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Memories of Toronto

  
By:  Buzz of the Orient  •  4 weeks ago  •  32 comments


Memories of Toronto
 

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Having left Toronto in 2006  after living there for decades, I have memories of it, but mostly of iconic buildings and scenes, such as....

Toronto's most famous building, the City Hall.

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Kensington Market.  I had a client who lived in that community.  As well, a soft-rock band I was friends with was called Kensington Market, named after that Toronto area.

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The Casa Loma, Toronto's only real castle, open for tours

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The Flatiron Building - always fascinated me.

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Osgoode Hall, home of the Province's Supreme Court and the law school I attended.  It was next to the City Hall on one side and across University Avenue from the American Consulate .

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Queen's Park, the seat of the Ontario provincial government

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The Royal Alexandra Theatre - I spent many evenings there - it was a 3 minute walk from my downtown office.  I watched through the window of my office a Sikorsky helicopter plant the main antenna on top of the CN Tower.  

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You really need to see the lush interior

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University of Toronto, one of Canada's 3 top universities.  The other two are McGill University in Montreal and University of British Columbia in the Vancouver area. 

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Buzz of the Orient
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1  author  Buzz of the Orient    4 weeks ago

Actually, Toronto wasn't my original Home Town.  I was born and grew up in Hamilton, Ontario, which is located at the far western end of Lake Ontario about 40 miles from Toronto.  I got my B.A. at Hamilton's McMaster University, famed for having the first experimental nuclear reactor on a university campus in the British Commonwealth.  

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Hallux
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2  Hallux    4 weeks ago

Surprised you left out The Royal Ontario Museum

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... and the Aga Khan Museum

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Then of course there is the area known of as The Beaches.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Hallux @2    4 weeks ago

That monstrosity in front of the museum was built in 2007, a year after I left Toronto.  It makes me think of a line spoken by the police character played in the movie The Da Vinci Code by Jean Reno about the glass pyrimid in front ot The Louvre: "It is a scar on the face of Paris."  I don't think the Aga Khan museum was there when I was.

Yes, there are other areas of Toronto that for me are memorable.  I lived in Hogg's Hollow, a/k/a York Mills Valley, for a couple of decades - we raised our kids there back then, and I hung out a lot in Yorkville. 

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.1  Hallux  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1    4 weeks ago
That monstrosity ...

Chacun ses goûts et ses couleurs ...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1.2  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Hallux @2.1.1    4 weeks ago

Oui, mon ami.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    4 weeks ago

All nice pictures. I think in general Americans dont know as much about Canada as they should. 

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1  Hallux  replied to  JohnRussell @3    4 weeks ago

18 year old Americans know what the drinking age up here is.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.1.1  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Hallux @3.1    4 weeks ago
"18 year old Americans know what the drinking age up here is."

LOL  Probably true.

 
 
 
charger 383
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3.1.2  charger 383  replied to  Hallux @3.1    4 weeks ago

I remember that being the age here. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.2  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @3    4 weeks ago

Yes, it's most likely Canadians know a lot more about America than Americans know about Canada.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.2    4 weeks ago

i dont think there is any doubt about that

 
 
 
Krishna
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4  Krishna    4 weeks ago

The Flatiron Building - always fascinated me.

Interestingly, New York City also has a Flatiron Building as well. 

(But I imagine you already knew that because IIRC you had said you had lived in NYC for a while.)

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.1  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4    4 weeks ago
Interestingly, New York City also has a Flatiron Building as well

Also-- an area called Yorkville!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.2  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @4    4 weeks ago

Although I have visited NYC many times during my life, starting from when I was 16 years old, I have never lived there.  I did know there was a Flatiron Building in NYC, but did not know there was a Yorkville.  Yorkville in Toronto was the hippie coffeehouse area in Toronto during the 60s, perhaps similar to Greenwich Village in NYC back then.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.2.1  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.2    4 weeks ago

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Krishna
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4.2.2  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.2    3 weeks ago
Yorkville in Toronto was the hippie coffeehouse area in Toronto during the 60s, perhaps similar to Greenwich Village in NYC back then.

Yorkville in NYC is different-- never been a "Hippie neighbourhood". In the past the residents were mostly European immigrants, particularly Germans also Hungarians, Irish, etc. IIRC its centered around East 86th Street which used to be known for some really excellent (and reasonably priced ) German restaurants. 

For a while it was also home to the pro-Nazi German American Bund!

Many famous people have lived there including Lou Gehrig, James Cagney,.. I believe even President Obama lived there for a while...

Gracie Mansion, the official residence of the NYC mayor is in Yorkville.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.2.1    3 weeks ago

the people in the picture dont look like hippies to me

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.2.4  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.3    3 weeks ago

LOL.  Those are the people who came out to SEE the hippies.  The hippies are in and are running the coffee houses.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.2.4    3 weeks ago

thats a pretty big crowd to gawk at hippies

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.2.6  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @4.2.2    3 weeks ago

Did I make a mistake about the name of the NYC hippie area during the 60s?  Where is (was?) The Bitter End and Izzie Young's Folklore Center?  Izzie once gave me and the girl I was with the keys to his store to run for him when he went away for a weekend.  He used to live above the store.  We didn't sell much more than some guitar strings, but I can still remember the cockroaches in the bathtub.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.2.7  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.5    3 weeks ago

Well, okay, maybe Toronto hippies don't dress like San Francisco ones.

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.2.8  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.2.6    3 weeks ago
Did I make a mistake about the name of the NYC hippie area during the 60s?  Where is (was?) The Bitter End and Izzie Young's Folklore Center? 

The confusion is because both Toronto and NYC have an area called "Yorkville". However the one in NYC isn't (and never was) a Hippie area. The one in NYC used to be mainly blue collar, immigrants from Europe and especially Germans, Eastern Europe. Its centered around the East 80's.

The area you remember that used to be the Hippie/Beatnik area is further downtown on the West side-- it was  Greenwich Village (mainly between Houson St and 14th St, from the Hudson (Western) River to Broadway. That was the classic "Hip scene".

Later it continued Eastward from Broadway all the way to the East River. That is called The East Village. (After 1st Avenue there are Avenues A,B,C, and D.)

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.2.9  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4.2.8    3 weeks ago
Later it continued Eastward from Broadway all the way to the East River. That is called The East Village. (After 1st Avenue there are Avenues A,B,C, and D.)

The East Village used to be mainly Hippies and Puerto Rican gangs, Lots of crime and drugs. But its become gentrified and is now considered a desirable neighbourhood.

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.2.10  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4.2.9    3 weeks ago
The East Village used to be mainly Hippies and Puerto Rican gangs, Lots of crime and drugs. But its become gentrified and is now considered a desirable neighbourhood.

The trend in Manhattan is for some of the worst neighbourhoods to become very trendy. For example much of Harlem used to be considered an undesirable (and in parts dangerous) neighbourhood. Now much of it is considered very desirable.

(Same for the Lower East Side)

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.2.11  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @4.2.8    3 weeks ago

Okay, then it WAS Greenwich Village.  I actually had an elderly cousin who lived there, but he wasn't a hippie or beatnick..

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.2.12  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.2.11    3 weeks ago
Okay, then it WAS Greenwich Village.  I actually had an elderly cousin who lived there, but he wasn't a hippie or beatnick.

Parts of that area are very nice-- brownstones, tree lined streets. Long ago rents were relatively low, so artists & poets had studios there. Parts of the area attracted hippies. also gays. (Christopher Street was famous for its gay bars.

Further East also attracted creative types as well. There was a famous bar, later turned Music venue you may have heard of: CBGB.

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.2.13  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4.2.12    3 weeks ago
Christopher Street was famous for its gay bars.

Christopher Street ran all the way West to the river. (At the end of Christopher Street was a bar called "Christopher's End").

Much of the gay scene of the West Village has gone just North to Chelsea.

And in those general areas  there were some Off-off- Broadway shows, poetry readings etc

But now rents in most of Manhattan have really gone up. And if you see a Hippie living there they are probably wealthy hippies or have had rent stabilized apartments handed down from their parents. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.2.14  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @4.2.13    3 weeks ago

Here's a really good comparison of the West Village and Chelsea:

Chelsea and Greenwich Village are adjacent, high-demand neighborhoods on the West Side of Lower Manhattan in New York City, separated by 14th Street. [ 1 , 2 , 3 ]
Overview & Boundaries
  • Chelsea: Bordered roughly by 14th Street to the south, the Hudson River to the west, Sixth Avenue to the east, and up into the upper 20s/34th Street to the north. Known for art galleries, modern high-rises, and industrial conversions. [ 1 , 2 , 3 ]
  • Greenwich Village (including the West Village): Bordered by 14th Street to the north, Houston Street to the south, the Hudson River to the west, and Broadway to the east. Known for historic brownstones, low-rise architecture, and tree-lined, non-grid streets. [ 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 ]
Key Highlights & Attractions
    • Chelsea:
      • The High Line: A 1.45-mile elevated linear park built on historic freight rails.
      • Chelsea Market: A popular indoor culinary and shopping destination inside a former Nabisco factory.
      • Art District: Hundreds of contemporary art galleries clustered heavily between West 18th and West 27th Streets. [ 1 , 2 , 3 ]
  • Greenwich Village:
    • Washington Square Park: The vibrant neighborhood center featuring the iconic arch and fountain.
    • Music & Culture: Historic jazz and performance clubs like the Blue Note and the Village Vanguard.
    • Landmarks: The Stonewall Inn and historic 19th-century brownstones. [ 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 ]
Getting Between Them
  • Walking: Takes about 10 to 20 minutes depending on your exact starting and ending points across 14th Street.
  • Subway: The 1, A, C, or E trains run directly between the neighborhoods in about 6 to 7 minutes (e.g., from 23rd St to Spring St or West 4th St). [ 1 , 2 ]
  • Local Groups: Business and community coordination is supported by the Greenwich Village Chelsea Chamber of Commerce . [ 1 ]
 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.2.15  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @4.2.14    3 weeks ago

Thanks for all the info.

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.2.16  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.2.15    3 weeks ago
Thanks for all the info.

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Krishna
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5  Krishna    3 weeks ago

Toronto's most famous building, the City Hall.

That picture looks familiar . . . didn't you use it in a NT Quiz you did with a series  of pictures of different places and we had to guess the City or country?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.1  author  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @5    3 weeks ago

Yes, you are correct.

 
 

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