Gas Cars Cheaper than EVs? Sure! You just need new math
By: YouTube
Anderson Economic Group updated their study looking at the cost to fuel internal combustion engine vehicles and EVs.
And claim that it's cheaper to fuel a mid-price gas car than it is to fuel an EV.
Big Oil has s-o-o-o many shills! I assume that Anderson Economic Group is a paid shill, but many whom you'll find all across the Internet are acting in favor of Big Oil because they believe that that is the right thing to do.
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Fact-checking can be v-e-r-y tedious. But it must be done....
Total cost of ownership, yes. But Americans have proved thru the airlines that they look at the sticker price almost only and an EV sticker price is still higher than an ICE sticker price. The sticker price for EV's is coming down but it's not below the ICE yet. I think another couple of years should allow for these to switch.
Cost to travel 100 miles is cheaper in an ICE than in an EV car based on a recent study.
As gas prices change, this of course will change. Additionally as more charging stations are installed I believe this will get cheaper on the EV side. But again, not today.
Yes. Right now, manufacturers have little incentive to lower their margins - they're selling EVs faster than they can get them out the door.
That study is precisely the one that this Youtube video shreds.
Interesting bit of information.
Hertz CEO says their Teslas are saving 50-60% on maintenance costs VS ICE
I would say maintenance is easier for them as they are a rental company. They don't have to change the oil etc. They only keep them for several years anyway so I would imagine they get rid of them before any major issues would come up.
Not true. the auto parts business for rental companies is huge and their service facilities in NY & NJ were massive.
They are meticulous when servicing vehicles so they can keep records to provethat maintenance in case of engine or transmission issues and maintaining the resale value and warranties.
In the past, former rental vehicles from known brands were highly sought after bargains at car auctions,
So much so that several Rental companies now market their own "retired" vehicles as another revenue stream.
I meant the maintenance for them on the EV will be cheaper as they don't have the same maintenance needs. By the time the EVs may start having issues, with say the batteries, they would be long gone from the company.
I'd guess that insurance has a big role.
We don't really have enough distance yet, but that's logical. A modern low-pollution ICE is very complex, much more than an electric motor. An electric motor doesn't have the crazy temperature gradient, either.
Well, after sitting through the video, the obvious problem is that the 'analysis' is based upon the typical EV driver which is not the same as the typical driver. The narrator also includes luxury EVs in discussing performance but excludes luxury EVs when discussing costs.
The glaring omission in this 'analysis' is that it is not possible to construct and operate EVs without oil. Eliminating gasoline, diesel, and kerosene fuel use would reduce oil production by half. And the need to reduce EV weight will shift toward use of more fossil fuel derived materials in the construction. Plastics are derived from oil or natural gas. EVs are not going to end dependence upon fossil fuels.
Comparing servicing costs seems rather ridiculous, too. An ICE engine can be serviced, rebuilt, and repaired. But rebuilding or repairing electrical drive train components would be prohibitive so the components will be discarded and replaced. EVs are designed to be disposable consumer products like most other electrical consumer products. And other electrical consumer products suggest that recycling EVs won't be any easier. EVs may be cheaper to service and repair but don't discount the environmental consequences resulting from disposal.
The fact checking rather obviously omits a lot of real world problems and limitations. And the facts are no less selective than the report the narrator is complaining about.
You mean the battery, right? The motors, inverters, and all that are just as "repairable" as ICE components.
The battery is a problem, of course. But there are so many people working on various solutions, that it probably will be less and less so.
Electric components are replaced, not repaired.
ICE engines can be disassembled and components can be replaced which avoids replacing the entire motor. EV motors are sealed electric motors that a service shop can't rebuild. Electric components typically require more protection from environmental conditions than does mechanical components. Sealed electrical components are more difficult to repair so replacing the entire unit has a cost advantage.
The battery is a sealed electrical component. The batteries are actually an assembly of small battery cells connected together into a pack. Breaking the seal on the battery pack in less than ideal environmental conditions creates a corrosion problem.
I think you're wrong about the possibility of intervening on electric motors, but it's not worth a he-said-she-said, and I'm not going to spend any time finding counter-evidence for a post that offers no evidence or source.
Maybe. But experience with other consumer electrical equipment says otherwise. Motors on refrigeration units, furnaces, washers & dryers, garage doors, etc. aren't rebuilt; they're scrapped and replaced.
This is cutaway view of the motor and drive train for a Chevrolet Bolt. The unit is far more complex than just a motor with a sprocket. Rebuilding this type of EV motor and drive train is going to be labor intensive.
Compared to a modern ICE, with variable valve lift and all the goodies......