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Why are there still 'Palestinian refugees'?

  

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Via:  krishna  •  8 years ago  •  23 comments

Why are there still 'Palestinian refugees'?

It's been seven decades since the 1948 Arab-Israeli, and yet there are still an estimated 4 million Palestinian refugees...and zero Jewish refugees.

With so many nearby Arab allies of the Palestinians, how did this happen? What does it say about Israel? What does it say about its Arab neighbors? 


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Krishna
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link   seeder  Krishna    8 years ago

It's been seven decades since the 1948 Arab-Israeli, and yet there are still an estimated 4 million Palestinian refugees...and zero Jewish refugees. With so many nearby Arab allies of the Palestinians, how did this happen?

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
link   seeder  Krishna    8 years ago

With so many nearby Arab allies of the Palestinians, how did this happen? What does it say about Israel? What does it say about its Arab neighbors? 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
link   Kavika     8 years ago

Because they do not want to have a homeland, they seem to want a continuing war.

Ask Lebanon about taking in the Palestinians.

 
 
 
Jonathan P
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link   Jonathan P  replied to  Kavika   8 years ago

Lebanon has Palestinians. They're in "refugee camps". They are prohibited from assimilating into the general population. They are not entitled to the educational system for their children. They are not permitted to hold professional designations.

That's Arab brotherly love for ya.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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link   Larry Hampton    8 years ago

The self-inflicted torment of the Palestinians is getting old. perhaps they should consider moving past playing the eternal victim, as even their Arab "brothers" obviously don't give a flyin' fig.

 
 
 
Petey Coober
Freshman Silent
link   Petey Coober    8 years ago

Comparing Arab refugees to Jewish refugees does not work well . Israel accepts quite a few Jewish refugees with full citizenship . But not even Lebanon grants Palestinian "refugees" citizenship . No one wants them . Why do you think that is the case ?

 
 
 
screminmimi
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link   screminmimi  replied to  Petey Coober   8 years ago

But not even Lebanon grants Palestinian "refugees" citizenship . No one wants them . Why do you think that is the case ?

I know that question is rhetorical.... good one

 
 
 
Jonathan P
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link   Jonathan P    8 years ago

It's part of the Arab world's plan to make permanent war with Israel. The Palestinians are pawns in their game, and have gained mightily in the propaganda war. The world has forgotten why the Palestinians are there. It now only matters that Israel has had it with them, and will deal with them harshly when they give Israel trouble.

The Palestinians in refugee camps in Syria and Lebanon obviously make for a bad argument for the Arabs, but nobody is calling them on it. If you're an Arab/Islamic country, you can treat your people like shit, and it's none of our business. If an IDF soldier shoots a kid lunging at him with a knife, it's an international incident.

 
 
 
Krishna
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link   seeder  Krishna  replied to  Jonathan P   8 years ago

After the war of 1948, there were an estimated 700,000 "Palestinian refugees".

By way of comparison, as a result of the recent civil war in Syria, there are an estimated 4 million refugees.

Yet we keep hearing about the plight of the "Palestinian refugees, large demonstrations supporting them etc-- but not many demonstrations about much larger number of Syrian refugees. 

Why?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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link   Buzz of the Orient    8 years ago

My father, at the age of 13, because he was discovered at his school to be bourgeois (his grandfather had owned a sugar refinery), escaped from revolutionary Russia by travelling by foot alone across Europe, and without a dime left in his pocket settled in Canada. Through decades of hard work and dedication, while resisting prejudices and discrimination, he eventually became a factory-owning millionaire. I am sorry, but I have NO sympathy for the so-called "Palestinian refugees" who are almost all not the original refugees but their descendants. Why would they want to even TRY to earn a decent living, to build a life for themselves, when your tax dollars through the UNRWA dole support them, and they are guaranteed a big reward from their Arab brethren by going out and killing Jews, and supported in Israeli prisons by Abbas' government if they are caught. Not only that, if they succeed in murdering Jews they are glorified - streets and schools and squares are named after them.

How much did the world even give a shit when Jews were forced out of their homes and businesses in Middle Eastern countries - over 800,000 of them were rescued by Israel that resettled them, made them Israeli citizens and helped them to become independent. Where is UNRWA's (or anybody else's) assistance for THEM?

However, to be fair, I do believe that the ORIGINAL generation of Palestinian refugees who did not leave Israel of their own accord are entitled to compensation for what they lost.

 
 
 
Krishna
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link   seeder  Krishna  replied to  Buzz of the Orient   8 years ago

However, to be fair, I do believe that the ORIGINAL generation of Palestinian refugees who did not leave Israel of their own accord are entitled to compensation for what they lost.

I agree.

Of the 700,000 who left in 1848, there are between 30,000 and 50,000 still alive. they shuld be compensatED. 

In addition, the 4 million Syrian & Iraqi refugees should be compensated as well!

 
 
 
screminmimi
Freshman Silent
link   screminmimi  replied to  Buzz of the Orient   8 years ago

Totally agree, Buzz.

The Palestinians of today are like the "refugees" that run by the hundreds so thousands from "war lords' they are afraid of. They park themselves in refugee camps run by world organizations and sit and wait for someone to take care of them, dropping babies. Some are third generation "refugees," still sitting and waiting... waiting....

pick up a gun, and axe, a spear, a damn rock for Pete's sake, and DO SOMETHING!

Most important of all, STOP HAVING BABIES EVERY NINE MONTHS!!!

 
 
 
Randy
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link   Randy    8 years ago

There will continue to be Palestinian refugees until there is the establishment of a Palestinian state.

 
 
 
screminmimi
Freshman Silent
link   screminmimi  replied to  Randy   8 years ago

Randy,

And then what? They will NEVER be satisfied until the wipe out ever Jew and raze Israel to the ground. And  if they succeeded in doing that, they would squat among the rubble, never building anything or accomplishing anything, and turn their hatred and irrational behavior toward the West.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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link   Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Randy   8 years ago

It's really getting tiresome repeating that the Palestinians had been offered 95% and 97% of their demands and in each case turned it down. There are reasons that have nothing to do with the fact that it wasn't enough. I think they would turn down 120% of what they are offered. Abbas knows that giving an inch to Israel is his death warrant, just as Arafat knew that, and hey, maybe, the UNRWA dole might stop if the Palestinian "refugees" can move into a Palestinian state. Has there EVER been a Palestinian concession towards a successful negotiation. I know Israel has given up land, has released prisoners with blood on their hands, has put a moratorium on settlement building in the HOPES that they could bring the Palestinians to the table, concessions that earned nothing but the wrath of the rest of the world.

 
 
 
screminmimi
Freshman Silent
link   screminmimi  replied to  Buzz of the Orient   8 years ago

Buzz,

Again, I totally agree.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
link   Buzz of the Orient  replied to  screminmimi   8 years ago

There are members of this site who believe that Israel should have been located elsewhere notwithstanding evidence of Jewish residency there for thousands of years, proven by archeologically discovered artifacts and architecture, and others who side with the Arabs in wishing it be located in the land of Atlantis. UNESCO will go to extremes to try to wipe Jewish history from the area - like naming the Western wall of the Temple of David with an Arabic/Muslim name.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
link   Kavika     8 years ago

With the support of the Palestinians one has to wonder why this support isn't shown for the Kurds. Their land was taken from them and they have been persecuted for centuries. Today Turkey is killing them, off. Iraq, Syria, Iran the same.

UNESCO turns a blind eye to that. Wonder why.

You might want to goggle Kurds in Israel. Quite interesting.

 
 
 
Cerenkov
Professor Silent
link   Cerenkov  replied to  Kavika   8 years ago

I think we all know why.

 
 
 
Jonathan P
Sophomore Silent
link   Jonathan P  replied to  Kavika   8 years ago

With the support of the Palestinians one has to wonder why this support isn't shown for the Kurds.

Kavika,

No one supports the Palestinians.

Get what I'm saying?

 
 
 
screminmimi
Freshman Silent
link   screminmimi  replied to  Jonathan P   8 years ago

No one supports the Palestinians

Yes they do... they support the Palestinians in their effort to eradicate Israel.

They are too cowardly to admit it out loud, so world leaders try hiding behind so-called "human rights" agendas by claiming Israel has no right to defend herself with the weapons she has. They are depending on their censure and condemnation of the way Israel defends herself against terrorism to curb Israel's defense and weaken it, thus allowing Palestinians to eventually overrun the Jewish state.

If they were to ever succeed, the world would then turn on Gaza to wipe out the "refugees" there they they actually loathe. The irrational thought process of Palestinians and their terrorist nature makes them too dangerous to turn loose on the rest of the world.

 

 
 
 
Jonathan P
Sophomore Silent
link   Jonathan P  replied to  screminmimi   8 years ago

Yes they do... they support the Palestinians in their effort to eradicate Israel.

That's not really support of the Palestinians, is it...

 

 
 
 
screminmimi
Freshman Silent
link   screminmimi  replied to  Jonathan P   8 years ago

That's not really support of the Palestinians, is it...

... second-genocide of both Jews and Palestinians. When they turn on the Palestinians they will have a good excuse... and will wash their hands of their own responsibility.

Two unwanted civilizations wiped out in one blow.

Know the best way to get rid of a fire ant bed? Find another bed and drop a shovel full of the second bed's ants into the first bed. They will go to war with each other and kill each other off.

 
 

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