No Longer So Proud To Be A Canadian
No Longer So Proud To Be A Canadian
My avatar, which was a symbol of Canada's flag circled by the words "Proud to be Canadian", is now changed to being an embroidered yinyang symbol with the embroidered word "Harmony" beside it. Why? This is why....
Canada officially recognizes Palestinian state ahead of UNGA
LINK -> Canada officially recognizes Palestinian state ahead of UNGA - National | Globalnews.ca
For Canada's election I thought that Carney's great experience with economics would enable Canada and Canadians to weather Trump's unjustified and unfair Tariffs and threats (51st State) and fight back. I switched from over 40 years of voting Conservative for all levels of Canadian elections to supporting a Liberal government. Big mistake. But now that Carney has stabbed Israel in the back, I'm just too disgusted with him and his government.
There is no way I will give up my Canadian citizenship, no matter that I am living elsewhere, never to leave. I am a Canadian and will always be a Canadian. I'm still proud of and loyal to my country Canada, but just not now at all proud of its government. so as long as it is in power, or so long as it is stabbing Israel in the back, rewarding Hamas for its Oct 7 terrorism, I'm just not so proud to brag about it, or advertise it.
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I don't know if the Aussies here feel the same way, because their government joined Canada in supporting the Hamas terrorists, rewarding them for their vicious savagery on Oct 7.
Aussies plural? I know of only one NT user who who is an "Aussie" (Shona). Are there others here?
One other with whom I've had dialogues.
And besides yourself, I believe there are several Canadians on NT (maybe 5 or so?)
That must've been slightly difficult as the Aussies the Brits (and I dare say some Canadians) pronounce many words incorrectly. And to make conversation even worse, many people from those countries don't pronounce English words properly!
But I'm getting a bit off topic here, so I won't say anything more a-boot their incorrect pronounciation!
2 others that I know of.
Well, maybe that makes up for the fact that Americans don't spell a
of English words correctly.
I never said "a-boot" in my life - it's a fantasy contrived by an inferiority complex.
Evening Krishy..we spell and pronounce everything correctly here.. unlike some uneducated heathens across the Pacific we could mention...
Buzz (well he has been slightly contaminated with some US atrocities) but due to Canada's location can be forgiven..
I think you have been spending a little to much time with Devangy...
You two could almost be mistaken for twins... and no that is not a good look..🐨
Krishna was my first friend on Newsvine, and I have always considered him to be my social news site mentor. I sure as hell cannot see any comparison with that other one.
Something I should clarify: I really don't care how people in different countries pronounce words differently. (Its just my warped sense of humour-- "good nastured teasing").
I've heard it a few times-- but not from Canadians!
(Actually I've only been in Canada once-- a friends father used to rent two small cabins every summer-- pretty far North).
One summer they invited me. Deep woods, on a lake. Beautiful country. But the people that invited me kept to themselves and had little or no contact with Canadians.
So why did they rent cabins so far in the (rural) North rather than closer to where they lived in the states? Well they had a large family and invited a frew friends. Those accomodations would cost a lot to rent if much further South.
I heard "aboot" from-- Americans in the states!
Some groups who had been relatively isolated speak with the same accent past generations spoke. They live on Okracoke Island and a few other areas in North Carolina's "Outer Banks".
They live on Okracoke Island and a few other areas in North Carolina's "Outer Banks".
From Wikipedia:
High Tider , Hoi Toider , or Hoi Toide English is a family or continuum of American English dialects spoken in very limited communities of the South Atlantic United States , [ 1 ] particularly several small islands and coastal townships.
These dialects do not have a name that is uniformly used in the academic literature, with "Hoi Toider" used for the Outer Banks and mainly Ocracoke; rather, a variety of names exist based on location, such as Down East , Outer Banks , or Chesapeake Bay English , dialect , brogue , or accent . [ 3 ]
Most speakers in the Outer Banks themselves refer to their dialect as "the brogue ".The term "hoi toide" appears in a local colloquial rhyme, "It's high tide on the sound side", often phonetically spelled "hoi toide on the saind soide"
Most speakers in the Outer Banks themselves refer to their dialect as "the brogue ".The term "hoi toide" appears in a local colloquial rhyme, "It's high tide on the sound side", often phonetically spelled "hoi toide on the saind soide".
Linguists who have studied this dialect note that it has "roots ... in a number of Early Modern English dialects", [ 8 ] spoken in different parts of Britain between about 1650 and 1750.
Following settlement, the dialect of these island communities developed in relative isolation for more than 250 years.
One of our classmates was from Canada and he always said something close to "a-boot". I remember him saying "That's a-boot right." He also used to say "a wee bit" when he was referring to something small.
Following settlement, the dialect of these island communities developed in relative isolation for more than 250 years.
The distinctness of the High Tider dialects has survived because of the inherent isolation of islands and these communities continuing to depend on traditional trades, like fishing, boat building, and decoy carving.
Indeed, the coastal tourism trade is relatively recent, beginning only in the 2000s, on islands like Ocracoke, [ 10 ] [ 11 ] and still minimal on Smith Island
Even though that's way up in Canada (compared to the people in North Carolina's Outer Banks) I believe those accents in both places are derived what was the a type of accent that was spoken in England long ago.
When I first heard people refer to a "Southern accent" I had thought of one type of accent. And also a few unusual phrases such as "Y'all" (and the less common All y'all",
Or the term "Meemaw".
But there are actually a few variations of the "standard" Southern Accent.
I appreciate your comments, but they're getting somewhat really off topic.
There's an American word for the storage compartment in the rear of a vehicle-- in the U.S its called " a trunk ".
What do Canadians call it?
(They say that in court lawyers never ask a question they don't know the answer to so I guess I'm trying to play lawyer here
)
A trunk. When it's about cars, Canadians use the American words, not the British ones. Hood, not bonnet, and tires, not tyres.
Arvo Krishy ..and never ever loose your sense of humour..(note the correct spelling)..😁
Do that and we really are stuffed..😊
Over all the years I've known him, I have really enjoyed his wry sense of humour.
Does he use words such as the dreaded "aboot"?
Does he use colorful language-- or perhaps even colourful language?
IIRC the frequent use of "Wee" (for "small") is especially common amongst Scottish people....?
I really don't care to say anything more about "Devangy..." than I already have.
Arvo...nah he just bags out my sand bar in fun and I return the compliments...and says we talk funny and don't spell things correctly
I just don't see it myself..🐨
Evening...to be perfectly honest Buzz I really don't give a flying fig about it..I for one certainly won't be getting bent out of shape over it..
They have been fighting and squabbling for thousands of years and really don't think it will make the slightest bit of difference with the mentality on either side...
I have always backed Israel and always will.. The government's decision here will be reviewed at the next election as part of the debate and voted on accordingly by the people...that's the beauty of a Democracy..
UK, Canada, Australia, France, Belgium, Portugal, China has recognised Palestine since 1988 was one of the first countries to do so. I didn't know that...New Zealand is deciding at the moment. My guess is it will be yes as well...
151 out of 193 countries now recognise the State of Palestine so has that made a real lot of difference over the years? Not that I can see..
So no I really don't think it will make any difference with recognition or not..both sides will continue on as before just like they have for centuries...
I am incapable of ever declaring "a pox on both your houses". I have personally witnessed the Palestinian's terrorism.
I think you're right! The Arab (actually Muslim) propaganda machine is pretty good at what it does. FWIW they have a big majority in the UN General Assembly.
And they've also got YUGE amounts of oil
Oh I almost forgot-- they could conceivably block the flow of oil through the Straits of Hormuz !
(Sorry Buzz-- that's a link to Wikipedia. But I figure that's OK with you as I;m sure know all about that).
Oil is the reason the Brits fucked the Jews at the time of partition, which is why there is such a fooferaw about a Palestinian State these days, the West Bank should never have happened - not sure about Gaza.
At one point Gaza had been occupied-- by Egypt! The Egyptian rule was harsh...
Then there was the "Six Day War" (1967). Israel won-- and Israel captured Gaza from Egyptian control. Israel now occupied Gaza.
Unlike under Egyptian, Gaza thrived under Israeli occupation. (They built up businesses and many Gazans found work.)
But in 2005 Israel unilaterally decided to end the occupation and totally withdrew in 2005.
Things were going pretty good for the Gazans until Oct 7. Hamas HAD to have known what was going to happen when they attacked Israel, so that indicates that it is more important to them for Israel to be destroyed than for Gazans to have peace and planty, and THAT means that even if they get their Palestinian State, nothing will stop them from trying to destroy Israel.
Morning Krishy.. well considering it was recognised as a State back in 1988 it hasn't made the slightest bit of difference.
Here we are nearly 40 years down the track and....they are still fighting and squabbling and lobbing rockets etc at each other, bombings, suicides etc etc.
Palestine is a basket case and always will be until the Palestinians wake up and realise Hamas has literally taken them for a ride...
I am sure the Palestinian people are greatly comforted by the fact that the Hamas leaders are living in great comfort and style in Iran and have literally left their own people to it..
Perhaps one day the Palestinians will wake up to Hamas, but I wouldn't hold my breath..
Why should Palestinians care about anything other than wanting to destroy Israel and rule "From the river to the sea" (i.e. all of Israel, the West Bank and Gaza), while they have no reason to do anything beneficial for themselves as usual and nothing for the rest of the world so long as they are being spoonfed by UNRWA?
I think you may be right.
The important thing may turn out to be resolving the question of what land is "Palestine". will have.
Probably at least Gaza. (Many westerners don't realize that Gaza had been occupied by Israel-- and then the Israelis unilaterally decided to end the Occupation of Gaza-- so they moved out and the Occupation of Gaza ended!
But then they called it a concentration camp because Israel had no choice but to try its best to control the importation of weapons by Hamas. Notwithstanding that, Israel provided to Gaza water, electricity, allowed aid and usual imports, allowed 18,000 Gazans to work in Israel, admitted persons with serious medical conditions to be treated at Israeli hospitals, allowed UNRWA to spoonfeed the multigenerations of "refugees" and teach them to hate Israel and Jews.
Don't feel bad about this Buzz. All 4 of those governments happen to be left-wing (for the time being.) In the case of France they took in so many Muslims and made them citizens that they now have Muslim voters to consider. I would ask these governments how many terrorist hostage taking entities do they normally recognize as "states?"
Say what you will about the US President, he knows the difference between a democracy and a gang of thugs.
You're absolutely right about the Muslims in France. Now it makes it obvious why France has taken such a strong position sucking up to them. Are there politicians to whom integrity is more important? I can think of at least one in the USA - do you know who she is?
Here is the nugget of hope: there is polling in all those countries showing widespread disagreement by the population on recognizing a Palestinian state.
It that were really true, the existing governments might get an unexpected surprise at the next election. And according to present poll results in the USA....
Who is the woman of integrity?
I've described her many times on NT as having integrity, her personal principles more important even than loyalty to her Party, and I'll bet there has to be someone here on NT who knows who I mean.
LOL Of course you would know.
Based on what I know of the history of the so-called "Palestinians", whenever they begin to control some lsnd,,,they to to fight amongst themselves as to who should govern it.
Or they just walk away from it when 95% and then 97% of their demands are met, because of the kicker that they were required to recognize that all the land they really want, from the river to the sea, had to be recognized to be a Jewish State.
Prior to the re-eastablishment of the Jewish state (Israel) the thought of that happening was upsetting to some Muslims. (Especially since there was already one non-Muslim country in the area-- Israel would mean two non-Muslim countries in the area-- a veritable shonda!).
When the French mandate of Syria was soon to end, rather than creating one large country "Syria" the French gerrymanderd it! The entire area was mainly Muslim, and the French thought it might end up as one large Muslim country-- possibly unfriendly to Christian France.
But there was a narrow strip along the Mediteranean that was predominently Christian. So instead of giving independence to one large (mainly Muslim) country (to be called "Syria") they created two countries. A large Muslim country of Syria-- but also a second predominently Christian country to be called "Lebanon". At its creation (IIRC it was 1946) Lebanon was a Christian country.
Over time, many Indigenous Lebanese Christians were persecuted, so many emigrated-- many came to the U.S.
Two examples:
-Danny Thomas' parents were Lebanese (Christian) immigrants.
-Darrell Issa's father was the son of Lebanese Catholic immigrants, He himself was a highly sucessful businessman and a prominent conservative Republican congressman in California/'s Orange county. IIRC he eventually resigned and later ran again in a different district.
Arabs named "Issa" are Christians, ("Issa" is the Arabic word for "Jesus").