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Nearly 70% of Canadians think less of U.S. due to Trump tariffs: Ipsos

  
Via:  Buzz of the Orient  •  2 months ago  •  79 comments

By:    By Sean Boynton - Canada's Global News

Nearly 70% of Canadians think less of U.S. due to Trump tariffs: Ipsos
A new poll by Ipsos for Global News found that two-thirds of Canadians think less of the U.S. as a country and are turning their backs on American products and travel.

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Nearly 70% of Canadians think less of U.S. due to Trump tariffs: Ipsos

U.S. President Donald Trump's tariff threats and talk about making Canada the 51st state have made Canadians angry — very angry.

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A new poll by Ipsos for Global News found a whopping 68 per cent of Canadians surveyed think less of the United States as a country, after Trump threatened Canada's economy with 25 per cent tariffs that were meant to go into effect this week, before being paused.

Nearly half of all respondents, 46 per cent, said they strongly held that negative perception.

"What surprised me is the intensity of the responses," said Sean Simpson, senior vice president of Ipsos Public Affairs.

The high number of people voicing strong opinions, he said, means "this isn't some idea they have that they may or may not act on. This is something that they intend to follow through on. The feelings are visceral."

According to the poll, two-thirds of Canadians say they will be avoiding purchasing U.S.-made goods moving forward, as a "Buy Canadian" movement grows in response to Trump's economic threats.

A similar number said they would also avoid travel to the U.S., with 45 per cent saying they felt strongly about their decision.

Simpson said the anger toward the U.S. was strongest among respondents aged 55 and over who have a deeper historical understanding of the bilateral relationship, after watching past U.S. presidents work well with Canada.

"All of those conventions are laying in shambles at the feet of Donald Trump," he said. "And so older Canadians are saying, 'My gosh, what is going on here?'"

He pointed out that older Canadians are also more likely to be snowbirds that live in the U.S. part-time, making their decision to cancel travel south of the border notable.

The poll also spoke to the economic insecurity Trump's threats have created among Canadians. Nearly 60 per cent of those surveyed said their own personal financial situation would suffer due to Trump's actions.

Sixty per cent said they want the federal government to create a "major" subsidy program, similar to the ones launched during the COVID-19 pandemic, to support workers affected by U.S. tariffs and retaliatory actions from Canada.

Federal officials announced a process for impacted businesses to request "exceptional relief" before Trump and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau reached a deal on Monday that paused the tariffs for 30 days. That pause means the relief program, as well as retaliatory tariffs, were also put on hold.

While attitudes toward the U.S. were more clear, Canadians appear split on whether political leaders at home will be able to "manage" Trump. Just under half responded positively, while 38 per cent said they somewhat or strongly disagree.

That lack of resounding confidence reflects not just on Trudeau but also the Liberal leadership candidates vying to replace him — as well as Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre, whose party still leads in election opinion polls, but by a narrowing margin.

"At the moment, it seems that the ballot question is moving to who's best able to deal with Canadian-American relations," Darrell Bricker, CEO of Ipsos Public Affairs, told Global News.

Simpson noted that support for political leaders is higher in Ontario, where provincial Progressive Conservative Party Leader Doug Ford is running for re-election as premier. Ford has said his snap election call was to secure a stronger mandate to protect the province from Trump's tariff threats.

Political support is lowest in western provinces like Alberta, which Simpson said reflects the continued negative views there of the federal Liberal government.

"This is going to be a critical question for all of our leaders to establish themselves as the person who's best able to deal with Donald Trump, if anybody can," he said.

These are some of the findings of an Ipsos poll conducted between January 30 and February 3, 2025, on behalf of Global News. For this survey, a sample of 1,000 Canadians aged 18+ was interviewed online. Quotas and weighting were employed to ensure that the sample's composition reflects that of the Canadian population according to census parameters. The precision of Ipsos online polls is measured using a credibility interval. In this case, the poll is accurate to within ± 3.8 percentage points, 19 times out of 20, had all Canadians aged 18+ been polled. The credibility interval will be wider among subsets of the population. All sample surveys and polls may be subject to other sources of error, including, but not limited to coverage error, and measurement error.


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Buzz of the Orient
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1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient    2 months ago

How to win friends and influence people?  I have a feeling Trump has never read this book:

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Krishna
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1.1  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1    2 months ago
I have a feeling Trump has never read this book:

BTW I have read that book-- but FWIW I hope Canada remains an independent country (and friend of the United States).

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @1.1    2 months ago
"I hope Canada remains an independent country (and friend of the United States)."

I certainly hope so, and I'm pretty sure it will. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient    2 months ago

What is sad for me is that I used to love the USA - spent a lot of time there, many vacations, travelled through, across and up and down the land, attended many festivals, even owned for a while with my brother a golf condo in Florida. and now for a few reasons will never step foot there again. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.1  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2    2 months ago
even owned for a while with my brother a golf condo in Florida

A good friend of mine (originally from Virginia) married a guy who had a golf condo in Florida--  she moved in with him and still lives there. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.1.1  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @2.1    2 months ago
A good friend of mine (originally from Virginia) married a guy who had a golf condo in Florida--  she moved in with him and still lives there. 

Its in Boca. 

(I've never been there, but it looks really nice from the photos she sent me).

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @2.1.1    2 months ago
"Its in Boca." 

Our next door neighbour in Toronto had an absolutely beautiful home with a pool in Boca.  Ours was in the Hollybrook Golf and Country Club, Hallandale, just west of Hollywood. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.1.3  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1.2    2 months ago
"Its in Boca." 
Our next door neighbour in Toronto had an absolutely beautiful home with a pool in Boca.  Ours was in the Hollybrook Golf and Country Club, Hallandale, just west of Hollywood. 

I've only been to Florida a few times. Once was decades ago-- mostly Miami. In August-- didn't like the weather. 

Then I was in a spa in Pompano Beach. went there intially because they were one of the few spas in the U.S. that had a quit-smoke program. I liked the spa so much I went back several times. Christmas week-- wonderful weather.  Then in both off-peak seasons. (They had 3 seasons for rates)

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1.4  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @2.1.3    2 months ago

I wouldn't be able to count the number of times I've been to Florida, starting from the time I was a teenager.  Although I've only been there in the Winter or Spring.  

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.2  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2    2 months ago
even owned for a while with my brother a golf condo in Florida.

Interesting sentence construction. With my limited knowledge of English grammer I assume correct it is.

How about:

Even owned a golf condo in Florida my brother with?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.2.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @2.2    2 months ago

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Krishna
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2.2.2  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.2.1    2 months ago

Actually I was thinking of other possible structures, something like:

For a while I even owned a golf condo in Florida with my brother. 

Or maybe: For a while my brother and I even owned a golf condo in Florida. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.2.3  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @2.2.2    2 months ago
Actually I was thinking of other possible structures, something like:

For a while I even owned a golf condo in Florida with my brother. 

Or maybe: For a while my brother and I even owned a golf condo in Florida. 

Actually any way someone contructs their sentences is fine with me. 

But I think the sentence might be more powerful if it only expressed one idea (that you even owned a condo in the U.S.). That's the first idea.

IMO there's a second idea-- that you owned it with your brother. Which is interesting, but imo it takes away a bit from the first idea (In the U.S.). My opinion is it should be two sentences, not one-- one sentence saying you owned property in the U.S., the second sentence saying it was with your brother.

(Of course neither way is inherently better...)

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.2.4  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @2.2.2    2 months ago

Lots of possibilities.

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.2.5  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @2.2.3    2 months ago
(Of course neither way is inherently better...)

Actually the reason I thought of all this is the concept of "How sentences are structured". 

Because I recently discovered a site I really like. Its all humor (your brother might like it!). Its called "Structuring Sentences For Dummies". I like it because: 

1. Its about humor-- not really about how to structure sentences.

2. Its a strange kind of humor that I like.

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.2.6  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @2.2.5    2 months ago
Because I recently discovered a site I really like. Its all humor (your brother might like it!). Its called "Structuring Sentences For Dummies".

And now the bad news (only slightly) it on Facebook and IIRC you aren't able to access fb (?)

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.2.7  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.2.4    2 months ago
Lots of possibilities.

Depends up the individual.  There's a saying: 

In the beginner's mind, there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few.

--Zen Master Suzuki

(He believed we must approach Zen practices with  a beginner's mind . . . )

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.2.8  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @2.2.5    2 months ago
"Its a strange kind of humor that I like."

It's a strange kind of humour that you post.

 
 
 
Krishna
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3  Krishna    2 months ago

Incidentally if Canada were to become a state, it would have 2 Senators. In addition, it would have representatives in the House. 

Assuming the majority of Canadians are a bit more liberal than most Americans, Canada becoming a state would not be good politically for the Republicans!

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3    2 months ago
Incidentally if Canada were to become a state, it would have 2 Senators. In addition, it would have representatives in the House.

And then there's the issue of Greenland-- how would they vote if they were part of the U.S.?

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1.1  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.1    2 months ago
the issue of Greenland

And what if Trump sent in the U.S> military to conquer Panama-- would it become yet another of trump's new states? (Or maybe just a garden variety colony?)

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @3.1    2 months ago
"And then there's the issue of Greenland-- how would they vote if they were part of the U.S.?."

The Green Party?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.3  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @3.1.1    2 months ago
"And what if Trump sent in the U.S> military to conquer Panama"

That's even less likely than Greenland, and NO WAY is he going to get away with waging war against Canada - a NATO country that is also a member of a multi-nation Commonwealth. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1.4  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.2    2 months ago
The Green Party?

Oh of course! (Now why didn't I think of that?)

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1.5  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.3    2 months ago
That's even less likely than Greenland, and NO WAY is he going to get away with waging war against Canada - a NATO country that is also a member of a multi-nation Commonwealth.

I totally agree-- he won't wage war against Canada. 

And BTW one reason he want's Greenland is location (good early warning site if Russia ever fires missiles at North America).

But what some people aren't aware of: the U.S. already has a military base in Greenland ("Thule") and the country is perfectly OK with us having the base there.

As for Panama-- I doubt if he'd be that crazy.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.6  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @3.1.5    2 months ago
"...the country is perfectly OK with us having the base there."

The people or the government?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.7  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @3.1.5    2 months ago
"As for Panama-- I doubt if he'd be that crazy."

Are you sure about that?

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1.8  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.6    2 months ago
The people or the government?

Their current government of course.

I don't know how the people feel about it. I would imagine some feel positive about it..if it brings jobs (?). And as long as the staff there doesn't do anything negative towards the inhabitants. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.1.9  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.7    2 months ago
Are you sure about that?

No.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.10  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @3.1.8    2 months ago
"I would imagine some feel positive about it"

You actually think that anyone other than an American would want Trump running the show?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @3    2 months ago

What I couldn't understand from the beginning is why the whole nation would be considered a State when there are 10 separate provinces and 3 territories - that would make 13 States for a total of 63 

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.2.1  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.2    2 months ago
What I couldn't understand from the beginning is why the whole nation would be considered a State when there are 10 separate provinces and 3 territories - that would make 13 States for a total of 63 

I had thought about that. 

In that case the Republicans would never again control Congress! (Sometimes I wonder...could it be possible that Trump sometimes doesn't think thing through-- doesn't try to hard to see what the ultimate impact of his choices might be...???

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.2.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @3.2.1    2 months ago
"In that case the Republicans would never again control Congress!"

That's why he said ONE State.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.3  Bob Nelson  replied to  Krishna @3    2 months ago

I can't imagine Canada becoming one state.

At a minimum there would be one state for the Atlantic provinces, one for Quebec, one for Ontario, one for the plains provinces, one for the Pacific, and one for the North. At least six states. That would make the average "Canadian state" very close in population to the average "American state", but much bigger in surface.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.3.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.3    2 months ago

Thanks, Bob, but of course I'm sure there aren't very many Canadians who want where they live to become an American State.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3.3.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.3.1    2 months ago

I can see no reason for any Canadian to want to be American. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4  Right Down the Center    2 months ago

70% seems about right after what Donald has done/said recently.  That being said how much should that even matter?  Do you think Canada really cares what the people of the US thinks about their choice of leaders?  Do you think any country votes based on what Americans may think of the choice?

 
 
 
Hallux
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4.1  Hallux  replied to  Right Down the Center @4    2 months ago
You can find the 30% that do over in the comment sections of The National Post.
 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.2  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @4    2 months ago
That being said how much should that even matter? 

Yes, it should matter to you that one of our closest allies is now pissed off at us and that the reason for their anger was entirely unnecessary.   That Trump alone fucked this up and that he will continue to do this.

Surely you see that gratuitously angering our allies is counterproductive ... that it is brain-dead stupid ... and that it matters.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @4.2    2 months ago

 Do you think Canada really cares what the people of the US thinks about their choice of leaders?  Do you think any country votes based on what Americans may think of the choice?  Do you think they will get over being "pissed off"?  Do we know about every time another country's leaders say something bad about us?  Do we really give a shit or do we get over it?

Personally I would not have gone about it the way Trump did but I am not running around with my hair on fire either.  

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2.2  bugsy  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.1    2 months ago
Do we know about every time another country's leaders say something bad about us?  Do we really give a shit or do we get over it?

Apparently some think it is a huge deal and just won't get over it.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.2.3  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.1    2 months ago
Do you think Canada really cares what the people of the US thinks about their choice of leaders? 

Not presently, but that question has nothing to do with my response.   I was talking about Canadian's view of Trump and why it matters.

Do you think any country votes based on what Americans may think of the choice? 

No, but again, I was talking about Canadian's view of Trump and why it matters.

Do you think they will get over being "pissed off"? 

Yes, over time, if Trump stops fucking with them.

Do we know about every time another country's leaders say something bad about us? 

No.   Just asking silly questions now?

Do we really give a shit or do we get over it?

We should care because having one of our closest allies angry is bad.   We would prefer that they be happy or at least content.   I can explain why if this does not make sense to you.

Personally I would not have gone about it the way Trump did ...

Well that is a promising sign.

... but I am not running around with my hair on fire either.  

And of course you engage in the dishonest tactic of exaggerating any criticism of Trump and then criticizing the exaggeration you invented.   That is a strawman tactic.   It is a dishonest attempt to take a rational criticism of Trump and try to portray the critic as overly-emotional and irrational.

The theme with Trump-defense comments always seems to be dishonesty.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  bugsy @4.2.2    2 months ago
Apparently some think it is a huge deal and just won't get over it.

They seem much more pissed off about it than Canada does.  The Canadian Government is going to do what is best for their country.  It is not in the best interest of their country if they stay pissed off. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.3    2 months ago
We should care because having one of our closest allies angry is bad.   We would prefer that they be happy or at least content.   

If they are still angry that is their problem.  I don't believe they are .  It is all part of being in a relationship.  

Well that is a promising sign.

Backhanded insult noted

 And of course you engage in the dishonest tactic of exaggerating any criticism of Trump and then criticizing the exaggeration you invented.   That is a strawman tactic.   It is a dishonest attempt to take a rational criticism of Trump and try to portray the critic as overly-emotional and irrational.

Ah, the standard accusations when the spin isn't working.  The sheer volume of posts about Trump damaging international relations over the past week would lead any rational person to conclude the criticism has gone into overly-emotional and irrational.

The theme with Trump-defense comments always seems to be dishonesty.

The accusation of dishonesty if people don't buy into the Trump hysteria seems to be emotional, irrational and dishonest.

 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
4.2.6  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.5    2 months ago
If they are still angry that is their problem. 

Brilliant.   I suppose you would be perfectly content if some asshole gratuitously threatened tariffs and insulted your nation (i.e. 51st state).

The sheer volume of posts about Trump damaging international relations over the past week would lead any rational person to conclude the criticism has gone into overly-emotional and irrational.

Given Trump is indeed damaging international relationships you should not be surprised that this is a topic of discussion.

The accusation of dishonesty if people don't buy into the Trump hysteria seems to be emotional, irrational and dishonest.

No, the accusation of dishonesty when someone engages in dishonesty.

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.2.7  Krishna  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.5    2 months ago
The sheer volume of posts about Trump damaging international relations over the past week would lead any rational person to conclude the criticism has gone into overly-emotional and irrational.

Well, IMO there are actually two possibilities:

1. The criticism has gone into overly-emotional and irrational.

or

2. Its entirely valid. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.2.8  Krishna  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.5    2 months ago
The sheer volume of posts about Trump damaging international relations over the past week would lead any rational person to conclude the criticism has gone into overly-emotional and irrational

Any rational person?

So-- in your opinion-- who decides what is truly rational-- and what isn't?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.2.9  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.5    2 months ago
"If they are still angry that is their problem.  I don't believe they are .  It is all part of being in a relationship." 

Being a Canadian I can say that I am DAMNED angry, angry at what Trump has been saying about Canada, angry at what he has been doing about Canada, angry that he was elected in the first place, angry at the ignorance of Americans for electing him, and angry at your comments posted about this matter and about Canadians.  And contrary to your belief, that anger is not going to subside easily.

When a relationship goes sour, it can end in divorce - just as my first marriage did. 

 
 
 
GregTx
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4.2.10  GregTx  replied to  Krishna @4.2.8    2 months ago

The individual of course. Why? Do you think someone else should?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.6    2 months ago
Brilliant. I suppose you would be perfectly content if some asshole gratuitously threatened tariffs and insulted your nation (i.e. 51st state).

I would give it all the consideration it deserves, maybe 15 seconds, and then move on with my life

Given Trump is indeed damaging international relationships you should not be surprised that this is a topic of discussion.[]

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.2.9    2 months ago
Being a Canadian I can say that I am DAMNED angry, angry at what Trump has been saying about Canada, angry at what he has been doing about Canada, angry that he was elected in the first place, angry at the ignorance of Americans for electing him, and angry at your comments posted about this matter and about Canadians. 

That is too bad but as I said that is your problem to deal with any way you see fit.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.2.13  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.11    2 months ago
I would give it all the consideration it deserves, maybe 15 seconds, and then move on with my life

Then you are not the type of person who can understand why Canadians would be angry.

IMO when someone says the same thing again and again and again to the same half dozen people that don't buy into the severity of the damage it moves from discussion  to emotional, irrational and dishonest

Well then you need to factor in the number of comments made by those people.   Looks like you are complaining that their comments are rebutted.   Such a shame.

When someone exaggerates the importance of an issue in order to try to convince people they should share in the outrage that is dishonest.

Of course.   But just because you seem willing to dismiss most things as unimportant does not mean they are indeed unimportant.

So far your comments do not seem to identify fault with anything Trump does.   The worst criticism in your comments of Trump is that you would not necessarily handle things as he has.   But your comments sure have plenty to say about those who criticize Trump ... and almost never contain an actual argument ... just complaints about the critics.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.13    2 months ago
But just because you seem willing to dismiss most things as unimportant does not mean they are indeed unimportant.

Of course not.  Just as some folks that think everything is important does not make it important. 

I can say I am less likely to end up with an ulcer than someone that is always outraged, looking for a reason to be outraged or accusing people of everything from being partisan to unpatriotic for not understanding and sharing the outrage..

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.2.15  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.14    2 months ago

The key is the ability to back up claims.

You will be hard pressed to back up your claim that Trump's actions against Canada are unimportant and Canadians should not be angry at what Trump has done and said.

I can say I am less likely to end up with an ulcer than someone that is always outraged, looking for a reason to be outraged or accusing people of everything from being partisan to unpatriotic for not understanding and sharing the outrage..

Just demonstrates to me (yet again) that you are imagining things that are not true.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.2.17  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.12    2 months ago
"That is too bad but as I said that is your problem to deal with any way you see fit."

Which means to me that you really don't give a shit about anyone your hero harms.  Yes, Canada WILL deal with it and I hope to Hell that it effectively teaches a hard lesson.  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.18  Right Down the Center  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.11    2 months ago

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Ronin2
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4.2.19  Ronin2  replied to  TᵢG @4.2    2 months ago

I didn't vote for Trump to play nice with Canada, Mexico, or any of our so called allies.

Really not happy he of his unconditional support of Israel; or trying to foist Palestinians on surrounding Arab countries.

Our allies dictated things while Brandon was in charge; and looked how that turned out.

If our so called "allies" don't like it they can stop taking advantage of the US. Canada can pay for it's own defense. Mexico can take care of their Cartel problems; and keep their borders with the US closed to illegal immigrants.

We shouldn't have to bribe countries; or allow them to take advantage of us just so they "like us". 

Time for the rest of the world to put on their big boy pants again and actually live up to their obligations.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.2.20  TᵢG  replied to  Ronin2 @4.2.19    2 months ago
I didn't vote for Trump to play nice with Canada, Mexico, or any of our so called allies.

Such a smart move to gratuitously threaten and anger our closest trade partners.  Fucking brilliant.   And of course you defend this crap.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.21  Right Down the Center  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.2.17    2 months ago
Which means to me that you really don't give a shit about anyone your hero harms.

I don't think Iron Man hurts people that don't deserve to be hurt.  I also don't care much about all peoples feelings since there is always someone whose feelings will be hurt by pretty much everything a person does.   

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.2.22  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Ronin2 @4.2.19    2 months ago

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif .   S uch a perfect example of American bravado deserves an award.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.2.23  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.21    2 months ago
"I also don't care much about all peoples feelings..."

Wow!!!   I'm surprised Trump didn't pick you to head America's diplomatic service.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.24  Right Down the Center  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.2.23    2 months ago

He asked but I declined.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.2.25  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.2.24    2 months ago
"He asked but I declined."

We may not see eye to eye on this issue but I've got to tell you that that was the best reply to a comment - I'm still laughing. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.3  Krishna  replied to  Right Down the Center @4    2 months ago
Do you think Canada really cares what the people of the US thinks about their choice of leaders?  Do you think any country votes based on what Americans may think of the choice?

Actually I've never really thought about it-- at least not much. 

(For some strange reason I mostly think about other stuff).

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.3.1  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4.3    2 months ago

Actually I've never really thought about it-- at least not much. 

There's an old Russian saying:

Chacun à son goût

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.3.2  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4.3.1    2 months ago
There's an old Russian saying: Chacun à son goût

Or as they say in Bolivia:

One's man's meat is another man's poisson

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.3.3  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @4.3.2    2 months ago

At this point, when I should be asleep, I want to thank TiG for posting rational and defensible arguments to attempts to discredit and rewrite reality, and I want to thank Krishna for making me laugh out loud by exposing and ridiculing twisted commentary with his usual wry humour.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.3.4  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @4.3.1    2 months ago
"There's an old Russian saying:" "Chacun à son goût"

Good thing I have Russian ancestry or I never would have understood what that meant.

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.3.5  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.3.4    2 months ago
Good thing I have Russian ancestry or I never would have understood what that meant.

I myself am half Scotch and half water!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.3.6  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @4.3.5    2 months ago

Human beings are actually an average of 60% water. 

 
 
 
Thomas
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5  Thomas    2 months ago

Donald Trump's support has come from his core base supporters. In The US, this has historically been about 20-30% of the voting age population. Given the similar makeup of the population of Canada, it is not surprising that he polls the same there.

His lack of character, lack of moral underpinnings of any sort for his policies, lack of any caring for the population except as a source of votes and money, combined with his total disregard for the Constitution and Laws of the of the US makes me wonder how he could fool even that many people, until one realizes that a certain portion of the population are just plain mean, vindictive and don't care about (or even like) hurting people who they may have disagreements with. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.1  Krishna  replied to  Thomas @5    2 months ago
until one realizes that a certain portion of the population are just plain mean, vindictive and don't care about (or even like) hurting people who they may have disagreements with. 

I think that's part of it.

And IMO in some cases another principle applies. In the words of Albert Einstein:

I know of two things that are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity, and I'm not entirely sure about the former.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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7  Bob Nelson    2 months ago

While we're talking about Canada becoming American... shouldn't we also be talking about Mexico becoming American?

To stay at not quite 7 million people per state, Mexico would have to become nineteen or twenty states.

I wonder why Trump hasn't suggested this.

 
 
 
Thomas
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7.1  Thomas  replied to  Bob Nelson @7    2 months ago
I wonder why Trump hasn't suggested this.

I am thinking that you forgot your sarcasm tag...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Bob Nelson @7    2 months ago
"I wonder why Trump hasn't suggested this."

I think it would be because he doesn't understand Spanish. 

.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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7.2.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7.2    2 months ago

No hablo!

 
 

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