An atheist and a vegan walk into a bar. I know this because they made sure everyone knew within five minutes. I also know because Ive heard that joke eleventy hundred times.
Now, we here at Louder with Crowder are tolerant of any opposing viewpoint regardless of how terrible and wrong it is. We dont have a problem with moderate atheists. Its the radical atheist fundamentalists always trying to push their not-beliefs on you. For a people who dont believe in anything, they sure are militant about it.
Cracked had a funny smackdown aboutwhy atheists are terrible (written by one of their own), but there was one part I thought particularly stood out:
Again, theres an irony in calling yourself a freethinker yet being so insecure in your beliefs that you lash out at anyone who disagrees with you. If youre so confident that youre right, why the need to shove your beliefs into the faces of people youre never going to sway?
This is where atheism most resembles modern liberalism, because that describes the way every liberal acts whenever you disagree with them about anything ever. http://www.westernjournalism.com/atheism-has-become-the-liberalism-of-religion/
Great poster! I'm going to save that one for use later! It's right on the mark! Thanks for posting it!
Again, theres an irony in calling yourself a freethinker yet being so insecure in your beliefs that you lash out at anyone who disagrees with you. If youre so confident that youre right, why the need to shove your beliefs into the faces of people youre never going to sway?
Sounds like every door to door religion salesperson I've ever known. In fact it sounds like some of your posts. And most church's. Good job on posting the description of those blindly following a fairy tale. I'll save that one for later use too! Thanks again!
I agree with you on this. Although there seems to be an assault on Christians in this country from non believers that is much more predominant with many who participate in this than there are Christians who are doing the same as a rule in my opinion. Atheism, like ISIS seems to less likely to be the target of criticism than Christianity. Christianity seems to be the main target as few seem to have a problem with the Koran in school as they do the Bible.
Even on sites like this one, articles about atheism or Islam seem to have less criticism than articles concerning Christianity as proof from the criticism or lack of in previous articles.
Face it Randy, you probably are like me. You probably haven't been in a church in the last 20 years except for a funeral or wedding.
And the dark cloud that hangs over your gravel keeps the door to door religious salesmen and sales ladies at bay. Tell me when the last door to door religious sales person has confronted you at your front door. LOL
Don't worry, only kidding. My critical thinking tells me if you stop breathing it isn't going to kill me. Of course you do know one of the things you can do to live a long life, don't you?
Keep on breathing for as long as you can.
Tell me when the last door to door religious sales person has confronted you at your front door.
Actually it's happened three times in the past year and a half since we moved into a house that is not gated or closed off in some manner. The last time was about 3 or 4 weeks ago. I just say I'm not interested and to please put me on their list of people not ever to bother again then I slam the door HARD, but it's always...and I do mean ALWAYS the Seventh Day Adventists! Every time! It's like, how many times do I have to say no to you people! I am tempted to get a sign from home depot, but they don't come in "Religious people go the fuck away" kind and it would really destroy the antique look of the front door that the original owner had custom made, covered in bronze and copper over the wood. The damn thing weighs a ton and looks like it came from the Addams Family house!
Living a long life is vastly over-rated.
I don't know and have never known a single atheist (and I know several) who has ever tried to convert a religious person over to atheism. We just don't proselytize.
Hmmm....I don't have a sidewalk, but I could post a sign like politicans (with permission)or landscapers do in the front yard by the mailbox.
Except for the incessant online mockery [by some] .
Pedophilia Has Become The Conservatization Of Religion
see how easy that was ?
It makes for a lousy media presence ...
I will try the sign, but here they always ring the doorbell..
What I want is a sign like I painted on the wooden gate to my house in Michigan. It said "No Sales. No soliciting. No religious Organizations. Nothing. If you are not a friend or were not invited, then you're not welcome."
I treasure peace, quiet and privacy. So does my wife.
No, not proselytizing. By conversion I mean why is it important whether or not another person agrees with non-belief - as in comes to the "logic side" (unless they, too, are mocking it - which some do).
I strongly disagree that qualifies as proselytizing. In no way does that constitute an attempt to preach a religion of any kind (since atheists don't have one) or to try to get someone to desert their chosen religion in any manner. By definition an atheist can not proselytize, because we have nothing to proselytize.
We have no set of beliefs, no creeds or programs or gatherings or even an agreement on what an atheist is between ourselves sometimes. We can't proselytize because we have nothing to preach. The idea that atheist can proselytize springs from the false idea that atheism is just another version of a religion, when it is not. It is the lack of a religion. It is sort of the opposite of religion.
If you're going to quote from an article you should indicate that. The words in your last post are not yours.
Of course it is . It is a belief in an unproven concept .
Oddly enough you are being completely illogical not just about me [just to try to try to get me POd] but about atheism . Atheism is indeed a belief . The only system based on a lack of belief is agnosticism . For someone who claims that he is the only intelligent one in every conversation you are showing amazing stupidity here . Why is that ? Are you actually dim witted ?
Oddly enough you are being completely illogical not just about me [just to try to try to get me POd] but about atheism .
It is you who is being illogical by trying to insist that atheism is a form of faith or religion. It is neither. It is the lack of both. I do not have faith that the god doesn't exist, because that makes no sense. How can I have faith or non-faith in something that does not exist? There is no god. Never has been. God does not exist now and never did. If that pisses you off, then that is a problem you should take up with whatever clergy of whatever faith you follow. In any case it is your problem, not mine.
Hal ,
Your explanations inevitably give the perfect understanding of dim wittedness by example . There is no need to add anything to them .
Mouse ,
Nah , that would be agnosticism . By contrast atheism takes a position , an unproven one .
Wrong. Agnosticism is when you are not really sure if there is a god or not. It's saying I don't know. Atheism is saying I know god does not exist. That's why it's not a religion because there is no faith involved at all. Atheists don't not believe in god. They have no belief at all. It is the total absence of belief. It is nothingness. I don't believe that there is no god, I know it. Agnostics are not sure.
You're right . And an atheist would tell believers they are wrong . Believers included people like Newton and Einstein so they should be assaulted with "the truth" because they are "stupid" .
To me, atheism is part of an individual'sbelief system
I am going to respectfully disagree. Atheism is not a belief, because there is nothing in existence for us not to believe in. If we are described as not believing in god, thenthat would be a based on a premise that there was a god for us not to believe in and there isn't.
I find that if I hit on the hot looking females in their group the group usually takes that as a bad omen .
Are you as confused as you sound ?
I only sound confused to those unable to grasp complex ideas and thoughts.
And yet no one else is jumping in here to explain it to the rest of us . BTW you actually are confused but don't know it ... the most dangerous kind . That leads to delusional thinking .
Me too. What a great dinner conversation that would be!
Most of the rest of them don't need it explained to them. They already understand it.
But you do [need it] . I would step up & take on the task if you weren't so proud of your delusions .
Let me take another shot to see if Petey understands this.
In order for atheism to be a belief system that doesn't believe in god, there would have to be god that exists for us NOT to believe in. Since atheists know there is no god, we can not NOT believe in a god that doesn't exist. That is illogical. Therefore atheism can not, by definition, be a belief system. Because you can not, not believe in something that does not exist.
You believe there is no god, for discussion purposes.
No. I know there is no god for me not to believe in. It is not a negative belief, because the object that would need to be believe in does not exist. Therefore it is not a belief system of any kind. Fun huh!
LOL. Yes I do, but this one does not equal a divine being.
There is no god. I know it. And I don't have to prove a negative. I say that a particular thing, for which there is no evidence of it existing, does not exist, in this case god. You say this thing does exist. Therefore the burden is on you to PROVE to me that it does. Your are the one making the claim that a particular creature so I have no burden of proof at all. Such proof does not exist. There is no god, but if you want to spend your life believing there is one, knock yourself out.
No, what I am suggesting is that it requires as much faith and belief to deny God exists as it does to believe in Him.
I find it no effort at all
You use as your evidence words from a book that was written by the very people who say a god exists. That is like trying to prove the three bears exist by quoting from a book of fairy tales.
Actually that is an assumption , not a certainty . I know you are arrogant but not comprehending your own positions is inexcusable .
I don't need any evidence or proof. You are claiming that there is an invisible being that controls mankind, but which there is not a shred of evidence it's really there, I can't prove a nothing there, but I am saying that when it comes to a god, there is nothing there. I don't have to prove a god doesn't exist, because no one can prove a nothing is there. Yet you claim there is something there. No there is not. There is nothing there. You have to prove it to me and others that the nothing is really contains a something. That there is something in the nothing. That a god really exists. There is zero evidence of there being one, so there isn't. The is nothing there, so there is no god. It you think different. Prove it.
Perfect answer XX. A belief in God requires faith. Some have it, others don't. I've said it here many times in the past, I don't have to prove there is a God, because I don't care if you don't believe.
And I am entitled to think of you Comment removed for CoC violation [ph]man that still believes in Santa Claus.
Wow. You just love to skirt the CoC with these personal attacks don't you Hal?
I don't need to prove a thing.
The difference between you and me is that I know there is no god.