuesday. He was part of a group refusing to leave the Lincoln Auditorium.
Ryan Suppe/Idaho PressI think he should get a lifetime ban.
Idaho has a new state motto. ''Support Your Village Idiot''.
OOOOOk - was he rounded up and thrown in a concentration camp, or did he go back home to his nice comfy bed?. Put on the fucking mask you twit.